What GTA 6 Can Learn From Red Dead Redemption 2 and GTA Online | GTFM

Grand Theft Auto 5 and Red Dead Redemption 2 are very similar in how visually stunning each look, with narrative structures that are able to rival most films seen in theaters. GTA 6 has a lot to live up to, and while the last trailer we saw on the surface visually surpasses its #RockstarGames predecessors, there are a few things that the devs might wanna take into consideration throughout the development process of #GTA6. We’re joined by ex-Rockstar Games employee Mike York. Mike lended his animation skills to both GTA 5 and Red Dead Redemption 2. You might’ve even seen his reaction video to the first GTA 6 trailer on his KZbin channel, @YorkReacts. We’ll be discussing what we hope to see in Grand Theft Auto 6, and what features we hope to see in Rockstars’ latest iteration of the franchise. To note, this is all speculation: Nothing we say here is official confirmation - we’re merely doing a deep dive and having Mike weigh in given his expertise.
Check out Mike York’s channel: / @yorkreacts
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[@zuher3180]

Rdr2 is the greatest game ever made and i’m very confident that gta6 is going to be a huge masterpiece. We must survive for 2025 people.

[@eSKAone-]

Probably 2026

[@Rocka7038]

Red dead redemption 2 is the best game ever made according to who?

[@DanielGonzalez-xu1hi]

@@Rocka7038thousands of people and reviews lol cry about it💀😂

[@JK_of_Today]

If only the gameplay wasn’t terrible.

[@NocturnalAnimal14]

@@Rocka7038​​⁠bro probably only watches the game awards 💀

[@TheCruserBoy]

A thing rdr2 really nailed was making the open world feel dangerous. In gta 5 you can walk around anywhere at night and not feel threatened. Going out in a city at night can be dangerous some times, it would be cool for them to up the threat a bit when in the open world.

[@tacho8313]

True that would be mad

[@maxpayne69.]

Yea, the swamps were quite dangerous at night. The murfree brood near the north east deadly too. They even dig holes/traps for you to fall in & that was quite unexpected 😮😅

[@UltimateSpiderMan]

Gta 5's lack of gang life is a big cause for that.

[@Wizardnil]

definitely

[@BennyTherat]

​@@maxpayne69.Night folk

[@trikicks]

If GTA 6 can learn one thing from RDR2 is more variation in activity. RDR2 had so much going on around you all the time, whether it was wildlife, random events with NPCs, or getting mugged by gangs.. It just felt so alive. You cannot travel in that game for more than a few minutes without seeing some kind of activity you can partake in or something interesting you can explore. That’s what GTA 5 was missing. And GTA 6 has all the capacity and potential to build upon the foundation RDR2 laid out. If they follow in the spirit of that game, GTA 6 will have one of the greatest story modes of all time

[@nak3dxsnake]

They really had some bad online dlc. That mode was ripe to expand and instead it was a slow trickle of stuff that wasn't that fun.

[@azizalduwaisan6577]

100%. Every open world I’ve played after rdr2 felt dead or lackluster. Also the side missions in rdr2 is what makes it to me. No fetch side quest, no tailing or clear enemies.

[@anthonysolis4163]

Assassin's Creed Mirage and Spiderman 2 have huge amazing looking worlds but once the storys over, there's almost nothing left to do

[@trikicks]

@@anthonysolis4163 Exaclty. Story mode game’s stay alive by having things going on outside of the story

[@ramounwoods]

This is facts and what added more to the effect was how organically everything flowed.. it didn’t feel like the world was a theme park with traps and animations triggered by your presence.

[@ghostxplatinum]

If there's anything Rockstar excels in their games, it's nailing open world design.

[@devinwalters8769]

definitely.

[@iraford5788]

Objective fact.

[@eddiegitau1107]

Depends. Have you seen No Man's Sky by Hello Games ? Open Galaxy

[@IIOctaneII]

@@eddiegitau1107 stop

[@eddiegitau1107]

@@IIOctaneII check it out bro

[@dccaleb5529]

Much like the jump from RDR1 to RDR2, I’m praying GTA6 slows GTA5’s gameplay down a bit and replaces the arcade-ish mechanics with more immersive ones.

[@theaces3697]

it should do, its using RDR2 as more of a foundation from the leaked gameplay we saw the movement was slower and looked like it was almost lifted from RDR2, it had the two weapon system like RDR2 had

[@connorf1408]

agree gta 5 was very arcadey, if they improved and bring a whole new weapons combat mechanic system that would be great

[@toniman11]

Agreed! Why haven’t I seen a comment mentioning how arcadey gta 5 is until now. Gta 5 was definitely not immersive for me.

[@eddiegitau1107]

​@@toniman11 immersion comes from playing it in first person, without the HUD

[@smellojello8214]

Me too

[@GTAV4LYFE]

A few years back rockstar created some new patents for ai and pedestrians, environments and how they can populate more things on screen at one time. You should do a deep dive on those patents. That should give you a huge insight on what gta6 will be able to do!

[@glakennnn4378]

Great info man🙌

[@TaIIer]

If we thought RDR2 was crazy imagine how insane GTA 6 probably is

[@gurpinderwarar4625]

​@@TaIIerRDR2 is the reason I'm excited for GTA 6

[@MGsubbie]

Not necessarily though, video game companies file patents they never end up using all the time.

[@TaIIer]

@@gurpinderwarar4625 same

[@mutatednut]

Nah let’s be real we don’t want to carry over GTA 5 online stuff into GTA 6

[@l.a.wrecords6537]

Its refreshing to see a former employee talk about their former employer with such praise and reverence

[@samlasley798]

The most impressive thing about RDR2 to me was how alive the world felt. You felt like just another man in a moving, changing environment. Makes so many other games look mid by comparison

[@dingleberryjim4456]

Rockstar could elaborate more on the camp system from rdr2 online in gta 6. A more lively base/home would be a start!

[@sean7332]

Being forced to slow walk in a camp? No thanks

[@raven99999]

​@@sean7332lively safehouse is amazing, but def not the forced slow walk "feature" for sure

[@RAMIR3Z0]

That slow walk was awful

[@TaIIer]

@@sean7332If you think they would force you to slow walk in a house then you might be on the spectrum.

[@eternalterrors6824]

slow walk makes it more easier for console players because especially in a house, it's really easy to just jump and run into objects and walls. But if it's an outdoor camp then we dont need it@@raven99999

[@finesseb305]

ayo arthur going crazy on lucia in that thumbnail

[@lilcfromklz]

Was looking for this comment 🤣

[@gautamnegi9675]

RDR2 is the best game ever made, Gta 6 can learn everything and then more from it.

[@filippranjkovic1524]

No it is not m

[@zuher3180]

Facts

[@Cheezer3089]

Stick to mobile games ​@@filippranjkovic1524

[@sean7332]

Far from the best game ever made, the tedious gameplay and slog of traversal, clunky controls and pacing bring it down

[@tdwendangered7384]

It's definitely is, but it needs a PS5/Series X Upgrade immediately.

[@Ronuk1996]

Learn from RDR2 with exploration and living breathing world with great NPC interaction. Learn from maxpayne 3 gunplay and the warriers Hand to hand combat Learn from Stealth in Manhunt and let us use distractions to lure enemies and envirmental take downs like Manhunt 2. Also build some features from San andreas.

[@itsdeonlol]

Red Dead 2 is gonna be hard to beat.

[@giftmatsane8810]

The story part is going to be hard to beat.

[@candles6103]

Nah

[@cr_unchy]

story-wise, yes, graphically and gameplay-wise, definitely not.

[@gun4funofficial937]

We underestimate Rockstar every time. You are correct, RDR2 is hard to beat by ANYONES standards. Rockstar always outdoes themselves. When GTA VI comes out, all other companies will lose many investors because other games simply can’t keep up. Rockstar lost 4% investors just hearing rumors of delay (proven not true). Their aim is Q1 2025 but it likely got pushed back to Q3 instead

[@MarkPiccolo]

Loads and loads of fun random encounters like red dead 2 had would be perfect for gta 6 saving people and bounty hunting as well

[@newrockerofficial294]

Bounty hunting would be sick, imagine hunting down a Crim in the Everglades with Aligators around in the night time.

[@Skateandcreate9]

Arthur dang near mounting Lucia in the thumbnail

[@imakeshoes1]

I’d love it if you had all of the NPC interaction choices like in RDR2. The compliment, diss, and rob options were great for allowing you to play how you want

[@arielshaffiq7944]

GTA 6 should have NPC like RDR2. Feel alive.

[@stevenplayzzz172]

But more

[@ISAFMobius18]

The thing is, no matter what we wish or speculate on, everything in GTA 6 has probably already been finished and they're spending this final year polishing and adding minor details. Unless they have a plan post-launch with extra DLC, their main game and story has already been set. Since this thing has been in development for the past decade

[@Watermelon_Man]

What does that even mean? It’s not like we’re asking them to put it in the game. We’re predicting what we think is gonna make it.

[@d33zknots88]

Michael: What took you so long? Trevor: wHaT ToOk YoU sO lOnG...😂 (never gets old)

[@samzony]

You did our Lucia and Arthur dirty 😂😂 Arthur is a sober man we can't imagine him like this with other man's partner. We don't know much about Lucia yet but she will also have some unique characteristics that we will fall in love with her too.

[@Barnaby_bo]

When gta6 is released it will smash all records. That's all YOU need to know.

[@coreycasciano3255]

The amount of money Rockstar gonna make is astronomical 🤣

[@bradleydavidson4948]

Thumbnail looks like Jason walked in on Arthur and Lucia having a private moment

[@Boss_Fight_Wiki_muki_twitch]

Hopefully GTA6 will be relatively bug free bc they're concentrating efforts on the PS5/XsX variants 1st, then focusing on the PC version.

[@121Greenthumb]

uhm... yeah.... like rockstar does for all their games.

[@carbodude5414]

Hopefully, the missions in GTA 6 aren't overly strict with the way players can complete them as it was in RDR2 or feature an unkillable-til-the-very-end twist villain like Micah

[@Paradyze9800]

Mission design is the only thing stale from rockstar but because of the immersion of the gameplay/story it gives it a pass

[@devinwalters8769]

Well, he's an important character to the story, it makes sense that you couldn't kill him at any time. That's how games work. Wouldn't want to anyways, not until the final showdown.

[@Jeromebeckam]

why would you be able to kill him before the end that doesnt make sense

[@no1hereisahuman]

Killing the main villian before the story is over would just mean that the story ends when hes dead. If there is no antagonist the protagonist doesnt have a plight...Tell me you dont understand story structure without telling me you dont understand story structure

[@johngurwitz5203]

@@no1hereisahumannah the story would continue with all of us doing your Mom

[@nangoloaupindi8688]

Yea and bring back gyms and more property to buy offline and more buildings to enter

[@sincityquinn]

Wait hold on. What’s going on in the thumbnail? 😂😂😂

[@danielm4874]

The thumbnail look like Arthur is giving Lucia a backshot

[@earthlyvibes23]

16:07 noooooo, gta 5 should not mersh the two. Let GTA 6 be GTA 6. We need to start from Square one. Don't blend it.

[@morganmend]

Why nobody talking bout that thumbnail tho. That just look wrong 😂

[@Cbart23]

You’re alright gurrl.

[@morganmend]

@@Cbart23 😂

[@manojgowda9370]

GTA 6 is a modern mod of RDR 2 no cap.

[@themeeks-verse754]

If so I’m still all here for it 🙏

[@Ricky-tr2hd]

RDR2 on my Xbox one x looks better than most my PS5 stuff.

[@Breeezy888]

Letting people transfer progress from gta online would be the worst idea ever wtf

[@coreycasciano3255]

Agreed

[@holden7688]

RDR2 was the testing ground for a lot of GTA 6 features and worldbuilding

[@glosaiyan9109]

Rdr2 gives me so much hope for gta6 it’s actually gonna be insane

[@christopherross8976]

Would love to have organic side missions like RDR 2 where you have a natural encounter with an NPC instead of just going to a quest marker on the map

[@changito4625]

There are those missions since GTA IV, V and RDR 1 and 2

[@leitto-corleone]

that random encounters already exist since GTA IV, it just RDR2 increase those encounters in numbers and variation

[@HateTheHumanRace]

Huh? Thats been a thing

[@Jeromebeckam]

didnt read the comment@@HateTheHumanRace

[@Jeromebeckam]

you definitely didnt read the comment@@changito4625

[@philipajfry]

One CRAZY thing me and my pal speculated: GTA 6 will have its own social media platform. A fake twitter or tik tok. But real people can populate the service with content via shared connectivity. So you can record videos on your in-game phone, upload them to in-game tik tok/youtube and go real life viral on an in-game platform. Imagine all the content creation in-game? They could take all that youtube revenue away from google.

[@Sf84006]

RDR2 which was released at 2018 has more details comparing to the games recently released. Think of 2025 with gta 6!

[@salplay007]

RDR2 is the best game ive played, GTA VI need to learn from that. RDR2 was robbed in 2018 Game Award btw

[@UltimateCarDrawer567]

Cope and seethe 😂

[@LennyDykstra1]

The developer nailed it when it came to player movement in Grandtheft auto. Player movement has always felt clunky and clumsy.

[@TheRedDeadRedemption2Show]

We noticed that in the trailer they use a longer zoom lense which helps make the world feel much bigger. Kinda like how we use the camera in red dead 2

[@madoxjalowiec5148]

Would be cool to have joint side missions where both Jason and Lucia can participate in one single side mission at the same time

[@frostgamez9368]

What we need in gta 6 is dlc not online

[@dudemp4]

even the gta 4 dlcs did not sell that well so its just not gonna happen

[@TheChristian50]

@@dudemp4different times. It will now cuz demand for it

[@WORKSbaby]

Nah u tripping we need online

[@Stepin2]

dlc in my opinion will only slow down future games development

[@Gabe791]

We’re most definitely going to need the online to be able to make our own characters and play with other people.

[@ezzy9886]

Gta5 online was rough the first couple days. And we got it 2 weeks after release. Aint no way rockstar gonna wait 6 months to a year to release online thats there bread and butter

[@Matterz25]

2 weeks? Also rdr2 online was delayed

[@ezzy9886]

@@Matterz25 yes gta5 release September 17, 2013 and online was released October 1, 2013

[@JagdeepSingh-pe8gq]

My only curiosity is will GTA 6 will lean on satire and fun part more like previous games or real and gritty like RDR 2. A rdr type GTA 6 will be fresh and new experience

[@coreycasciano3255]

Id prefer gritty like Gta 4, but 4 was a perfect balance of both

[@eternalterrors6824]

it could be like rdr2 where the story is real but the sidemissions are funny

[@trinibaduk9012]

Every gta is satire

[@whenyounutinhermouthandshe]

​@@trinibaduk90124 wasn't just satire.

[@meghanathganta8185]

Love this guy’s anchoring, he should do more IGN reviews

[@EdwardKenway-lr5tl]

Okay but but that thumbnail pic of Arthur and Lucia goes hard

[@scottiepimpin6960]

That thumbnail is crazy🤣🤣

[@PigeonGoGaming]

You guys did that thumbnail dirty 😂

[@shiddyboyjay1830]

Need real bullet wounds and effects like red dead, basically a upgraded gore feature

[@DngnRdr]

I'm hoping GTA6 learns from GTA IV and don't forget their SP/Campaign players like they did with GTAV.

[@POTENTDOMAIN]

This was great content guys a lot of useful information presentation was fantastic

[@ToyCopperS]

Rockstar, Naughty Dog, Suckerpunch and insomniac are the 4 juggernauts when it comes to pushing graphics on consoles

[@akashambrose]

Don't think about the other three but Rockstar sure is a juggernaut.

[@iraford5788]

​@@akashambrosedefinitely naughty dog and suckerpunch.

[@tjz3158]

Just let me work out and gain weight and muscles like in San Andreas with unique dialogue and I’ll be satisfied

[@MikeyGonzo]

GTA 6 is going to prominently surpass all launch day sale records, mark my words.

[@thejimd]

That thumbnail is something else

[@RuthlessMetalYT]

They should learn that updating a game is what keeps it alive. They can't ever handle a game as bad as RDR2 ever again.

[@DeadlyBeast205]

Red Dead 2 was bad to you?? Wow

[@antoinesry7906]

⁠@@DeadlyBeast205no he said that they should keep some updates for the game and that they must not handle GTA 6 like they did for RDR 2 in terms of DLC etc... and this is true, releasing Undead Nightmare on RDR2 could have been a masterpiece

[@DeadlyBeast205]

@@antoinesry7906 oh ok

[@RuthlessMetalYT]

Some parts of RDR2 was excellent, like the story mode or the graphics and how wellmade the world was but it was a rather boring game, not much action and absolutely no updates that kept the game interesting for online players.@@DeadlyBeast205

[@multiplefutures8206]

Pro tip: Akeem's Coffee mug costs $325 used $600 new on ebay right now

[@Cbart23]

Prob cost $6.00 to make.

[@hatserl]

4:28 Bro chose violence 💀

[@prauwnsauce]

I’m hoping for more realism in this one. I’m talking fuel in cars, cores like in rdr2 for stamina and health, manual transmission vehicles and a city that feels like you can go anywhere and do anything, from robberies to car meets/races.

[@trinibaduk9012]

Your talking it too far, no one wants manual transmissions 🤣

[@ahokay3776]

Please no fuel, imagine you have to escape the police after a robbery and you have to stop to refill your car, it will going to annoy people to hell.

[@prauwnsauce]

@@ahokay3776 just steal a new car you dense bastard

[@TELNATION]

You're forgetting this is gta game not a real life sim game

[@prauwnsauce]

@@TELNATION oh how quick one forgets of the weight and strength mechanics from San Andreas

[@NocturnalAnimal14]

To not abandon online, while at the same time making single player DLCS

[@lowbudgetmovies94]

Ayooo what is that thumbnail 💀💀💀

[@EL1TEHD1]

That thumbnail is crazy

[@jattdachannel6652]

nah man gta 6 online should be a reset

[@moneyshot6]

Thank you IGN for making this video. I’m sure rockstar is clueless on how to make a great game. You just saved the company!!

[@torywilliams5345]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@gallardosbull]

Mike York lives and breathes this life! So cool to see him dive deep in these intricate insights!

[@Cbart23]

Ermagerrddd

[@HarryTestakuls]

Its not always about the console, its about the engine of the game. This new rage engine seems to produce insane quality. As for framerate, thats something that is a 50/50 for gta. It doesnt entirely matter but having 60 fps is just really needed nowadays for gaming.

[@lincolnpreuit6993]

30 fps if it’s locked is not that bad because you just become blind to it but that’s not to say that 60 isn’t ideal. Gta 6 will not be at 60 on release but I’m down for them to surprise me

[@ejmakibelo3224]

30fps is fine imo

[@luigibora369]

GTA V on PS4 was not even steady 30FPS, we should atleast aspect steady 30FPS for GTA 6.

[@newrockerofficial294]

​@luigibora369 you are thinking of GTA Online, it was steady in Story mode.

[@JaronTorrontayeJones]

30fps is fine if the title has consistent frame pacing. RDR2 was 30fps.

[@Anthony-dj4nd]

GTA 6 AI NPC's😮❤

[@97CAB564]

Hopefully the animal system is as in depth as it is in Red Dead 2, perhaps with an extra focus on fishing considering the aquatic elements that are featured to prominently.

[@shinobimsh5687]

18:54 seems like marcus is blacking out those buildings lol

[@MendoAssasire]

own satellite for gta 6 💀

[@SonGokuuuuuuu]

Lucia giving Arthur some cake in the thumbnail 😭

[@JonnyLowe90]

So what rockstar can learn from rockstar?

[@user-wf9vv8xn5e]

Rockstar can learn that just because a game doesn't sell as well as they planned is no reason to hate it and pretend it doesn't exist

[@iliagagin]

Why would they decide to make less profit? Their goal is to earn money.

[@aafx3083]

lmao arthur hitting it from the back on lucia

[@mebansutnga2566]

The thumbnail lol

[@slimshady9722]

What IGN can learn from other Reviewers

[@Md6rx]

its time to get a series x GTA 6 will be a masterpiece

[@BasedSakurai2024]

That's a funny way to spell PS5

[@druidfluid8964]

It's really hard to imagine Rockstar topping RDR2, especially in terms of story, detail, and immersion.

[@ShoobSenpai]

Weather definitely considering the game is taking place in Vice City “Miami, Florida”. Some of the most bipolar weather I’ve seen in my entire life right there.

[@viorelnst]

My wishlist for gta : gta v and gta iV middle ground physics, and all the activities and side things from all gta's ever

[@pranitdandavate8394]

My expectations are sky rocketed for gta 6 after playing rdr 2......Rockstar have already crossed limits in gaming industry with gta 5 and then with rdr 2....I can't imagine what they are going to do with gta 6....

[@_darkjs]

Lets goo, York reacts!

[@x-line9662]

Im hoping in the GTA online you could create like a full creation of the character like from body shape muscles scars and all that 💯💯 or you could go to gym workout have different fight styles

[@MrLashai93]

this guy is winning. great to see!

[@mattc9550]

that gta mug is so cold

[@oinkooink]

Ease up on the RDR2 overly complicated button clicking, holding, menu scrolling, endless selecting, pausing the whole game to take out a revolver, multi multi multi health status, status, status, A health, B health, C health, menus, menus, menus, selecting, pausing the game to do anything, positioning the character just so to carry out the simplest of tasks, forced to watch animation processes, every time, every time...

[@itachilimbu3752]

AYEEEE STOP THAT!!!!! WHAT IS THUMBNAIL 💀

[@Onyyyxx]

RDR2 is the GOAT

[@AstralWorks_unspoken411]

Also horizon with its weather effects and GOS and the Witcher, not many games nail weather effects which is a shame

[@eSKAone-]

In Avatar you can even fly above a storm 💟🌌☮️

[@shinobimsh5687]

Botw did

[@mariothingy]

Make the beanie dude the main host! Dude's got charisma

[@exus2sky]

Bro doing a great job

[@oneuglyninja777]

Yoooo that thumbnail is low key NSFW

[@Acid195]

if all your progress is able to be ported, they should make a really big heist that you can get all your stuff back, like robbing someone that's meant to be you or something

[@TheLawVGHS]

No, total reset on GTA 6 online, I’m not hopping on to get manhandled by a group of oppressor mk2’s

[@brutifullroast2548]

Comparing gta6 with rdr2 is like comparing rdr2 with gta5. People forget gta5 is a ps3/360 game and will be 11yrs old while rdr2 will be 6 yrs old. We can't imagine what gta6 will be like

[@Killadelphia-MMG]

I’ve never truly been more hype for ANY game then gta6!

[@Der_Gewagte]

What we need in GTA6: -Buying Phones -Grapplinghook -Hurricane -Gang territoires -Buying cheaper stuffs from other Online Players (Cars, Clubs, Yacht etc..) -E-scooter and skateboard and Surfing -a mission going to space (because Florida = NASA) -Honor System like RDR

[@AidenEsquivel-hz6zz]

Terrible idea

[@shuvabarua9896]

RDR2 is and will be the greatest game ever made. Everything about it is perfect.

[@I_Gotta_Dig_Bick]

it's not completely perfect

[@gun4funofficial937]

Man… so much, and what’s more wild, most GTA players don’t know what RDR2 is like.