What happened here...? The Lore of BAYONETTA 3! (pt. 2)

[@ruinparadox4812]

I love how Tip actually pointed out the inconsistency of Jeanne not being suspicious of Dr. Sigurd. I mean, it's not like she was so suspicious of Viola that she straight up opened fire on her in Rodin's bar and immediately began questioning her on her abilities. Oh, but this random scientist that just so happens to know about the Alphaverse and has the same color pallette as the enemies they've been fighting? Nah, he's totally not an imposter or anything.

[@lolbots686]

I mean if there's lore fixing jeanne probably had suspicions but didnt voice them yet

[@ruinparadox4812]

@@lolbots686 Even so, there is no way that Jeanne of all people, who is consistently described by Kamiya himself to be on par with, if not greater in power to Bayonetta, would ever be offed by something as stupid as the most generic twig of a lazer blade in the entirety of science fiction. I was waiting for Jeanne to give the guy a whole beat down during that scene, (with Singularity somehow escaping because plot), and yet he just backstabs her and that's it. Like really? So either Kamiya just really hates Jeanne for whatever reason, or he really is just that bad at writing a story.

[@derrickdaniels3955]

@@ruinparadox4812 His story writing isn't bad, Bayos 1 and 2 and Okami had great story. The problem here is that powers and characters are nerfed to give the impression that we are dealing with a much greater threat and the stakes are higher.

[@lolbots686]

@@ruinparadox4812 tbh i think some of the bigger leading devs with a influence on the game plot probably fucked with it or something like that

[@bluenuttefly8813]

@@derrickdaniels3955 Yeah, the Deadly Sin power literally reads as a plot crutch to me

[@chezcak486]

I'm thankful that you acknowledged the absolute absurdity of this story's ending bc like, why did they do that?

[@WannabeWryter]

In all fairness, bayonetta games have never had the best plots they'd make a lot of cliche writing this Mistakes, but you know this one takes the cake

[@redbirdtribe]

​@@WannabeWryteryeah but at least they had badass moments but in this one I felt like I was just watching Bayonetta get her shit kicked in over and over again

[@uli11]

I mean... isnt it obvious? Fan service and rule of cool are the driving truths of the bayo games... and it seemed like they tripled down.

[@starstudios2959]

I played through Bayonetta Origins and things got explained when I did

[@scary5455]

@@uli11 fan service?

[@pallete9988]

What I personally find hilarious is the timestamp names where she progressively gets more confused as to wtf is going on in this story

[@5slistenup.a10isspeaking2]

We just gonna ignore the fact that viola gets stabbed through the chest with 1 of striders claws and doesn’t die, bayonetta gets stabbed through the chest with 3 of striders claws and doesn’t die, not to mention she’s been ripping out her actual heart for the whole game, but Jeanne gets stabbed through the chest with Sigurds light saber and fucking dies😂

[@OGZelda626]

they were all caught slippin

[@danielalexispaulinh.8729]

We're talking about Singularity, the guy who killed Viola's mother with no effort in the prologue, before him having absorbed the energy of almost every Universe.

[@scary5455]

Because it's Singularity

[@cee_ves]

Love the way Jeanne is supposed to be an almost equal to bayonetta yet gets bodied at every possible moment

[@joshuasuarez7076]

When I saw French Bayonetta's Rosa I wondered why she is wearing a gold monocle, like a Lumen Sage does, as where the version we've seen previously is wearing glasses as seen with most Umbra Witches. I wonder if French Bayonetta's Baldur died instead of Rosa and she wears it to honor him.

[@scary-sounds]

He could have died to save her so their daughter had a mother to raise her.

[@sebygamingyt2621]

in chinese bayo she also wears the monocle

[@Rollster007]

@@sebygamingyt2621 It;s more of an eyepatch

[@DavidGarcia-jc2em]

I thought it might just be a reference to Arsen Lupin the gentleman thief, since he’s also french

[@luiserodriguezserrano4287]

I loved how she gave a title to each varíant. Witch in black Rebel witch Warlord witch Princess witch Harlequin witch Witch in red Witch in blue

[@joseroa5243]

Explaining the lore of Bayonneta 3 to a lizar is the most emotional "that's me" moment ever.

[@xana3961]

I love the absolute sass had by Tip during this story's telling. It feels like bayonetta herself telling the story. Also to explain things a bit more accurately, what happened on the moon is Bayonetta used her reality warping powers to free all of the souls of the previous bayonettas from the singularity. In so doing with their souls restored, their worlds came back as the power that universe vested in the bayonetta returned. The glitching you see is each of those bayonettas temporarily crossing over into Bayonetta 3's world in the same way that the jaunne fight in egypt worked. They're not actually there in Bayonetta 3's world but they are on the moon in their own worlds, fighting singularity in the same way bayonetta 3 and egypt jaunne fought. Once all hit, the singularity banishes himself from those worlds to solely focus on this bayonetta. Jaunne comes back as well, though I'm more inclined to believe that she did die afterwords as she exploded into blue light. Bayonetta 1 and 2 do show up... because they are also from completely different worlds. Bayonetta 2 experienced the same history bayonetta 1 did and bayonetta 3 is the cereza from bayonetta 1. Bayonetta 3 did not falter during the witch hunts and, 500 years in her future, found her father who she defeated though not in the same way bayonetta 1 did. Jubeleaus as well. She also defeated Loptr at the top of mt Fimblebenter, just not in the same way 2 did. 2 also defeated balder from 1, just not in the same way 1 *or* 3 did. They're back because their souls were also trapped in the singularity fight on the moon, they just didn't join up until later when the bayonettas returned to manhattan. Why? No fucking clue. But thats how they're here. They may have gone to their own island of Thuule to use the portals there to travel to Bayonetta 3's world for a more... permanent fight against the singularity after he banished himself from the moon. Is that all confusing and convoluted? YES. YES IT FUCKING IS.

[@Liangzhuotang]

And yet pretty coherent. Thanks!

[@laundrewashington3734]

Convoluted and confusing yes, but somehow digestible and logical enough to make sense like a paradox of some kind. (At least with how you just add on to the explanation, so thank you lol)

[@SomeSprites]

That's only an interpretation of what happens during that scene, so unless Kamiya himself says that those Bayonettas are actually alive again and their world is restored then there's just as much leeway for that explanation not to be true as much as there is for it to be true. Also the New York they fight in isn't the same from the Prologue, it's an alternative universe NY. **Also** also the B2 design Bayonetta could very well be the Records Of Time one from the second game, not the one we play as in it. It doesn't necessarily imply that the first 2 games are different universes. (Cause otherwise that'd be such a shit retcon that fucks up the lore of this series).

[@xana3961]

@@SomeSprites the guns of scarabogh fair and love is blue have lore descriptions that say, yes, different universes. Yes, it *is* a shit retcon. Yes it does ruin their characterization. Im not saying its a hood plot point, its just what it is.

[@scary-sounds]

@@xana3961 i saw a comment that brought up that bayo 1 might be from the bloody fate movie. I don't know if that would be better than the 2 games being different world's.

[@creambred]

You know I just realized in Bayonetta 3 when you look at the character descriptions it shows that one and two have gone through almost identical paths they have both fought Jubileus that's because their the same person so that means the reason their separate is because Bayonetta had a haircut 😭😭😭😭😭

[@TheScholar13]

This Video actually made more sense then the Wiki or game itself, great job!

[@theotherohlourdespadua1131]

I mean it's still a fresh game all things considered. It took on average a few months for the plot to get the details out and years before the full story is completed...

[@thedeepfriar745]

Like every Bayonetta game, it’s a hot mess, but fun as hell

[@FEKana]

@@thedeepfriar745 Bayonetta 2 was the easier of the 3 to understand.the fact that I never understood a single thing in 3 was more confusing then wondering how Balder's plan could have ever realistically worked out the way it did

[@FerraticaTheBard]

That is... quiet the story that someone decided was going to be the plot of this game. Will give them credit for this, though - Viola does feel like exactly the sort of kid Cereza and Luka would produce, what a beautiful little hot mess. It overall feels like a lot of very cool ideas being executed rather poorly. Kudos to Tiptoe for making these two videos as comprehensive (and comprehensible) as they are.

[@exo_eve7575]

Completely agree. feels like two games worth of story and character moments smashed into one very short game

[@Prince-uo3mi]

the Egypt chapter was the saddest and my personal fav there was so much character and it played out like a tragedy when eventually everything was destroyed

[@untoucheddiguise]

Honestly these two videos have actually made me pretty upset. This two videos together are honestly more a satisfying story telling experience than actually going through the games proper. The descriptions used make everything sound so grand a personal but when you get to the game itself it feels so much more deflated by comparison. I've been saying for a while now that what disappoints me in Bayo 3's story isn't so much what happens (I.E Bayo getting with Luka and dying as well as other things.) But how it goes about doing them. These videos show how a lot of the ideas on paper could have been fun but Platinum just dropped the ball on execution. Oh well, Fanfic Ho!

[@xana3961]

Word

[@jaguar4120]

Bayonetta 3 version she acts so different in a bad way. I don’t like the fact that Bayonetta acts dumb and isn’t smart. The whole story just doesn’t work for the Bayonetta series.

[@Fallen-Saint]

Luka with bayo made so much seance tho especially after 2

[@untoucheddiguise]

@@Fallen-Saint literally, in what alternate universe?

[@Fallen-Saint]

@@untoucheddiguise in bayo 1, 2 and 3

[@ZXaria]

Notes: Final battle wasn't Eve Origin's home world, it's shown to be an alternate verse when you first arrive there. Jeanne B3 WAS the Arch-Eve, but it moved to Bayonetta B3 after Jeanne died. Singularity has control over the 'truth', so he can just decide that the truth is he isn't hurt, which is why he keeps getting up after being beaten down.

[@drewhaynes1874]

french world rosa was also an arch eve, and b1-2 arent arch eves

[@ZXaria]

@@drewhaynes1874 Rosa Beta4 wasn't an Arch Eve, only Bayonetta Beta4 was. Bayonetta Beta1 and Beta2 absolutely were Arch Eves.

[@itsmedarneezey]

Oooh, I was trying to say away from spoilers but this video just started playing and I couldn't stop watching the narration was amazing. I can totally understand why people hate the story and ending for this, as do I. It's all other the place and some of the deaths were unneeded.

[@Viryl_TV]

Glad you enjoyed it. Apologies about the spoilers though. Hopefully KZbin isn't auto-playing right into part 2 of the videos 😅

[@LokiToxtrocity]

A lot of people hated Viola and seethed at her being Bayonetta... But I can see it, all the flaws she has make her something unique, and some like her Claustrophobia are good things that can be used for future growth, as she becomes a woman I'm sure she'll become more confident, and powerful. Her clumsiness though, that'll never go away, that there comes from Luka, and if anything that might make her more op and lucky.

[@TheGamingVillas]

The problem people have with her being "Bayonetta" is that she's different stylistically, thematically, and mechically than anything associated with the franchise. It's less like a child taking on the reins of their parents and more like switching Link from Zelda with Minecraft Steve all while getting rid of Ganon and Zelda.

[@IceQueen975]

@@TheGamingVillas Also, they made her look like a stereotypical lesbian *cough* . Fire whomever made that design choice.

[@mystery_box1172]

Here's hoping perhaps she'll be something like Nero, kinda hated at first, but eventually becomes likeable

[@LokiToxtrocity]

@@mystery_box1172 I like that she has this need to prove herself, despite being so young, and I'm pretty sure her mother and as confirmed by Rodin, her dad want her to study and maybe have a semblance of a normal life, but also for her to enjoy her youth, she kinda tries to be cool like a grown up, and it usually backfires when Luka's inherited Clumsiness puts her in her place, which I theorize will eventually become a gag that will grant her some form of good luck in the future. Or it'll be like the recurring gag in MGR where Raiden gets a close call by scraping his chin.

[@starmoral5456]

I saw on a KZbin video title that they called her "Faeonetta" and I think it has a good ring to it haha

[@Pumpkin_3890]

29:36 I don't know why, but that line (that they are the most important people to him) made me realize that since Luka now absorbed all the Lukas, he IS now Viola's real dad, from her world. But this Bayo (Brave Cereza) isn't her mom. Which begs the question, why isn't she going home to her real mom at the end of the game?

[@danielalexispaulinh.8729]

Viola got stucked in the Main Universe, Thule apparently is destroyed when the artifact was activated, and might be no Sigurd anymore to create another device like the one Connors Sigurd gave to Viola.

[@Pumpkin_3890]

@@danielalexispaulinh.8729 Ah, makes sense! ty

[@OGZelda626]

@@Pumpkin_3890 what Daniel said and I believe Viola has to sustain that world now just like how the other Bayos did with theirs....I THINK

[@Pumpkin_3890]

@@OGZelda626 I forgot about that detail. It would make sense, but also not? I just can't get over the fact that she's not from this main universe and that her real mom is probably still waiting for her 😭

[@InktheImpassive]

Though the "passing the torch" thing was handled kind of poorly. I just love how much Ex Machinas happens in the finale.

[@ViewtifulO]

I usually don't care too much about the story in the Bayonetta series, but this one was *so* badly done it brought down my enjoyment a little bit. Thanks for making as much sense outta this mess as you could, haha!

[@palamedes4740]

Love the sass and sarcastic calling out of the inconsistencies

[@HeartOfClod]

Just to be clear, you _are_ in Singularity's home turf during the last chapter, you just happen to fall in NY, the same way Wittingham Fair Bayonetta does. This is confirmed by the coordinates at the beginning of the verse when you get to NY. Same place, alternate universe.

[@davernfrazierjr3307]

Honestly I feel like with more explicit explanation the story would be better, like an endgame approach where the rules of multiverses and timelines as well as this unique enemy we face are laid out in the beginning which cuts out most of the guesswork out for the player. I feel like the biggest problem with bayo 3's story is that it feels like two different games the first feels like your facing this new unknown threat as Bayonetta while the second half is an entirely different story arc that doesn't really have any impact it's still good but that's about it tbh

[@mysteryinkii6160]

Yeah it's just lacking explanation on what's happening at certain parts and how things came to be.

[@davernfrazierjr3307]

@@mysteryinkii6160 yeah exactly

[@TheSecretSwords]

So reading the bios in game the bayos you see at 36:40 are the bayos from 1 and 2 the second game being a bayo that went through the first and second game while bayo 1 we only know as having gone through the first game in her universe. Cereza The bayo from this game is actually the child version of her from the first game thats why bayo 1 says what she does to Cereza when she shows up. The Bayo we see at the very start of the game that is viola's mom isnt Bayo 1 because in Bayo 1 she gives Cereza a red ribbon and if you pay attention Bayo 1 at 36:40 only has one ribbon while Viola's mom has 2 ribbons. Though its not confirmed i believe the Bayo that is Viola's mom is actually the Bayo from the movie since she never gives Cereza a ribbon.

[@Flareboxx]

I love your videos! Although I don't believe Sigurd was taken over by Singularity, Sigurd IS Singularity. He had a variant of himself in the Alphaverse to keep it running (this variant may have been there against his will) and the Sigurd in Viola's world was in fact good. We didn't know that this world's Sigurd was lying to the good Sigurd of Viola's world in order to accomplish his goals. Also, most of what Singularity did was undone in the end. The city's destroyed are standing again, Enzo's family is alive again, and all other Bayonettas/Jeannes who's energy was stolen to power Singularity have been returned. The only 2 who didn't return were our world's Bayonetta and Luca (who has combined with all other Lucas). It's unknown if they truly went to inferno, or if his fairy powers took them elsewhere. But for now, Viola has taken up the mantle of Bayonetta in this world because of Cereza's absence.

[@frankus321]

The variant he was using was the real sigurd of our world who was fighting against him...singularity is a sigurd that was created in a GORC facility via an "anomaly" making him a fake human but he still discover and investigate the multiverse ...he prob is also from the future

[@Flareboxx]

@@frankus321 Right! The video claims Singularity took over Sigurd similarly to how it takes over the French Bayonetta and Rosa, which isn't what happened at all.

[@Tb40556]

Singularity is the Sigurd from the alphaverse. He just switched places with the Sigurd from bayonetta’s world. So yeah, singularity didn’t take over the other Sigurd. But singularity still isn’t from bayo’s world.

[@4ncientGu150]

A lot of stuff in the ending feels like bad fanfiction. And our Bayonetta got help from all the other versions of herself, making a Bayonetta army! But our big bad was to strong and unstoppable so he got rid of them! But then Bayonetta 1 and 2 appeared! (Ignore why it wasn't just Bayonetta 2, nostalgia! And didn't you love the first game?) It seemed like the tides had turned, but Singularity was to epic and had them on the ropes again, oh no! Also, they never made it clear that thing was a AI. I thought it was Dr. Sigurd the whole time.

[@bill930505]

Just a theory: I could imagine that before Singularity could destroy the small world bridge device, they would probably absorb its functions in a nanosec before crushing it, and maybe offscreen they may have absorbed the corpse of Conor Sigurd to portray Sidmeyers Sigurd, before killing him prior to the events of Chapter 1, all in the midst of Viola time-traveling to Brave Cereza’s timeline. Another theory: While I got this from RakunX and Johto Johnny, I can agree that there was a lot of fairy magic involved. Starting with the Thule mechanization that broke down, the portal back to New York made by Luka/Lukaon (Luke-on), the passing of the witches projections, and Brave Luka and Cereza’s kiss (all variants of them fused into one respectively, except for Cereza’s remaining two), they all carry a blue essence/glow, all points head to Avalon Forest, the magical afterlife.

[@Chase-uy9lv]

Thank you for making this series. I love Bayonetta and even though its stories are a mess, it’s very enjoyable to fully grasp them and their concepts.

[@Viryl_TV]

My goodness Zilli (Tips bearded dragon) is just the most adorable little creature ever

[@vegaskullkid4503]

Great vid Tip and I am honestly kinda surprised you were able to make sense of this game’s story ‘cause I remember being pretty confused when you were streaming it. 12:06 😂, I never thought I’d hear Tip talking about fashion in such a kinda sassy way. 13:41, 😂 that’s one hard name to say. I don’t even mean that sarcastically it’s genuinely hard to say

[@smartmouthriveria]

You need a royalty check for your excellent breakdown of this story !! Thanks

[@TheCynicalGhost]

I love these games but I always appreciated your videos on them because I could never make sense of them on my own completely. Love this game too but things don't completely mesh once it's over, hopefully a followup will retroactively make it all feel like some grand plan. lol

[@uroskesic6117]

I hope bayonetta origins give s us more lore on the fearie s

[@ahmedben330]

The feeling that i get from playing this game is that the devs tried so many cool ideas for the story, but they didn't link it all satisfyingly

[@TheJmoreno126]

Great video. But I still have questions. Like…. A lot of them. Now I understand why the reception of the game was not as great as I thought it would be

[@TheSSBBfan666]

despite being a bit wonky, i quite like this story, the lil Cereza from 1 grows up to be the best hero to save the multiverse from the most powerful foe yet.

[@Bottleofwater-n5y]

A bit wonky? Just a bit?

[@TheSSBBfan666]

@@Bottleofwater-n5y i know what i said

[@mujica9747]

The way you ended this did so much justice to the legacy of this game series and did wonders in explaining how the concept of growth is power

[@Leninea]

The lore made my brain explode the lore is just absolute plot twist

[@gamervictor6761]

30:10 I think that's actually the world of Paralogue Bayonetta (The one at the very beginning) since it's called an "Alternate Verse"

[@MoonBunny789]

When the big vortex at the end appeared I was hoping they were going for a whole multiverse reset angle. Which, that particular world seemed to fix itself. But I was hoping the surprise twist would be that all the bayonetta’s were ok in their universes. Maybe they are and just this games girl can’t come back since she actually got dragged to inferno instead of being absorbed in singularity

[@MarcoPolo3]

Tiptoe thank you for making sense of this! I love how in all your videos you effortlessly put the story together in such a way and explain the over all plot. And the bit about trying to explain it do the lizard was hilarious. If I could give my thoughts on Bayonetta 3: Maybe I am hopeful but part of me thinks that this Bayonetta in 3 is Little Cereza from Bayonetta 1. Where the plots of Bayonetta 1 and 2 do happen and run in a similar fashion in terms of how we get to point A and B they are their own separate entities. Rodin is noted as being the Only Rodin throughout the multiverse, and then the weapons of Scarborough Fair and Love is Blue are quoted as "Made by Rodin for a Witch in another World." (Paraphrasing here) So adds some hope that Bayonetta or the Bayonetta we know of hasnt been destroyed by Singularity. My hope is that the worlds did get returned/restored (explains why both Bayonetta 1 and 2 come to help Bayonetta 3 out. Plus how else did New York recover so damn quick from the flood plus Enzo's family are alive so it leads me to believe that things did get restored in some type of way.) However I understand that this might not be the case and its not like Bayonetta is completely gone anyway considering how Rodin is keeping in contact with Luka, which means Bayonetta is not too far behind if that were the case. So there is a sliver of hope for Bayonetta to come back after Viola goes and does her thing. Its just sad because I dont want to let Bayonetta go in Main continuity and for Bayonetta to die...to a plot that has ppl searching for answers online because the game did such a bad job at explaining everything (If we have to find it online to figure out the complete story or go through books published or other supplemental material to spell it out for us...the story telling is not what it should be presented by the game) kinda...breaks me a little. So I have hope yet I am still in my feelings about how this especially with the drama that happened prior to release.

[@TerryB01]

Great vid tp wrap the year up on. Here's to more next year!

[@jtreview7506]

From what I’ve seen here, this feels like a game that was made so people could make compilation vids of KZbinrs reacting to certain movements, like Bayo 1&2 popping up at the end, and the rest of the game in between was purely to get to those moments

[@cellisch3753]

Do you plan on doing one for Cereza and the Lost Demon? I despised Bayonetta 3's story, and this game kind of filled the hole Bayo 3 left me with a little bit. It would be nice to see you return to Bayonetta once more with actually decent lore to cover :)

[@bubbarippin8055]

i do feel we have a good set up for the fourth game in the series which i feel will be a combination of viola and bayonetta's story the red and blue witch's universes were apparently destroyed and brought back together some how same with enzo's family so it could be deciphered that the universe viola was in reset and shes the new eve origin of that universe hence why bayonetta is gone and luka is still "active" in inferno. this could also imply the other universes that were destroyed at the hands of singularity are possibly reforming including viola's. i imagine a possible plot is viola traveling through inferno to find a way to meet her original possibly revived mother. its confirmed paradiso and inferno are linked to each universe and possibly have a Fimbulventr which acts as the entrance to inferno and paradiso meening we could also meet a lokki now for bayonettas inclusion rodin could have told her and Jeanne about viola going through inferno to find her making a split yet unison story where on one half Cereza and Jeanne while the other half viola and lokki reunite and a possible antagonist could be many of the infernal demons and possibly a fully fledged form of queen shiba, and with luka vibing in inferno hed make appearances too

[@samanthaprzybylski5526]

Not me finding these videos literally earlier today and being sad that there was only one part only to see this in my homepage- Thank you for getting me into Bayonetta

[@SpiffierShindigs]

I love your videos, but Bayonetta 3 is simply too painful of an experience to go through again.

[@thejester2802]

I don't know if it's real cannon, but in my head cannon until the end of Bayonetta 2 the eyes of the world kept chaos as one universe, but their absence allowed free will to change every event in history. Just a thought..

[@Saur]

You've got a head cannon?! Where did you get it fitted?

[@brandoncole5533]

I felt you at that Michtlantechutli part I have a stroke everytime I try to pronounce it 😭

[@enoeht]

You pronounce the name of French Bayo's demon as follows "Me - claan - teh - coot - li. You use a long soft 'A' and a long soft 'O' He's an Aztec deity, & Nahuatl is a weird language.

[@maximillius939]

Love your bayonetta videos!

[@villanjo]

Ok. This is perhaps wishful thinking but I like the interpretation that when the Arch Eves were released from singularity, it wasn’t just their spirits but actually them which means their own realities were restored as well. And they stayed long enough to help Bayo but ultimately were dragged back to their own restored realities because technically they can’t dimension hop like bayo or viola. With all realities restored, Bayo 1 and Bayo 2 are the only 2 Bayos that manage to dimension hop back into Bayo 3a reality to help her in the end before they’re also sent back to their own timelines.

[@TheAwsomeDemyx]

Zilli was just enthralled

[@Jakesterpop1]

Can you please make a lore video about Bayonetta Origins: Cereza and the Lost Demon? That game was so cute in my eyes!

[@ameggzcuaamezcua4596]

The titles of the time stamps😂😂

[@sunnydivino]

Viola during the whole game: MY NAME IS VIOLA. V-I-O-L-A, VEE-OLA. Narrator: VAYOLA. Great narration skills though. You got me all engaged throw both lore videos ❤️

[@TheGamingVillas]

This in-depth analysis really emphasizes just how horrible the narrative was and how this franchise does NOT have a promising future. How could they have possibly believed it's a good idea to have Bayonetta games WITHOUT Bayonetta and half the characters that actually made the games memorable?

[@Chase-uy9lv]

Great point. However, because this narrative is so shitty and most things are very unexplained, literally everyone (like Jeanne) might be alive and BayoLuka will have some way to escape Inferno if they want. Despite the fact that this world has very cool consequences (like Umbra witches being dragged to Inferno if they die in exchange for their demon contract), they leave easy retcons or further explanation for the future to determine whatever they want to do with these characters. They can also just continue with any other Bayo and Jeanne in another timeline like 1 or 2. This multiverse shit was so pointless though.

[@TheGamingVillas]

@Chase At this point, I am beyond caring about poor storytelling. I just don't want any future installments to be focused on Viola alone.

[@Chase-uy9lv]

@@TheGamingVillas I get why you feel that way, but I don’t think Viola deserves all the hate that she gets. She isn’t a bad concept just another poorly executed one. I think changing her design and redirecting the “twist” that she’s BayoLuka’s daughter would help. I really don’t like the overusage of purple in her design, but I think Platinum should have taken more time to develop her before giving her the family name. She has a lot of potential to be a fun side character, but she will never replace Bayonetta.

[@TheGamingVillas]

@@Chase-uy9lv You say she'll never replace Bayonetta but PlatinumGames sure implies that's the case based on the ending.

[@Chase-uy9lv]

@@TheGamingVillas I just mean she’ll never truly never replace her. She may be the Bayonetta of the current universe, but there is genuinely no direction that we can see that Platinum will take with her. We just know Bayonetta will be continued “in a new generation”. The negative reception towards the ending could still shape the way Bayonetta 4 will be produced, and I doubt Viola will be the only character of the next game. Platinum has got a lot of work to do, but I’m sure they know they can’t leave Cereza, Jeanne, and Luka out of the series. It seems like they’re just going to expand on the faeries and I’m down for that as long as we get more lore expansion of Paradiso/Lumen Sages and Inferno/Umbra Witches. They have potential to make Bayonetta 4 amazing while having Viola serve her role as the new Bayonetta while having Cereza come back one way or another. They could also bullshit Jeanne dying because even though she died and came back during the moon phase, if we interpret the glitching of the AU Bayo’s, Singularity, and Jeanne that could imply Jeanne is in another universe and even though she disappeared, we didn’t actually see her die. The way Bayo 3’s world is restored implies that all of the other world’s may be restored and maybe Viola has taken the mantle of Arch Eve just like Egyptian Jeanne was. I kinda hope they purged the multiverse but at the same time the poor storytelling fails to convey a clear image of what Bayonetta 4 will look like. Regardless of how it turns out, unless Platinum wants to purge one of its strongest IP’s, Viola will not be alone in her new role and Bayonetta 4 will (hopefully) be more thorough in executing what it’s setting up.

[@GhostManCrisis]

For being quite the cluster, that last bit was touching for this cold heart.

[@insertclevernamehere6607]

If Viola had died in Cairo this game would be so much better

[@insertclevernamehere6607]

This game is truly pathetic.

[@belleboy1711]

Madama Butterfly would throw hands at anyone who harms her bestie in Inferno

[@DrMDHyde]

Look, I’ve messed around with my fair share of multidimensional travel and time travel in various media, but this shit? This shit right here takes the fucking cake.

[@yaboigamerdouji7573]

That adorable lizard just enjoying the story time.

[@Val17282]

Nothing makes me cackle more than watching people pronounce Mictlantecutli as a mexican

[@TheSSBBfan666]

Constantine says it best

[@neil1452]

Damn. Just watched all 4 lore videos. This story is the coolest thing yet. I loved DMC and this like the exact same thing. It must have felt fucking awesome when the Witch in Blue and Red showed up

[@villanjo]

Binging these today. Loving the narration!

[@7th_hokage944]

I don’t know which video is better,great work!🔥

[@TheGamingVillas]

Narratively, this game was the weakest. They better give Bayo a more dignified story in the next game. It's like the writers are not only averse to making sense but also giving Bayo an ending that isn't full of misery.

[@riftfontain]

I know I didn't beat the game, but man, this was a sad story.

[@stevehi8677]

I love baals actual song and the hands holding glow sticks was icing on the cake 😂

[@frankscraprobot5209]

Yo can we have more bearded dragon cameos? They're fricking adorable and I love reptiles so much.

[@elipsis7651]

I feel like they didn't just jump the shark, they swan dove into its mouth

[@alricsmith6115]

Wow, that dance-off really needs Dante in it!

[@vanilla8956]

Bayonetta 4 opens with the ending of Bayo 3, and then after "let's dance baby" Enzo suddenly awakes in his bed, screaming. Bayonetta woke him up with a gunshot aimed at his wall, telling him he's late and was having some kind of bad dream.

[@DevilArcanaXV]

17:50 I think it is a dominance thing since they cast the majority of their spells through dance

[@bonezthewonderful5382]

I have a theory They saw how cool the legion fusion was and tried to force it into the bayo3

[@marcusmarrow8623]

I love your voice, it's so calming.

[@SP-ny6pk]

I think that in Egypt, Jeanne was the pillar of the world. But when princess bayonetta (lol) forged her conviction, the role was given to her. Kinda like in bayonetta 1

[@Legerdomain8]

13:29 your sarcasm, chef's kiss 🤣🤣🤣🤣💋

[@katwin8945]

Not gonna lie I was into her storytelling just like her ,, toddler"

[@EternalWarHawk]

ALL HAIL ZILLY!!!!!!!!!!! I love how she turned and started paying attention to you!

[@ItsTerrahCard]

I realized why I don’t like Viola. It’s because she’s literally just like Luka and I do not like Luka. Lol

[@Ga1an07]

I like to think the bayo 1 bayo is the one from the bloody fate movie cause it’s like a alternate version of bayo 1

[@TheMagicNimbus]

couldn’t be, there only exists 1 Jubileus, so the events of what happened in Bayonetta 1 happening anywhere else besides the main universe timeline (Bayonetta 1&2) is impossible. Bloody Fate is also regarded as not being canon to the games by Kamiya too

[@TheChronozoan]

I've never played this series and I probably never will, but i have got to say what an absolutely bonkers storyline this series has. Also her clothes are apparently also her hair??? I thought it was a leather jumpsuit but there's some bootycheeks in some of those clips.

[@randomsandwichian]

Did the widdle scaly baby understood Bayonetta? Yes it did, yes it did!

[@rakimion]

not sure how i feel about this game's ending, but i'd lie if i said i wasn't even a little bit excited by the prospect of a possible sequal game staring Viola...

[@TheMojeff]

Sick lizard. Sick video series. Sick ending.

[@saschaberger3212]

Rolling the cable around the controler breaks it inside. Just so you know

[@thesymbiotenation.4552]

This really is just Devil May Cry 5: Multivese edition

[@ThatGuyLuxinor69420]

And honestly done significantly worse, like honestly comparing the games is a little disrespectful (in terms of story)😂 but hey no hate man, it's just a game.

[@pierrelindgren5727]

Such a mess of a story. You bring cold, calculating, machine-like Order to the chaos of the multiverse.

[@rinniebinnie1035]

i haven't played bayonetta but i love it

[@daviddiaconu4130]

Listen , when it comes to Bayonetta games I expect a level of confusion and muddy storytelling cuz...lets face it , the stories are always overly convoluted as much as we like to pretend they aren't...But this game 💀💀💀 I loved this game with all my heart but if you asked me to tell you what the plot is I wouldn't be able to answer

[@arronbustos6771]

Well done, I was wondering if I was missing plot points having to cringe through playing as viola but this is what I gathered as well……

[@zacharyhawley1693]

I finished the game but waited for Tiptoe cause Bayo 3 was a clusterfk at best.

[@4ncientGu150]

I thought it was kinda cool how Egyptian Jeanne was the heroine of her world.

[@TheUmbranGirl]

Viola as a whole was a mistake! 🥲

[@bluemoon4779]

Bayo looking at Luka when he flies in like: Bruh

[@ryuumajin]

"WHAT IS THIS STORY" Yes, what is this story indeed.

[@N7niko]

Am very excite.

[@RRubicante]

watched for lore. subscribed for lizard.

[@DovonMac1]

And you said Phantasmaraneae perfectly.

[@camgeorge6222]

I think singularity only absorbed their existence now he is damage he has released all the other bayonetta and their worlds are pretty much restored.

[@pelcha09]

Just wow.... Yo...CORNO fan til death, but god... Who the hell are you? You make feelings OF FEELINGS! This is a genuine compliment. Great story telling. You and everyone behind earned a fan. +1fan ✌️