What Happened To Crusader Kings 3 ?

[@predakiller2]

In all honesty the thing i miss most about the war system, is that we only have 1 commander now, i loved it when we had to pick 3, they interacted with each other and some of the RP in multiplayer when 2 players command an army together is just amazing.

[@kabahr6517]

also it was great in mods where commanders bulid some relationship with each other and could become friends

[@IbstarYT]

Looks like latest dev diary seems to be addressing this, you can now comment/reward certain knights so while they might not be commanders they should still have more ... uniqueness across a playthrough !

[@RambleOn07]

I also miss how your levies used to be actual troops instead of just zombie hordes.

[@warthoggoulags1679]

now you have accolades (up to 5 I think) that brings strong bonuses to your armies

[@error5202]

I honestly thought the logistics of getting cm2 armies to the front, particularly in a large empire, was an interesting feature that made me think before blowing out. Getting all those guys to the front cost money and and time which actually let smaller powers punch up.

[@KushGee]

I feel like people who compare ck2 to ck3 miss out on the fact that base ck2 you couldn't even play someone who wasn't a christian. Sure after 8 years of DLCs CK2 was a more full game but ck3 came out with way more than ck2.

[@magniwalterbutnotwaltermag1479]

The biggest difference is that even the dlc for ck3 that does add in new stuff is still relatively bare to the point mods are needed to fill in more content unlike full ck2. Ck2 also had more dlc's more frequently and with more content even if they were largely just texts and images +stats. But then again ck3 does have 3d models yet they would honestly be not much of a difference as alot of the animations aee re-useable anyway evem if a new item is added. Mods make ck2 better but you can still play well compared to ck3 which lacks alot of both flavour and mechanics.

[@korgalis]

the thing is paradox is not a small company making super niche games, we expect them to match to their decade old games after 2 years not after another decade.

[@IbstarYT]

I agree ck3 launched in a way better state but my point mostly was its been almost 3 years and it hasn't really progressed much, paradox claimed this was due to lockdown + complexity of their dlcs but honestly none of the ck3 dlcs are really all that special. That said, the new one tours and tournaments looks like its the first proper expansion to base content we have gotten so I really hope they build off it and do more like it.

[@PlatonicHesaf]

@@korgalis paradox is a big company but paradox have so many games. They released victoria 3 and another dlc for it and so many dlcs for eu4 and Hoi4. The last three DLCs changed a lot of things and i believe it's not fair to say that they are moving slow.

[@deusvult6920]

​@PlatonicHesaf they are moving slow. There has only been one actual DLC so far, 2 starting today. Stop simping for corporations that put out subpar products but make millions every year

[@DontKnow-hr5my]

Something that i somehow feel like is lacking are these silly supernatural events like the Child of Destiny, the Sunset Invasion, Demonspawn (which would also play into the Sunset Invasion), the Cults :( I'd love these things to come back into Ck3

[@IbstarYT]

Yup, I read somewhere on reddit that apparently paradox said they dont want to do anything supernatural for ck3 which is a shame, thankfully the great modding community will probably step in for them

[@DontKnow-hr5my]

@@IbstarYT Really sad, they really miss out on that one i believe, i'd buy a well made pack like that very fast

[@Mann_mit_Kaffee]

Thats why I like Ck3, just gimme some nice historic setting, no fantasy please.

[@DontKnow-hr5my]

@@Mann_mit_Kaffee I mean you are not forced to play with it, as in Ck2 there was a toggle option, but do not deny it from the rest of us

[@Mann_mit_Kaffee]

@@DontKnow-hr5my thx for letting me know

[@WhiteEagleCSGO]

hey, great video man! good content combined with very enjoyable editing. Really pleasant edit to watch, i literally deadass thought you have 60k not 60 subs when i watched a video, but then realised its 60 and i dont even know why its so little, cuz you clearly deserve more. Keep up the good work pal.

[@IbstarYT]

Thank you very much for the nice comment :) I dont mind being a small channel, it gives me time to learn and improve without the pressure of a large audience ! Glad you enjoyed it though, any feedback is always welcome.

[@ricardomilos2107]

Audience just grew a little, nice video so i subbed :)

[@redaaron3697]

in my oppinion Paradox makes rly good games but the hide those games behind a big paywall of dlcs and this is why most ppl stop playing there games but these are just my thougts about it still a good vid and i hope to see your channel grow in the future

[@IbstarYT]

Agreed on dlc, but all the dlc is also what makes the game change and exciting to come back to after long periods … with ck3 there isn’t all that much different from launch tbh even with the dlc.

[@redaaron3697]

@@IbstarYT true im gona be honest i dindt bought all the ck3 dlcs but played the with the help of a friend so i cant say that much over ck but i bought nearly all dlcs in hoi and its somehow getting frustraiting to buy theese so you just have something new (i also tryed mods bought some dlcs in stellaris and vic2 plu dlcs ) and this is what is killing the game but this is just my oppinon

[@ne0nmancer]

Yep. I really want to buy Europa Universalis IV but i can't be bothered to buy a $1000 worth of DLCs or pay a monthly sub.

[@IbstarYT]

Monthly subs not actually that bad, I used it to play hoi4 and if your like me and you tend to binge a paradox game for a few days/weeks then drop it for months/years while waiting for updates it’s solid value. That said a lot of those dlc really should have been base game by now

[@yaldabraxas]

Yeah, i agree completely. I spent 2 thousands hours in CK2 and i can barely play CK3, because it's so lackluster. There's no difference between superregions, there's a constant event-spam about silly things and the balancing of some of the mechanics (inheritance, technologies, no late-game mechanics like vice-royalties). It's a drag to play CK3. Hopefully the new DLC will bring not just another bunch of events to skip through.

[@HansWurst1569]

Too bad they have nice visuals but probably lack any meaningfull gameplay elements. I 100% believe this is going to be because their new stance is not to create a strategy game but a roleplaying simulator. The deepness you're looking for will probably never ever come to ck3 in the form of DLC. I think that side will fall on what modders can do with the new stuff paradox releases so that modders can shape it into usefull stuff.

[@Ben.Pickett3]

Yeah, although I do enjoy playing it (I don't have an insane amount of hours though) I actually find it kind of stressful to play because I play multiplayer which means you can't pause for events and I am constantly bombarded with events that I have very little time to read or digest so have to just look at outcomes and decide what to do from that. Maybe I'm misremembering but I have no memory of that being a problem in ck2

[@dright928]

I played CK2 before I played CK3 because I wanted a complete experience. I knew that CK2 had received all the development it would ever get, and CK3 hadn't. Despite having difficulty initially figuring out the game, I had a blast. Tried CK3 for an hour and decided I better refund it before it was stuck on my library.

[@IbstarYT]

The new dlc looks like paradox are learning and improving ! The main concern I have is what happens next ... are we going to go back to radio silence for months on end while stellaris and the other games get what feels like weekly dev diarys. Really hoping they talk more about their future plans for the game !

[@yaldabraxas]

@@IbstarYT I wish i had your optimism. To me, travels are alright, although it's another addition to roleplayers and not the rest of the community; new factions and economy rebalance were necessary, but we'll have to see how well they will be implemented (i'd honestly prefer a more realistic system that would've get ridden from the strict categories of holdings: say, for example, Constantinople, London, Paris, Rome and many more weren't just castles, they were bustling cities with a set of villages to support them. So the ideal medieval economy would be plenty of villages that give you raw resources (like food, men, a rare coin here and there, iron, silver, gold, wool and so on - depending on a geographical location) that will be converted to weapons, armor, knights, trade, gold in cities under feudal lords, also churches as their own holdings don't make a lick of sense, especially outside of Europe), but tournaments just look like a royal court to me: you push the decision a few times after the release, you'll get to know every event and then you will never start it again anymore, unless you're in dire need of prestige.

[@justinthemotions2291]

Awesome video man! Well said. The past DLC haven't been the best, but I'm very hyped for Tours and Tournaments.

[@IbstarYT]

Thanks for watching :) I actually cant wait to see how the new dlcs features are going to be used in some overhaul mods, good time to be a ck3 fan just hope paradox dont go back into their cave for a while and ignore us

[@magmakojote1663]

@@IbstarYT well after this dlc we will get the wards and wardens dlc in the summer and later this year the persia dlc. Three dlcs in a year is a very good pacing I think

[@blobleet]

Great video! It seems youtube algo finally recommending stuff based on interest instead of just sub count or views

[@IbstarYT]

Thanks for watching :)

[@Sk0lzky]

They literally promised they'd change their insane DLC policy a few years ago, and CK3 would be the first game to receive this treatment... It seems some fans didn't get the memo. I'm not even a psycho follower or avid paradox enthusiast and i know this...

[@Mann_mit_Kaffee]

exactly. Why fans want greedy dlc hell back?

[@Ealdorman_of_Mercia]

I agree with one point. Stupid AI during battles.. They need to implement ways for players to communicate with allied AI or setting a strategy.. in CK2 you could actually do that, which I loved. That AI saved me so many times.

[@IbstarYT]

Something like war goal targets would be useful so you could direct ai armies to specific places

[@keiraaaaaaaaaaaaaa]

@@IbstarYT or even just a way to toggle “huddling” or something. One of the most annoying things thats happened to me a few times now is the allied armies just leaving to go siege the war target while leaving me to deal with the enemy forces, who ARE huddled together. They just have that tendency to walk with you the wholeeee way till you’re a step away from battle, then they disappear.

[@tabletbrothers3477]

I really like what I'm seeing from this upcoming update. There's so much in it!

[@IbstarYT]

Yup it’s looking good, excited to see how mod makers will use the systems in the future too

[@thomasvertommen9526]

It's not bizarre though; CK2 had DLC that incorporated things like the ability to raid, fleshed out paganism (twice), fleshed out the three Abrahamic religions, ... and so much more. CK3 comes with a lot of that heritage; and rightly so, how angry would we have been if it was just CK2 with updated graphics and simpler UI? So I think the real question is: what do we as players, commonly, regard as a desirable change or addition? And not just some niche group of 8% of playerbase. You need a DLC that over half of the playerbase would see as a useful addition, that a mod couldn't do better. That is where this game's challenge lies; in making the game so player and mod-friendly, Paradox have essentially made the game harder to make money off of.

[@IbstarYT]

Good points, I would say for me the biggest thing paradox could/should add is new mechancis, modders are great but there is a big limit to what new mechanics they can add ( like new tours system ) and such dlc would be something everyone would want ( modders + base game players ). Dlc like events/northmen are less interesting since modders can do similar things already

[@leonhowe1299]

Dude you covered every point so clearly, amazing video ✨️

[@IbstarYT]

Thanks for the kind words, I wasnt able to put everything I wanted into this video so im glad people still enjoyed it !

[@leonhowe1299]

@@IbstarYT dude honestly it was so solid, subscribing for more like it!

[@Al4___]

Tours and Tournaments is easily the best DLC for the game with everything they added

[@IbstarYT]

Yup can’t wait to see how the overhaul mods make use of it !

[@Colin4Prez]

Great video! The editing is solid!

[@IbstarYT]

Still learning a lot about the video making process but really glad you enjoyed it :)

[@Colin4Prez]

@@IbstarYT You'll get better with each video you make! (:

[@mafiafankyl]

Wow, you are a very underrated account. Thanks for the video!

[@IbstarYT]

Thanks :)

[@CertifiedGhoul]

Great channel. Keep going man you'll blow up soon enough.

[@IbstarYT]

Thank you :) Still learning a lot about video making/editing !

[@whynotcaptaincrunch]

I agree that most of the Royal Court DLC felt pretty insubstantial, repetitive, and pointless, but that culture update was really, really good. Tours and Tournaments is kind of a mix for me as well. The travel mechanics make all sorts of old systems more interesting, but the events get very repetitive very quickly. The regent system might be good, but I wouldn't know since I've yet to actually interact with it. I think the best change is something that might be accidental, which is that you can no longer completely avoid stress events just by clicking the hunt button as soon as your character goes above 100. The main problem with all the new content is what seems like a fundamental problem: the DLC features all have to be optional, so they have to provide bonuses to get players to interact with them. It was already too easy to become overpowered in the game on release, and now the court, artifacts, and tours give so many bonuses the game is even easier. I think it'd make sense, both from a historical and a gameplay perspective, for holding court and touring your vassals to be something you *have* to do. Hopefully they'll find ways to tie the DLC features into the core gameplay more in the future.

[@IbstarYT]

Yeah I view TaT more as a … setup dlc for future content really what I want to see is more instability / risk / threats to kingdoms. If anything their dlc so far has me more hyped for the overhauls than the base game !

[@99Bobson]

Honestly, the biggest problem is that the game is just far too easy, and I'll explain why. Do not get me wrong, CK2 could also be easy, and you could always snowball in it, but there was one thing that was always looming on the horizon, ready to screw you over, that just isn't present in CK3. What is that, you may ask? Randomness. There was a meme in the CK2 community, the "My genius heir got cancer". It was funny because it really was happening a lot. Now, mind you, it wasn't always cancer specifically, sometimes it was another disease, or the kid just got assassinated. But the point was this: "This awesome lucky chance I hit (because genetics are much harder to get than in CK3) has been wasted". In CK3, diseases are a joke, rulers with cancer can live for additional 20 years (happened to me twice), you, or your heirs almost never get assassinated, and getting gigachad kids is piss easy. It also doesn't help that you will ABSOLUTELY end up with a shit ton of gold, weather you want it or not, since buildings are also a joke, and gatekept behind traditions, which themselves are gatekept by learning, and ultimately by the in-game year, so you end up with piles of gold. And as you mentioned, Stress is a joke in CK3, especially compared to CK2. I don't think that I, in my 2k hours of playing CK3 (over 75% of those come from total conversion mods), I've ever gotten to Stress Level 3, unless I wanted to do it on purpose.

[@IbstarYT]

Very good points, I did want to mention difficulty but at the end of the day figured people might just say its nitpicking something subjective ( since there are difficulty levels + mods ). Really though once you get to kingdom stage or close enough there's not really anything risky going on, most fun campaign I had was when my empire in ireland all got smallpox and I lost a lot of useful people, once it settled I figured there might be an uprising or something now I lost so many loyal people but ... nope just business as usual.

[@ChipsGoutSmegma]

You will rarely get stress level 3 but will get bad traits from stress level 1 & 2 which can and will end up killing your character (he become alcoholic, depressed etc...)

[@99Bobson]

@@ChipsGoutSmegma The coping traits are definitely not strong enough to "kill your character". They are a nuisance. The biggest impact they have is sometimes they will reduce your stewardship, and thus your domain limit, making them a bigger nuisance. And Melancholic is not that easy to get.

[@ChipsGoutSmegma]

@@99Bobson I don't mean instant kill, but these traits are the reason why your character's health will decline and finally die

[@99Bobson]

@@ChipsGoutSmegma That is not how health works in CK3. The way health decrease works, it's just a random check every year, after the age 25 or something like that. It doesn't take into account your traits whatsoever. I know, I looked at the code when modding the "defines" file. They also offer insignificant health penalties, which are more often than not offset by the sheer ABUNDANCE of positive health modifiers, or disease resistance modifiers.

[@cuff1626]

9:52 from what i got from dev diary 120. Seems to be changing that as men at arms will now be stationed in a domian and will only get benefits from buildings in that domain. They also tweaking alot of the bulings stats

[@IbstarYT]

Yup it looks really good honestly from what I have read tours and tournaments is the dlc I have been most hyped for during all of ck3.

[@Cool_Night_King]

If paradox can make a simulator in CK3 (not necessarily as deep visually as total war) , that would elevate CK3 to a hight never seen before in strategy gaming history , think maybe representational units with 2d strips similar to Ultimate General games but in medieval times of course , I hope paradox fully develop an overhaul to battles as they are the weakest part of any paradox game , which shouldn't be the case since battles are what war is all about. Also maybe add some other features to warfare as many in the community are recommending , like supply lines , special tactics with sieges like building siege ramps , trenches , tunnels under the walls , maybe if you're intrigue is high enough you can sway a gate guard to open the gates to your troops like in the siege of Antioch in the first crusade and have it all managed by a war council similar to the royal court , but in this case it would serve an actual purpose other than showing off your artifacts and other nonesense lol. This concept is really massive and can make CK3 and other paradox games (if implemented in them) eat the market , as historical players of total war are fed up with CA bullsh*t and the shift of their games from acutal strategy and tactics to stats and visual spectical. Great video by the way mate.

[@IbstarYT]

Great points but honestly I doubt it will happen closest we’ve come is stellaris with the ship models but ai is still going to be a massive limiting factor and they are struggling as is. Battles could be more interesting as is just with more unique and interesting events tied to them like imagine an ambush or assassin event with camp sneaking events ( like shogun 2 ) in ck3 it could add so much spice to battles instead of the usual stat stick and without touching the ai But right now they are either behind or just focusing on other things to get catch up to where they should be … strangely similar to ca themselves right now with warhammer 3

[@PlatonicHesaf]

Well I'm surprised to see someone that believes struggle system and in depth role play for iberia, customizing courts, grandeur system, cultural languages and new culture rework, new cause bellies and an special expansion for north and flavor packs and event packs are called "little changes"

[@davidpan8933]

As a diehard CK2 fan who hasn't yet purchased CK3, this video is a godsend! I feel like I can't really depend on any review by IGN or meme channel, but yours is very clear, balanced, and straight to the point. Looking forward to seeing your channel grow!

[@heartsofiron4ever]

I played and still play CK2, aside from the graphics the game is amazing, with massive mechanics, and probably the deepest integration of different mechanics out of all PDX games, and I've played HOI4 (My favourite PDX game), Vicky 2 (my 3rd favourite) and EU4. I also bought CK3, but aside from the graphics, I still prefer CK2, which felt a lot more interwoven, deep and interactive, I'm still waiting for bloodlines and societies

[@IbstarYT]

Thanks for the kind words ! Honestly speaking if you haven’t played it at all it’s well worth a buy ( espc on sale ) while the replayability and variety are lacking for now there’s a solid amount of content for first few runs.

[@heartsofiron4ever]

@Piet CK3 is better at almost everything other than graphics

[@TheAlphaDingo]

still waiting on allowing us to choose any start date...

[@IbstarYT]

Guessing they are focusing on providnig as many fixed date start positions as possible for newer players before opening it all up

[@ProbablyNot18]

Nah man i can't agree. I got into ck3 maybe an year after release, never having heard or played any in this series before. I love this game. I usually build up prestige, create an appropriate culture for the region and then have fun. I don't feel like you have tried various strategies. Yea most games are samey but you make it different.

[@IbstarYT]

Fair points I have been playing a lot of paradox games for a long time so I tend to “optimise” the fun out and play more strategically which probably does make a lot of my runs samey. That said I really do think paradox should be adding more mechanics for post kingdom building, in your example once you have a culture and are king you kind of have to make your own fun instead of there being risks/systems in place to challenge you .. in other words having a kingdom and running it should be harder than building up to one no ? But right now once you get “big” it’s hard to feel like there’s anything risky anymore so fun kinda slows out for me

[@user-ql4eb5hs9b]

Damn, it's been CK3 all this time? I thought it was Sims medival 2!

[@IbstarYT]

nah bro its Sims medieval 3

[@aarezniggatron2660]

Love your video hope to see more!

[@IbstarYT]

Thanks :)

[@korgalis]

TBH i will never consider the ui of ck3 to be better, they removed lots of mapmodes and made everything take lots of space so that when the features catch up to what ck2 had it will be even more clunky and messy imo. The map looks great tho XD

[@IbstarYT]

Tradeoff in the end, newer players get scared off by many menus and UI components so having bigger and fewer things to click makes it easier for them to get in. But yh cant image what state this ui is going to be in in like 2025 .. or more like 2030 at paradoxes current dlc rate

[@Ealdorman_of_Mercia]

I like CK2 and CK3 both have different styles, each one has its strength and weaknesses.

[@Ealdorman_of_Mercia]

@@IbstarYT Good point. I bought HoI 4 and never played it for years... Because it looked so intimidatingly complex.. However after watching guides and slowly learning, now I love it.

[@IbstarYT]

One issue I have / had with HOI4 is it feels like spenting time on navy/air ( espc ) navy isnt that useful since the ai cant handle it or use it themselves at all. I would say 90% of my HOI4 time is just with the old worlds mod ( fallout one ) where air and navy are much less important.

[@Floyd033]

Best paradox game idc

[@IbstarYT]

Id prob favour setllaris or hoi4 with the dlcs/updates right now but for base game for sure ck3

[@JiPrime]

I'm still waiting for Republic DLC

[@IbstarYT]

According to the roadmap we gonna be waiting a while

[@borginburkes1819]

In CK2, no two playthroughs are ever the same. And I mean that. Your wife can get assassinated, you can become a cannibal during a famine and eat your entire family, your brother can revolt against you and put you in prison. But in ck3, no matter where you start, the same stuff happens every time. Not to mention the game is way too easy.

[@IbstarYT]

Yeah I came back recently to try out the new dlcs and it still feels like much of the same they need to add more events that actually mean something instead of these smaller ones that lead to nothing too.

[@Ealdorman_of_Mercia]

How little has changed? 1) They listen to the fans and learnt from the past: No more 1 EUR DLC adding a face, a scarf, a skin..etc (like all other paradox games, brining it to 100s pf DLCs 2) They do in depth reviews as to what would enhance CK3 then spend resources to flesh out an expansive DLC: - Struggle system, Iberia DLC (probably the best the dlc) - Norse DLC, they added a ton so we can actually feel like a norse character - A bunch of smaller dlc's/ free updates to enhance to the game (Too many to cite) - Now they are focusing on another major dlc Grand Tours and Weddings In 3 years this is NOT bad at all, it's actually good. If we compare this to other gaming companies that dont release anything for years, like Rockstar games, Witcher, Bethesda..etc

[@Dupa154]

this game has 7 DLCS, WDYM TOO MANY TO CITE, i have all ck3 dlcs and it really doesnt feel like alot, its just some events who care about that. the only good dlc is probably fate of iberia and northern lords. that 2 of out 7 "dlcs" that paradox released for ck3 since 2020. its insane

[@Beef33EE]

It took many years for ck2 to become that amazing game. CK3 is in a really early. Overall it is getting there and will take 2-3 more major DLCs for it to fairly be compared to CK2. I am really excited to play the new dlc in CK3 which I haven't had a chance to do.

[@IbstarYT]

The new dlc is really fun ! The events are a bit repetitive but mods should fix that, great base place to build on in future content and I’m excited to see how overhaul mods use it

[@AtakenSmith]

This video released in a bad time considering the game got a big patch with 1.9 and a new DLC, which both considered great by the community.

[@IbstarYT]

I mentioned that at the end

[@AtakenSmith]

@@IbstarYT Sorry about that, I have not reached the end of the video.

[@IbstarYT]

No worries thanks for watching :)

[@bencampbell104]

I started playing CK 3 recently, and I’m quite the noob, but the fact that I managed to create a massive kingdom within my first ruler’s lifetime despite not really knowing what I was doing really turned me off. I was drawn in by the depth and complexity of the game, but what’s the point when you can just ignore most of it and still become a god-emperor anyway. I see a lot of people saying the game needs to be easy to attract a wider audience, but it’s so easy that I completely lost interest. And to not even have in-game options to make things like infant mortality, age of ruler death, and death during childbirth more realistic, it seems like the devs have no interest in simulating the medieval period outside of an aesthetic choice. Really the game seems to be about breeding genetic superhumans, taking over the world, and making both of those goals as simple and divorced from reality as possible.

[@IbstarYT]

Yeah the reccomended ones are kinda easy, I did find the defence of england one to be tougher, might have been because on that patch raids were broken and I was getting massive ones each year. Hopefully community overhauls will change this.

[@lordDenis16]

It's funny how your last point about factions feeling samey is exactly the same point people made about Imperator: Rome when that came out 😂

[@IbstarYT]

Man dont remind me about rome, I was one of the few dudes still playing it when they anncounced they were moving onto new stuff, like damn paradox you finally get the game in a good place only to leave .....

[@lordDenis16]

@@IbstarYT same here! Although I was hoping they'd add similar marriage etc features from Ck 3 as sometimes, there was very little to do imo

[@IbstarYT]

Have you played the rome overhaul for ck3 ? Its pretty damn good

[@skeptic781]

Good video, I agree with most of it

[@IbstarYT]

Thanks !

[@F_Yale]

They really need to add secret societies back for next year's DLC.

[@IbstarYT]

Pretty sure theres a mod for it on the workshop

[@TV-jg2kj]

The biggest problem with Crusader Kings 3 is that the development is very, very slow and DLC is interesting.

[@IbstarYT]

Yup agreed, hopefully that will change soon though !

[@Mann_mit_Kaffee]

I don't miss the paradox dlc hell hole. Its a money grap.

[@IbstarYT]

Yeah thats my bad, the thumbnail text was supposed to be sarsactic like .. where is all the good dlc. I keep that in mind for the future !

[@Mann_mit_Kaffee]

@@IbstarYT No problem, keep up the good job

[@TheRavenShadowsWolf]

I'm more of a would be new entry into the series and from my view - from playthroughs I've seen on youtube recently - some of what you can do in this game gets pretty "involved." A clearly read UI does not necessarily make an easy game. There's at least ten (many more than) different points you'd have to focus on - all at once. I'm more of a turn based guy because I'm NOT good at that. There's the fact that historically; Kings did not long live who did lead their armies from the front. It put you at distinct disadvantage if you'd been too busy mongering wars, to sire heirs for example. There's a reason that the KING is the most guarded piece in Chess. This game is more like 20D4 chess if I'm honest. You'd REALLY have to know what you want out of it, and be VERY good at overall managment. In The Sims for example - my characters always did what I needed to as far as tasks I had to get done. Up until they got bored or had no fun... Then they were me in real life as far as interacting in general. Which if I wanted to do that, I'd stick to reality thanks. I'm less fond of how easy it is to get sick, get screwed by diseases everlasting - or screwed around on, which again; I'd stick to real life thanks - that pass through lineage (which frankly were not as common to report - but I'll agree were perhaps not uncommon; there's a reason porphyria spread in pockets amongst the nobility and royals) Being maimed and freaking Cancer - which they would not have called Cancer, since they did not know what it was. If there's a way to make a Truly Immortal MC and just futz around that does NOT involve mods, then I might bother trying to download this. But some people are leary of sites like Steam and GoG. Or online purchasing in general. I'd need to create a steam account to even maybe be able to buy this game - and since GoG has recently turned down a prepaid credit card; when every other of the 19 purchases I'd made from them was ALSO by prepaid card, a rather irksome event I must say - the hope to actually play this game even outside of will I be able to, is low. I'll also add that the price is for some ranges presently, on a low income or tight budget, prohibitively expensive as far as I saw on their page (which still told me I'd need Steam... which I don't get as I prefer single player campaign modes) Personally I'd like to go full Celt Berserker on everyone and turn Ireland into a ruling force... or maybe BE the reason Blue Eyes came about as prominently today as they have. Don't know if there's an Irish version to Ghengis, but I can damned sure try to make one. If I can actually successfully purchase the game and at all get it to consistently play. As to the Supernatural aspect; since porphyria did exist, and is literally called the Vampire disease, and Berserkers have historically been taken as Shape-Shifters, you do have some precedent for a war system between Vampires and Werewolves. Or werebears, if you really want to make it a picnic. [It would also be a way to organically doff the aging system if you choose and make hardier characters that come with maybe one specific debuff to take for the trade-off of "Immortality"] But then they'd have to put all the girls in that black leather catsuit xD It'd probably cause the rise of, well... more than just the Lycans. * On launch everything worked mostly fine - Man, does anyone even more than barely remember what that was like? o. O

[@IbstarYT]

Wow you must be one of the first gamers I have seen anti steam ? If there a particular reason your avoiding it, the workshop + sheet user base and refund policy alone seem worth it to me. I will say at least for me I have played a lot of paradox games so maybe the “scope” of choices and ui is something I overlook vs people who are newer. That said it’s been true for all paradox games that they are harder to watch than to play since once you get into a rhythm things tend to be cyclic. Would highly recommend getting it on sale you seem like the kind of person who would really enjoy it + steam has 1 click mods in workshop that have basically everything you want above plus some bigger overhauls in popular fantasy worlds

[@justinmccurdy9319]

I like to go the "big-brain" route with a character who masters the learning skill trees, generating tons of piety and using that piety to buy claims left and right. Never underestimate the learning skill.

[@IbstarYT]

I liked the learning tree for the health boosts never dived too deep into it though, will try it on my next run.

[@kaanmuhammedgunes1879]

Learning tree is the most op tree for long runs. It kinda goes downhill after 100 development though. I think the most over powered skill trees generally are martial for early game, learning for mid game and then stewardship for the late game. Diplomacy is the best one for a single character run and Intrigue is versitile but doesn't do much compared to the rest.

[@IbstarYT]

Yeah they over nerfed intrigue after that op hook money patch, tbh the tree itself needs a rework of some kind 1/3 of it is around stuff that’s secondary to what you normally would want from that tree

[@saxogrammatikus4195]

I hope they implemented Naval Combat in some time because I want to use Greek Fire!

[@IbstarYT]

It would be fun to use but you know paradox, the ai would not be able to use it at all or defend against it so it would either be the most op thing ever or nerfed to trash tier

[@saxogrammatikus4195]

@@IbstarYT I mean they have naval combat in EU IV and Hoi IV and in Imperator Rome and its nothing OP or complete shit. Also many Naval Battles was in that time period. They also could have many events and role play mechanics from that so your character could become mad or he finds the love for the sea and it reduce its stress level but harm its relationships.

[@IbstarYT]

@@saxogrammatikus4195 Honestly thats a really good point, I guess I am too burnt from HOI4. Maybe they might come with merchant/trade dlc ... im kinda hyped for that now you could add ship smugglers / coast invades too

[@jensandersen6933]

This aged well

[@IbstarYT]

Can’t tell if your being sarcastic :(

[@jensandersen6933]

@@IbstarYT no its just the new dlc is amazing, friendly banter thats all.

[@IbstarYT]

Yeah it’s a blast, I really can’t wait to see how the overhaul mods make use of it

[@Kingedwardiii2003]

@@IbstarYTAGOT will use it to the best of its ability

[@IbstarYT]

@tywinlannistergaming5502 Yup that, elder kings and fallen eagles are all on my radar, honestly ck3 overhauls are just so damn good even the lord of the rings one pre royal court was fun and then they went and added custom buildings

[@celwenileran2135]

What are you talking about? The Rally system is HORRENDOUS. One of the worst aspects of warfare. You designate a place, you nearly instantly raise all of your troops. Instead of physically moving your armies there. Which doesn't give any counterplay for invading armies to pick off the troops one by one. It doesn't give chance for players to play a bit strategically. It makes raiding insufferable because they raise the levies instantly wherever the need. It's just bad.

[@IbstarYT]

Its a much better system for newer players / less experienced and streamlined the system from ck2 a lot. I agree with your points though and im hoping in a future update paradox revamp the system slightly so say men at arms are up fast but levies take more time

[@johnnicholas1657]

I cant find a single mod which uses the sttuggle systrm

[@IbstarYT]

Struggle for britannia and Europre joins the struggle are 2 mods I know of !

[@Kingedwardiii2003]

The fallen eagle uses the Struggle system fir the migrations to Britain

[@RambleOn07]

Honestly, the modular religions killed ck3 for me. I miss having religions that actually felt like they mattered, like in ck2. I don't expect to play ck3 again until more interesting total conversation mods come out, like Geheimnisnacht. Not only that but the modular cultures and dynasty features just make it into a 4x on easy in the worst possible way.

[@IbstarYT]

There’s still hope paradox will update and address a lot of this through future dlc, maybe for specific regions and faiths expansions similar to Norse one but more expanded

[@anyoneatall3488]

Excuse me? Most religions in ck2 had no content Judaism had like one event, islam had iqta wich was a little different from feudalism, hinduism, jainism and budhism had some mechanics but from what i have seen they seem to be pretty similar to what they have in ck3 And then paganism was almost the same everywhere, unless you played nordic paganism had close to nothing Orthodox christianity had no content, nor did nestorian or coptic christianity, there was no content for shia muslims aside from o e society that most rulers wouldn't be a part of What do you mean religion was more diverse in ck2, that's just not true

[@SnoweyViking]

You know a huge expansion is just about to come out right?

[@IbstarYT]

Yup talked about it in the final section !

[@tarekomar54]

Predetermined path for crusading AI is not a solution at all… Crusades in real life took a lot of planning to secure a path and supply for the marching army. What I would like to see is more phases and events for crusading. Phase 1: Pope has % chance to give an inspiring speech that can either inspire all the knights in the realm or none at all… in this case as a ruler if ur knights are really interested in crusading due to the speech success percentage u’re forced to watch ur all ur best knights leave including the new accoladed knights in the new dlc which obviously u dont want so u have the 2nd option to give to their wishes and pledge urself with ur knights Phase 2: U pledged yourself now it’s time for planning. This is the cohesion phase which is determined by how united the crusader armies are. Let me explain, just like there is mechanic to sponsor a beneficiary, there should be a mechanic to set up a custom route to Jerusalem. Each region will suggest an optimal route with node points whereby armies can join up along the way and have good supply. These routes will be voted on by the crusaders and negotiated with neighboring rulers just as we saw in the 4 th crusade. There’s more events and mechanics centered around setting up supply routes for the crusaders which determines the morale and unity of the crusading forces and sets u up for failure or success. Phase 3: The crusade doesn’t just launch abruptly especially if any pledged ruler is in an active war there will be an event by the pope 3 months in advance to tell the rulers to prepare for the journey. Multiple events take place during the journey itself as ur army links up with other armies and as ur combined armies reach important checkpoints according to the planned route as u get closer to landing in or reaching the levant area. It’s important to mention the muslim army size would be hidden to add to the fear of not knowing what to expect unless u have spies and informants but those are not in the game lol. Now engaging in battles is gonna be risky for both sides and it’s gonna need a lot of strategy so sieges would need be overhauled by making Jerusalem and antioch and tyre complex castles like King’s landing in the AGOT mod with tiles to each part of the castle, supply carriages need to be added as men-at-arms unit in the battle mechanics of the game, as well as camp mechanics, levies need to be revisited bcuz levies are meant to be reserve units that get called up to be men-at-arms, so instead of arming a bunch of peasants and citizens ur levies act as manpower pools for ur men-at-arms and u can interact 3 ways with levies: (1)leave them be which keeps ur economy pretty strong, (2)call them up to be trained in order to act as reinforcements for ur men-at-arms, or (3)arm them all as unprofessional force with pretty low morale and poor equipment and devastating economic consequences of prematurely arming these insufficiently trained reserves bcuz there’s no standing armies. Anyway this will make it so the quality of the troops and morale through in game events, mechanics, traditions, religions, and buildings actually makes sense. And positioning is even more important as it can allow considerably larger forces to lose a battle or considerably higher quality forces to retreat. Battles in general will generate events during and after to create a story and legacy around the characters involved. Phase 4: The aftermath. The armies dont just magically disband until u reach ur own kingdom. There will be events surrounding ur knights and vassals who might choose to stay behind or follow u home whereby ur decisions in the events affects theirs. When it’s time to leave, a shameful flee in loss will cost a lot of money and prestige and fervor to set sail back home with harsh supply conditions, while a victorious crusade will provide to spoils of war to cover the expenses of traveling back home with enough supply as well… u can choose to make pitstops in the Mediterranean wherever u like but be careful the kind of events u will trigger from an unwelcoming host… the journey back will have events lamenting on the crusade, on the faith itself and on what to expect back home. The major return of the king in glory or defeat will have different event chains and a ton of flavor. Phase 5: setting up for other crusades. I haven’t thought in detail about this yet but the idea is to have continuity between each crusade. A lot of other changes to combat and strategy need to be made for this to work. But most importantly, a lot of love.

[@IbstarYT]

Lot of really good points, mine was really just a bandaid fix for something given how dumb the ai usually is. I would expect paradox to do a crusade focused dlc to add similar features to what you described, cant image they leave it like this or do a free overhaul of it. Would work well with the new travel mechanics they are adding in the upcoming dlc

[@timstrasser7448]

supernatural events are really the last thing Iwant to see in this game.

[@IbstarYT]

Fair but done right and being optional they could be fun, maybe something like a devil worshiping cult gaining power in your regions with events tied to it etc

[@Barnyee]

Yep

[@IbstarYT]

👍

[@lazyidiotofthemonth]

5 DLC in 3 years since Launch and thats with COVID 19 Pandemic delaying everything. I think they are doing fine with the DLC.

[@grxkas5552]

Paradox be like, pay 300 euro to play 1 game

[@IbstarYT]

Guess that’s what happens where there is nobody else making games like them :(

[@frankargenti]

30 dollar for the same experience .. now you have to fastfaward to reach events .... wow

[@Kingedwardiii2003]

? I’m having huge amounts of fun for the first time since I’ve started playing CK3. Stop playing on 5 speed play on 3 speed and get to know your ruler and his family

[@1992zorro]

I will tell you what the vision of Paradox is. It called money and to get that from this game you need a couple of things. It's need to be talked about that's why its full of Meme content, its easy so a lot of people can play it because complex games are not fun for everyone. This way you create a popular and mainstream game which looks like its breaking every record in money but as at the core its nothing more than a dull and stupid game in one of the most interesting historical era of humankind.

[@foxdavion6865]

The game DESPERATELY needs both a proper holy war/crusading system, the current one feels half baked. Along with a proper horde system, more goverment types which are avalible and playable (where is the tribal elders elector systems? or the republic systems? or the holy order systems? those should be easy to implement and should of been in the game from the start, again proof the devs don't understand their own game engine) and plagues. They dabbled early on with the Hungarian migration from launch, but then never bothered with it again. The upcoming Tours and Tournaments is a step in the right direction but as usual Paradox just waits to see what modders do then they steal the modders code. It is bloody lazy and dishonest. From what I can tell these devs spend way too much time hanging around larpers and renaissance fairs while subscribing to questionable history sources rather than academic papers, they seem to be massive fans of Fictional and Renaissance depictions of chivalry both considering Knights in this game are freaking space marines who between them are equal to 100 normal men when you turn them into ubermonsters via custom character or train them using an exceptionally talented general and the inclusion of the upcoming murder feast. Meanwhile, attrition seems to be something that only really impacts sieges because then man pool magically regenerates after every stand down of forces, you just have to wait out the "at war" muster penalty, which is always shorter than the time it takes to siege your castles anyway by the AI. Very different team to those who make CK2, a game where warfare is subject to the same rules as every other paradox game... the ol' attrition system which hillerously the AI is tied to (Just play Zunbil in CK2 and you'll quickly discover when you get holy war'd on by neighbours they'll just sit at your boarder because attrition would be so high taking your lands the ai stops itself from moving, but it declares anyway because it is coded to declare, it is hilarious). The only thing they got sort of right in CK3 was religion, as to be fair religions in CK2 were very memey and don't forget the pope horse. With that said, CK3 is full of really dumb random events and I won't even go into complaining about the unmentionable elements. I am glade you posted this video, as it addresses pretty much every single issue I've also had with this game, which for some reason is forbidden to be talked about in the community, oh no post something like this on the official discord you get banned, hmmm I wonder why? It is because Paradox refuses to take their head out of the sand? Or is it because they're trying to pool the wool over our eyes and hide the pathetic truth, that CK3 is half baked and we keep lying to ourselves it isn't, well it is, I say this not because I hate the game but because I love the game and I feel it has been done an injustice by it's devs who come off as armatures who steal the work of modders who are more talented and experienced coders than they are; That is right, I am calling out the devs as hacks, their programmers and designers are hacks, talentless hacks, when developers don't realise the potential of their own game engine suggests clearly to me the coders hacked their code and didn't understand the systems they used, they don't even understand their own game engine, which means they're fake. The only talent there are the artists, oh right they outsourced their art didn't they, to actually talented artists who are freelance in the industry who make art for everyone else too. So I guess there isn't any talent at Paradox. I guarantee Paradox has a company policy of letting modders do all the work for them, which is a BAD POLICY. Especially when they are in the habit of stealing the work of modders, passing it up as their own then charging people $30 for privilege of playing their plagiarised work. case in point, they've done that with Stellaris for years and recently stole the menu HUD code from Princes of Darkness.

[@Savaris96]

Especially with Tours and Tournaments its a great Medieval Sim with focus on the romantic medieval fantasy, Become King of England (or any other Kingdom for that matter) and spend the rest of your time pissing away your tax money for Tournaments and Ignore 70% of your duties Other than that its too easy to conquer large pieces of land if you really want to, unless you get the extremely buggy friends and foes DLC, your Dynasty will sooner or later consist of Gigachads Tl;dr, if you wanna roleplay Henry VIII, CK3 is great right now, but if you want any of the depth that CK2 offered in terms of playstyle and challenge, then you´ll be found wanting I want the Republics with their mechanics back, I wanna be scared of Nomads again and I wanna see the Byzantines Fail because of their shitty Government system again, rather than just being another big Empire that might or might not implode

[@IbstarYT]

I view TaT more as another fountadtion dlc to setup future content, hope would be one day to be able to start as say a merc band and work up to kingdom etc

[@boomstickYT]

NOOO YOU NEED TO SELL US MORE DLC

[@IbstarYT]

more quality dlc would be nice yeah !

[@thematthewshow2672]

its really disapponting have all the language and no italian... come on do i really need to install a mod for that? seriously? it's 2023 just pay some one to do that if you really dont want to..

[@IbstarYT]

They claim its because the playerbase is too small ... really stupid excuse

[@ChaoticNeutralMatt]

You could say they are also incintivised to take their time and charge for every step of the way. For better and definitely worse. Edit: to be clear I enjoy ck3 and Stellaris despite my many *completely fair* gripes

[@IbstarYT]

Yeah but on the other hand the dlc policy of old really stopped new players from getting into the games and it does seem like for the new titles paradox claim to be trying something different by putting the core mechanic free and the spice paid Tbh though it’s hard to say from just ck3/vik3 if the policy has actually changed due to there not being enough of them. Tours and tournaments has been great so far though !

[@zondor8123]

Comparing ck2 to ck3 is stupid. Just wait till dlc pouring out as much as ck2

[@bartmcdougall7518]

A loved the game but the dlc killed it goodbye paradox😢 No to payed DLC

[@IbstarYT]

Paradox classic by now though !

[@Ashadar_Resouley]

ck2 is the better game in pretty much every way sure ck3 has some QoL stuff but aside from some of that ck2 is better

[@IbstarYT]

Hopefully paradox can continue to develop upon ck3 to make it better in the future !

[@Ashadar_Resouley]

@@IbstarYT honesty i think they would have been better off just remastering ck2 and adding some the QoL changes they made to ck3 and put them in ck2 two and just keep developing ck2 but without changing what makes ck2 ck2

[@anyoneatall3488]

I personally have found ck3 to be more fun than ck2 but i could see the oposite being a fair opinion

[@Ashadar_Resouley]

@@anyoneatall3488 honestly the main reasons i like ck2 more then ck3 is because they moved the main bit of the UI from the top left to the right top and it's just super awkward having it over there also i'm not a fan of the new combat there are only two things in ck3 that i like really those being the new 3d characters and that you can make your own character with out disabling achievements if those two things were in ck2 then ck3 would be the worst game in every way

[@michadomeracki5910]

I am gonna tell you what is wrong here: gamers who lost their dignity. Guys let's be honest CK3 should be called CK2 remake. You bought the same game again but with less content and you expect Paradox to respect you? There is no souls and no balls in CK3, this game is so soulless. My main Paradox game is EU4 and I don't want EU5, I don't believe in their skills anymore and I am not gonna buy the same game again, I already have EU4 on which I spent a fortune. Dignity guys, dignity.

[@ksiadzrobak5369]

Dignity in eu4? This game is joke for me. 😂 Reworking rework for Money and call it dlc...

[@michadomeracki5910]

@@ksiadzrobak5369 You are a little right. I buy dlc for EU4 because I must and Paradox knows it but creating a whole so called new game only for it to end up as that joke of a game called CK3 bro.... this is a real joke.

[@ksiadzrobak5369]

@@michadomeracki5910 I think EU5 comming next year.

[@michadomeracki5910]

@@ksiadzrobak5369 Not for me. Enough buying the same games. Paradox is no longer creative.

[@jwb_666]

CK3 feels soulless I bought it at launch and I wish I hadn't. It's just a bad game, it's shallow and honestly uninteresting when compared to CK2. Graphics and general improvements aside the game feels shallow and empty. And don't give me the DLC crap

[@IbstarYT]

I think the base is solid, though its been solid for years now. DLC is how paradox games get their legs but so far its been meh. I still havent felt like going back to it, hoping once the community overhauls are done in a few years ill be back.

[@knutrockberg2118]

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[@knutrockberg2118]

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[@jakubblaha4904]

Ive tried to get into CK3 many times and I just cant, its a confusing mess of tabs and what feels like unrelated separate features. CK3 DLCs are a joke, once a year, an overpriced piece of crap that does basically nothing, even CK2 Sunset Invasion is better. :-D Its just a disappointing and sad sequel in so many ways for me, from gameplay, UI to expansions

[@IbstarYT]

It’s funny so many ck2 vets struggled with the ui for ck3 it’s definitely dumbed down but I understand it’s to help new players get in without being overwhelmed That said I have no idea how this ui will still be working by the time we got 5-10 more dlcs

[@hithere2776]

Royal court dlc ruins the game it’s very ambitious.

[@IbstarYT]

I wouldnt say it ruins the game, for the most part you can just ignore the mechanics if you dont want to interact with them.

[@anyoneatall3488]

How does it ruin the game?

[@sankaplays3098]

All these DLC's should really be part of the base game. Its literally like we're playing an engine with some assets....

[@IbstarYT]

Paradox are the only ones making games like this so … there’s not much reason for them to make stuff free

[@glassface9953]

Paradox customers complain too much DLC and now whine not enough DLC

[@IbstarYT]

My bad, thumbnail text was supposed to be ironic like … where is all the good dlc but didn’t work ! There’s not much dlc for ck3 and most of it isn’t even that good either

[@wisereaper4747]

boggles the mind, doesn't it?

[@thomasj3421]

CK 3 is such a boring game. You play it for 20 hours and never touch it again. Paradox is not innovating and this is why their future is bleak. Vic 3 is terrible too.

[@IbstarYT]

The modding scene is great though, hopefully future dlcs can add some new mechanics for modders to make even better in their own overhauls.