What Happened to Half-Life's Lost Heroes? | Gina Cross & Colette Green | FULL Half-Life Lore

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Skyrionn

Skyrionn

Күн бұрын

The Half-Life universe has had many strong characters throughout many disasters. Many know of Gordon, Alyx and even Adrian Shephard - but not many know of Gina and Colette. Two people who chose to save the people of Black Mesa instead of escaping the incident themselves.
How did they meet? What role did they play in the Resonance Cascade? and why do many Half-Life fans not know of their story? In this video, I explore the lore and story behind the Dr. Gina Cross and Dr. Colette Green in the Half-Life series.
Timestamps
00:00 Introduction
00:55 Before Black Mesa
02:52 Early Years at Black Mesa
07:56 The Lead up to the Black Mesa Incident
09:41 The Black Mesa Incident
14:21 Legacy
15:50 Behind the Scenes
17:11 Closing Thoughts
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@Skyrionn
@Skyrionn Жыл бұрын
Did you play Half-Life decay back in the day on the Playstation 2? And would you like a future Half-Life game to implement a co-op mechanic?
@therogueheero
@therogueheero Жыл бұрын
I did play it but I had nobody to play with. I would love a rerelease with this on it with online coop.
@ambrusraul2297
@ambrusraul2297 Жыл бұрын
i am expecting heavy lore behind man hacks and hidden man hack assassins as i believe than initially they where human technology
@miaumischen
@miaumischen Жыл бұрын
@@therogueheero it exists, it's a mod for halflife that adds it in with online or offline
@The6th-one
@The6th-one Жыл бұрын
Could you consider adding English subtitles (not autogenerated)please? Im not a very good English speaker so i rely a lot on reading English language. Thank you 🙏. P.S: Sent from H.E.C.U Marine in the codename of R3v6
@atariboy9084
@atariboy9084 Жыл бұрын
I own and played PS2 game with the Decay part and every time Colette Green Auto-play her self as you control Gina she laugh a lot as she killing bad guys in the game. She's the tomboy of the two.
@Djc00lness
@Djc00lness Жыл бұрын
If the 2 suits missing at the start of the game are because they're wearing them, that's insanely cool
@concept5631
@concept5631 10 ай бұрын
Agreed
@saberwooah
@saberwooah 7 ай бұрын
It is confirmed that Gina and Colette are canon, so that’s actually cool.
@Zedorfska
@Zedorfska 6 ай бұрын
​@@saberwooahwhere is this confirmed?
@Zedorfska
@Zedorfska 5 ай бұрын
@GordonFreemannnn I don't really think that classifies as being canon
@dookiefingers8436
@dookiefingers8436 5 ай бұрын
​@@Zedorfskait happened in the game. If the Valve creators/developers *purposefully* put it in their game, then its canon.
@standardzombie3454
@standardzombie3454 Жыл бұрын
16:36 The reason why Gina's model is different from how it is in Decay is because Gearbox used her low poly deathmatch playermodel from the original Half-Life. To add onto that, Decay was the last expansion made from Opposing Force being the first so the design change for Gina didn't exist then.
@VinVonVoom
@VinVonVoom Жыл бұрын
Even then we don't know for sure if this wasn't just chosen as a random HEV scientist, it's Schrodinger's Gina
@cheesybiscuits2103
@cheesybiscuits2103 11 күн бұрын
Ahh okay. I wasn’t sure why in the wiki it says she died but the suit didn’t match the body color. That sucks she died. Would have been cool to see her cameo in a future half life.
@hiddendesire3076
@hiddendesire3076 Жыл бұрын
Can’t help but wonder what would’ve happened if they never sent out that distress signal. Probably would be a lot more survivors.
@Traktorman04
@Traktorman04 Жыл бұрын
Maybe but without it Shepard wouldn't be able to kick out race X and without that and the nuke it would've terraformed earth.
@darkranger116
@darkranger116 Жыл бұрын
I think them putting out the call is simply an unavoidable part of fate for this timeline. I mean, if i was in a facility under attack from another dimension, you better bet money on the fact that i'd be calling the military.
@Swordsoulreaver
@Swordsoulreaver Жыл бұрын
Quite the opposite, there would be almost no survivors. There wouldn't even really be anything for gordon to come back to. I'm sure g-man wouldn't LET the distress signal not be sent out, since earth and humanity going extinct seem to be against his employers interests.
@theprancingrat
@theprancingrat 11 ай бұрын
It doesn't really matter because the resonance cascade, even without the seven hour war, really fucked earth and its populace up. Keeping things to black Mesa, few if not that no one is trained to fight aliens, and aren't armed for it. So it would be Gina, Collette, Barney, and Gordon in their own perspective areas trying their best to survive, save lives, resolve their own issues, and get out. Assuming gman doesn't yoink em anyways. Only lambda core comes to mind of being armed enough to keep a tight hold against the cascade until they run out of resources. The final thing to say is: the black ops probably would have been sent in. I don't think the government wouldn't have an insider or ten to give details where they can. Thank you for reading this and i hope you have a good day :D
@SaimesierP
@SaimesierP 11 ай бұрын
Weren't they coming regardless that's what they were training for.
@samz8691
@samz8691 Жыл бұрын
You can actually hear both Colette and Gina speak, however this requires playing Decay Solo, as both characters when under AI control, have voice lines for combat, (As well as alot more unused voice lines indicating that the AI for them was intended to be more developed beyond basically being a turret until you take control of them again.) this means they never speak when actually playing Decay "As intended" in co-op though. Gina's voicelines are more straight-laced and professional while Colette seems to be enjoying things a bit too much.
@klaykid117
@klaykid117 Жыл бұрын
I like the idea that Colette still out there helping the resistance
@MrLim-wq2gn
@MrLim-wq2gn Жыл бұрын
Gina Cross and Colette Green are the two most Underrated characters in the Half Life series.
@zerrierslizer1
@zerrierslizer1 Жыл бұрын
ayo, what about my mans the Vortigaunt Janitor??
@ghoost8943
@ghoost8943 Жыл бұрын
I hope the green makes an appearance in the next halflife games
@history_moose
@history_moose Жыл бұрын
@SneaX1X TM look at the Gordon freeman lore video views
@Inbraneinthememsane
@Inbraneinthememsane 5 ай бұрын
Why? Because they are some females in a lab suit ?
@alesta2212
@alesta2212 Жыл бұрын
15:05 I wouldn't be so quick to say that Gina is canonically dead. Opposing Force was released way before Deacy, and the only HEV model that isn't the helmet one is of Gina's, I don't think they even had Decay's story planned at that time. Gearbox have attempted to implement story elements that Valve don't approve of before. I might just be coping, though.
@tapgames3465
@tapgames3465 Жыл бұрын
Also randy pitchford said it
@internetxxx_pl0r3r_xxx77
@internetxxx_pl0r3r_xxx77 Жыл бұрын
Makes me wonder what a Freeman's Mind version of these two would've been like.
@concept5631
@concept5631 10 ай бұрын
Anger
@fabianvandalen8161
@fabianvandalen8161 Жыл бұрын
Seeing a new video popping up from Skyrionn always puts a smile on my face! Love it again!
@Skyrionn
@Skyrionn Жыл бұрын
Glad you like them!
@Shin3y
@Shin3y Жыл бұрын
Same here!
@lewiswillis993
@lewiswillis993 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for covering these two... I pray that they get some recognition in the future of Half-Life for their hard work and bravery in the incident!
@zerrierslizer1
@zerrierslizer1 Жыл бұрын
Valve would make a lot of money if they made a Half Life game where either Shepard or Colette, or maybe even both, had to survive the new world. i would say that the best possible moment for Shepard for example to be reinstated is just as City 17 falls, but he wakes up in City 14, which was destroyed and Overrun before City 7 was built (which is why it is just Gone from the possible station stops shown as you start Half-Life 2) it would make sense to put him there from a story perspective, as City 14 was not too far from Nevada apparently. hell, they could even have him return to Black Mesa, or what's left of it, to find some answers, and maybe even some tools or weapons to use, like the Gluon gun perhaps?? IF they get Shepard into the series again, i hope they let him have his Pipewrench and Deagle as well, Laser Sight included.
@busterbackster1
@busterbackster1 Жыл бұрын
Well her old partner is dead so could be a way to do co-op again
@SirFreelanders35
@SirFreelanders35 Жыл бұрын
At one point during the development of half-life, Gina would have a more significant role in half-life as an alternative protagonist, and as Gordon's wife, it makes me think they could have been dating in the current version of half-life.
@asdbef3667
@asdbef3667 Жыл бұрын
I think it was green rather than gina Gina looks too old for freeman
@SirFreelanders35
@SirFreelanders35 Жыл бұрын
It was gina, PurpleColonel has a video about her, that covered the interview with Gabe talking about cut features
@concept5631
@concept5631 10 ай бұрын
Oh man. Poor Gordon.
@dxfan18
@dxfan18 Жыл бұрын
I had to use a PC port for Decay and it was frustrating having to switch between Gina and Collette all the time. Fortunately, with Solo Mission, that won't be a problem soon! Plus, I completely forgot about the crowbar jamming the lift. Somebody must have known what will happen and put it there deliberately! Also, I know it's not canon, but there's a sequel for Collette being made on moddb called Half-Life: Recovery and she may have survived and joined the Resistance in HL2 Through the city, finding another species other than the vortigaunts they could communicate with, they actually got her voice actor for the trailer.
@maverickmuff1601
@maverickmuff1601 Жыл бұрын
Been playing Half Life since I was 4 in 2002 and have been obsessed ever since. Can never learn enough tiny details of everything! Thank you for the info!
@adamnxx
@adamnxx 4 ай бұрын
ain’t no way u playing this when u 4
@Lefelmak
@Lefelmak Жыл бұрын
Awesome! I was waiting for you to cover these two. Excellent video, as always, much love.
@Wayward_Warlock
@Wayward_Warlock Жыл бұрын
Fuck yeah, another Skyrionn upload! Watching this in work in a little bit, thanks for making these videos man, they carry me through my day a little at a time 🥰
@Skyrionn
@Skyrionn Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching them! I really appreciate it!
@alesta2212
@alesta2212 Жыл бұрын
Great to see a video on Decay! It deserves way more recognition!
@theworstisover1323
@theworstisover1323 Жыл бұрын
Great Video! Loving the deep dive into any Half-Life lore!
@Skyrionn
@Skyrionn Жыл бұрын
I do try to post a lore video once a week. There's so much more to come.
@CGProducer2011
@CGProducer2011 Жыл бұрын
Amazing lore video as always!
@stormhought
@stormhought Жыл бұрын
Nothing like a good Skyrionn video on a bad day!
@Skyrionn
@Skyrionn Жыл бұрын
I hope your day got better
@yogore
@yogore Жыл бұрын
You know what video I'd like to see? Gordon Frohman, from "Concerned." It would likely have to be an April Fools Day installment or something, but it would still be see how well he really fits into the Half-Life story...
@Scottc82
@Scottc82 Жыл бұрын
Let's go I've been waiting for this for a while now! Next could we possibly get a mini video about the portal storms?
@KawaiiJunimoGaming
@KawaiiJunimoGaming Жыл бұрын
I just found your channel today, this is my 5th video so far XD I love lots of the games you cover! :D
@whiteelephant3673
@whiteelephant3673 Жыл бұрын
Damn... I didn't know that Gina didn't lived through the resonance cascade events( Rip you bright girl😔
@Skyrionn
@Skyrionn Жыл бұрын
It was a sad discovery in Opposing Force. Maybe one day we'll find out the fate of Colette!
@masterbeef5299
@masterbeef5299 Жыл бұрын
You make excellent videos I love listening while working it's great 😃 ❤️
@SerpentNight
@SerpentNight Жыл бұрын
11:46 Could Dr. Rosenberg get his own vid sometime? He was in Blue Shift too.
@Skyrionn
@Skyrionn Жыл бұрын
If there's enough information, absolutely!
@bison_life
@bison_life Жыл бұрын
Great watch! Having played HL1 numerous times as a kid, I had no idea this game had such rich lore! This one was a breeze to listen to.
@ajxx9987
@ajxx9987 Жыл бұрын
Imagine if one of them was the female scientist we see in half life alyx
@Skyrionn
@Skyrionn Жыл бұрын
That'd be the best twist
@ajxx9987
@ajxx9987 Жыл бұрын
@@Skyrionn people theorize it could be colette green
@eragonbromsson1122
@eragonbromsson1122 Жыл бұрын
A popular theory is that she is Colette Green.
@standardzombie3454
@standardzombie3454 Жыл бұрын
If Half-Life Decay was released on PC, it would've been more popular but it still holds up as being a good storyline game for Half-Life.
@Skyrionn
@Skyrionn Жыл бұрын
i 100% agree
@callmestan117
@callmestan117 Жыл бұрын
I love Half-Life and recently I found out your channel. Your videos are awesome.
@Skyrionn
@Skyrionn Жыл бұрын
Welcome aboard!
@MP-hz3ye
@MP-hz3ye Жыл бұрын
Amazing work
@taf0457
@taf0457 4 ай бұрын
15:05 In their video on saving every scientist in Opposing Force, SaintJam notes that, since it is unlikely that the Xen destinations are restocked between trips, they argue that each destination with unique loot are separate destinations, including the one that the dead Gina body is in which has 3 loot variations. This could mean that there are 3 dead Ginas, or there are 3 dead bodies that happen to look like Gina, or SaintJam's theory where one is Gina while the other 2 aren't. Alternatively, as I'd like to believe, they could be lifeless duplicates of her body that were created during various teleportations, or possibly merged duplicates of Gina and Colette to explain Gina in Colette's suit.
@AngelofGrace96
@AngelofGrace96 Жыл бұрын
Damn, I didn't know them, but they've got such cool character and such deep lore. Thanks for introducing me to Colette and Gina, Skyrionn!
@Skyrionn
@Skyrionn Жыл бұрын
They really were super interesting. It's a shame they were limited to a PS2
@specialresp3ct
@specialresp3ct Жыл бұрын
YESSSSS I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺😭
@atariboy9084
@atariboy9084 Жыл бұрын
Every time Colette Green Auto-play her self as you control Gina she laugh as she killing bad guys in the game. She's the tomboy of the two.
@rolltic
@rolltic Жыл бұрын
This just makes me look forward to Decay: solo mission even more now. Hell even Peer Review I'm buzzing to play too :)
@Skyrionn
@Skyrionn Жыл бұрын
Solo Mission looks incredible
@tffti7058
@tffti7058 Жыл бұрын
love your vids man XD
@Skyrionn
@Skyrionn Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@KiiDbeamO
@KiiDbeamO Жыл бұрын
Love this stuff, have you’ve talked about the G-Man through the whole Series and or more about him we don't know
@18pegi
@18pegi Жыл бұрын
Man i love these videos👍
@chipsdubbo5.56
@chipsdubbo5.56 Жыл бұрын
I love these games, and I had no idea there was this much lore!
@Skyrionn
@Skyrionn Жыл бұрын
There's so much
@chipsdubbo5.56
@chipsdubbo5.56 Жыл бұрын
@@Skyrionn well I better sub then 😎
@PikkaBird
@PikkaBird Жыл бұрын
It always bugged me that the map shown at 3:30 doesn't have the HEV suit storage section of the locker room. I know it's a minor niggle, but is there a texture replacer for that one out there?
@fabi3817
@fabi3817 Жыл бұрын
Great video! I didn't know anything about Gina and Colette so far (and I'm in love with Half Life since 1998 :) ), so thank you. One question: is it possible to play decay on PC?
@sephariath3185
@sephariath3185 9 ай бұрын
There's a mod on moddb that brings it to pc with online multiplayer if this helps.
@fabi3817
@fabi3817 9 ай бұрын
cool, that's good to know. Thanks! @@sephariath3185
@SerpentNight
@SerpentNight Жыл бұрын
Still waiting on the fan made version of Decay to be released on Steam.
@Skyrionn
@Skyrionn Жыл бұрын
From what I can tell, the person is still working on it. I'm looking forward to it too
@KamKrzem
@KamKrzem 11 ай бұрын
Hold up. WHY was there a crowbar inside the elevator mechanism of the antimass spectrometer?
@havic1000
@havic1000 Жыл бұрын
Can you do the full story of dishonored please?
@samuelantoniocastillomeza5034
@samuelantoniocastillomeza5034 Жыл бұрын
Could never finish Decay but playing ad Dr. Green and Dr. Cross was very cool. Too bad it's they never made it out of Black Mesa being realistic. Cross was my fave at the time but prefer Green nowdays.
@Skyrionn
@Skyrionn Жыл бұрын
I think I have a shared love for both of them.
@BuckBlaziken
@BuckBlaziken Жыл бұрын
They should get their own modern spin off series imo, they’re just as much heroes in their own right but they’re widely forgotten in the lore of Half Life. They also make for really good female protagonists.
@Skyrionn
@Skyrionn Жыл бұрын
I 100% agree
@osokratos
@osokratos Жыл бұрын
I miss Lazlo. 😭
@Shin3y
@Shin3y Жыл бұрын
“Babe wake up! New skyrionn video!” On a serious note, I love each and every one of you lore videos, they got me back into half-life, and man I forgot how good these games were!
@gamiezion
@gamiezion Жыл бұрын
collet bashed the elevator... didn't she?
@squirrele.1266
@squirrele.1266 Жыл бұрын
My 2 favorite characters.
@Skyrionn
@Skyrionn Жыл бұрын
They are great characters
@josephleebob3828
@josephleebob3828 Жыл бұрын
12:39 what do you mean by receiving dampening locks
@newcastleman86
@newcastleman86 Жыл бұрын
I heard that JJ Abrams is going to produce a Half-Life movie and Quintin Tarantino would like to direct. I would like it to be a tv series instead of a movie because there is so much story to cover. What do you think? Great video John!
@Skyrionn
@Skyrionn Жыл бұрын
I heard that too. I can't say I've looked into it too much through. I'd be down for additional Half-Life content though! A series would be the best way to go. Considering The Last of Us was brilliant for the first episode, I'd say it could be great.
@newcastleman86
@newcastleman86 Жыл бұрын
@@Skyrionn I have a The Last of Us poster in my gaming room. The show is good!
@Zack-zv1qs
@Zack-zv1qs Жыл бұрын
*Screams in inverted controls*
@venomouscorgi
@venomouscorgi Жыл бұрын
is the campaign with Gina and Colette in the remake black mesa?
@TheKotaCan
@TheKotaCan Жыл бұрын
I hope you make videos on a variety of games! Not just half life.
@Skyrionn
@Skyrionn Жыл бұрын
I did Portal last week :) I have some Doom, L4D, TF2 and Quake planned too!
@TheKotaCan
@TheKotaCan Жыл бұрын
@@Skyrionn yup, I loved that video
@KaihanDTuna
@KaihanDTuna Жыл бұрын
I first encounter gina at half life 1 and found her dead body right at the end boss fight down on acid pool
@solyccndy1075
@solyccndy1075 Жыл бұрын
Great :)
@HybridGax
@HybridGax Жыл бұрын
Guys, we need to get this guy the silver play button. EVERYONE SUBSCRIBE TO HIM! HE'S DEDICADED AND DESERVES IT!
@Skyrionn
@Skyrionn Жыл бұрын
Much appreciated. We're so close to it too!
@hmm8445
@hmm8445 Жыл бұрын
I wonder what happened to the scientist and guards who were home sick during the black Mesa incident
@SixtyFourJr
@SixtyFourJr Жыл бұрын
7 hours later.
@im-alwaaayzwatching
@im-alwaaayzwatching Жыл бұрын
Both of their initials are reversed to eachother GC/CG
@denifnaf5874
@denifnaf5874 Жыл бұрын
Didn't purple colonel and richter overdrive cover them?
@Skyrionn
@Skyrionn Жыл бұрын
I know Richter covered them a while back. I've heard Colonels name around but haven't come across their channel yet. They were always on my list to cover ☺
@concept5631
@concept5631 10 ай бұрын
It would be cool if Colette appeared in Half Life 3.
@faint_star
@faint_star 8 ай бұрын
Maybe they should do a spinoff game where you're doing scientific missions in the Borderworld Xen before the events of Half-Life.
@taizepottery7026
@taizepottery7026 11 ай бұрын
on about 8:39 you said the people of black mesa found the crystal but didn't the g man gave it to black mesa
@_Jestah
@_Jestah Жыл бұрын
a cool co-op game would be Gordon and alyx.
@DeathScepter
@DeathScepter Жыл бұрын
i always had a massive crush on Gina Cross. Both of them are awesome and attractive as well. I do think they are proper action girls that are attractive
@straweddd
@straweddd Жыл бұрын
colette also talks btw
@aaronatwood9298
@aaronatwood9298 Жыл бұрын
I do really wish one of them had been included in HL2. Would have made for better continuity.
@garadrada5580
@garadrada5580 5 ай бұрын
تسديد جميلة مشاء الله ❤ الله يسدد رميكم وينصركم و يثبتكم
@Poltard
@Poltard Жыл бұрын
Really wish we got another Co-Op Half Life game, I mean if Portal did it so can Half Life…. again.
@Skyrionn
@Skyrionn Жыл бұрын
Maybe one day
@saschaberger3212
@saschaberger3212 Жыл бұрын
Go get yourself some Sven coop and play through all of HL1 content with others. And yes, I really hope that too for new HL Content
@zaydenperkins250
@zaydenperkins250 Жыл бұрын
you could say things would be diffrent if gina didnt cross paths with green (get it crossed paths im so funny)
@aleo404
@aleo404 6 ай бұрын
I think it happend May 16, 2004/5
@codymcgrath2.3bviews3secon7
@codymcgrath2.3bviews3secon7 Жыл бұрын
Cool more unheard of lore
@Skyrionn
@Skyrionn Жыл бұрын
There is so much!
@codymcgrath2.3bviews3secon7
@codymcgrath2.3bviews3secon7 Жыл бұрын
@@Skyrionn looking forward to watch more
@MattiCore
@MattiCore Жыл бұрын
What about Otis & Gus after HL1? 😅
@Skyrionn
@Skyrionn Жыл бұрын
I doubt there's any lore at all but it may be worth looking in to!
@timotejantaek412
@timotejantaek412 4 ай бұрын
Are the maps in gmod?
@Skyrionn
@Skyrionn 4 ай бұрын
Some are.
@timotejantaek412
@timotejantaek412 4 ай бұрын
​@@Skyrionn are they like Ht1accident2 or what are their names...bcs i will be rey surprised to see HL:Decay maps in Gmod
@Skyrionn
@Skyrionn 4 ай бұрын
Nah, all the decay maps are from the Solo Mission mod. Other parts of Black Mesa are mostly in gmod
@timotejantaek412
@timotejantaek412 4 ай бұрын
@@Skyrionn oh ok
@hobosnake1
@hobosnake1 Жыл бұрын
Anyone else ever feel like the g man is a representation of Valve itself? Or some other meta-narrative fixture? I could easily be wrong, but my gut just says to me that he is. Don't even know why.
@KidzX_Offical
@KidzX_Offical Жыл бұрын
who here wants decay on pc steam?
@D-2340
@D-2340 Жыл бұрын
I hope, you get paid for your effort on maing these videos about every little detail in these games.
@Skyrionn
@Skyrionn Жыл бұрын
Hopefully one day we'll see them return
@brug6110
@brug6110 Жыл бұрын
ONG??
@dick-diddling-bandit
@dick-diddling-bandit Жыл бұрын
14:28 :3
@CardinalsRadiance
@CardinalsRadiance Жыл бұрын
Hello
@Skyrionn
@Skyrionn Жыл бұрын
Hello!
@josephleebob3828
@josephleebob3828 Жыл бұрын
ok
@Skyrionn
@Skyrionn Жыл бұрын
ok
@josephleebob3828
@josephleebob3828 Жыл бұрын
@@Skyrionn hi
@imperialnypiwosz3185
@imperialnypiwosz3185 Жыл бұрын
I wouldn't trust Randy Pitchford with his statement about gina. Randy has nothing to say about current state of the half-life lore. Valve has full control of the lore. Combine Overwiki says that her death is a possibilty but not confirmed one (by valve).
@mrwheatthins2413
@mrwheatthins2413 8 ай бұрын
If you're going by what Valve says, then Gina doesn't exist. All that does exist is the unnamed hologram instructor. None of Decay, Blue Shift, or Opposing Force occurred. Valve doesn't consider them canon. Randy is the CEO of Gearbox. He's the most reliable source we have.
@winternightst7001
@winternightst7001 4 ай бұрын
@@mrwheatthins2413 Marc Laidlaw stated that they do not "get involved in issues of canonicity," that "canon itself is non-canon," and that there is "no official stance," "just the games" as they are.
@winternightst7001
@winternightst7001 4 ай бұрын
+ if we had to go by plot holes & retconning, then half life 2 would be doomed even if we just took half life 1 into account
@mrwheatthins2413
@mrwheatthins2413 4 ай бұрын
@@winternightst7001 Marc says the fans can come up with their own canon. Marc, and the rest of the writers at Valve, do not take the expansions into account while writing and do not personally consider them canon.
@winternightst7001
@winternightst7001 4 ай бұрын
@@mrwheatthins2413I am yet to see a legitimate source for this, and again, if we were to go by plot holes then half life 2 shouldnt even exist in the first place because it already collides with half life 1. A great thing about gearbox's expansions is that they make a great job at providing greater context to the black mesa incident whilst keeping it inbounds of the half life 1 universe. Barney escapes but we still dont know much about him personally, which means he could have happened to go into half life 2, Shepard is left on stasis indefinitly which prevents interaction in a sequel and we know atleast 1 of the decay characters die, so we can assume Colette could have too. If for example, we didnt take Blue Shift into account, then half life 2's barney is just some weird retconning that inserts a random security guard as a important character. Whilst if we did take it into account it adds another layer to the character that makes it more understanding why its there, (plus the name not being just Barney but Barney Calhoun).
@hassan-GD
@hassan-GD 5 ай бұрын
gman married colette
@29485webp
@29485webp Жыл бұрын
You said that they helped out alot in during the bmi and then expalined how they failed to stop the xen invasion twice, made things harder for any surviors, and then tried to run away but died.
@zipobob1
@zipobob1 Жыл бұрын
When is G-man full lore coming?
@Skyrionn
@Skyrionn Жыл бұрын
Sometime soon
@gabrieldiniz6430
@gabrieldiniz6430 Жыл бұрын
Hello algorithm
@Skyrionn
@Skyrionn Жыл бұрын
Thanks Gabriel!
@galbelol766
@galbelol766 Жыл бұрын
Early!!
@Skyrionn
@Skyrionn Жыл бұрын
Welcome welcome
@wingames7528
@wingames7528 Жыл бұрын
e
@Skyrionn
@Skyrionn Жыл бұрын
First
@gg_slayer_
@gg_slayer_ Жыл бұрын
first... must pin!!
@Skyrionn
@Skyrionn Жыл бұрын
You were second I think! I had to pin my own comment though.
@gg_slayer_
@gg_slayer_ Жыл бұрын
@@Skyrionn ok no problem
@restoredephraimpublication1540
@restoredephraimpublication1540 10 ай бұрын
So in the end it was women who caused the Black Mesa incident ... should have known.
@ChrisMathers3501
@ChrisMathers3501 Жыл бұрын
Not the early 2000s, but actually the late 2000s. I have reason to believe that the Black Mesa Incident took place in the year 2009. Valve used to sell Black Mesa parking passes in the Valve Store. These were dated 2009. All the memos in HL1 and expansions are dated 200X, and those parking passes imply that the facility existed as late as 09, giving us only a single year to work with in terms of dating the Incident. Totally a grasp at straws on my part? Yes. But does anybody have anything else to go on? Not really, no.
@josephleebob3828
@josephleebob3828 Жыл бұрын
the valve store is probably a coincidence
@ChrisMathers3501
@ChrisMathers3501 Жыл бұрын
@@josephleebob3828 I mean...don't get me wrong, this is one of those things where I automatically figure as much...but by that same token, this IS Valve we're talking about here. They make tech demos, not games. So when they DO make games you have to mine the lore for all it's worth. Like pulling teeth out of a stone full of blood, you know?
@josephleebob3828
@josephleebob3828 Жыл бұрын
@@ChrisMathers3501 well still i dont think the store has to do something with lore
@mrwheatthins2413
@mrwheatthins2413 8 ай бұрын
The technology we see in games does not line up with 2009, especially not for high end labs. My guess is 2001-2003. Maybe 2000-2004. I don't see 2005 or later
@thenoobassassin
@thenoobassassin Жыл бұрын
Where is the lore on the G-Man?
@Skyrionn
@Skyrionn Жыл бұрын
He's coming soon!
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