What Happened to Joker?

So many of these "WTF happened to" videos focus on a film that had behind the scenes issues or were catastrophic bombs in theaters and we dissect what went wrong, but every so often we here at Joblo like to examine what went right with a movie. In 2019, a movie seemingly came out of nowhere to become a cultural milestone that not only sparked controversy but also broke records. Sit back and put on a happy face as we figure out just WTF Happened to Todd Phillips' Joker, starring Joaquin Phoenix in his Oscar-winning role!
Joker was a film that no one seemed to want when it was announced, yet two creative forces, completely separate of each other, desired to make a low budget film set in the world of comic books that really took a deep dive into the character. In a world where comic book movies based in continuing universes seem to be starting to grow stale, Warner Brothers along with Todd Phillips and Joaquin Phoenix took a huge risk in presenting a different vision to the world. The results would be one of the biggest films ever made.
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[@ajtaylor8750]

I recently rewatched after 4 years of never coming back around to it, and it's definitely a well crafted drama heavily inspired by the likes of "Taxi Driver." Todd Phillips declining the upfront director's salary in order to bet on himself and get 10% of the film's total gross ($100 million payday) is one of the ballsiest gambles in film history.

[@ahabduennschitz7670]

George Lucas did the same but with a Franchise that wasnt even a Franchise yet lol

[@wet-read]

Well crafted in a technical sense, sure. I think it is vastly overrated and mediocre myself.

[@wet-read]

@Қазақ_Қыят卐قازاق_قيات Joker

[@dasherx1070]

Well we are all entitled to our opinions👍

[@AwesomeBlackDude]

Although Warner Bros.' marketing team certainly played a role in the success of the Joker character. But many like myself have embraced on the The Dark Knight character Heath Ledger's and the film's approach.

[@adamJKpunk]

So Joker 2 isn’t a musical. It is a psychological thriller with a couple of musical numbers.

[@Stumme-40203]

Joker 2 isn’t a musical, you just have schizophrenia.

[@Fluoride_Jones]

+AdamJKPunk Oh, thank God!! When he said it was going to be a musical, I was hoping it would be more so in the sense that "Scott Pilgrim vs. the World" is a musical, than the likes of "Sweeney Todd: The Demon Barber of Fleet Street."

[@danneltheflannel]

We will see if this is the truth lol, with the record of awful movies coming out last and this year so far we will see the path Joker 2 follows.

[@Fluoride_Jones]

@@danneltheflannel Fingers crossed they don't screw this one up. 🤞

[@ThePinkDragon]

i hope so

[@stephentruelove5439]

James Holmes, the Aurora shooter, was not dressed as the Joker, as you say. When he was apprehended, he stated to the authorities that "he was the Joker."

[@vicenzor9699]

Wonder if he's said that to the large dudes who've raped his ass in prison?

[@GamingSaturnMoonManBoy]

I saw this in the theater with my Dad and everyone in the theater including me had an un easy feeling once the movie was done. It didn’t feel like we just watched a movie it felt like we were in Jokers mind

[@NelsonStJames]

That's actually the description of a film that has done an excellent job of a character study.

[@ElMalito187]

There was a sense of panic in the air, everyone in that theater was "okay a deranged psychotic active shooter is going to happen right about NOW......, okay false alarm, because the actual surprise is NOW....., okay things are still quiet, but as I walk to the exit the nut job rears is ugly mug right about NOW....., alright coast is clear. Now we can go home and rest in our bed, hear the popcorn machine in the distance, oh fuck it's happening....., wait no nothing......, let's just go". People were expecting a repeat of the 2012 Aurora, Colorado massacre.

[@richin2123]

I had a similar experience after seeing it on opening day. I live alone, and didn't feel "right" about going home right away. I sat in a local park for an hour or so, just processing the feelings I had, and decompressing.

[@NelsonStJames]

Many people who dislike this film dislike it for reasons that have absolutely nothing to do with the film itself, and when you see a lot of their criticisms, you realize that many of them don’t even know why they dislike it other than they were told to.

[@wet-read]

Yeah, that's what I constantly hear. I agree. But it also scarcely matters; I do dislike it just as a film and think it vastly overrated.

[@aceloco817]

How is someone told to dislike it? Lol. I'm one of the biggest Joker fans & i didn't really like it the 1st time i saw it. Wasn't no Batman, or any other comic characters. They coulda made this film about a joe blow lunatic & people that ain't comic book fans wouldn't know the difference....

[@NelsonStJames]

@@aceloco817 Your stated reason for not liking the film is legit and a comic fan could easily watch the film and see where you were coming from. When you hear people repeating the same things over and over like "the film was made for incels" something that is only subjective opinion that they can't even name a specific scene that gave them that impression, and you quickly realize that they are mimicking stuff they got from their echo chamber, and probably didn't even watch the film. Also bad movies come out all the time and few people even remember them after a month. That you can still find people that out of the blue will start ranting about the Joker and saying what a terrible film it was shows that they dislike it for more than simply thinking it's a bad film. Nobody brings up Steel, WW '84 or Birds of Prey that frequently -- all of which are arguably worse films than The Joker. This film bothers people on some ideological level.

[@positivetakes5592]

​@@wet-readHow is it overrated if most people say it's bad?

[@wet-read]

@@positivetakes5592 Overrated by the majority of people, the lay public.

[@GhostRiderSpiritOfVengeance]

Minor correction at 15:36 The dark knight shooter wasn't dressed as the joker, nor did he ever say "Im the Joker" when he was caught. It is something that every news outlet reported at the time and was later determined to be false. It's sick how news media will sensationalize a tragedy to boost news.

[@kendalllowe7527]

You are correct. I was bummed when i heard him say that. Should have dug alittle deeper on that statement. But it’s all good

[@Cau_No]

Yes, that's becoming a modern legend now. Talk about unreliable narrators …

[@Diggy22]

I lived in the South Bronx when Joker was filmed and released. While the mass of tourists coming to the middle of the hood drove a lot of us nuts, when we went to see that movie on opening weekend, we actually loved seeing so many recognizable neighborhoods where they filmed, from the stairs to the Bedford Park Boulevard stop on the 4 train. It was a great movie-going experience, and Joaquin Phoenix deserved that Oscar. 👍🏽

[@oscarf5433]

I think that the great success of this movie is because it doesn't feel like the DC Joker, it is a fresh version of the Joker and follows no parameters already established, the movie flys on her own wings.

[@Craxin01]

Joker himself in The Killing Joke said, "If I’m going to have a past, I prefer it to be multiple choice!"

[@larrote6467]

tragedy doesn't mean "something bad happened" tragedy means "something bad was inevitable"

[@z-rex6068]

@Got A Surprise 4 You On TeIegram@JoBloOriginal Bot

[@Craxin01]

Well said

[@Markimark151]

Joker is my favorite movie of the 2010s! It should’ve won Best Picture at the Oscars! I watched this movie twice in theaters because it was so relatable to what’s going on NYC! This movie doesn’t even need a sequel, Todd Phillips shouldn’t even make a Joker sequel!

[@trinaq]

Congratulations to Joaquin Phoenix for deservedly scooping up the Best Actor Oscar for his chilling performance as the troubled Arthur Fleck, AKA Joker. I reckon that River would be incredibly proud of his brother. 🃏😁

[@leadsin99er]

I felt Joaquin Phoenix deserved the oscar already for Walk The Line. But guess he was meant to win for The Joker.

[@goldcanyon340.]

Truer words were never spoken.

[@rubytuesdayphoenix]

6:20-6:50 has me picturing Joaquin watching Rocky Horror while thinking about the pretzels he can't eat and weeping while singing along to Sweet Transvestite

[@blocknessmonster18]

Standout writing on this episode! Really enjoyable!

[@jtgd]

Warner Bros lose their minds over a good movie, but calm releasing crap movies

[@thefonzkiss]

You really couldn’t see Romero’s moustache on a 1966 CRT television.

[@Pupeyes]

Interesting that Joker would be the movie to glorify violence after the plethora of revenge films that exist like, Death Wish, John Wick, Peppermint, and on and on… Some people only see what fits their own narrative. Also, superhero movies with ongoing connected universes aren’t seemingly growing stale. That has already happened. I think fans are in denial of that fact

[@bdboricua3128]

Super hero movies still going strong

[@amimim69]

John wick has killed 10 times more people in one movie then mr joker will probably kill in his two movies.

[@bdboricua3128]

@@amimim69 give me the reason why wick kills. Now do joker

[@sparkerfivethousand1374]

One of the best films and also one of my favorite actors in my opinion. The joker was will written well directed and a well performance.

[@ronelleroux8225]

This movie really had the feeling of the comic "one bad day". Which was very interesting. A bad day can either turn you into a hero or a villain.

[@Lanwarder]

While I infinitely appreciate that you didn't go the same way as many youtubers and pretended that John Wayne Gacy "Dressed like a clown to kill his victims", let it be clear that he wasn't a professional clown either. He'd dress as a clown to entertain children during social events and such as he was seen (or at least wanted to be seen) as a pillar of the community to a certain extent.....That photo of First Lady Rosalynn Carter and John Wayne Gacy in 78 didn't happen for no reason. Gacy wanted to be seen as something as the good guy he was not...Just like when he'd invite police officers following him to come inside and have a drink...

[@rumatadestora]

The first movie was a blast. Should have left it at that, though. But of course they needed to film a second movie, since it turned out to be a promising new milking cow. They'll fuk it all up with the second one. What a shame

[@norm-bb3bb]

I have hopes the sequel will be good but I'm worried, the sequel could be a dumpster fire

[@theFRIS]

i wasn’t entertained at all watching it, gotta re-watch to see what i missed

[@tonyr2920]

Forget all the background noise, do things with passion, with honesty, and you’ll find that the hard road is way more rewarding than the easy shortcuts everyone seems to pursue these days! This is the best movie I’ve ever seen!

[@daniellegraves5614]

The shooter in that theater did not dress as the joker he just happened to have his hair dyed he said that he chose that theater because it was a packed theater

[@punklover99]

Did i hear right he had a friend who had dyed hair also since his was red and it was blue

[@FlashTemp]

It was filmed in Newark New Jersey, not New York City

[@StephenSchaal]

Joker reminded me of when I was younger, and movies came out that I was excited to see. It's not that it's a masterpiece, it's just a really good, unique movie, and we don't get that much anymore.

[@wephilips6651]

It’s weird how many people call a film unique which ripped off so many previous films but I guess for a younger audience I can see why they see it as such compared to other films at the time

[@_scabs6669]

Jack Nicholson is the one and only joker. Because he had the joker SMILE. The others had to paint the smile on. Nobody else comes close. The rest are just guys in joker make up. IMO.

[@kentkariuki8321]

That's your opinion

[@jacobfilasky2729]

His smile was awful along with his obviously forced acting. There is yet to be a cannon live action joker

[@kentkariuki8321]

Thats why I've said it's your opinion which I don't agree with

[@jacobfilasky2729]

@@kentkariuki8321 I don’t agree with your Nintendo looking last name. Read a comic

[@kentkariuki8321]

@@jacobfilasky2729 i also don't agree with you you racist idiot

[@TheIgisas]

This is one entertaining review! Gotta love it why am subbed to You sir. I loved him as Joker personally... A little scared of for second movie if it comes out.

[@calebcapson811]

You hope its not all in his head? Hate to break it to you, but that is the only way this makes sense. Also the production team has every intention of this not being the labelled as a definitive origin story, because of the backlash that would follow.

[@rushmore309]

Modern day classic.

[@LoveHandle4890]

A masterpiece that has stood the test of time and always will.

[@joenobody5631]

The Aurora shooter wasn't dressed as the Joker. That's been debunked by the local police. Fact check, guys. Please.

[@brianban110]

great film that got unfair treatment from the media and was portrayed as somethings that it wasn't. For me I was more skeptical that the guy who directed the hangover movies was directing this but the movie is awesome and I'm optimistically looking forward to part 2.

[@TheIgisas]

Absolutely feel this sentiment though

[@amimim69]

That's the funny thing..people are skeptical about anything and everything based on pre conceived notion

[@wet-read]

Yeah, but that is all superficial white noise. It just isn't a good movie, as a whole. That's why I don't like it.

[@RubenAB]

Such an amazing film!! Truly something special. In the theater I was full of anxiety and nervousness it was a wild experience something no other movie in my entire life has been able to make me feel

[@goldcanyon340.]

Truer words were never spoken.

[@abramsullivan7764]

Joker (2019) one of the best movies of 2019 yeah I said it comic book fan boys, and girls.

[@st.anselmsfire3547]

This was a shockingly good movie, but it's not really a Joker origin story so much as a movie about a guy losing his mind and choosing a clown motif. He was nothing like the "Clown Prince of Crime," but he was still pretty cool. The Batman and Gotham elements are incidental at best. Hell, I don't even know who this "Thomas Wayne" guy was supposed to be, but he definitely wasn't the canonical brilliant doctor.

[@sidtucker3660]

I always assumed that it was clear the whole story was some thing that Arthur was telling his therapist in Arkham hospital

[@bdboricua3128]

It wasn’t a joker movie It was a movie called joker

[@ernestoreveres8780]

Joaquin phoenix was born to play this characters , subsequently in the movie the master you can phoenix joker references . After the iconic performance of heath ledger , filling the shoes of the joker is so goddam difficult. But phoenix did a outstanding performances ; but I still believe that if they included Willem dafoe in the new elsewhere joker world it’s gonna work so well , let’s see if the joker 2 fulfill the expectations like the first one , if those who need joker 3 whit Willem dafoe

[@corysantana6171]

I can't believe it's gonna be 5 years since the movie came out! ...I feel like I just saw it last year.

[@princemaverik]

This movie was chilling and dope character study it was a difference between the original dc version and was much more appreciated it’s like it focuses on his mind

[@nokturn882]

Y’all should do a “wtf happened to Jamie Kennedy”.

[@bigb860]

My biggest concern with the upcoming sequel is the expectation that it's going to be a full-on, 100% Joker movie and I have a feeling that is not what we are going to get. Instead, it will bounce back and forth ala Godfather II with present day Arthur aka Joker and the 1950s-80s, exploring EVEN more of his backstory, as a child, growing into an adult. Seeing more of his struggles, socially, physically, and mentally. Honestly, I hope I am dead wrong as I personally, do not really care to see that. Just give us a Joker movie but with lots of fun songs.

[@nadavzilberstein2647]

The one thing that wasn't addressed is the way the lights played a crucial game in understanding how mania dipresia works in the cerebral- neural perspective.

[@Crushbra]

If its a musical in an alternate universe. It woulr be good to see Billy Dee Williams return as Harvey Dent

[@354Entertainment]

Best Joker ever played...

[@anakinchosen]

I look at all the actors who played the joker 🃏 so far and the only 1 who didn’t get it right was Jared Leto,my all time fav is Cesar Romero in the bat 🦇 tv 📺 show.

[@luisvaldes1568]

At 5:23, you mean present day NYC!

[@Fork1]

Jared Leto is currently a cult-leader on his own island and acted more like the Joker off-screen for Suicide Squad than on screen, so I am glad they got him out of the project!

[@DrewTrox]

Apple a day, that was also Christian Bale for the Machinist.

[@djjukeboxhero6491]

I believe the background actors. I was in a todd Phillips production that was filming in an LA nightclub and I can confirm that extras were not treated well....I did background acting for years and that was the only set that served cold box lunches and ordered pizza last minute. Unfortunately it was also a long shoot that lasted from morning to 3am and that's all they served for the whole shoot. It made me wonder if Todd hates extras or if it's the companies he works with.

[@Huspree2011]

I always believed that the only death was Murray. I base this off the dance. Throughout the movie after killing Arthur likes to do his dance. Then after killing Murray, Arthur begins to dance, but it is nothing like his graceful dances before. This is because the prior graceful dances were in Arthur's head, and when Arthur finally felt the courage to actually dance it was awkward and disjointed, and he quickly stops, somewhat annoyed that it was not graceful like he had always imagined. Arthur had been introverted the entire movie, so it fits that he was fantasizing about what he would like to have done in that situation. And the final dance is the dance of an introvert trying to express himself.

[@wcgcapone]

Arthur rapes and murders his neighbor and her daughter.

[@PieterPatrick]

The moral lesson of The Joker... ...Be more nice to another.

[@genea.p8578]

Genius movie. Joaquin Phoenix is amazing.

[@TheIgisas]

Indeed.

[@michaelbuczek1767]

Loved this take on Joker.

[@camaronshoultz6137]

I can’t put into words how much I dislike this movie! An undoubtedly great performance by Phoenix. And maybe the fact that it’s a joker origin story is part of why I hate it. But more then anything else it’s just boring. Aside from 2-3 interesting scenes it’s just mind numbingly boring. And I’m so tired of people saying I just don’t understand it. I do. I just do not like it.

[@wephilips6651]

Whenever people say what you say people who like will be li,e oh well you just don’t get mental illness lol like this film is anyway subtle or new in dealing with that subject matter.

[@klabkebash]

It's Taxi Driver combined with American Psycho, with a comic book background 😎

[@injintu]

Seemingly came out of nowhere? How does a movie called The Joker seemingly come out of nowhere?

[@jtgd]

9:40 lol welcome to Coney Island-Pelham Bay transit!

[@madprophetus]

Todd Phillips should be in charge of the DCEU and no one will ever convince me otherwise.

[@linewalker]

This was the perfect compliment to the Pattison Batman film

[@dencocreations1701]

It became one of the best DC movies ever, thats what happened

[@spookyfingers]

Everyone keeps saying Taxi Driver but isn't this a beat for beat remake of King Of Comedy?

[@zekewalker1350]

Hopefully this doesn't come across as rude or disparaging, I hope you can take this criticism constructively but perhaps you could use more direction in the recording booth to keep the energy flowing and keep your tone even. It feels like during the intro (when highlighting other Joker portrayals) theres this tonal build up that never goes anywhere. Adding a bit of tonal variety between lines might have helped

[@ayushsamaddar4310]

The movie is excellent but not as great as people perceive it to be. Heavily uplifted by the inspiring academy Award winning performance by Joaquin Phoenix. This movie looks like it has Paul schrader written all over it, plus the Scorsese inspired new York, still it takes great mind to incorporate already existing ideas.

[@positivetakes5592]

It was a movie, it came out, it was alright but people like to pretend it was the worst movie ever made even though it basically adapted TKJ

[@gypsydildopunks7083]

A friend of mine's son has schizophrenia. He would laugh until it turned into crying, but still laughing. Very sad, he couldn't stop laughing. Tardive dyskinesia I believe

[@vivianworden]

I hope Gary is in the sequel 😊

[@bigb860]

I actually never thought of that but yeah, agreed!!

[@deusakremosa]

Well written folk 😘

[@jasonl1942]

Jared letos 'cyberpunk' take??! Jared letos joker was a computer jacker and used technology to commit his crimes??!? Why does nobody ever understand what cyberpunk actually means?

[@Cabal-ms3kb]

Was anyone else SEVERELY disappointed upon hearing the sequel will be a MUSICAL? 😒

[@Cimlite]

I'm hoping they don't mean that literally, because that would be... disappointing.

[@rumatadestora]

Yup, me too

[@norm-bb3bb]

It won't be a musical, just a drama with musical elements

[@Cabal-ms3kb]

@@norm-bb3bb It will be a musical. It has been confirmed to be a musical. It will be a musical.

[@norm-bb3bb]

@@Cabal-ms3kb The recent news said a different thing

[@patrickcharles6983]

What they should've done for a sequel to Joker is do a faithful adaptation of Brian Azzarello's Joker. We'd get Phoenix as a fully realized Joker, we'd get other Bat villains and we'd get Batman without having to put focus on Batman(in the book, he's a shadowy figure shown only in silhouett/obscured lighting and we're only meant to hear his voice). Todd Phillips could've made a great film out of that Graphic Novel.

[@TheIgisas]

Interesting 🤔 I kinda see what You mean

[@patrickcharles6983]

​​@@TheIgisas the story is told from the perspective of a henchmen who becomes Joker's #1 guy. So we see how horrifying the Joker is from a henchmen's point of view. We'd also see Batman from the criminals point of view, see why criminals fear him, we never really get that with Batman in film because we're getting see things on Bruce's side& not so much on the other. I just think it would be kinda cool to see Batman through a different lense, plus it wouldn't matter who's playing Batman because of how he's portrayed in that book. All you need is someone who looks intimidating in a Batsuit and someone(different actor)doing the voice.

[@TheIgisas]

@@patrickcharles6983 That would be chaotic though

[@patrickcharles6983]

​@@TheIgisas well, it is a Joker story. Chaotic comes with the territory.

[@anthonygordon9483]

I am pretty sure the movie was not suppose to be a joker movie but a general criminal movie. They decided to make it about joker later after the script was complete. I am surprised Martin Scorsese produced the movie considering he hates comic book films. Its funny he is willing to work on a super villain movie with hardly no CGI. It was basically a Taxi Driver remake but interesting. I kind of thought Robert Deniro being a co actor was a dead give away.

[@jeffreytackett3922]

Imagine standing there for 8 minutes, while people clapped. I mean, it would be nice to be appreciated, but after minute 3, 4, 5 ... come on, man.

[@emonsalt]

Joker wearing John Wayne Gacy make-up

[@micktheman6]

I went to go see it opening night there was a ton of security I wasn’t afraid

[@Hostage811]

Matt Plale (narrator), Are you drunk? or slurring from oxicontin?

[@dkamphaus43]

Robert Deniro getting shot was probably the best part of the movie.

[@theenchiladakid1866]

Cyberpunk joker? Inigo Montoya would like to have a word with you

[@ZEEBRAVERSEent]

the guy who did the dkr shooting did not dress like the joker. why you trying to spreading that lie more?

[@LSPalm]

Joker gets to dance in the bathroom, why the extras can't use it

[@Mayor_Of_Eureka17]

I dont do general meetings either.

[@johnnielurker]

You mean Jared Leto's cringy take on the character 😂

[@mattyboyb523]

The sequel will do 2 billion. Might not even be difficult to do it

[@Wheretheportlandorarealadiesat]

You think that will happen ?

[@mattyboyb523]

@@Wheretheportlandorarealadiesat Yes definitely People r crazy for the joker

[@Wheretheportlandorarealadiesat]

@@mattyboyb523 hahahhah

[@LittleBaldieVanZandt]

Though while I agree this film is great, it really wouldn't be able to exist without Taxi Driver or King of Comedy. For a younger audience this is fantastic but if you've seen Scorsese films, this feels more like a glorified homage to Scorsese.

[@jackroyaltea5034]

Under the new rules for the Oscar’s this film wouldn’t be allowed for consideration.

[@wstine79]

I hear he's getting a new Harley Quinn. She is a real monster with a poker face.

[@NastalgicCLOWN80687]

Joker has an origin when he first showed up in the comics he fail in vat of acid // that’s the real Joker

[@mrhumble2937]

I didnt love it. Maybe because i was expecting something else.

[@SuperZippyzippy]

I would never go watch a pg 13 joker stand alone movie

[@RobotGman]

Rewatched since it first came out, loved it at first but after the second watch I thought it was just mid not the performances but the story

[@BluJae93]

Everyone loved this movie. I liked it. But it’s literally a rip off of cab driver and they had the balls to added Robert De Niro lol

[@Whydontyoupolygraphtest]

How can you pretend that this guy's the real me. This guy is a character I created. Just like the one in suicide squad. They base both on me.

[@YuniorGamboa]

Joker was a good film. Joaquin gave a really good performance but man Ledger was on another level. This movie had some good parts like the dancing on the stairs and the talk show scene.

[@willramirez75]

The aurora shooter was NOT dressed as the joker. He was clad in tactical gear. Stop spreading lies.

[@tomhahnl1927]

Great Movie!

[@theSemiChrist]

Remember how "dangerous" this movie was? The FBI even said to watch out for incel gunmen lmao. The FBI lost the plot long ago.

[@onemorechris]

we can stop giving Jared Leto film work now

[@RoverIAC]

Overrated remake of Taxi Driver.

[@jolfer1334]

What happened to the wtf? This movie isn't that good. I saw it once and dont want to watch it again

[@melvert33]

Just my opinion, great performance from Phoenix but its not a very good film, its empty and a complete rip off of Taxi Driver and The King of Comedy. I think Scorsese only didn't sue because De Niro got a part in it!

[@wephilips6651]

Extremely empty. When I hear people praising this film so much of it is head canon or projection, the audience fills in the emptiness of the movie by assigning stuff to it which simply isn’t in the actual film itself. And yeah it’s bizarre how much people praise it’s originality when it’s a complete rip off, I can only assume it’s because a younger audience never saw the movies it stole from. Tbh I even think phoenix acting whilst good is overrated. It’s like the Oscar bait trope of playing mentally ill people or drastically changing appearance automatically equals great acting.