What Happened To Mabinogi?

[@johnli.notlee]

The fact that people leave but constantly think about Mabinogi or come back to it, really demonstrates how impactful this game was on our lives. I hope it sticks around forever. There are many slow days, but I like to lounge around, run random stuff, talk to random people, change outfits, etc. So many ways to pass time :) I think it's overwhelming when people come back to "beat the game" or speedrun it and then complain. I enjoy taking my time and just doing whatever because I can.

[@DirtyDerg]

"The game has become too bloated and grindy". Could've told you that six years ago when I tried and dropped it. Frankly, people just sorta forget what an online experience is suppose to be about rather than actually actively explore it or enjoy it to any sort of degree.

[@PastCity]

Nowadays, everyone is just AFK. It seems to be such a solo experience everytime I play, even if I'm out looking for friends, everyone is either AFK or just... not ready to get into gameplay. It's like everyone's already end-game, with their only purpose being to AFK for some event so they can get some gachapon ticket. I miss the days when we were a family. Literally.

[@Krumpy]

Find a good guild I joined Felons and we are always doing content and its fun

[@The_RealH3R0]

Can vouch for this, I always see a Felon member running content!

[@PastCity]

@@The_RealH3R0 I'm sure there's definitely a few good guilds and groups out there, I'm just speaking from a short play experience the last time that I tried to re-play mabinogi. I had a much harder time finding active players, when beforehand, even someone who was AFK would eventually respond to your chat messages. Generally, things seem like a ghost town to me, but I hope things have gotten better since then

[@driprappy]

I’ve been around since Generation 6 all the way back in 09, been a giant the whole time. I’m 28 now lol. I come back off and on, and recently I’ve been trying to push to max elemental knight, but im mainly a solo player these days. No guild, barren friends list. A far cry from the days where I used to bard a lot. I hope I can replace the friends I’ve lost with time, and hopefully new faces show on the scene to replace those we’ve lost. But we still remember the memories. Fun trivia: yall remember when windmill used to take your hp?

[@MRCHURR0]

Truly the most unique mmorpg out there with the most freedom in everything especially customization, the amount of fashion is insane and the dye system is something that is never seen in any other game, my friend told me they were happy and excited to hear that FFXIV was getting a second dye slot and I was like... Mabi has 6 now for most outfits lol... I'm hoping the UE update will bring hundreds of thousands to experience this amazing game!

[@skyver3807]

Game isnt dead but man is it hard to get a party for a tech duinn mission on normal difficulty Being eu based doesnt help either Cant stop playing tho Addicting ass game

[@The_RealH3R0]

I wish there was a random daily dungeon like in FF14 to encourage players to run old content :(

[@johnli.notlee]

The issue with running Normal is that there are no real rewards :(

[@thecasuallongsword]

Yeah, normal is like practice mode for hard, and hard people solo. That's power creep.

[@johnli.notlee]

@@The_RealH3R0 I mean, there are the Veteran dungeons

[@galaenitan8223]

As a old player and coming back like last week the game has a lot of problems coming back. #1 problem is how fast you advance in the game. They really need to incorporate the blaanid quest with the story when they finally let you do that you are way too strong at that point. They should've incorporate it together better. Also old mabinogi was pay to play the story. If you didn't drop any money you COULD NOT play the story. This killed a ton of new players. Mabinogi really needs to reconstruct everything.

[@CrimsonRedstone]

I was a beta tester for Mabinogi's europe servers when it came out, I was pretty much ousted from playing the game after the servers closed down, as the US (now "Global") servers were and still are laggy AF for me to the point of the game being unplayable. MabiPro came in a clutch but it just can't get me to feel the initial fun I had with the game which is also feeling very clunky by todays standards. (Also can't even "inherit" my "The Beta Tester" title which was bling points on the EU server). I really wish that their transfer to unreal engine whenever that will happen will revive the game. Either way, Mabinogi and Maplestory will always be my top MMORPGs. at least I have a Nao figurine to remind me of the game from time to time.

[@The_RealH3R0]

Hopefully the launch of Unreal Engine might prompt them to open EU servers! Fingers crossed.

[@iaidobotanist8281]

Honestly, it's just pretty lonely if your old friend group has vanished or no longer plays. I feel distant due to EU times, and being 30 now. I love the game, always have done since it first released in NA (and I had to use a proxy to play, no eu's allowed :')) I do honestly hope the future IS bright for mabinogi though, it would be such a shame in the MMO space to lose it.

[@BJ-jb5zl]

Mabi was such an adventure from the start. As time passed I literally watched the game turn into something totally different, after the combat changes it turned into just spamming the strongest skills, class variety went out the window

[@Jyukenmaster95]

when i fully stopped 8 years ago, my feelings were "there oughta to be more non-Daily mid-game level content that's not soloable" In my early and middle years of mabi, my favorite experiences were built up through lower-power activities like Generation RP dungeons with friends, afk music, activities to help each other research / unlock / craft / rank skills, working towards Royal Alchemy and then helping others, grinding an attainable amount of money to get that item from someone else In my last years of mabi, You join a guild and it's either a Discord VC social guild of people who all know each other way more than they know you, or a hardcore tech-duinn guild that expects you to read guides on content you're not built for, by not having High-Level crafted items, precise enchants/reforges/builds, or just by not having the playstyle conducive towards endgame activities. And as a grownup, some days even doing just the Daily Shadow Missions and Saga missions were monotonous and slow and one-shotty, which ironically felt exhausting. Blannid didn't help, because i felt like i was getting shot into endgame without experiencing most of the midgame.

[@TheBoss42x]

Old Mabinogi so much better

[@PhantasmsMabinogi]

Mabi's definitely had a lifelong history of being niche and unique with no competition to challenge that niche, because no other game has a combat system like this. Unfortunately though, with the end game content, it is HEAVILY reliant on overpowered metas, crazy high pierce, or just getting whatever the game's best tier is that's not the Soluna Blade. I do hope going forward they find a way to change up the meta and stop being so reliant on DPS requirements. Even for me now, it feels like Glenn HM is the only dungeon currently where you not only need high DPS, but reliance on mechanical knowledge as well. Content now is just too easily burstable with Diviner and takes all skill out of the game. Even as an EK, I don't feel like the game is mechanically challenging enough the way old school mabi used to be. Obviously Nexon needs to make their money but the pay to win aspect, alongside the abysmal drop rates of end game gear hurts the game. It doesn't reward the player enough for all the time they sink in. Even with Blaanid, it hurts newer players combat skills because it doesn't teach them how to fend for themselves when they fight things that they can't just kill in a matter of seconds. I'm hoping this changes some day because Mabi's potential honestly has yet to be unlocked.

[@GodOfPlague]

Man I used to play this game. Loved combining class moves and pistol whipping enemies. Maybe once they do the unreal engine update Ill try it again. Im burned out on ESO.

[@LagoonKnight]

I just returned to the game. I tried joining an active guild and was told I couldn't join because I would be left out because of my rebirth level. I was not at the true endgame.

[@angelwater8987]

Why did I stop playing? Gacha. Why did I keep playing? Friends and power levels.

[@The_RealH3R0]

Friends & Power levels are the ultimate motivators for me as well lol

[@hermengarde]

I've started back in 2012 after years of seeing the game on anime MMO lists and turning it down because of how it looked, then one day a friend I was chatting with mentioned how he'd heard about the uniqueness of its combat system. Tired and disillusioned with all the tab-target clones I kept running into, I finally gave it a try and I was immediately blown away. It didn't look amazing, sure, but the charm and attention to detail were unmatched and the detailed textures made it feel lived in, something only Ragnarok Online had managed to do for me until then. Since then I've met many great friends (and even a romantic partner for a couple years who I'm still friends with), I've settled into close-knit guilds and watched them die out, and moved servers before Alexina was finally merged too. It has been a wild ride and one that always brings real tears to my eyes. Even though I also tend to take long breaks or burn out, not once in my heart have I ever wanted to leave for good. I fear losing this game like I fear losing a home. So there is something incredibly heartwarming about seeing its devs work hard to modernize it and even give it an engine upgrade when most others would have moved on and started new projects with their money, time and resources. Not only that but they're being very careful to respect all the little things that give the game its feel and identity, rather than trying to make it look like a different game altogether or pushing out a soulless sequel that dies out before it's even out of beta. I'm so thankful that this game is, to them, not a mere source of cash to discard someday but a world worth preserving and pouring great care into for as long as possible. And I can't wait for Eternity to go live and breathe new life into this dear home of mine.

[@chocobro3198]

Game will always be one of my favorite MMORPGs. Played it daily for a good handful of years.

[@The_RealH3R0]

It just has a special charm that no other MMO can capture.

[@SheepyMcSheeperton]

It turned into a completely different game, one I'm personally not interested in anymore, and an engine upgrade most likely won't change that.

[@johnaythehuman]

Got me in my feels with this one. Great video!

[@The_RealH3R0]

Thank you so much!

[@jarekstorm6331]

I’m at new player, only two months in, and I love Mabinogi. I’m sorry for those who miss their lost friends, but maybe we can make new ones. I hope so. There’s a sweetness and sincerity to this world and I hope people can feel that again, despite the past. I’m going to try to do my best in Mabinogi.

[@The_RealH3R0]

Mabinogi definitely has a bright future ahead!

[@sisuthelastdragon9803]

Hey H3R0 Buddy,Can you Please do a No Commentary Walkthrough of Amber Isle and Please do at Least All Parts of the Amber Isle Walkthrough of 50 Minutes Each

[@Kohu]

I recently got a friend of mine into Mabi after talking about it for a year but being hesitant to really get them on. They remark at a certain charm and uniqueness despite the jank. There is a lot of me giving them the history of things used to be, and how it has shaped the current game. Almost every major thing I get excited about in regards to things being better now had been made in the last 3 years with the current leadership. They are looking forward greatly to Unreal overhauling the visuals (and hopefully some of the jank too), but have enjoyed the start thus far. They cleared chapter 1 in their first 3 days playing ahahahaha so needless to say they're hooked. I've warned them about the gear grind in the endgame being a slog i you don't spend tremendous amounts of money, but having framed the game as a journey like runescape helped ease them into the mindset of how to approach the many systems that have been layered onto the base game. I do hope with Eternity they strip away some of the chores that existed to pad the "endgame" but never or barely revisited to make catchup faster. Looking at renown, Divinity exp, Stardust, etc.

[@Fuudo_123]

To this day mabinogi is still the mmorpg I enjoyed the most with the skill lvl system and all that, i've even been waiting for that mobile version that they showed off before... I miss those days man

[@filipevasconcelos4409]

Hm, It's weird, i don't have many memories as i was growing with mabinogi. Maybe one buddy or so, but i always played solo, but i guess that's why i never sticked to it, although i always play from time to time

[@SenshuRysakami]

I love Mabinogi, and I'm so excited for the big update. If there's a gripe that I have, it's not only that endgame content is really intimidating/hard, but it doesn't feel rewarding per clear. As an example I'd really like to upgrade my sword to a Nightbringer Assault, I'd have to learn Crom Bas and run it no less than 20 times, and that's assuming the required material dropped every time, which I don't think is the case. Otherwise, it's not much of a stretch to say that Mabinogi is a home to me. And even if I weren't actively playing it at the time (Life gets in the way sometimes) I would be devastated if it met an EoS.

[@Meiaixin]

Stopped playing 7 years ago and recently got back to it. I stopped for personal reasons and my original account got lost due to the old login system... Driving me nuts! Started my new account and its fun but lonely... A lot of afks and people rarely talk now. I'm surprised I'm doing things on my own compared to my original account. I can solo almost everything with my new account. I hope Mabi stays strong because Mmorpgs aren't like this anymore. Fighting enemies, pvp, PPE, party dungeons, raids, missions, amazing outfits, life skills (cooking, blacksmithing, Tailor, Carpenter, etc..) and endless events and content. The only thing i hate is the gacha system. The chances get lower and lower in most games nowadays that it forces you to spend money to try again.

[@hyliluna]

just wish i wasn't as alone honestly as a new player

[@The_RealH3R0]

If I'm ever online and you need help send me a message! :)

[@phanykhaman5640]

I had a full active guild that all played throughout the day randomly, felt like a brotherhood. I Watch GOOD NIGHT WORLD on Netflix and just brought back so many memories

[@GregtheGreat191]

The Unreal Engine Update will hopefully bring new and old players back to the game. Though if it's only gonna attract folks who care about graphics it won't be for them. Atleast we don't have the Zerger community since PvP isn't really a thing

[@skaterbloodxx]

I hope Mabi leaves on for our future generations so they can enjoy the goods and bads, but also so we can show them our skills and fashion ^ ^

[@ArcusVernificus]

Gods the feels are real I'm still playing on the Korean server and the Unreal engine really can't come quickly enough

[@drantino]

The updates towards QOL stuff and various things like that has made the game a lot more approchable on many fronts. theres still 1 old and 2 new that they introduced that sadly doesnt make it worth going from midgame to endgame transition, its outright just doesnt feel good. the old one is the erg system, this thing is so obserdly backloaded that in alchs and puppets case of anythng reasonable as main dmg output requires S50. alch specifically increases its water cannon dmg by lieterally over 4x from S45 to S50, with flameburst being a bit different, but is at least 2x since before chain cylinder break point goes from 1 not being fully charge to the other being full charged, that transitions into always being full charged. the tick rate of flameburst is what makes it even stronger at that. i dont mind some damage being locked by the high RNG system of erg, but its all or nothing on any investment with the system currently for far to many skill sets. the 2 new ones that they introduced is a compounding one. the first one is limited tech missions per char, limits arnt bad, but for a MMO enviroment, ive only ever seen it valid on the hardest newest content. but for tech missions, this isnt even the highest tier weapon or armor in the game. it takes more then a month of runs that you can easily cap out in 1 day for each week reset to be able to get enough mats for 1 weapon/armor...on solo. which leads me into the second part, the "Re:Fine" update. this bloody update made all the rare drops(which is its own pool and under normal circumstances only drop once per run regardless of play count) divide the drop rate amung all the players. so the devs plan of being able to craft one of these weapons/armor per month actually took at minimum 4x longer in tech missions case, and was spread across many layers of content like crom bas, our highest tier weapon content. speaking of crom bas, the players actually calculated the actual drop change the refine system was doing and had thousands of actual runs showing that the drop rate for these rare mats got decreased by a full party by 5.2x, so it lieterally takes a entire half a year of limited runs per week content to make 1, only 1 weapon. they have removed this from crom bas...but only crom bas. now if only they would bloody do it with everything else because how unhealthy it is. because of the combination of these 2 new things, it actually accidently forced a solo mind set in all but the hardest content. i cant even go help others with tech missions because once you hit your limit, you cant go in anymore on that char. so i cant even help people properly get up into endgame. this is why i stoped play a few months ago again, they just made tech + just so frustrating.

[@The_RealH3R0]

Honestly you summed it all up pretty good as well!

[@Suku919]

Okay i'm coming back thanks lmaoo

[@acethemartyr2591]

I actually miss the grind of leveling skills and slowly getting stronger XD now that im late game with close to nothing to rank up the game grew stale i would log on only for girg raids and log off,i had like 30k cumulative level and phantasm and vet dungeons still seem so impossible to clear unless you're with a groupi might come back and try out the dark magician arcana tho.. :O

[@theodorsebastian4272]

Morrighan absence from the story!

[@The_RealH3R0]

I miss the queen!

[@devzozo]

Gimping the skill progression was a bad thing, the grind needed to be reduced, but removing enemy strength requirements from skill XP makes progression very boring. Because most of the game is solo now, making player progression fun should be really important. The most difficult part of leveling skills is when you need to buy skill books.

[@phanykhaman5640]

So much memories here

[@XanafiedcatGaming]

Mabinogi isn't as social as it used to be. Players just don't start random conversations with each other anymore. I think it is partly cause of our low player population and partly cause most of the game can be played solo. Hopefully a higher player population after the merge will help a little but we need more content that pushes players to work together. Iria dungeons and Castle dungeons need some type of Veteran dungeon mode to even be relevant again, all dungeons need better drop rates, and we need a dungeon level above Veteran that would encourage players to work together. Part of the problem is our characters can just become to powerful for a lot of content which completely eliminates the need to play with other players.

[@Fierlyt]

You're not wrong, it is definitely a lower bar to entry for most content to the point that solonogi can be achieved with relative ease. Even still, I have random conversations with players in Dunby all the time. I don't think it's quite fair to say that's gone when it's still something I see happen often. The other factor that maybe hasn't been part of the conversation is that a lot of players have started using Discord VC with their guilds or friends, so even if we don't see it those conversations are still happening.

[@ninjakiitty]

What's the name of the song at the end? :o It's not an old story from grandma?

[@The_RealH3R0]

Uhm, I'm not too sure! Let me try and find it out for you

[@Zhuny_FR]

It truly was magical

[@ahank1706]

yeah I played Mabonogi....18 years ago!

[@The_RealH3R0]

Your an old head like me lol.

[@crazytim7alexina489]

When nexom announced mabi unreal they also announced that they were going to keep mabinogi around another 30, 40 even 50 years. Which is insane since no games especially mmos do that. I may not log in like i used too but qhen i do there are still some friends on. We just never really log out mentally do we? Ff14 does a lot of things i wish mab did. Mab does a lot of things i wish ff14 did. Mabi has always really been ahead on ideas when it came to mmos in my opinion. Unpopular opinion i think the auction house actually ruined the game. Belvast use to be a second Dunbarton on alexina. I could gab about the past all day. Anyway amazing video! 7hanks = )

[@MrArlong33]

ah the memories

[@torgo_]

literally never heard of it, looks cool tho

[@H17hunter]

I want to play the game... Well i know this game due played on mobile sea server... And yeah... That mobile sea server already long time end of service... And I can't play current pc due regional stuff --" i wish i know any road to play this game....

[@algomi9280]

Mabinogi is the closes thing to .Hack//

[@rafakiun]

Im just waiting for the unreal engine update to fully come back, big hopes

[@donlokatme]

10/10 right in the feels

[@thecasuallongsword]

the sense of discovery is gone, there are guides and videos on everything now. Also the sense of community is lessened and in some aspects gone. A lot of it has become solo content or reduced party content. Even end game.

[@The_RealH3R0]

I think your right, the feeling of venturing to a new area and exploring it isn't there anymore. Or learning about a crazy new skill and having to grind to get it like Final Hit.

[@hermengarde]

The solo and reduced party content always breaks my heart, I understand that not everyone wants to be social or wait and look for parties but content that scales with party members would be a good middle ground IMO. Mabi is at its best when played with others.

[@Landezvous]

Based Takes

[@The_RealH3R0]

Based Viewer

[@Goranoful]

Based taxes.

[@PickleNipz]

Mabi is 10/10 Best game.

[@jalencleric]

The H3RO returnssss!!!

[@The_RealH3R0]

I've been here! 😂

[@pizza87760]

I played since beta, I quit because of reforges and pets that single-handedly ruined pvp. Mabinogi was always pay-to-win but F2P could stand against the whales if they were skilled enough. That changed with reforges, when a funded player could do 20x more damage than a free one. The pvp scene died with the introduction of pets that did aoe damage when summoned, permanently stun locking everyone. Nexon never gave a shit about pvp and did basically nothing to balance it or give it meaningful rewards. Elf mounted archery zerg was super boring in the guild war. I'd still be playing to this day if pvp was still fun, or if the gap between skill and money spent wasn't a canyon.

[@TheMabiNerd]

Another banger from hero!

[@The_RealH3R0]

Thanks boss 🫡

[@Pluse00]

Yes

[@UnstoppableSmooze]

I think the over reliance on gacha killed the game

[@TangerinePaladin]

my friend shini left and the 500m hair is in rare demand. also the unreal engine update wont happen or the p2w will ruin it in record time

[@TangerinePaladin]

Id also like to mention the worse than miserable drop rates. Dawnblade literally 1 in 1 million chance and ruin tier weapons taking many multiple months or a year. The monetization has improved but its the only way to feel any progress. I will come back... but i need atleast fun drop rates, more social platform with extremely less focus on gear...

[@The_RealH3R0]

Did Shini run the guild Altair? :o

[@TangerinePaladin]

@@The_RealH3R0 yes

[@TangerinePaladin]

I recruited you lol

[@The_RealH3R0]

OHHH HAHAHA

[@WildArmsV]

Ip block

[@The_RealH3R0]

Why were you IP blocked? 👁👄👁

[@sevenupkiet4333]

Hop on a game, make a race for yourself, lose the race, quit. Such mentality. The concept of never catching up with all the no lifer just to trying to race against them when you have a day job and burn out from such thing is funny. Been watching you for awhile. But hearing the sentence "how the hell am i gonna catch up" is like huh? Never once I tried to out run those ppl or the contents after spending 18k hrs grinding my Uni life away on Black desert. Sure I love the game, love to see it improve but if the population start to dwindle due to the developers or publisher making a bad choice. Well it is what it is.

[@The_RealH3R0]

Honestly I don't have this mentality of trying to out race people. This video is from the POV of New players hitting the game and returning players being overwhelmed by everything in the game. The issue itself isn't how much is in Mabinogi but how they used bandaids to fix things and present to new players. The opening of the game is so jarring for new players and they often get lost and give up. With that being said another point of this video is to show how Mabinogi started, was simple and easy for everyone to play, to how they kept adding stuff without streamlining it over the years and finally onto how the new director is actively making QoL changes to help modernized the game so it can bring in people. I truly believe Mabinogi is made to be played over time and not rushed.