What Happened to New Romantics? (PRODUCTION BREAKDOWN)

[@SperosNest]

Hi again everyone, thank you all for suggesting this video, it was a lot of fun to put together! After all of this, I'm curious, which do you think is better? OG or TV? Was there anything I missed and anything you wanted to note? Anything I should cover next? 👀 Share your thoughts and start some discussions in the comments! I hope you all enjoyed this analysis of New Romantics! And like before, NO FIGHTING OR YOU WILL BE SENT TO SWIFTIE JAIL. HAVE FUN!

[@Frostbite8917-fx3ot]

oh you should cover Wonderland or Style

[@el.NoWay.714]

OG

[@user-ck4fm7os1w]

​@Frostbite8917-fx3ot he made Style last year, check it out

[@shar3859]

Woah this was the best Taylor's Version comparison I've seen! All the others were a lot less technical and didn't really *show* the viewer what they were talking about. But with yours, all the examples were so clear and informative.

[@SperosNest]

Thank you so much! This seriously means a ton to me since this video was months in the making for the writing process and creation of visual elements. One of the things I'm most passionate about is sharing details about music and videos with other people, and I wanted to share the details in these songs in a way that people could easily understand and visualize, so I'm really glad that it came across well! I love experiencing new discoveries in music and I'm glad I could share it with you!!

[@NerdyLlama21]

I think comparing the OG and the TV version of Out Of The Woods is also a good video topic. Both versions are produced masterfully, but for some reason I find the TV's sound more epic.

[@MyNameisDC]

One of the best examples of her improving a song with her version 👏

[@blakeisbell9870]

For me the crowd vocal is the thing that murdered the TV

[@thebedrockobserver]

The original AHHHs sound raw, energetic, and full, while the TV's AEHHHs.... It sounds like children screaming 🙃

[@SperosNest]

Haha! As objectively as I tried to make this video, I will say that I personally also enjoyed the crowd vocal AHH's from the original song! It sounds more like a full crowd chanting the hook instead of the more obvious vocal doubles that sound like one person recorded multiple takes in Taylor's Version.

[@Sebastian-z3z]

THAT WHAT I'VE BEEN SAYING FINALLY SOMEONE THINKS THE SAME

[@Waterofintuition222]

THIS

[@shinyy160]

i think somewhere taylor did say she always imagined it being kids yelling it but idk so she made it more how she wanted it

[@ajparker3413]

What I love about this video is that it’s very visual, so entertaining and educational

[@aqsireyrey]

Need you to do this with all the rerecordings

[@ShanilleRose]

I second this

[@SperosNest]

I third this (dear lord, the amount of work I'm about to create for myself 😂)

[@SavouryGalette]

​@@SperosNest Do it for Shake It Off next. While still danceable, the chorus was _much_ less clear, and the drums sounded like they were replaced with a drum machine rather than an actual kit.

[@JohnReySicuan]

We are so invested. Consider her "Wonderland" I've heard lots of changes.

[@anygamer6727]

I personally love the instrumental production in Taylor's version and also Taylor's vocals too my only issue with the new version of the song is those "AHHH," I like more the "AHH"s in original than to the Taylor's version, it really sounds like children's crowd screaming that...

[@anygamer6727]

and because I hated those "ahh" in new version, I remix it on my own... I changed the "AEHH" in taylor's version to the original "AHH"😂

[@dakotalee6990]

I’d love to see what they did different on Out of the Woods! That’s one of the few where I actually prefer the TV to the original.

[@itspricila]

agreed the new one is so rich

[@user-number-1208]

I legit love this video so much! It was so well written and the visuals were SO helpful. New romantics is my favorite song of all time and now I finally understand why I HATED the tv! Thank you!

[@SperosNest]

That makes me really happy to hear, I'm glad this analysis helps! Whether people love or hate the different versions of the song, I really wanted to aim for a video that could help people understand why they felt the way they did about certain elements, and I'm so glad that this helped clarify why things sounded the way they did to you!

[@user-number-1208]

@SperosNest It really does help! Keep up the great work bc this video was just *chefs kiss*

[@joenathanz7474]

There's a lot going on TV's especially Speak Now Album! Waiting for that video 😊

[@luhvlyleah]

tbh i genuinly dont have a problem with it, i think it sounds better

[@CollinNaber6]

Me too I don’t really get the hate to tv

[@wonderingducks6053]

Me too, I'm too dumb to notice differences

[@Yan_8]

Two totally different type of people right on top of this comment

[@MehmetCengiz-xy9mn]

I used to think something about beats in 1989 tracks is missing but now I m in love with TV tracks' beats(especially welcome to New York)

[@kikimi]

i first noticed this issue on red tv and people thought I was crazy, especially the night and day difference of the original IKYWT and WANEGBT to her recordings. anyway, people have different tastes and i just prefer the original one

[@WJSN_officiaI]

especially 22! the mixing on the chorus is so damn bad i still cant stand it three whole years later lmao

[@germossystem]

Really good video. Well explained and well illustrated Thanks!

[@SperosNest]

Absolutely, I'm so glad you enjoyed the video, thank you for watching and supporting! ✌🏼

[@imjakedeason]

YES, I needed someone to say it

[@SpeakNowTaylorSwiftVersion]

Nostalgia is a Mind Trick

[@NerdyLlama21]

Amazing quality content! I feel like there is space for both versions, but I prefer the TV - it sounds more alive, more energetic. When I first heard it, I felt like there was an extra beat. It's weird cus I prefer the TV as a whole, but also your dissected version of the OG.

[@tabithae3679]

Omg I've been Wishing this existed and how no idea you've been making these! Thank you for sharing! ❤

[@SperosNest]

I'm happy to have the opportunity to share it with you all! This video has been in the works for awhile, and it's so nice to see everyone's perspectives and read through the different conversations that people have started after watching through it!

[@gpvelev]

This was illuminating! Please do We're Never Ever Getting Back Together next. Or Trouble - any of the botched RED Max Martin songs

[@ryansmh2550]

Yes!! The we~ee~ in TV is more separated from the main vocal, can’t wait for the breakdown of it

[@TaylerJonhson22]

Your video is so good! Visual effects, comparison between songs and everything else is perfect. You should have more views!!! ❤

[@SperosNest]

Thank you!! The effects were something I spent a lot of time on to make sure people were able to fully visualize something that can be harder to visualize (audio). I'm so happy to hear that you enjoyed the video, thank you for spending some time to watch it!

[@AngelMendez-nd1jl]

PLEASE do wonderland!!!!

[@casper8849]

Original is far better in every aspect from vocals to instrumental components...1989 TV was unfortunately a failure

[@jordynsutton6074]

What mic are you holding at the beginning btw cool vid love ittt

[@DaeCovers]

it looks like the shure sm7b!

[@CarloGojoCruzHalasan]

Can you do Out of the Woods? I honestly believe it is the best re-recording in 1989 for adding some snare in the interludes after each chorus. And the vocal layering at the last chorus is so top tier and more present

[@swiftie_flop]

i prefer the tv because it sounds a lot fuller. however in the tvs it sounds like the instruments are jumbled up and they dont have much individuality, almost like the instrumental is static with a melody. you can really hear what im talking about in this song, 22 (especially when the 2nd verse starts and main synth in the chorus), i knew you were trouble, all you had to do was stay, and how you get the girl.

[@SperosNest]

Great points! There's a chance that some of the melody lines like the vocals could have been added in after the main instrumental was recreated, resulting in that sound you described

[@zachb5396]

Hey man, where are you getting the multi tracks for these? Would love to remix them or analyze them further.

[@isabellebelle4757]

Eu gosto do instrumental antigo e do vocal atual dela, mas em new romantics especificamente eu gosto da versão antiga

[@Charlstam_]

The Taylor's version for me sound more fun and energetic than the og but still loves the og

[@archivesunset4214]

no it doesn't LMAOO the original sounds way better

[@mateuszkalmuk75]

The ine thing ive noticed almost immediately when i hers the TV of this song is that in the beginning of it you can hear some white noise amd mayne a metronome? But im not sure with these things maybe it's not that

[@liam898]

How do you get your hands on the audio broken down? Is it called stems?

[@NateAndrewMUSC]

Can you do I Knew You Were Trouble?? Please for me the mixing sounds unbalanced

[@tslexus1989]

Can you PLEASE do Sparks Fly? I think it's one of the most screwed up re-recordings

[@Sky-ttzn]

New Romantics was one of my favs from 1989, now it isn't (I still don't get used to it..) The og version has a lot more of emotional deliver on Taylor's Vocals, it is more energetic, that's what I love about that song. In Taylor's Version I can't feel the same energy, it's a little more calm, but enough to make a difference. Also, I don't like the crowd in the TV, I feel like children are screaming at me. I know if I listen to it more often I'll get used to it (like Style) but the crow sreams really annoys me. Also, the intro is "low" compared to the orginal and that also takes out points from the "energetic song" I really like the new technique she uses, TV sounds a lot more professional but it took away a lot of energy from my point of view. New Romantics is still a GREAT song and an anthem in any version tho. I'm not expert in music but really understood your video, great explanation and it is so complete, love it!

[@fadeintoview]

You know what, I like new romantics tv more.

[@Carlitoslovesyou]

As somebody who doesn’t understand anything of musical production I can describe it the same way as Style, the originals have more echo and reverb And the Tvs are more polished vocally, or more clear maybe?

[@jenniferbommarito9740]

This is why I buy the og vinyl and just listen to it on that because when I heard New Romantics tv I cried because the chorus was completely ruined

[@quins.puppets1515]

In 1989 taylor’s version i could immediately tell there were more synths and i hated it

[@quins.puppets1515]

there’s really no problem with NR taylor’s version, but i honestly can’t listen to it and this helped but i still don’t know what throws me off

[@alohaisland9999]

While I don't think the Taylor's Version of New Romantics is terrible as I do think the production sounds fuller, it does lack a certain gravitas the original has

[@SperosNest]

I think a lot of the instrumental matches the energy of the vocals in each one for an overall balance, and that gravitas in the original is helped a lot by the lively energy from Taylor Swift's earlier vocals along with a more explosive percussive section and more echoes and spatial audio that were relevant for the high-energy anthems of the 2010's!

[@itspricila]

Can you please do we are never ever and i knew you were trouble

[@w0nd3rstruck]

so we’re just gonna ignore that damn metronome at the beginning? 😭

[@fadeintoview]

Pls do shake it off tv next

[@imjakedeason]

now do this for Blank Space cuz tv instrumental feels so flat and like it's missing some instruments. Also, compare I Know Places cuz that is the best re-recording we got from here ever.

[@loverhouse13]

i think the verses and the bridge for the song is greatly produced but the chorus is tragic 😭😭 still i’m only streaming TV

[@EjNoahe]

I feel like the og is more reversed/muffled and in general have that retro synth feel while the new is burger and harsher and feels more like a modern remaster or remake and looses its vintage touch

[@msdenise1234567]

I don't know what it's called, but the music going 'up' as if on a reverse musical slide, in the chorus, is so cheap on the new version. It annoys me so much, so I prefer the old one. I prefer 22, Style and New Romantics over the Taylor's Versions. But I do love Out Of The Woods TV, bc it's more chaotic, which matches the lyrics. I did gain a new appreciation for Welcome To New York and Blank Space with the rerecordings. So it's kind of a balance act for 1989 TV.

[@beatrizx3159]

I usually love all the rerecordings tayor releases,but for some reason,i can't bring myself to enjoy 1989 tv. Like,i think there were improvements,especially when it comes to her vocals,but in the original,you can just feel the emotion in her voice and the production works really well with the vocals,even if they aren't perfect. In the tv,Taylor sounds much more "robotic",and i think that her voice being so mechanically better actually kinda downgrades the project imo,as oposed to the other taylor's versions,where the technicall improvements she has gone through so far actually contribute to the project

[@ethan1969]

The way you couldn’t notice most of this unless you were doing something like this 😭 idk I just think people are being overdramatic

[@itspricila]

I respect Taylors version endevor but many of the re records do not hit the same production wise and even sometimes the vocals.

[@soaribb32]

I kid you not, at first I thought it was the difference of the verse drums and the chorus drums but it isn't...The drums are just weaker from TV to the OG.

[@lol-os3om]

The og is definitely more emotional imo. So are EVERY other 1989 og version. I don't know much about music, but Jack, I think, couldn't pull off the synth-pop, or the overall pop sound in the whole 1989 album. I couldn't enjoy 1989 tv at all.

[@nymeric5833]

Jack Antonoff didn't produce 1989 TV, Christopher Rowe did

[@KillerHawk0608]

I love taylor and will always support in her re recordings artists ownership of their own work as it is really important but, to me the newer version just feels less emotional and for me its a big reason why I connect with her music. Im also not sure but in the newer version I keep hearing "gulps" compared to the old one. (If you want to compare yourself listen between 0:45 and 0:48, in taylors version you should hear it around 0:46.)

[@SperosNest]

I feel like this is what tends to happen when making recreations that try to mirror the same thing. If Taylor Swift made a "Taylor's Version" which was an acoustic version of New Romantics or a remix or anything in that scope, it would be different enough to be seen as it's own creation which has its own level of quality. Trying to recreate it to match the old version just results in a version that sounds slightly off. It might sound better to some people, or worse to others, but overall, people can tell that it's an imitation, and imitations are always going to suffer somewhat in quality. It's like the Mona Lisa, and if someone repainted the Mona Lisa in their own style, you could get some cool looks like a cartoon version or abstract version. Trying to recreate it like the original typically results in a version that seems familiar but feels off. Great observation with the gulps btw! I didn't notice that, but I'll check it out because that's a great catch!

[@oh.sorry.dont.mind.meeeee]

​@@SperosNestin terms of the Mona Lisa, there are people whose job it is to restore old ancient works of art or architecture to try to bring out its original qualities as much as possible and there are people who do reproductions whose job it is to match something exactly, which forgers do for paintings, and do it well. There's some value there. it would have worked out better if she could have secured the exact same producers, but unfortunately, I don't think that was possible for the 1989 album. Max Martin and Shellback worked on the original but not the remake as far as I know. For brand new fans like me who weren't really listening to any of these songs back then when they came out, the Taylor's versions aren't being compared to anything when I listen really. And because I refused to stream the originals on principal, this is the only way I get to enjoy it, so I'm super pleased that it at least sounds enjoyable to my ears. I'm really glad that she's been successful in this endeavor, hopefully it changes the industry for the better. 🩷 I don't really understand music producing, so this was fascinating to watch. 👍

[@SperosNest]

​@@oh.sorry.dont.mind.meeeee Great point! I actually hadn't heard of that before in terms of the art replication jobs, so that was a cool new thing to learn! There's definitely value in that, and I do think it's a good step forward from a creative rights standpoint. Hopefully it does set a standard for future artists so that they can protect their work the way Taylor has! I'm glad you enjoyed the video!!

[@oidualclaudi0]

You should analyze All too well (original version) vs. all too well (Taylor’s version, 5 minute version), for me, they destroyed that song so much 😢 the 10 minuet version is OK, but the short version is a complete mess.

[@evanbaird4889]

Great analysis I love this video! However, I will not forgive the absolute abomination of the intro. Not only does it lack the emotional pulsation of the original SOMEONE LEFT A DAMN METRONOME ON FOR THE DURATION OF IT. I apologize for being harsh but this is something I just can't live with.

[@jesieisonline467]

please compare old and new All too well (5minver

[@eriklundquest5423]

Wildest dreams sounds so DIFFERENT than the original 😭 lowkey prefer the stolen version plz don’t look me

[@jackluzynski6954]

taylor’s version is terrible. this is why i’m nervous for reputation tv because she’s probably going to ruin my favorite songs. new romantics was my favorite but now it’s not anymore. i’m glad you described some notes as less airy/breathy because i thought the same. that’s what MADE the song but oh well

[@swiftisz.]

reputation tv will probably be the same style as her music now. Be nervous for Debut (Taylor’s Version).

[@alick7825]

Just listen to the original. Taylor said she never intended for the TVs to replace the originals, but it's important for her to own her life's work and have access to it when it comes to performances and licensing. She's already a billionaire, she's already made her point - listen to the originals, especially if the TV was butchered.

[@Sebastian-z3z]

​@@swiftisz.Tbh fearless was good af so i don't think we should worry about debut since she works with the same producers for the tv (prop the reason 1989 tv didn't feel so pop) and most of them are producers for "country" music or that style

[@swiftisz.]

@@Sebastian-z3z Oh btw if you think that I’m making complaints, No; I’m not making complaints lol, to make my comment better, Yes! I agree with you, I’m just saying that of course, she will loose her country voice but better vocals will come.

[@CaitlinDull]

I do like MOST of the Taylor's Versions but I don't like how a lot of the phrases are held longer. It feels unnatural. I do agree that she is trying to sound more "professional" but it shouldn't change the feel. Sometimes, it does.

[@SperosNest]

This is a good point, the timing of vocals can really change the feeling of the song. A long drawn out phrase can sound a lot slower or introspective compared to a shorter phrase which comes off as more energetic and uplifting!

[@lg6esteb544]

She ruined her best song

[@oh.sorry.dont.mind.meeeee]

the old producers wouldn't come back 😢

[@FireRay-e6n]

I always thought New Romantics TV felt rushed and not right compared to the original when it hit so hard and it was so powerful, I definitely prefer the og New Romantics, tv really let me down, it definitely got the wanegbt tv treatment which is objectively not good, anyways awesome breakdown 🫶, can’t wait for more comparisons

[@SperosNest]

If you want to support me, consider checking out Patreon! I just uploaded the recreated samples from this video there for anyone who's curious and I can answer more detailed questions on that platform (but of course, I'll still be responding and answering as much as I can here in the comments!): www.patreon.com/c/LUN02