What happened to Sabrina Voinea's Beam Score in Team final?

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World of Gymnastics

World of Gymnastics

2 ай бұрын

In Team Final Sabrina's D-score was downgraded from 6.5 to 5.5. But why?

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@karyon1007
@karyon1007 2 ай бұрын
Yikes! This is a cery clear example of the importance of having a deep understanding of the code when constructing routines
@luxrose1194
@luxrose1194 2 ай бұрын
Normally, the score is for the routines, not the routines for the score!!! I'm sorry Sabrina lost points. And that instead of gymnastics, they have to be careful how the points are calculated!
@turbojon8117
@turbojon8117 2 ай бұрын
Since they allow LOSO + LOSO to fulfill the acro series CR, they should allow switch leap + switch leap to fulfill the dance series CR and give it the 0.1 CV.
@mrparts
@mrparts 2 ай бұрын
That switch leap 1/2 is so poor in quality: no full split, bent knees, flat feet, poor arm position and under rotated. 😮. However the decision to downgrade the element was ridiculous and an example of throwing the book at a gymnast. Similarly poorly done switch leaps are done all the time and they don’t get downgraded, just clobbered with deductions.
@Zuranthium
@Zuranthium 2 ай бұрын
Her switch 1/2 in the earlier round isn't bad at all, she does get a full split and legs are fully turned 1/2 in the air, with a solid landing. Her upper body is also in line with the split, many people do that wrong. She doesn't get as good of a split in the team final, but it's not the worst, and they need to change the system when it comes to these downgrade scenarios, she clearly did more than a regular switch leap.
@RobeDuarte
@RobeDuarte 2 ай бұрын
That should’ve been contested
@mrparts
@mrparts 2 ай бұрын
Agree. These leaps are badly done but downgrading them was totally absurd.
@coradyne
@coradyne 2 ай бұрын
It was, but the inquiry was declined.
@pedrojorge1912
@pedrojorge1912 2 ай бұрын
Pause at 1:07, we can see that at TF her feet (and low body) were slightly pointing sidewards when she landed on beam. For us at the opposite side is a bit subtle, but for the judges that are on that side it's more evident. Sabrina definitely should get back a backup connection, like a split + wolf, as she used to.
@WanessaAgataNerd-wl9co
@WanessaAgataNerd-wl9co 2 ай бұрын
Eu amo a ginástica da Romênia mas é óbvio que os elementos da Sabrina tem erros de execução nas aberturas que deveriam ser de 180 graus tanto na trave quanto no solo, a técnica dela, que também é mãe dela, deveria trabalhar um pouco mais isso ao invés de focar tanto em dificuldade
@syrilwayne
@syrilwayne 2 ай бұрын
To me, there seems to be no difference in her routines. Probably because im not a judge.
@leykimayri
@leykimayri 2 ай бұрын
She needs to first half turn on air and then do the split. In team final she starts splitting before finished the half turn.
@Zuranthium
@Zuranthium 2 ай бұрын
@@leykimayri No she doesn't, her legs are fully turned 1/2 and in split position at that point. Pause the video and look closely.
@jodavitow
@jodavitow 2 ай бұрын
Those judges were doing too much. Downgrading that is a bit of a stretch
@AaronSKZ
@AaronSKZ 2 ай бұрын
I understand the downgrade here but not crediting the leap series is a bit ridiculous. You can complete the same acro skill connected and receive acro series credit. So yeah, she wouldn’t be able to count the second switch leap in her difficulty value but she still performed the leap series. But that’s what the code says so what can you do
@fishtail1129
@fishtail1129 2 ай бұрын
She needs a sissone + wolf jump as a backup dance series.
@cauret8640
@cauret8640 2 ай бұрын
This does not account for the fact that se only did a tour jete half, not a tour jete full... which would also lose her 0.1 on her D score? Does she not still get the 0.1 series bonus because you are allowed to repeat skills for that one?
@coradyne
@coradyne 2 ай бұрын
I thought the same, but apparently the tour jete full was never credited in the previous days either, so in the TF she just went for a half one to be sure. Also, the tour jete is a different element than the one showed in this video, though they look very similar.
@cauret8640
@cauret8640 2 ай бұрын
@@coradyne I did not realize it was never credited. A few people did clarify that it was not the source of the repetition, but I thought it was still causing some impact due to the downgrade.
@_padfoot
@_padfoot 2 ай бұрын
@@cauret8640 Well it was causing the impact of her beam D score being 6.5 instead of an intended 6.6, but that's all.
@robson_gomes_hoeppner
@robson_gomes_hoeppner 2 ай бұрын
Train more?
@louisepatterton2898
@louisepatterton2898 2 ай бұрын
one full point is harsh.
@amakasan2083
@amakasan2083 2 ай бұрын
This is not specific to get.. but I dunno how coaches of the last 2 decades just ignore feet and knees. Being able to do a 180° split leap should be standard for a gymnast. With straight legs and pointed toes. Even on beam. But 95% of gymnast can't do it. Which is just shocking to me.
@Mhochul
@Mhochul 2 ай бұрын
The downgrade was accurate, although I'm surprised they don't downgrade to a Johnson (switch leap 1/4), but that's probably because that skill needs to finish in cross position. Harsh, but accurate.
@pedrojorge1912
@pedrojorge1912 2 ай бұрын
Switch half is a cross split element, Johnson is a straddle element (side split), they're not of the same type. Also, the Code only recognises half turns, and states that a switch 1/2 must be devalued to a switch.
@mrparts
@mrparts 2 ай бұрын
@@pedrojorge1912it’s silly. These leaps are ugly executed and deserved to be clobbered with deductions, but the downgrade is silly.
@balancebeam
@balancebeam 2 ай бұрын
They only downgrade switch halves to a Johnson if it passes through a straddle or middle split instead of cross split
@Zuranthium
@Zuranthium 2 ай бұрын
The downgrade isn't accurate at all, she is fully turned 1/2 in the air.
@pedrojorge1912
@pedrojorge1912 2 ай бұрын
@@Zuranthium she inquiried and it was reviewed and confirmed by the Superior Jury, using IRCOS, so...
@arboreea1312
@arboreea1312 2 ай бұрын
Si ea nu stia ca nu trebuie sa repete elementul?!
@coradyne
@coradyne 2 ай бұрын
elementul a fost retrogradat, nu repetat. Prin retrogradare, a ajuns sa fie considerat similar cu prima saritura din serie (cea simpla, fara nicio intoarcere) si atunci a fost ca si cand a repetat elementul.
@andrastoica9660
@andrastoica9660 2 ай бұрын
Până acum nu a existat niciodată , să se retrogradeze cloș cu 180, există acest lucruri la clos la cap sau cu 360 . Deja noul cod o să în penibil.
@alexandrucostin8356
@alexandrucostin8356 2 ай бұрын
@@andrastoica9660 Ba da.
@dr.osborne7510
@dr.osborne7510 2 ай бұрын
Absurd.
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