Evolution | Women's Gymnastics 1936-2021

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Vanessa's Fanedits

Күн бұрын

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@inluminatiomea9889
@inluminatiomea9889 Ай бұрын
Korbut of 1972 is perfection - athleticism and grace combined.
@DaisyLee1963
@DaisyLee1963 Ай бұрын
Something about her personality came out in her routines, too. She was truly one of the greats.
@franceskronenwett3539
@franceskronenwett3539 Ай бұрын
She was like a little pixie. Apart from being a brilliant little gymnast she won the hearts of everyone with her charm and smile.
@samiraBenz1
@samiraBenz1 22 күн бұрын
@@DaisyLee1963 Simply the great.
@dnhacademic4535
@dnhacademic4535 Ай бұрын
That 1972 bars routine was amazing!
@meh_im_a_sheep6018
@meh_im_a_sheep6018 Ай бұрын
There are a bunch of amazing routines in 1972. But the danger was so high in some moves, resulting in death of paralysis, that they had to change the rules
@kellyoleary4156
@kellyoleary4156 Ай бұрын
Olga Korbut. One of the best gymnasts of all time. She’d wipe the floor with this year’s Olympians.
@MC-jv9ed
@MC-jv9ed Ай бұрын
​@@kellyoleary4156I agree. Olga is simply fascinating to watch. If you notice, they show her in balance beam, uneven bars, and floor. That's how amazing she was. I don't even watch them today because they make today's gymnastics all about one person, it's not even a TEAM sport anymore. A simple Google search shows my point. It's so sad.
@MaTeTris
@MaTeTris Ай бұрын
1972 was the best year for everything. I am truly impressed. It was the perfect mix of artistic stuff and gymnastics. To be honest, I fail to see the artistic side in today's gymnastics. It is just difficult stuff to do, technical skill, kind of boring.
@MaTeTris
@MaTeTris Ай бұрын
And by the way, the body of the gymnasts looked more, say, natural.
@quisnessness
@quisnessness 2 ай бұрын
In modern gymnastics it feels like the difficulty matters more than execution so we see more awkward looking or messy routines. If execution mattered more than difficulty it might be more visually appealing with fewer wobbles and step outs and pauses to focus between elements as athletes wouldn't push themselves to do acrobatics they couldn't do perfectly. But instead it's more about pushing the boundaries and developing physical strength. It's still an amazing sport and I'm in awe of the power of today's gymnasts but it feels like they've taken the "artistic" out of "artistic gymnastics".
@robertvirnig638
@robertvirnig638 2 ай бұрын
I agree that the balance between execution and difficulty needs to be adjusted. As it is Simone can do insanely difficult routines that she never executes cleanly. She often makes massive blunders and still easily gets the highest score. If the execution was more highly valued she would have to dial back her acrobatics a bit and we would get a more beautiful routine albeit less extreme. This is an overcorrection of the 10 point system where difficulty didn't matter as long as certain required elements were done and provided no incentive for more impressive stunts.
@alinemartins4362
@alinemartins4362 2 ай бұрын
It still have the artistic side. Modern gymnastics it is way more for women now, not kids
@gaethawley7320
@gaethawley7320 2 ай бұрын
The
@cindylw5
@cindylw5 2 ай бұрын
Thank you for this compilation
@magkal8690
@magkal8690 Ай бұрын
They should change " arhtistic" with " acrobatic"...
@motheroftwo5551
@motheroftwo5551 Ай бұрын
I miss seeing the beauty of gymnastics from the 1960's and 1970's. Someone, please, bring this back.
@peternole5083
@peternole5083 Ай бұрын
You mean when all the women were forced to be thin and had eating disorders?
@mopnem
@mopnem Ай бұрын
If yr old commenting on ytube more power to you. If yr not, stop being silly. The majority of us want more difficulty power & precision. Nowadays there’s multiple sources of dance for “beauty” which I assume u mean
@yuriesaa1299
@yuriesaa1299 Ай бұрын
The 80s-90s for me... 😢
@wolfie7051
@wolfie7051 Ай бұрын
Most of what they did is banned...
@mariemaouada3021
@mariemaouada3021 Ай бұрын
Época de la guerra fría, se competía por algo más que medallas, se competía también por un sistema...
@juliecurran9884
@juliecurran9884 Ай бұрын
Korbut was so graceful and fluid on the beam.Just beautiful to watch❤❤❤
@helenf.7221
@helenf.7221 2 ай бұрын
The 1965 beam routine is gorgeous. She’s so talented
@ioioioioio265
@ioioioioio265 2 ай бұрын
Vero.
@terrycarver1255
@terrycarver1255 Ай бұрын
I don’t think so. I found it boring and slow but it’s my opinion. I prefer today’s balance beam performances. It’s my opinion.
@helenf.7221
@helenf.7221 Ай бұрын
@@terrycarver1255 yes they are definitely more exciting now
@jeniferallan6693
@jeniferallan6693 Ай бұрын
Olga korbet was a wow to watch, so graceful 😊
@kellyoleary4156
@kellyoleary4156 Ай бұрын
Olga Korbut (1972) would absolutely wipe the floor with the gymnasts at this year’s Olympics. She flies! So light and effortless, no heavy stomping or wobbles. Her feet are always perfectly placed. Olga and Nadia Comaneci are the greatest of all time in my opinion.
@shyredwall
@shyredwall Ай бұрын
Different equipment the floor they use today may feel weird to Olga and Nadia today’s floor has more springs and bounce. Different times different scoring and equipment (technology)
@roslynpittoni5475
@roslynpittoni5475 Ай бұрын
​@@shyredwallbut what they could have done with the equipment of today. We will never know but it is nice to imagine.
@briafx
@briafx Ай бұрын
😂 yeah ok
@Mrs_SBIV
@Mrs_SBIV Ай бұрын
😂😂😂
@catyserrano2851
@catyserrano2851 22 күн бұрын
Yo creo Olga merecia los primeros 10
@GothicFlowerZ
@GothicFlowerZ Ай бұрын
I did gymnastics in the early 2000s, we weren’t a big club and we still focused on the old school way of gymnastics, execution over difficultly. All the children went to go to ballet lessons and incorporated ballet steps into the routine in time to the music. Most of the smaller clubs still had the old vaults too and the floor was just hard mats put down with no spring whatsoever. Just watching the Olympic artistic gymnastics today in some ways it’s like watching a different sport. The tumbles are much bigger/more showy, with dance steps just to link between the different moves and elements without just walking. It is the same in the beam, I appreciate the skill required and it’s still fantastic to watch, I know I never would’ve been able to those massive acrobatic elements they do now, but there is a special beauty in a perfectly done backwards walkover that eclipses the huge acrobatic elements for me. I know some people will say, if you want to watch dancing, go watch a dance, and modern dance these days actually combines a lot of acrobatic gymnastics moves, but without the execution that gymnastics is judged by, hence why it is unique and different. Dancing was and still should be an integral aspect of gymnastics routines, not just a way to get from A to B without any thought or rhythm.
@godblessamerica9356
@godblessamerica9356 Ай бұрын
I’m so glad to hear that there are still some that value musicality and rhythm in gymnastics. The same is true in figure skating. They’ve become nothing (we;;, not “nothing,” they’re incredible athletes to be sure, but-) nothing but acrobats stringing together impossible incredible feats on skates, but with zero attention to the music. Now Kim Yu-na, did you ever watch her skating routines?? You’d appreciate her! She is true gold and so far beyond anyone else, because her technical skill so far surpasses that her ballet training and natural musicality float through. THAT is what makes her the queen of the ice.
@Bronco541
@Bronco541 Ай бұрын
Ironically that makes the older routines look sexier.
@irisnorris8768
@irisnorris8768 Ай бұрын
​, I agree.
@vai280194
@vai280194 Ай бұрын
Ah I completely agree it is so true!!
@Laura-kl7vi
@Laura-kl7vi Ай бұрын
Interesting post! I dislike the lack of rhythm on the floor exercises especially. Some highly decorated gymnasts, today, don't even move to the music. Movements can even feel perfunctory. (phoning it in, as if there's no focus on it). That wobbly wolf turn they do for difficulty points looks horrible.
@Caretasdemarmol
@Caretasdemarmol Ай бұрын
Korbut 1972 will always be my gymnastics goddess. She was a creator and in my view the first 10.
@SR-wo3fh
@SR-wo3fh Ай бұрын
The performances before the 2000 were far more graceful and enjoyable to watch than the ones after. Less acrobatic jumps resulted in movements more controlled and neat
@Amani-ff1zp
@Amani-ff1zp Ай бұрын
Nah before 2000 was boring same old movements and had alot of biases masked under “grace”. The sport evolved to its true meaning😊
@curiouser-and-curiouser
@curiouser-and-curiouser Ай бұрын
@@Amani-ff1zp Evolved to its true meaning? Ffs 🤦‍♀
@godblessamerica9356
@godblessamerica9356 Ай бұрын
@@Amani-ff1zp “biases”? I think grace- style, elegance, rhythm, musicality- knows no color, ahem, if that’s what you’re referring to. Wow. What a racist.
@Amani-ff1zp
@Amani-ff1zp Ай бұрын
​@@godblessamerica9356 U completely misunderstood what I meant. I mean unlike today, the past gymnastics were more prone biases from judges since it had more subjective elements to it than todays. The sport nowadays leans more to the definition of gymnastics. If your are not satisfied with it, go watch ballet to satisfy you 'artsy' desires
@godblessamerica9356
@godblessamerica9356 Ай бұрын
@@Amani-ff1zp Why are u dissing artistry? And ballet? I get what you meant by “biases” now, sort of as ur word choice is poor, due to the subjective nature of judging such, and often judges prejudged their fave, (and you can still have that now!) but u still come off as pathetically narrow-minded n ignorant.
@valentinabenivegna2765
@valentinabenivegna2765 2 ай бұрын
I love the concept of this video and the tidbits of information you've added but skipping the '80s (and '90s) does a great disservice to the whole idea. The '80s especially is the most innovative, creative and fun decade to watch! There's a huge difference between the gymnastics of the '70s and of the '80s. They still had artistry, form and beautiful coreophraphies on floor and beam but they also had big skills on all events, some of which are now banned because they're too dangerous. The vault was forever changed by Yurchenko, on bars they had so many incredibly new skills that are still used today (the Shaposhnikova for example) on top of beautifully weird mounts and dismounts, on floor they had back to back tumbling, Silivas did a double double for the first time, and the coreos were always so fun to watch. They had so much originality that is now almost completely lost. You can't have a video on the evolution of gymnastics without the '80s.
@magkal8690
@magkal8690 Ай бұрын
Agree with you. Specially at the floor, in the 80's, some gymnast managed to do double vaults without being " helped" by the floor itself...
@carollesokouri9306
@carollesokouri9306 Ай бұрын
4:20
@BriannaBanana1
@BriannaBanana1 Ай бұрын
I’m gonna have to look up some ‘80s gymnastics vids now. (I was born in ‘91.)
@angiec1960too
@angiec1960too Ай бұрын
While I agree with your comments about how awesome gymnastics were during the 1970s-1990s, I don't think this video cared a hoot about individuals through the years. Instead, it seemed to have a very narrow focus showing general changes through the decades. Some were subtle, others blatent. And it's ok to have a narrow focus, especially when you don't want to create a 692-hour video! Because that's what it would take to show the progression of the sport and all the people involved and on and on. Another thought is that perhaps the filmmaker might have only been able to get film from certain eras to use in hiss video. I would think networks own their film, and can't see why they wouldn't allow it to be used, but you never know. Anyway, it would be great if the filmaker made another compare-contrast video featuring JUST the 1970s-1990s era. That would be so cool to watch. He could make it into a series! It'd sure watch it.
@AmityAlpha
@AmityAlpha Ай бұрын
@@angiec1960too Yes, I agree! It's only a short video, impossible to show every development and every significant gymnast. It could be an hour longer and someone would still be disappointed that their favorite or someone important from their country wasn't featured. So many amazing gymnasts over the years!
@KatieLHall-fy1hw
@KatieLHall-fy1hw 2 ай бұрын
The 60s was lovely to watch, but my fav goes to my girl Olga Korbut in the 70s! She was wonderful!!
@sciencewins8798
@sciencewins8798 Ай бұрын
Yes, Olga Korbut is still the Queen.
@Dirty_Squirrell
@Dirty_Squirrell Ай бұрын
Top gymnast, in my opinion. Nadia Comeneci is my second favorite.
@АлинаПлюснина-е9ь
@АлинаПлюснина-е9ь Ай бұрын
Да она легенда
@mylegacymovie
@mylegacymovie Ай бұрын
It’s true Olga Korbut was a global phenomenon her grace transcended nations, cultures and ethnicity ❤️
@romystumpy1197
@romystumpy1197 Ай бұрын
There was ludmilla touresheva, and Nellie kim,they were good, and shaposhnikova
@luxurylifela2068
@luxurylifela2068 2 ай бұрын
This is so interesting. It almost feels like two different sports. I know nothing about gymnastics and don’t really have the terminology to describe it. All I can say is the 60 and 70s gymnasts were so flexible and elegant. They really had style and grace. I can see in the 2000s where the gymnasts seem to really combine the two. By the 2020s, their athletic skill is amazing. I always wondered, having only seen modern gymnastics, why they bother with what I see as the “dance” elements because it usually looks so robotic and ridiculous on these athletes. The music is usually irrelevant too because it could be any song because the movements don’t look timed to it at all. Now it makes sense that those elements are a holdover from when gymnastics looked very different. I’m torn on what to think. I truly respect the athleticism and power of today’s gymnasts but I love how beautiful the old style gymnasts look performing their routines as well. They’re actually combining dance elements meaningfully with acrobatic skills. I guess if you’re into the beauty side, there’s rhythmic gymnastics but part of me would like to see there be something in the middle that combines artistry along with athletics, and then a form more like men’s that would cut out all of the dancing stuff and let the woman just compete. I think there are some great gymnasts today that would shine if they didn’t have to add some of those dance elements. They don’t look good doing it and it takes away from their skill. We also have some gymnasts that are just so graceful and flowy that lack the power of some of the top gymnasts but as an untrained eye, their routines actually look better and more put together to me. It would be nice if each group had a place to shine.
@RealityCheckGurl
@RealityCheckGurl Ай бұрын
Couldn't agree more; you captured everything i was thinking. I recently heard a retired semi-pro gymnast friend depreciate Simone's performance this year in favor of Suni Lee's. She mentioned all of the above regarding the graceful, artistic "ballet" components of past gymnastic routines, but also recognized Simone for the powerhouse that she is (she just prefers the look of the former better). I agree it would be nice if there could be two separate events where the graceful, ballet-like routines return while saving the power gymnastic competition for those are built best to succeed there without any frills. Agreed, both talents should shine.
@bonnieb8084
@bonnieb8084 Ай бұрын
College gymnastics is much more enjoyable to watch for this reason specifically
@georgeb.1567
@georgeb.1567 Ай бұрын
They do dance elements just because its compulsory. They look so forced.
@kimberleymyles4130
@kimberleymyles4130 Ай бұрын
AGREED!!!❤
@kaitourobin840
@kaitourobin840 Ай бұрын
They can call it the technical gymnastics. So there would be three events. Technical Gymnastics, Rhythmic Gymnastics, and Artistic Gymnastics.
@Kristenm28
@Kristenm28 2 ай бұрын
1972 was my favorite to watch.
@sallyhay3369
@sallyhay3369 2 ай бұрын
The amazing skills of Olga Korbut. I loved watching her - most especially on the asymmetric bars - she was incredible!
@dariapoklemba2150
@dariapoklemba2150 2 ай бұрын
​@@sallyhay3369my 69.yo sister still has her 1972 olga korbut posters in her workout room jn her house. She works out to Olga's music routines.
@Котикиилелики
@Котикиилелики Ай бұрын
@@sallyhay3369она тогда была влюблена в тренера, поэтому сильно мотивирована
@Muzikman127
@Muzikman127 Ай бұрын
@@sallyhay3369 the '72 balance beam was something really special too
@nancyvictor3989
@nancyvictor3989 Ай бұрын
Nothing compares to the 1988
@puckrabbers1612
@puckrabbers1612 Ай бұрын
Nadia and Olga were super elegant. No hard feelings towards Simone Biles, but for me Nadia and Olga will always be the very very best.😊
@evelynrelativo8620
@evelynrelativo8620 Ай бұрын
Grace, adorability, aura, skills, artistry... I'm all for old school Olympics gymnastics.
@Amani-ff1zp
@Amani-ff1zp Ай бұрын
If you showed people from the olga and nadia era todays gymnastics, they would probably be more amazed and more excited to watch it rather than watch the same moves over and over again. Sorry something called competition exists nowadays😂 and filters out the biases
@jeniferallan6693
@jeniferallan6693 Ай бұрын
Totally agree. Biles is an amazing Acrobat, but she definitely does not have the feminine grace of Olga and Nadia
@SJF-zv2kq
@SJF-zv2kq Ай бұрын
Different gymnastics, now focused on difficulty, acrobacy, strength, not artistry as before. It is not that today's gymnasts are not graceful or "femenine". It is only that they are not asked to focus on that.
@margui6224
@margui6224 Ай бұрын
@@jeniferallan6693Biles is a tiny bodybuilder with no grace. Saw videos of Nadia and Olga and they were amazing.
@Jjangbunbun
@Jjangbunbun Ай бұрын
the sixties and seventies routines are just beautiful bring back the artistry of gymnastics
@janinewetzler5037
@janinewetzler5037 Ай бұрын
The bars in 1936 was just elegant and stunning to me. The control of the slow, deliberate holds was an incredible feat of all body strength to me which, I guess, is exactly what the routine was suppose to show!!
@danamania150
@danamania150 Ай бұрын
Putting a positive comment down here. Thank you for the effort you put into finding the clips, editing them, captioning them, and uploading the video. I loved it 😊
@Imjane-wr6tx
@Imjane-wr6tx Ай бұрын
I agree. Whomever put this video together, I thank them.
@Floraa152
@Floraa152 Ай бұрын
I completely agree! This was a really fun video to watch!
@rsw68
@rsw68 Ай бұрын
This is what I miss, the smooth elegance and lyrical gymnastic performances. I wish they would return to pretty flowing movements that are mesmerising to watch. Today, these look more dangerous and are so fast after pauses that it's like a collection of moves.
@PoppyPostsVideos
@PoppyPostsVideos Ай бұрын
How can they judge that though? The dance moves are pretty subjective... It's nice to have some dance elements, it wouldn't be good without them but of course they look dangerous, they can't win without difficulty or be that interesting without difficulty.
@caryrobinson2
@caryrobinson2 Ай бұрын
The 1965 beam was so graceful
@PatouetPastis
@PatouetPastis Ай бұрын
On a tendance à oublier a quel point Olga Korbut a complétement révolutionné la discipline.... Aujourd'hui a chaque fois que je regarde ses prestations je tremble tellement les risques qu'elle prenait étaient hallucinants .... Des mouvements ont porté son nom, certains sont aujourd'hui interdits et a juste titre... Mais son nom est beaucoup moins reconnu que Nadia Comaneci donc c'est super de l'avoir mise elle a l'honneur plutôt que Nadia 👍
@АлинаПлюснина-е9ь
@АлинаПлюснина-е9ь Ай бұрын
Да, Ольга Корбут - легенда гимнастики👍
@samiraBenz1
@samiraBenz1 22 күн бұрын
Seuls les ignorants ne connaissent pas Kurbut qui était bien meilleure que Comaneci, mais les USA ont mis Comaneci devant la scène pour détruire la domination soviétique.
@duckideva
@duckideva Ай бұрын
This is so awesome. After watching the 2024 Olympians, who have clearly decided that physics has no place in gymnastics, as those women are matrix-breaking masters of space and time, I was trying to explain how much gymnastics has changed. This is a wonderful compilation. I hope you got really good marks!
@lisawaller7620
@lisawaller7620 Ай бұрын
Why on earth wasn't Nadia on 76 in this video?
@wendyleeconnelly2939
@wendyleeconnelly2939 Ай бұрын
​@@lisawaller7620what?
@syncmaster915n
@syncmaster915n Ай бұрын
@@wendyleeconnelly2939 Nadia Comaneci, the first female gymnast to get perfect 10.
@__s.o.s__01
@__s.o.s__01 Ай бұрын
Какие же эстетически прекрасные выступления 1965 и 1972 годов! Это советская школа? Мне кажется -да. Великолепно! ❤❤❤
@cookiebun95
@cookiebun95 Ай бұрын
Would have been nice if you'd named all the gymnasts featured. I recognized Olga Korbut and the current crew. Who was the girl from 1965?
@fioncam
@fioncam Ай бұрын
That’s Olga Korbut in 1972. She was wonderful, so much more lyrical than today’s powerpacks.
@terrymize5888
@terrymize5888 Ай бұрын
And the uneven bars routine--still amazing 52 years later!
@АлинаПлюснина-е9ь
@АлинаПлюснина-е9ь Ай бұрын
Согласна, она - легенда
@kristinaanderson8488
@kristinaanderson8488 Ай бұрын
She was my favorite of all time.. I was a six year old Polish girl who looked just like her, down to the pigtails, so I LOVED watch her, and she was Soo good so bendy, so fearless! They made some of her moves illegal they were so dangerous 😮
@angiec1960too
@angiec1960too Ай бұрын
@@kristinaanderson8488- It was her smile. I was 11 while watching her and after every routine, she'd do that gymnast pose and her smile would light up her face. It was inspiring to watch someone do something so difficult, yet she made it look easy!
@nunyawheeler4262
@nunyawheeler4262 Ай бұрын
I prefer the athleticism of today.
@ljohnson8785
@ljohnson8785 Ай бұрын
I love the older videos & seeing how routines & athletes have evolved over time. The uneven bars always blow me away.
@romyv6532
@romyv6532 Ай бұрын
Olga Korbut so graceful and beautiful to watch! Each to their own but personally I'm not nterested in displays of brute strength. I used to enjoy watching gymnastics back in the day, not anymore.
@ms.n4878
@ms.n4878 Ай бұрын
I loved watching Olga too, but no one would watch her today. Possibly the sport would be eliminated if gymnasts still performed this way.
@krapoutchik1
@krapoutchik1 Ай бұрын
Je suis entièrement d'accord avec vous
@giselajuan9981
@giselajuan9981 Ай бұрын
Nadia la chica de 14 años,que conquistó,las olimpiadas del 76, y olga increible ejecusiones
@shuellenn
@shuellenn Ай бұрын
Owwwww 70’s was just a dream to watch ❤❤❤❤
@brittneyakabeezus260
@brittneyakabeezus260 Ай бұрын
I, too studied the art of gymnastics. I studied /practiced at Olga Korbit’s gym in which my specialty is the balance beam. The bars were my hardest to compete in. 4:00
@MukdaBoonsunee
@MukdaBoonsunee 11 күн бұрын
OMG SAME! My weakness is Bar and my Strength is Beam❤❤🎉🎉🎉
@DEIDREROG
@DEIDREROG 2 ай бұрын
I can tell by the comments that people would love for you to do a longer video and cover more years, as well as please do give us the names of the people who you include. I found this to be fascinating and I love the Irish music you used.
@heidibarrett6400
@heidibarrett6400 Ай бұрын
The music is beautiful! ❤
@tomcooper6108
@tomcooper6108 Ай бұрын
I prefer the old way of continuous motion. The pauses are distracting.
@AmityAlpha
@AmityAlpha Ай бұрын
Lovely video, thank you for sharing! I think Olga Korbut will always be my favorite.
@KrysP125
@KrysP125 Ай бұрын
This is a wonderful depiction of the evolution of not only women's gymnastics but also the apparatus. Thank you 😊
@АлинаПлюснина-е9ь
@АлинаПлюснина-е9ь Ай бұрын
Да, кстати, тоже заметила
@yrien982
@yrien982 Ай бұрын
i like it slowly like in 1965 to 1972, because its elegant to watch they are more comfortable and more safe to the athlete...
@godblessamerica9356
@godblessamerica9356 Ай бұрын
For sure… no one comprehends what strength slow control requires! A metaphor for other aspects of life, too.
@nandorbl
@nandorbl Ай бұрын
Interesting to see the passage of eras and their adaptation. Before girls were like ballerinas, today to do what they do are like Amazons.
@PoppyPostsVideos
@PoppyPostsVideos Ай бұрын
As an actual ballet dancer, these are two different things. Ballet is more subjective therefore it is not considered so much a sport but gymnastics is. Only difficulty and execution can actually be judged objectively. If you want more grace, watch ballet. If you want power, watch gymnastics.
@godblessamerica9356
@godblessamerica9356 Ай бұрын
@@PoppyPostsVideos these older videos show the glory that used to be… And if you ever watched figure skating… Kim Yu-na … the Queen of the Ice, gold-medalist athlete…the Margot Fonteyn of ice skating. You see what ice skating (and gymnastics) *should* look like- if we still valued art and grace and beauty as we ought… as much as we value athletic, strength, tricks and acrobatics. I can’t stomach watching the rest of them anymore. And now I see it in gymnastics.
@idkhi9028
@idkhi9028 6 ай бұрын
I wish connections on beam were flowy like in the 60s more often, at least for the dance steps. I feel like it's all very robotic and blocky even on floors dance steps 😢 Like can we get more flowy steps and connections and that? For example the floor video from 65, the dancing is actual dancing not just some hand and arm movements that are super robotic and don't express much like I see VERY often (not always but probably the large majority of routines I see)
@VanessasFanedits
@VanessasFanedits 5 ай бұрын
That were my thoughts too. But I guess I understand why that changed because the skills are so much harder you can't just get up on the beam and do them all, you need a certain preparing for it moment, which gives you that pause ... But yes I actually liked watching the older beams videos more than today's.
@Vermontist1
@Vermontist1 4 ай бұрын
It changed because Compulsories are gone, so the coaches don't even bother to have their athletes take dance class.
@rg1whiteywins598
@rg1whiteywins598 2 ай бұрын
With you on that one.
@alinemartins4362
@alinemartins4362 2 ай бұрын
I don't agree with you. Back then were more like just ballet and we can see that in others places. Nowadays it's not robotic, it's more interesting and fun. In the past gymnastics were girls vibe, now it's for women!!
@briseboy
@briseboy 2 ай бұрын
First decade of 2000s was ok. When male muscle appeared in the top US female, it had become unwatchable. Those of us familiar with decades of women in all sports + body building never looked like that, it was clear that at least microdosing with anabolic steroids had become involved. Who knows? Perhaps the PEDs also affect brains sufficiently to eliminate even the desire for flowing from move to move.
@MariaAnne-k3k
@MariaAnne-k3k Ай бұрын
1972- OMG O.O She's a Legend!
@whimsygrove9971
@whimsygrove9971 Ай бұрын
Wow the 1960’s one could’ve been a warm-up for the Olympic gymnasts now!
@CarolinaFlorezCoaching
@CarolinaFlorezCoaching Ай бұрын
yes, but if you read the captions, it isn't that it's easier but there's more and less value on different elements, plus shifts for safety and execution.
@katmajic
@katmajic Ай бұрын
i especially appreciated your commentary, it was interesting that some of it was originally military-oriented.
@silvanaabarcarborrego6757
@silvanaabarcarborrego6757 2 ай бұрын
Pra mim Olga Korbut sempre será a melhor
@mariamihaelaiamandi9159
@mariamihaelaiamandi9159 Ай бұрын
Between 1972 and 2000 there were no competitions? It was the PEAK of ELEGANCE in gymnastics!
@sailis1809
@sailis1809 Ай бұрын
Cant quite make it out is thst Anastasia Koleshnikova on the 2000 beam video? And who is the 1965 beam gymnast can anyone tell me?
@sciencewins8798
@sciencewins8798 Ай бұрын
Why didn't you show Nadia Comaneci at the uneven bars??, It was ground breaking and she got the highest points ever.
@laurenmeltzer7159
@laurenmeltzer7159 29 күн бұрын
@@TamaraKanethat wasn’t her.
@snowygirl131
@snowygirl131 Ай бұрын
Thank you so much for making this video! As i watch the 2024 olympics, I am making comparisons to earlier eras and the "young pups" don't understand. And, as another person commented, the 80's really did have a nice balance between artistry and acrobatics.
@grgapitic1240
@grgapitic1240 Ай бұрын
Bravo Olga👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼🎉🎉🎉🎉!!!!!
@flaviacanti5049
@flaviacanti5049 Ай бұрын
Antes, o equilíbrio, a elasticidade e a graciosidade eram os principais! Como no ballet! Hoje, a rapidez na execução, parece ser o primordial
@catcollector6195
@catcollector6195 Ай бұрын
Lord of the Dance! Haven't heard this in ages! Great video, thank you.
@anneiden9946
@anneiden9946 2 ай бұрын
GYMNASTICS BACK IN THE 70'S WAS MORE GRACEFUL AND MORE BEAUTIFUL.
@kathrynboseman5249
@kathrynboseman5249 2 ай бұрын
It was also harder to evaluate and vulnerable to personal bias by judges...both intentional and intentional.
@aae1972
@aae1972 2 ай бұрын
And boring. Sorry, but Simone is vastly more impressive than Nadia.
@albaluciabezerracavalcante654
@albaluciabezerracavalcante654 2 ай бұрын
​@@aae1972SIMONE FORÇA BRUTA E FLEXIBILIDADE.
@desireewilliams4462
@desireewilliams4462 Ай бұрын
@@aae1972 Amen. It's like watching ballet on a beam and a dance show on floor
@dulcetovar3449
@dulcetovar3449 Ай бұрын
​@@aae1972 No, Simone parece robot sin gracia, sin delicadeza, sin sutileza, perdón pero parece que quisiera romper los aparatos o el piso de tanta fuerza. Lo siento se ve grotesca.
@tomorrocat
@tomorrocat 2 ай бұрын
I love watching old style beam and bar!!!
@aleciabocage2824
@aleciabocage2824 Ай бұрын
Из всех больше всего понравилась девочка из 72 года: талант, грация, просто идеал
@zov888
@zov888 Ай бұрын
Конечно, она наша русская Ольга Корбут😂
@georginamedinareyes3261
@georginamedinareyes3261 4 ай бұрын
Las mejores escuelas son y serán la escuela Rusa y Rumana. Ahora ya es mas acrobacia y músculos. Se ha perdido la elegancia, plasticidad y el ballet.
@janysmahoney1271
@janysmahoney1271 2 ай бұрын
The hardest discipline; Nadia Cominech was wonderfully talented an naturally gifted an her seemingless musicality, rhythm and flow was near unmatched unless by the Korbuts, Kims etc Todays Artists really need t do ' expressive dance' more instead of just seemingly endless flip-flopping f the majority of their routines
@ClaireG1331
@ClaireG1331 Ай бұрын
I agre, Nadia was a senasation on all 4 areas, inexplicable how she does not get a mention So Please put her centre stage with Olga Korbut who between them made women's gymnastics a serious competitive sport
@janysmahoney1271
@janysmahoney1271 Ай бұрын
What do u think of Nellie Kim?
@ange5673
@ange5673 Ай бұрын
When did the beam change from being 8cm wide to 10 cm?
@Heatherleigh1414
@Heatherleigh1414 2 ай бұрын
HOW AMAZING WOULD IT BE to see our gymnasts today perform the routines from the beginning times..???!!!💜
@TenaciousSLG
@TenaciousSLG Ай бұрын
That would be a great idea--a "Star Gymnast Retro Tour" where today's greatest gymnast perform the exact same medal-winning routines of the past, particularly those in the 70s, which required incredible flexibility and so much grace and elegance. It would really be fascinating! I'd go!
@lindanussbaum-richman4338
@lindanussbaum-richman4338 Ай бұрын
So long as they were judged exactly the same way.. it would be very interesting!
@magkal8690
@magkal8690 Ай бұрын
@@lindanussbaum-richman4338 There is a video where three floor routines of the gymnasts's from the 80's are judged according to nowadays rules...And, guess what, the score from nowadays is very close to the score they got backthen...
@gulutaalan8845
@gulutaalan8845 2 ай бұрын
Interesting how NONE of the famous Romanian girls, despite having given the name to at least a third of the figures, was considered representative for this collection.
@magkal8690
@magkal8690 Ай бұрын
At least for the year 2000 they should have picked one of the Romanian girls, as they were back then at the top of the gymnasts...( and, at least, Amanar and Milosovici gave their names to some elements...)
@butleryuuto
@butleryuuto Ай бұрын
In fairness, the description says it was a school project for their German class so it seems to have a primary focus on German athletes :)
@tamar8750
@tamar8750 Ай бұрын
Помним и любим нашу великую землячку Ольгу Корбут
@Squawk24
@Squawk24 2 ай бұрын
Cutting out entire decades misses a bunch of changes. For a retrospective, that's an odd choice.
@riodeja2933
@riodeja2933 Ай бұрын
In the earlier years, gymnastics was simple, slightly complex and oh so beautiful😍
@SoulfulVeg
@SoulfulVeg Ай бұрын
It's interesting to see how the advancements in materials technology spurred the complexity of the routines.
@michaelbush9603
@michaelbush9603 Ай бұрын
One thing I see is that the old school Routines were more interesting. Like they had more style. We maybe lost that for more complexity. They were like perfect. But one would argue we could do them perfect too now. But still I see a graceful dunk here. Versus a complex less gorgeous one!!! It's still about looks.
@lindanussbaum-richman4338
@lindanussbaum-richman4338 Ай бұрын
Olga was fabulous, I love her presentation, grace and dance skills - she makes the muscle-bound power gymnasts of today look very untidy in execution. I hate the way today’s gymnasts wave their arms about too.. Olga used her arms & hands beautifully. I admire the power and bravery of the acrobatic skills today.. What a shame Nadia Comanec’s performance on the beam in 1976 was left out.. I remember watching that and like Olga before her, that routine was an absolute game-changer..
@musclemanawesomeness5550
@musclemanawesomeness5550 Ай бұрын
The olympics has become so dark now. Now every team looks like an inner city youth rally.
@laurenmeltzer7159
@laurenmeltzer7159 29 күн бұрын
@@musclemanawesomeness5550umm, eww.
@taniavv
@taniavv Ай бұрын
Amazing. Humans have fantastic bodies. Thank you for compiling this very interesting video
@tudormiller887
@tudormiller887 Ай бұрын
With all the media attention on Simone Biles during every Olympics gymnastics event. Does anyone know what exactly happened to Eastern European gymnasts specifically Romanian gymnasts ? 🤔👩🏅🇷🇴
@VanessasFanedits
@VanessasFanedits Ай бұрын
Or the Phillipines as well - well, they weren't in the finals but they did AMAZING in qualifications. After 60yrs they had 3 women gymnasts to compete at the olympics again
@elizabethlen9784
@elizabethlen9784 Ай бұрын
Yes, training and strength have changed gymnastics a lot over the years, but no one would be able to do half the moves today without the huge changes in the apparatus. Most notable is the incredibly bouncy floor. So bouncy that the gymnast actually bounces up from her bum to a standing position in the video. I'm sure the bouncy floor was intended for shock absorption to protect gymnasts, but the result is moves otherwise impossible. I think it's a bit ridiculous. Same thing with all the springs on vault takeoffs and on the vault itself. Most of the "artistic" dance moves on the floor and beam today look like high-speed hand flapping and body gyrations. Surely that can be improved. And I hate the big gaps between moves, especially on the floor. Its just tumble run from one corner to the next, reset, tumble run, reset, etc. At least in figure skating, the artistic element is still scored and the music and choreography are still key, even with huge advancements in technical moves and requirements.
@VanessasFanedits
@VanessasFanedits Ай бұрын
I love your comparison to figureskating, as I was a competitive iceskater myself and now doing gymnastics. That's why I prefer those old gymnastics videos :)
@peggybuetow1026
@peggybuetow1026 Ай бұрын
Turn the music off!
@suefrasik8188
@suefrasik8188 11 күн бұрын
Right! The music is awful.
@ramirodelagarma6884
@ramirodelagarma6884 2 ай бұрын
Me parece extraño mostrar la evolución de la gimnasia y no tener imágenes de Nadia Comăneci.
@magkal8690
@magkal8690 Ай бұрын
To me, too...but what's even stranger is that for 2000 they chosed some other gymnasts instead the Romanians, who were so innovative and at their top back then...
@marialuisagtzmibienestar6653
@marialuisagtzmibienestar6653 Ай бұрын
Totalmente de acuerdo! Para mi sin Vera Caslavska y Nadia Comaneci no esta bien esta evolución
@wendyleeconnelly2939
@wendyleeconnelly2939 Ай бұрын
The music is annoying and doesn't help
@gr.olivka
@gr.olivka Ай бұрын
Mute.
@damali-karlawhittaker6462
@damali-karlawhittaker6462 Ай бұрын
Wow!!! The lady in 1936's the uneven bars routine was tougher.😮😮😮😮
@dianareypova
@dianareypova Ай бұрын
ВОТ ТАКАЯ ДОЛЖНА БЫТЬ ГИМНАСТИКА,ОНА НАСТОЯЩАЯ!
@Amani-ff1zp
@Amani-ff1zp Ай бұрын
If you showed people from the olga and nadia era todays gymnastics, they would probably be more amazed and more excited to watch it rather than watch the same moves over and over again. Sorry something called competition exists nowadays😂 and filters out the biases
@laurasosa6610
@laurasosa6610 Ай бұрын
Veo que a lo largo de los años no solo se mejoró tecnina si no tambien entrenamientos y alimentacion, el cuerpo de cada una de ellas si notan es distinto! Es increíble como el deporte crece cada año
@jaykay1053
@jaykay1053 Ай бұрын
I wish we had more footage from the earlier games. But this is excellent!
@melanietevoortwis6073
@melanietevoortwis6073 Ай бұрын
I love the gymnasrics of
@mariamihaelaiamandi9159
@mariamihaelaiamandi9159 Ай бұрын
Between 1972 and 2000 ,there were no competitions? It was the peak of elegance in gymnastics!
@jj-if6it
@jj-if6it 2 ай бұрын
It's so funny watching the original vaults. They literally just did a jump and pose haha
@merriemisfit8406
@merriemisfit8406 Ай бұрын
At least none of them did what I did once. I was just practicing a simple forward handspring flip over the horse, but didn't get quite enough oomph on the takeoff. Instead of flipping over, I stalled out in a handstand on the horse, and was stuck that way laughing at myself. I finally kicked my feet enough to complete the flip, but by that point it looked more like a tree falling over. Ridiculous.
@varoonnone7159
@varoonnone7159 Ай бұрын
They were pioneers which is impressive by itself
@thepinkyprincesspoetc.a.5767
@thepinkyprincesspoetc.a.5767 2 күн бұрын
Korbut was the true goat 🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐of my generation, watching it in 1972 as an 11-year-old girl I was so amazed by her so she will always be number one to me and I began following gymnastics because it was just so beautiful and now as I just finished watching the years Olympics, something is definitely missing and I learned more in your short video today. Thank you for explaining everything not just how showing how everything changed but spelling it out and telling us. I really appreciate that. I hope that the true artistry in gymnastics isn’t gone forever so that we don’t have to just see muscle building high acrobatics when those that watched years ago know how truly beautiful the sport of gymnastics can be.❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
@freudjung6848
@freudjung6848 Ай бұрын
Hey ....where is years from 1972 to 2000 ? Romaninan gymnastics make a revolution in style and acrobation exercise...! Gymnastics is more than a beam...!
@mariannsimms5644
@mariannsimms5644 Ай бұрын
To me, no one will ever match Olga Korbut. The moves were insanely difficult with the way the apparatus and floor were at the time. Nothing super bouncy so you had to do what could be done. Her gracefulness and ability were unmatched. There are some clips of Olga's I wish would have been included here that were incredible. Those who are not familiar with her will not see her remarkable ability and think she was only capable of doing what is shown here. No offence to what is shown here...but what she did on the beam and the uneven parallel bars is beyond incredible, and I encourage those not familiar with her to look them up. I also am not fond of all the artistry gone, being replaced by technical merit. It's not beautiful to watch anymore in my opinion -- it's all mechanical robotical -- not graceful ballet artistry combined with technical ability. Same goes for figure skating -- no artistry anymore...just who can do a quadruple jump. Sadly, gone are the days of Olga, Ludmilla, and Evgeni Plushenko. Altho Yuzuru Hanyu (ice skating) still possesses artistry and technical difficulty...many are phasing it out, which is sad.
@Spnlgrl1985
@Spnlgrl1985 Ай бұрын
Watching Nadia perform the beam in 1976 was eye opening. Notice there really weren't any balance checks. Olga in '72 as well. Yes it definitely has changed but not all of it for the better. The size of the gymnasts nowadays is so muscular it's crazy to even try to compare.
@sadclown444
@sadclown444 Ай бұрын
Back then, it was beautiful, artistic, dance-life, graceful, and elegant. Now it's fast and powerful and very robotic.
@Amani-ff1zp
@Amani-ff1zp Ай бұрын
Back then it was also boring and very prone to biases😮
@TheONLYgoinnutz
@TheONLYgoinnutz Ай бұрын
I remember they compulsory rounds. All having the same routines/skills and thw floor had the same music. They were able to individualize while doing the same moves competitor after competitor. Maybe if they brought them back, but untelevised, we could see the extra fluidity we saw in the days of old. Then again, they ARE the days of old and the changes are forever.
@borzova.a
@borzova.a Ай бұрын
Выступление на бревне 1965 завораживает. Красота, грация. Ольга Корбут - потрясающе. Легенда. Современные брусья тоже хороши 👍 А вот современный ковер нет.
@emeraldcoastgardensfl7323
@emeraldcoastgardensfl7323 2 ай бұрын
Loved the whole presentation and choice of music. Excellent collection and narrative 💯⭐
@terrycarver1255
@terrycarver1255 Ай бұрын
I love modern gymnastics better than the past. It is about the show of difficulty and prowess. The dominance of execution belongs to the past. Difficulty brings out the best in athletes. This is my opinion.
@RachelWhite-bs7oz
@RachelWhite-bs7oz Ай бұрын
What's the benefit in the difficulty level of a move if you can't execute it? It's like saying doing more complex math problems poorly is better than doing slightly less complex ones perfectly. This was a big problem on Simone Biles' individual floor exercise routine. She got silver because the difficulty level started out high, but she landed FAR out of bounds not once , but TWO TIMES, which made it look sloppy, and I actually think allowing for too much of this leads to sloppiness within the sport. The gymnast who got bronze actually had a better looking and precise performance. S It takes great strength, focus, and muscular control to execute a move as well as humanly possible. Power is all well and good, but it must be controlled, like Mary Lou Retton did. Same goes for the performances on beam. Our ladies need to improve their agility and execution. And I personally don't care for the excessive musculature and lack of grace. Like others have said, there's no flow on the floor, just set-up for the next set of acrobatics, the music is superfluous.
@jacobmiller2663
@jacobmiller2663 22 күн бұрын
@@RachelWhite-bs7ozwhat’s the benefit of a sport if it doesn’t push the athletes. You old heads always want to hate on the girls who don’t dance pretty and have high tumbling and say their not perfect. But what about the ones who dance pretty but have low level 10 tumbling, they are not perfect either. Or that impressive really. And Simone also hurt her calf which is why she also messed up on the floor. But Simone won floor last year, she just so happened to not be as consistent on her passes on that day like last year. We saw Simone score a 15 on floor at All around in Paris.
@flaviabastoscheidyartes6054
@flaviabastoscheidyartes6054 Ай бұрын
Nossa... Parece que eu gostei mais dos antigos 😮😮❤
@elenatrinci
@elenatrinci Ай бұрын
Non sono un esperto di ginnastica ma direi che tutto il lato artistico e la precisione della performance si è persa lasciando spazio all'acrobatica. Venendo dalla danza non posso che amare le Ginnaste degli anni passati. Forse lo sport è ora che cambi nome 😅
@kamint2258
@kamint2258 2 ай бұрын
コルブトの段違い平行棒は今見ても凄い!!😮 バイルスの床は超高速で、見る者を圧倒!! ちなみに、コマネチがいない😅 シリバス、シシュノワ、ボギンスカヤ、オノディ、リューキンもいない😂
@heidibarrett6400
@heidibarrett6400 Ай бұрын
I love to watch Olga Korbut on bars. She was phenomenal!!! 😮
@TaurusWitch29
@TaurusWitch29 2 ай бұрын
The waving arms all jerkily on beam always killed me 😂 And the floor, hardly anyone ever had movements to the music that flowed together, like back in the 90s before and after, era. It was choppy and didnt go with a beat or flow. Performance definitely lost value. Tumbling is awesome, but just moving arms and spinning around does not a gymnast make lol
@BegoñaPaneaDoblado
@BegoñaPaneaDoblado Ай бұрын
Very interesting, thank you for sharing
@personahistoria
@personahistoria Ай бұрын
GIMNASIA ARTÍSTICA?.....mejor ponganle ACROBACIA. ... pues ahora se parece más a lo que presentan en cuakquier CIRCO....GIMNASIA ARTÍSTICA...en los 70's con Korbut o Nadia Comensci....eso si era ARTÍSTICO
@vasilikos12
@vasilikos12 Ай бұрын
In the past it looked more like an art and less like a competition. Much more impressive
@devonvergiels5185
@devonvergiels5185 Ай бұрын
Very cool videos, also LOVED the music!!!!!
@VanessasFanedits
@VanessasFanedits Ай бұрын
thanks! music choices are always hard :)
@sylviadrees3761
@sylviadrees3761 2 ай бұрын
Where is Nadja Comaneci?
@beafranco7603
@beafranco7603 2 ай бұрын
AGREED👍!! Nadia was the GREATEST of them all!!
@minjariihimaa9476
@minjariihimaa9476 Ай бұрын
This was such an interesting video! I feel like gymnastics today is much more interesting to watch! It is so amazing what women can do if given the opportunity. The older routines especially floor, vault and beam are something almost anyone could do but now Im just in awe of the athletes talent🤩
@theuntunedpianist3088
@theuntunedpianist3088 Ай бұрын
I like watching 40s-60s gymnastics best personally especially uneven bars
@StrawberryShortcake12335
@StrawberryShortcake12335 Ай бұрын
Excellent point about the hand guards! Thank you for such a beautiful video!
@Вова_Анна
@Вова_Анна 4 ай бұрын
Прекрасный ролик! Спасибо!!!👍❤️
@elenafisenko3636
@elenafisenko3636 Ай бұрын
Корбут никто не переплюнул! Легенда!!! 🤩
@kimhartmann9317
@kimhartmann9317 Ай бұрын
I miss Nadia Comaneci!
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