What Happened to the Adelaide Crows - AFL

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Jagger Skilbeck

Jagger Skilbeck

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@mrw5744
@mrw5744 2 жыл бұрын
Great video Jagger! As a Crows supporter it was pretty hard watching the club go through all those awful years. As if the death of Walsh in 2015 (and Dean Baily in 2014) wasn't emotionally damaging enough on the players. It feels like the accumulation of those things, the loss of a GF and then the camp finally tipped the club over. In the pursuit of greatness, the crows failed to do good...
@outlawrip-offartist4161
@outlawrip-offartist4161 2 жыл бұрын
I tipped the crows in 2017 to win the premiership, and I look like a genius, until Richmond happen.
@ReaperspearX
@ReaperspearX 2 жыл бұрын
I go for Richmond and it took me a real long time to accept the fact it actually happened, I'm just so used to the Tigers being a laughing stock it's so weird to see them win not just one premiership, but three.
@outlawrip-offartist4161
@outlawrip-offartist4161 2 жыл бұрын
@@ReaperspearX I understand I go for Brisbane, and by god going for Brisbane is like being on a rollercoaster.
@hoch2824
@hoch2824 2 жыл бұрын
@@outlawrip-offartist4161 I’m a bulldog supporter, we’re good for a couple of years and shit for the next 5-6
@bunglegamingmusic1784
@bunglegamingmusic1784 2 жыл бұрын
@@outlawrip-offartist4161 I’m an Essendon fan. Enough said.
@JC4.72
@JC4.72 Жыл бұрын
@@bunglegamingmusic1784I’m a Carlton fan born in the 2000s Enough said immediately.
@MrAGame
@MrAGame 2 жыл бұрын
Can’t wait for part 2. I think a lot of player exodus can be attributed to other factors, such as players wanting more security with longer contracts that weren’t given and others wanting to go home, but it is true that the past few years have been particularly rough. Having said that… Go Crom forever. ✊🏼
@David-nb3ex
@David-nb3ex 2 жыл бұрын
You're delusional
@jaggerskilbeck
@jaggerskilbeck 2 жыл бұрын
Go Crom
@levand3673
@levand3673 2 жыл бұрын
You mean the crows?
@MrAGame
@MrAGame 2 жыл бұрын
@@levand3673 Go Crom.
@OrchidEleven
@OrchidEleven 2 жыл бұрын
i'll explain the "crom" thing for those who have no idea. so the crows official twitter account tweeted some shit and accidentally said "go crom". the crows fans leapt on this in the most artificial, cringeworthy way, and tried to make it a "meme", but it's just so misguided and awful that everyone just shakes their head at it
@samhedditch1060
@samhedditch1060 2 жыл бұрын
I really like your content Jagger ; it's a good objective look at deeper AFL footy history and gives a fresh insight into things not explored by mainstream media and fox sports. Keep it up !
@Bubba__Sawyer
@Bubba__Sawyer 2 жыл бұрын
Stellar work as usual mate. I'm amazed this channel hasn't aught on with more folks yet.
@dimenitalarcher250
@dimenitalarcher250 2 жыл бұрын
I'm still so heartbroken over what has happened to my crows since the grand final it's been so so so frustrating seeing a team that was once so strong now where they are currently
@lukechill
@lukechill 2 жыл бұрын
no matter how much i hear about this camp i still think its been used as a scapegoat, i guess we'll never know unless we were there. nice video
@aussiedamo1579
@aussiedamo1579 2 жыл бұрын
My favourite Adelaide crows team was Neil Craig’s Crows they might not be a powerhouse but was a strong steam
@JohnSmith-gc3kj
@JohnSmith-gc3kj 2 жыл бұрын
05/06 were just as good if not better than 17
@alistairdimmick2886
@alistairdimmick2886 4 ай бұрын
Great team of the bird dynasty​@@JohnSmith-gc3kj
@stalinmao14
@stalinmao14 2 жыл бұрын
Fantastic video jagger. As a crom fan its been a really tough few years, ever since half time in late september. Why the crows played their worse match of the season in their most important match in almost 20 years still baffles me to this day. looking forward to part 2
@Brandon-vp2re
@Brandon-vp2re 2 жыл бұрын
You are a blessing to the AFL community
@Weather-Report
@Weather-Report 2 жыл бұрын
A blessing wouldn't be someone that posts lies and misleading videos. That is actually against KZbins terms of service.
@Weather-Report
@Weather-Report 2 жыл бұрын
@Confessions Of A Movie Freak what?
@harryruffin1548
@harryruffin1548 2 жыл бұрын
Please keep making these videos, they are so amazing.
@christianwhite2192
@christianwhite2192 2 жыл бұрын
So happy you've uploaded again
@alexmurrayholmes
@alexmurrayholmes 2 жыл бұрын
I love this content - please keep it up with more AFL stories
@MickSchwager-gu5wp
@MickSchwager-gu5wp 9 ай бұрын
Hi
@cameronpeachey2117
@cameronpeachey2117 2 жыл бұрын
Incredible Jagger, wish you made more of these
@lachnev
@lachnev 2 жыл бұрын
These videos about the footy are rare, and to come across yours is a treat
@mynameisgeoff2025
@mynameisgeoff2025 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome video can't wait for part 2. Yeah that really is such a massive exodus.
@bossleonie7658
@bossleonie7658 2 жыл бұрын
I only ever heard the tip of the iceberg of what happened (the Richmond song). This is nuts 😐. Thanks for the upload. Real eye opener
@LrdIrving
@LrdIrving 2 жыл бұрын
i was one of the few people i knew supporting the crows in 2017 GF, sad when they didn’t win
@avarma6313
@avarma6313 2 жыл бұрын
i feel like the only reason they lost was that the grand final was in melbourne
@nitrowrldd4795
@nitrowrldd4795 2 жыл бұрын
@@avarma6313 what ? you dont lose by 8 goals simply because of the oval youre playing on
@avarma6313
@avarma6313 2 жыл бұрын
@@nitrowrldd4795 its quiet common that an interstate team has a killer season, then bottles it in the gf sydney swans are another example. Purely because the grand final is played in melbourne.
@TheAlphaDingo
@TheAlphaDingo 2 жыл бұрын
@@avarma6313 nah, that's silly pal. Good teams just win when it matters. It's why they become premiers and not just grand finalists. West Coast literally won the flag the next season to Adelaide in 2018 as an interstate side playing at the MCG against a local VIC team. Richmond also won another flag playing away in QLD due to COVID. Melbourne did the same last year (albeit against another VIC side - but both teams were able to earn the right to play the game by overcoming other contenders). Best teams and players just perform when the stakes are at their highest.
@RCT1963
@RCT1963 2 жыл бұрын
@@avarma6313 Where were the 97 & 98 grand finals played?
@stoinkydoinky
@stoinkydoinky 2 жыл бұрын
TLDR; stuck in mediocrity for many years that didn’t let us have access to top talent in draft and the introduction of expansion teams screwed us up along with tippett saga a major issue for us throughout the 2010s was that we were stuck in mediocrity, always finished mid table and never too low and then we shot up the table in the latter years, meaning we didn’t have access to high draft picks and also the tippet saga, we’re only now picking up gems in the draft which is something we haven’t had in ages for instance from 2008 draft to 2018 draft we only had 2 top 10 picks, Phil davis (who left us for GWS) and Chayce Jones (who is a dud) so we’ve had to rely on picking from the lower tier players and hoping they turn out alright, and it’s only been the last 3 drafts where we have managed to have the chance to pick the top players in the country, it still haunts me to this day that we messed up the 2018 “super draft” two times in the first round, but jones and mchenry are still only 21, so plenty of time to grow
@anthonystaikos8134
@anthonystaikos8134 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve waited so long for this and it didn’t disappoint, what a vid
@RugbyLeagueHistory
@RugbyLeagueHistory 2 жыл бұрын
This is a great video, as a Richmond supporter going into that 2017 Grand Final I thought we were maybe a chance and if we won it would be 1-2 goals. I did not expect the result we ended up winning by. I wouldn't say we were the laughing stock of the AFL, I look at teams like St Kida (1 flag, 27 wooden spoons) as a laughing stock. I think in some ways, Richmond broke Adelaide, they have never recovered from this moment.
@jampakhedrub13
@jampakhedrub13 2 жыл бұрын
Crows supporter here. I think although Richmond were in stellar form in that 2017 finals series, no one expected them to play such a flawless game as that 2017 grand final. I remember watching the game somewhat dispassionately and thinking at the end "that's about as good a game of footy as an AFL team could play." In a way that game probably caused people to sign off on the camp; I don't think Richmond itself broke us though. We've been horribly mismanaged on a variety of fronts (particularly recruitment and list management) since 2016 or 2017. Going through the failed draft picks, elite players we've lost, and the bonehead contract decisions (e.g., huge contracts for Sloane, Jenkins, the Crouches, Bryce Gibbs failure) over those last 5 years or so is pretty staggering
@lochie777
@lochie777 Жыл бұрын
We’ve recovered this season we should make the 8 if we stay playing like the last 2 rounds
@CoreyJones-kq1wj
@CoreyJones-kq1wj 4 ай бұрын
​@@lochie777 this comment aged well lol
@Patrick-qe3ci
@Patrick-qe3ci 2 жыл бұрын
Sensational job as always, Jagger! Keep these coming!
@rileybourke
@rileybourke 2 жыл бұрын
Love all these videos So informing and entertaining
@shramo
@shramo 2 жыл бұрын
awesome edits in this one, mate. the flow of the video was really well done. thanks!
@louiedagoatie1640
@louiedagoatie1640 2 жыл бұрын
Love that one of my fav KZbinrs is back with a fire upload on my bday!
@dyslexicmyasre688
@dyslexicmyasre688 2 жыл бұрын
"Adelaide were building the strongest team the club had held since their premiership run in the late 90's." I would have to disagree with this. Neil Craig's teams in the mid noughties were formidable and for a bit of luck in the finals and maybe "Matthew Pavlich" might have won 1 or 2 premierships. Good teams that fail to win premierships are quickly forgotten and this is a good example I think. Otherwise excellent content
@averian3191
@averian3191 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly, even our 90's team wasn't the best. We were very lucky to win those premierships.
@jaggerskilbeck
@jaggerskilbeck 2 жыл бұрын
Fair cop, almost worth a video in itself
@dyslexicmyasre688
@dyslexicmyasre688 2 жыл бұрын
@@averian3191 Again I'd disagree. You don't win 2 premierships in a row by accident. Malcolm Blight just had to keep tinkering with the forward line. It was otherwise an excellent team. But sure "luck" is always important: injuries, suspensions, bounces can all hurt.
@jakesaddo
@jakesaddo 2 жыл бұрын
@@dyslexicmyasre688 well, Adelaide don't win the 1998 Grand Final if North Melbourne kicked 10.2 instead of 2.10 in that 2nd quarter
@ferguson011
@ferguson011 2 жыл бұрын
@@averian3191 Lucky? Have you watched the games? Adelaide in 97 had to win four finals to win the flag, the first team ever to do so. The comeback against the Bulldogs was a classic, if you aren't a Bulldogs' supporter, and St Kilda were clearly outcoached and outplayed in a dominant second half. To then back up in '98 against one of the hottest flag favourites in AFL history took more than just luck. Remember the red hot 'Roos didn't kick a goal in the final quarter. Those teams may not have been Adelaide's best ever teams but they didn't win by luck.
@PeteTheElit3
@PeteTheElit3 2 жыл бұрын
I think this video missed the mark quite a bit on the Crows in certain spots. Really you needed to start at 2012 to get the full picture as well, covering the Tippet saga and lost draft picks, as well as being one team heavily raided by the expansion teams, losing Bock & Davis. The camp wasn't the reason 2018 was a failure, we started that year on fire but injuries got on top, by the time 2019 rolled around - to many of our senior players were on their last legs or cooked. Charlie, Lever & McGovern left for bigger contracts, with some of them traded whilst under contract. The Tippet sanctions & continual loss of gun players like Danger and Gunston hit us here, where we should have had another 2 or 3 gun players entering their prime, we had barely anyone. Having seen the writing on the wall, we swiftly began the clubs first rebuild. Senior players were moved on, as they were holding back young talent or were pretty much cooked. I reckon that most players endured the camp and moved on and forgot about it. Players were hounded about it in interviews over and over and barely looked interested. Undoubtedly, the AFC handled it terribly. They let gutter journalists twist and makeup rumours to fit their narrative and refused to defend themselves. It was like this on most issues in the media during the 2010's. Rarely would the AFC come out and defend itself when someone said something negative about them or spreaded a rumour. Journalists would post a headline from a 'source' and sheep will believe it, AFC would be silent. The story of the AFC in the 2010's is Draft sanctions, unparalleled loss of quality players, a murdered coach, a premiership window that opened and closed into a rebuild.
@jaggerskilbeck
@jaggerskilbeck 2 жыл бұрын
Fair take, there’s a lot of contributing factors that would’ve taken me years to cover. Injuries were crushing, but the take of Graham Cornes and stuff that the camp had 0 impact is misguided. It for sure played a role in players saying yes to contracts despite Mark Riccuito towing the party line and saying it was just money. Part 2 will cover more of that though
@yoavcohen2218
@yoavcohen2218 2 жыл бұрын
@@jaggerskilbeck Pyke wasn't a great coach, he wouldn't play youngsters, the loss of Cameron and lever before the camp really hurt and the 6-6-6 had way more influence. Also you can't really source an article that was retracted. Was the camp shit yeah probably, was it the torture the media made it out to be definitely not, safe work SA cleard collective minds, that means nothing to bad happened bon the camp
@nathansanders1680
@nathansanders1680 2 жыл бұрын
The impact of the camp is overstated and not relevant in the departure of most of those players. Lever and Cameron had already gone. Greenwood, Ellis-Yolman and Keath were all list management decisions to focus on youth. Jacobs was cooked and had been overtaken by ROB, Jenkins was offloaded to reduce cap pressure.
@franklyancel4129
@franklyancel4129 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely, the Tippet and expansion sagas really hurt us in the long run. The other thing people seem to skip over a lot was the rule change in 2018 to 6-6-6. You could see immediately from the start of that season that our game plan was shot. 2016-17 Crows would setup 4-6-8 with the big forwards isolated up front with far more space, with Charlie Cameron & co. streaming off the back of the square to provide more numbers in the middle for quick clearances. When 6-6-6 came in we lost that and Pyke etc. couldn’t come up with a suitable replacement plan. The other big thing is Crows got to the GF off a wave of emotion, remember how much ‘do it for Phil’ stuff there was that season. Getting there and playing for Walsh would have taken a massive emotional toll. It would have been galvanising for the group that season, but then hard to imitate that again the next season. Even harder given how bad the GF result ended up. I imagine GWS had a similar experience when they lost in 2019 - the expectation and pressure of being the new team on the block winning a maiden flag would have been massive, and given the result, seemingly similar outcome.
@taranullius9221
@taranullius9221 2 жыл бұрын
Agree, I still think there's an underlying cultural problem there as well though. I'm not going to forget the handling of Taylor Walker's racism any time soon. That "apology" made me feel sick in the stomach and I've supported this club since 1991. Some grade A disgusting PR shit from the AFC. Looked more like Robbie Young apologising. Ah well. Back after a few matches, give Louis CK a Grammy, keep a predator in Cabinet. Little slap on the wrist if you're white and a man.
@b0ssman719
@b0ssman719 2 жыл бұрын
Great to see u back keep up the good work
@ShezzasVideos
@ShezzasVideos 2 жыл бұрын
Thought we already had part 2 but I'll watch again
@horrorknight3096
@horrorknight3096 2 жыл бұрын
This is going to be put into a tailspin again with Eddie's book coming out.
@gussyboi1526
@gussyboi1526 2 жыл бұрын
I wish you uploaded more these are so good oh my god.
@aflfan4291
@aflfan4291 2 жыл бұрын
Idea: How the Brisbane Lions went from 15th to 2nd on the ladder in just one year
@nitrowrldd4795
@nitrowrldd4795 2 жыл бұрын
putting in effort and training hard is your answer
@cootey638
@cootey638 2 жыл бұрын
I believe Luke Hodge had an extremely heavy influence on the rise of the bears. In addition to Fages etc
@bibsp3556
@bibsp3556 2 жыл бұрын
With 7 years of hard work prior.
@bibsp3556
@bibsp3556 2 жыл бұрын
@@cootey638 lol the bears. It's not 1992 anymore
@cootey638
@cootey638 2 жыл бұрын
@@bibsp3556 righto champ
@patrickmilner4149
@patrickmilner4149 2 жыл бұрын
There is a lot of optimism and expectations around us as a club now that we've moved past the camp, exodus of players etc. I think we are still another year or 2 away from being in finals contention let alone playing finals
@o_orangeorange_o
@o_orangeorange_o 2 жыл бұрын
Jagger has returned. Loved this one, hopefully the saga will be officially concluded soon enough.
@jaggerskilbeck
@jaggerskilbeck 2 жыл бұрын
Love your music
@MarkingtonXIV
@MarkingtonXIV 2 жыл бұрын
This is the most solid piece of reportage on this story. Fucking excellent work, man.
@liamon1padyt789
@liamon1padyt789 2 жыл бұрын
So happy to see you back
@louistomlinsonmusicaus920
@louistomlinsonmusicaus920 2 жыл бұрын
I love your videos! Please keep doing KZbin. Your Chanel is gold for footy fans.
@shaz464
@shaz464 2 жыл бұрын
Most of the Crows who departed, left because they wanted longer contracts and more money than the Crows were prepared to offer. Players like Lever, Keith, Greenwood, Ellis Yomen, Jenkins all said they wanted to stay. If the Crows had agreed to what they wanted, they would have happily stayed. Betts wanted to see out the final year of his contract but was told that he would be playing some games in the SANFL, so he looked elsewhere As for McGovern, it was well known that he suddenly wasn’t happy about his contract that he’d only signed mid year, and his manager was shopping him around before the camp even happened. The only player who seemed to genuinely want to go was Charlie Cameron, when he went to Brisbane. And who knows why that was because he kept giving a different reason for leaving. Starting with he wanted to be with family (who were actually in WA!)
@helvijssaukants3479
@helvijssaukants3479 2 жыл бұрын
lever and cameron left, the rest were forced out due to age and adelaide wanting a complete rebuild
@-hobbit-9481
@-hobbit-9481 2 жыл бұрын
@@helvijssaukants3479 Lever left for 850k a year, we were never going to offer that
@yoavcohen2218
@yoavcohen2218 2 жыл бұрын
@@helvijssaukants3479 it's funny how Lever and Cameron's departure's are attributed to a camp they didn't attend
@themaster7552
@themaster7552 2 жыл бұрын
cameron was originally from brisbane
@shaz464
@shaz464 2 жыл бұрын
@@themaster7552 yes, was there when he was a kid. When he wanted to leave Crows he said he wanted to go to Brisbane to be with family, but they are in WA. Then he gave a couple of other different reasons. Kept changing his tune as to why he wanted to go.
@LachlanKellett
@LachlanKellett 2 жыл бұрын
I have been a Carlton supporter my Entire life but only started following the AFL fully engaged into every Game I think it was late 2019 more so from 2020. So, I had never heared anything about this but it explains why Eddie came back to the Baggers and why everyone left. Very down days for the Crows, hopefully there is a lift soon!
@-hobbit-9481
@-hobbit-9481 2 жыл бұрын
a lot of misinformation in this video mate
@FootyA2Z
@FootyA2Z 2 жыл бұрын
Great watch mate. Editing went up a notch in this one!
@jaggerskilbeck
@jaggerskilbeck 2 жыл бұрын
Collab is on
@FootyA2Z
@FootyA2Z 2 жыл бұрын
@@jaggerskilbeck 👀👀
@Zaiden.
@Zaiden. 2 жыл бұрын
Yes collab
@L4Z3clan
@L4Z3clan 2 жыл бұрын
Brilliant video mate!
@LrdIrving
@LrdIrving 2 жыл бұрын
Love the videos Jagger!
@rjdragon4776
@rjdragon4776 2 жыл бұрын
I have been waiting for this video for a very long time
@helvijssaukants3479
@helvijssaukants3479 2 жыл бұрын
this is just untrue, especially about the players ''wanting'' to leave, majority of them weren't offered new contracts due to age and adelaide wanting to do a complete rebuild of the entire team after disappointing results from 2018 and 2019 keath (28 at the time) jenkins (31 at the time) betts (33 at the time) cam ellis yolmen was literally delisted by the club greenwood (28 at the time) jacobs (31 at the time) forced all of gibbs (31), talia (30) and lynch (31) into early retirement, forced out brad crouch, hartigan, atkins, ect for draft picks lever, cameron and mcgovern were the ones who left without being forced out. lever and cameron left right after the 2017 grand final
@SgtTibbs-jj9hl
@SgtTibbs-jj9hl 2 жыл бұрын
Talia’s foot is cooked, why do you think no other club picked him up. Lynch is 32 and the club is in a rebuild
@leopoldstotch7711
@leopoldstotch7711 2 жыл бұрын
@@SgtTibbs-jj9hl second half of your comment is a cop out, doesn't really make sense, why rebuild if you have the second best team/why not include talia and drop worse players
@SgtTibbs-jj9hl
@SgtTibbs-jj9hl 2 жыл бұрын
@@leopoldstotch7711 second best team in 2017, but the group aged out and were done by the end 2019. Talia got delisted because he injured his foot and could get back to playing. He probably needed to retire, but he wasn’t ready. Potentially in denial. Disappointing way for his career to end. Also Lynch and Talia only finished end of last season so I don’t know what you’re talking about
@Weather-Report
@Weather-Report 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly, this video is packed so full of lies. The same lies the media tried to tell, and ended up losing a court case over.
@alistairdimmick2886
@alistairdimmick2886 4 ай бұрын
You don't cut off of your experience immediately, didn't go well for North. Simultaneously Richmond refused to rebuild in the early 2000's and it set them back a long way.
@malachykalowski7079
@malachykalowski7079 2 жыл бұрын
I don't even watch the AFL but these videos are incredible
@bjc9520
@bjc9520 2 жыл бұрын
If Adelaide were so shaken up by the camp, then why were they 6-3 after 9 rounds in 2018? They lost 2 of those 3 games by 12 (bombers) and 5 points (port) respectively. Everything imploded after round 10, where they were soundly thrashed by Melbourne by over 90 points. The camp occurred 5 months beforehand. Also, Adelaide led the GF for nearly half the game but were being crucified by the umpires. Everyone could see it. It made the umpiring in the 2016 GF look fair and balanced by comparison. The AFC 2005-2006 sides were formidable, but unlucky to have met a doped up superhuman Ben Cousins in the prelims. Sydney were the AFC's bunny team at the time.
@outlawrip-offartist4161
@outlawrip-offartist4161 2 жыл бұрын
After Eddie Betts his autobiography came out. Something jumped out at me. In 2014 when collective mines worked with Saint Kilda. Saint Kilda actually finished last in 2014, and the crows thought it was a good idea to bring in collective mind.
@intrixcorey
@intrixcorey 2 жыл бұрын
we need more videos!! you're like the jimmy highroller of AFL and i fucking love it
@danieljdtaylor
@danieljdtaylor 2 жыл бұрын
Great video as always! Love your work mate👍🏼
@overtimevibe322
@overtimevibe322 2 жыл бұрын
honestly such a great video
@theflyingdropbear2009
@theflyingdropbear2009 2 жыл бұрын
as a Crows supporter myself, watching after 2017 has been rather difficult, I often ask myself, how is it that team that was within striking distance of a premiership fall so badly? even after losing the 2017 GF, with the team they had, the premiership window was open, then it slammed shut on them so suddenly. now with whether the camp had anything to do with it, there needed to be transparency, which we as Crows supporters never got, all we had, was players leaving. that being said, I think the Crows will rise up the ladder, not this year, but in the subsequent seasons, especially as the younger lads get more game time, just as long as the board keeps Matty Nicks, just because of what he inherited, he has to play his part in rebuilding this team
@Yumm...
@Yumm... 2 жыл бұрын
Would love a follow up in a couple weeks with all the new interviews and fallout to come
@darcyelliott3545
@darcyelliott3545 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome mate. Your sport videos are the best ❤️❤️
@pagerewrite
@pagerewrite 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this ! Great content
@Wingyy1995
@Wingyy1995 3 ай бұрын
I remember walking out to kick to kick at the Gabba in 2015 after the Crows defeated Brisbane, saw Phil Walsh exiting the ground... kinda surreal that that was the last time he would walk off a footy field...
@Tisminc
@Tisminc 2 жыл бұрын
YOUR BACK!!!
@dmann7004
@dmann7004 2 жыл бұрын
Damn! An EXCELLENT discussion and one that will sadly continue for the Crows until they publicly admit that fiasco…. What is it now, 4 years - and still waiting!
@gniel4779
@gniel4779 Жыл бұрын
Can't wait for the part 2 in a few years...
@GolemProAnimations
@GolemProAnimations 2 жыл бұрын
Great video as always man
@tdb5048
@tdb5048 2 жыл бұрын
That was one of the happiest days of my life lmao. Was so worth all those shitty years
@clemboston4723
@clemboston4723 2 жыл бұрын
Love your vids man!
@beanburrito7706
@beanburrito7706 2 жыл бұрын
The worst part of that camp was when the players were woken up every morning at 3:30 am, striped naked and forced to form a human centipede . Tex was forced to be at the back every time. But it made him a better husband I suppose
@LesEy
@LesEy Жыл бұрын
Fair video BUT, will you be doing a part III in two years from now?
@stephendunlop4297
@stephendunlop4297 2 жыл бұрын
Another awesome video 👏🏼
@TheDirge69
@TheDirge69 2 жыл бұрын
Great video and very well written, subbed and liked.
@doedoe9307
@doedoe9307 2 жыл бұрын
While the camp was definitely a disaster, I don't think the Crows are still in disarray. Sure, we are still in rebuild, but our squad now is actually looking very capable with a strong future. The fact that we've won/loss most of our matches within a goal shows that we have heart and a passion that was absent since 2017. Call me delusional but I reckon with the team gelling together with experience and players improving on certain aspects like kicking accuracy, and potentially some pick-ups to add depth, we could be genuine Finals, and even Grand Final, contenders sooner than you'd expect.
@natetuna3879
@natetuna3879 2 жыл бұрын
love these very well made
@australianvaletraincuthber9294
@australianvaletraincuthber9294 2 жыл бұрын
What background music do you use for your vids?
@Schmiddie__
@Schmiddie__ 2 жыл бұрын
"and it will take the crows years to recover.." *enter Josh Rachele*
@CoreyJones-kq1wj
@CoreyJones-kq1wj 4 ай бұрын
Wow this hasn't aged well lol 😅 Josh is behaving like a flog
@mrstraya7533
@mrstraya7533 2 жыл бұрын
It’s scary how quickly a team can be nearly premiership to wooden spooners within 3 years
@albertmiller2electricbooga897
@albertmiller2electricbooga897 2 жыл бұрын
I miss their high scoring footy, it was so fun to watch
@zakktsakoumangos2101
@zakktsakoumangos2101 2 жыл бұрын
Me: “not having anything to watch on KZbin” *jager posts😍*
@HD-kr6yw
@HD-kr6yw 2 жыл бұрын
Keep up the great content 🔥🔥
@turdferguson27
@turdferguson27 2 жыл бұрын
Greenwood, Keith, Ellis-Yolmen, Jacobs etc were all advised they were on the trade table as the club wanted to rebuild hard and hit the draft. O'Brien had overtaken Sauce and the other boys were all 27yo or more. The club got as much out of them as they could. If Matt Crouch stayed fit, then Ellis-Yolmen would have been in the SANFL anyway. Betts was offered a deal on less money and would have to play a % of SANFL games as they blooded young players and he didn't want that. his wife also wanted to return to Melbourne. I like the video production but some of the opinions sound like they're taken from one side of the argument without doing the due diligence on the other
@shaz464
@shaz464 2 жыл бұрын
You are absolutely right with all you said. It makes me angry when people talk about the “mass exodus”. Most of the players who departed left because Crows didn’t agree to their unreasonable contract demands, and Crows opted to let them go. And this is definitely a one-sided view point. What about the players who came out and said they either liked the camp or had no problem with it.
@rhino2340
@rhino2340 2 жыл бұрын
yeah he should've acted like a complete crom nuf and made stuff up
@jaggerskilbeck
@jaggerskilbeck 2 жыл бұрын
Hang around for part 2
@shaz464
@shaz464 2 жыл бұрын
@@jaggerskilbeck no thanks.
@I_hate_Vegemite
@I_hate_Vegemite 2 жыл бұрын
It was a dumb move putting Keith on the trade table. Only got peanuts for a top KPD that would be helping the team at the moment.
@modalsoulmedia
@modalsoulmedia 2 жыл бұрын
Fantastic video mate
@DIGtotheIT
@DIGtotheIT 2 жыл бұрын
We are probably closer to our next Prelim than to our last Grand Final. #PrelimBy2027
@rafiwerdiger
@rafiwerdiger 2 жыл бұрын
Please make an analysis on norths collapse
@rileybourke
@rileybourke 2 жыл бұрын
The North side yes But not Port, it is only round 4
@rafiwerdiger
@rafiwerdiger 2 жыл бұрын
Fair
@protoindoeuropean
@protoindoeuropean 2 жыл бұрын
Great video jagger
@aussiethingz
@aussiethingz 2 жыл бұрын
Best content 💯
@hayhaytube5120
@hayhaytube5120 2 жыл бұрын
Shit content
@marks2997
@marks2997 2 жыл бұрын
Quality content. Bravo.
@Zoso_1990
@Zoso_1990 2 жыл бұрын
I was at that prelim vs Geelong... And then at that Grand Final. :(
@klokar21
@klokar21 2 жыл бұрын
Can't wait to see part 2, will you be covering Tex Walkers racism as well?
@aflfan4291
@aflfan4291 2 жыл бұрын
How do you do this jagger it’s just so good how you edit and find the sources
@jaggerskilbeck
@jaggerskilbeck 2 жыл бұрын
Final Cut Pro and a shit load of research
@aflfan4291
@aflfan4291 2 жыл бұрын
Do you know when part 2 is coming out
@robmeagher2443
@robmeagher2443 2 жыл бұрын
My favourite part of this debacle was Tex Walker declaring Jake Lever was chasing cash rather than team success 😄
@unchangedimage1603
@unchangedimage1603 2 жыл бұрын
Jagger’s back, tell a friend
@tobyhellewell5981
@tobyhellewell5981 2 жыл бұрын
As a Crows fan, I think the issues run deeper than the collective minds camp, although it is clearly a very big factor in our downfall. Another comment mentions this, but the culture of the club was one of a stepping stone club for many years through the 2010’s with players like Tippet, Davis, Dangerfield, etc all moving on. We’ve really struggled to keep hold of our talent. Lever, Cameron and McGovern are prime examples of seriously good players having a decent season or two and then going interstate. I don’t think it’s ever been a destination club. I honestly think Phil Walsh was turning it into that and it’s truly sad that we’ll never get to see the fruits of what he was doing. And although we lost the 2017 GF, I will always thank Don Pyke for giving us 2 pretty amazing years there. He got to a grand final which Neil Craig never did in the many years he was coach.
@Croweaterrr
@Croweaterrr 2 жыл бұрын
I don’t like pyke still and I was happy when Nicksy came
@smoothbeak
@smoothbeak 2 жыл бұрын
This sounds like military style training, kind of like the movie "Full Metal Jacket", the idea being the you tear people down and build them back up again from scratch. Of course the issue is that this is football, and no one is needing to prepare to die. In addition many people who do undergo military training are changed in a negative way from it.
@rosh.alvarez
@rosh.alvarez 2 жыл бұрын
great video man
@KaiShippey
@KaiShippey 7 ай бұрын
Haha. U just broke all the Gold Coast suns hearts Gun wood requested a join to the suns OF ALL PLACES
@outlawrip-offartist4161
@outlawrip-offartist4161 2 жыл бұрын
Every team has to go into a rebuild but if the team doesn’t win a premiership with your previous list, the rebuild hurts a little bit more, and I can’t explain why.
@normanchamings8156
@normanchamings8156 2 жыл бұрын
A good summary of what has happened to the AFC. They will be back on top again. Go crows
@CLD_Storm
@CLD_Storm Жыл бұрын
Idk if we have, but i think we have recovered
@alexjones9038
@alexjones9038 2 жыл бұрын
i reccon you should do a video on the 2013 Brisbane Lions, an absolute rollercoaster season
@djstorey
@djstorey 2 жыл бұрын
What’s with the reupload?
@outlawrip-offartist4161
@outlawrip-offartist4161 2 жыл бұрын
I still can’t believe Charlie Cameron asked for a trade to Brisbane.
@themaster7552
@themaster7552 2 жыл бұрын
Ended up working out for him though
@41drifter8
@41drifter8 2 жыл бұрын
Well he grew up in Brisbane so...
@cosmicdib4823
@cosmicdib4823 9 ай бұрын
Man. The amount of ethical violations made during this camp... horrifying stuff.
@jeremy_leow
@jeremy_leow 2 жыл бұрын
great stuff mate
@stephenphilipps
@stephenphilipps Жыл бұрын
I think they have emerged now but yeah took from that day until this year. To even be competitive in a finals race sort of situation
@henrygoodwin6233
@henrygoodwin6233 2 жыл бұрын
Man your videos need to be picked up by Kayo or Fox. Awesome videos
@jb5465
@jb5465 2 жыл бұрын
Keen for part 2, go crom
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