What Happened to the City of GONDOLIN? | Middle-Earth Lore

[@17Watman]

The Fall of Gondolin was (to the best of my knowledge) the very first part of Middle-Earth that he wrote while still fighting in the trenches of WW1.

[@danclements1040]

On sick leave from military, after battle of somme

[@alanmike6883]

The siege of gondolin is epic. It fires images as they desperately tried to fight back which they must've known was a hopeless battle

[@lordofthehouseofstormcrows8615]

My favorite line from the fall of Gondollin "....and then Tuor was upon him(Meglin) and his wrath was terrible to see.." ahhhhhh! F@#K You Meglin!

[@rangerofthenorth1970]

Fall of Gondolin would trully be an epic batlle and it would be really cool to see it on the big screen! Also probablly one of my favorite characters from the first age fought during this siege, Turgon, Ecthelion, Glorfindel... baddass and great warrior every one of them! Jake, another great video, I havent comment that over there but video anout Batman killing rule is one of the best videos on the channel! Very interesting and great video!

[@enricogiannini7455]

Ecthelion of the Fountain, Tuor of the Wing, Glorfindel of the Huose of the Golden Flower, and The High King of Noldor Turgon sun of the Mightiest of All Fingolfin. A Dream Team of the Legendarium.

[@oscardinogetti3824]

A video on the dark elf would be most excellent. I recall the one from HotA as being very intriguing. I really loved the more obscure videos you had about Gondorian kings, minor characters and far off places.

[@islaamore3027]

Thank you fir your wonderful videos! And yes, I would like to see a video about Ael the dark elf!

[@TheBrokenSword]

Thanks for watching 😊

[@Blong243]

Good job as always. Makes me wonder what all would have changed if they left when warned.

[@nataliazivanovic4399]

I always press the like button at the beginning of the video ... I don't think I'm an objective listener. To put jokes aside, you do a great job, combine all the valid books and point out what matters in the movies. Great job, thanks guys.🍀

[@hypixal1512]

The intro always sends a chill down by back

[@TJDious]

Title: What happened to the city of Gondolin? Picture: Dragon setting fire to te city of Gondolin Succinct.

[@inblackestnight9256]

More dark elf info? Yes please!

[@Knight860]

Thanks for reuploading this!

[@Jayjay-qe6um]

There are notably similarities between Gondolin and Troy, especially between the more detailed early Lost Tale and the account of the Fall of Troy as told by Virgil in his Aeneid. Both cities have their origins in the God of the Sea, as the walls of Troy were built by Poseidon/Neptune. Both also are doomed because of treachery (one internal, the other external) and while their citizens celebrated a feast. Both Aeneas and Tuor are destined to survive the destruction, managing to kill all enemies while wandering through the battle and seeing the death of their respective kings. Both also secretly lead survivors to escape the city, accompanied by their relatives (while Aeneas carries his father, Tuor carries his son).

[@georgebrandao6674]

W O W! Did not remember that! This makes much more sense now.

[@darbyelliott2890]

Maybe a video on the Dark Elf!?

[@bladombla]

"the dart struck his wive" thats not a dart that was a full blown spear 4:06

[@lordofthehouseofstormcrows8615]

ECTHELION!!! I cannot think of a more worthy House than the House of The Hammer of Wrath. Also the fact Ecthelion's House of The Fountain played flutes....bad ass!! Keep up the great work Mellon!!

[@alanmike6883]

And the house of the golden flower

[@lordofthehouseofstormcrows8615]

@@alanmike6883 Too true mellon

[@alanmike6883]

@@lordofthehouseofstormcrows8615 Noble lords. Noble houses. Tried to desperately hold back the night for the people to escape. Both fountain and flower and others lost many fighters buying time. Glorfindel himself committed the ultimate act of selfless sacrifice Mellon 😉👍

[@lordofthehouseofstormcrows8615]

@@alanmike6883 Don't forget Ecthelion's sacrifice killing Gothmog

[@alanmike6883]

@@lordofthehouseofstormcrows8615 Indeed. Killing morgoths most experienced and feared commander and de facto general of his armies was no mean feat. Such a act, I don't know why the valor sent him back to middle earth too. Imagine a tag team of glorfindel and ecthelion. 😊

[@izaforestspirit7811]

Yes, please do a video on Eol, the dark elf.

[@enricogiannini7455]

The event, together with the fall of the Doriath, that trigger all the 2nd and 3rd ages of the Middle Earth. That brought us the War of wrath, Numenor, and all those heroic event of the War of the ring. One of the most beautiful reading of all the work of the Professor. After the fight of Fingolfin against Melkor this is just up there, a masterpiece of sadness and hope. Is the closing of the circle and the begging of the fall of the first dark lord.

[@the5as1marchingarts]

Been waiting for this video

[@ericconnell6714]

Great video as always.

[@TheBrokenSword]

Thank you 😊

[@BJETNT]

You and men of the West are my two favorite channels and I have nothing but love for both of you. You've given me many hours of entertainment on a fascinating subject of the The the greatest legendarium ever known thank you so much

[@TheBrokenSword]

Wow, thank you! We really appreciate that!

[@Wraithlord-fp5lh]

The one thing I kinda wish was explored more was the fleeing of Gondolin. Like after the Balrog did the orks just let them go or was there any battles that took place so that the orks were delayed by elves.

[@DreamMarko]

I always like how you talk about the lore :)

[@sdev2749]

I want to know why in the hell would 435 people here put a thumbs down for this video??? I think you who did this are pathetic and vile - This video just like every other one posted by TBS are fantastic and bring to life Tolkien's work in a way that can be easily understood without every having to read the books. Giving these videos a thumbs down is typical of vile people who should not be here.

[@ashishshenoy3778]

relax

[@ianheins650]

Nice work dude

[@ChrisOUTEC]

Yes to the dark elf video!

[@Aurora-qn2dx]

0:55 seems like Elf on viewers left joined the Nights Watch 🤔🤭🤩

[@tristan9648]

3:36 would love a video on them

[@alberpajares4792]

Well, after so many years searching for it’s location, morgoth suddenly assaulted the city,..

[@Gokkee]

There is a difference between hate and criticism and it looks like frome your condemnation of the criticism you got for the amazon show vids your not used to it. I condem all treats, harassment etc. But here has been alot of unfair name-calling on both sides of the argument. Keep up the great work with the lore vids👌

[@J.G.H.]

Gondolin was in Belariand, so the site of the city was sunk below the waves with the rest of the that section of the central continent of Middle Earth at the end of the First Age during the War of Wrath.

[@toddfeather5760]

Another video with plenty of information and sad that gondolin fell due to someone been jealous and of pride too

[@nickd3157]

Still waiting on the explanation of how elves dream differently lol

[@michasalamon8315]

I think the ruins are still somewhere under the sea.

[@oscurosignore8026]

Here we have the first death of a balrog after many years of war.

[@Huskytabby]

What-if video idea for you to do: What if Gandalf never fell at the Bridge of Khazad-dum and continued with the fellowship to Lothlorien and on forward?

[@blacktemplar5970]

@the broken sword...You guys should check out a channel called Zorpazorp...he does fantastic LoTR miniature builds...there may be a beautiful friendship to be had

[@TheBrokenSword]

Yeah we've spoke to them a few times in the past. Cool channel

[@blacktemplar5970]

@@TheBrokenSword definitely...that's really cool

[@BeTeLGeuZeX]

Never give up on the channel. I know the Tolkien estate has done a number on yalls motivation and plans. But Anything is possible and yall are great at what yall do. Please never stop.

[@TheBrokenSword]

Thanks 🙏

[@vikingodin1986]

Yes more more more

[@90proofdeathride]

Great content. Might be good to read the script a little slower tho.

[@bigsarge2085]

👍

[@tankboy2adfwd]

Good content, though the delivery fell very short.

[@Tharpyboy]

Dark elf

[@penguinmaster2423]

Are you the old history of middle earth guys

[@calebsmith7179]

It's been obvious to me from when I started watching your channel that you guys love and respect Tolkien's works. We live in crazy times where you guys are being accused of being "shills". You are better off without those types of people and keep up the great work!

[@BeneMitja]

Be good ;) Regards

[@vikingskuld]

Yeah sorry may sound kind of crass but I would definitely have hunted that city down if I lived in middle earth. No telling what kind of magic weapons and what armor you could find there.

[@anthonyhanks1807]

Who ruled the first age city of minas tirith that would be known as the isle of werewolves

[@jeffreed671]

You mean orodreath or Sauron after the fall?

[@anthonyhanks1807]

@@jeffreed671 yes orodreath

[@lordofthehouseofstormcrows8615]

Finrod Felegund

[@jeffreed671]

@@lordofthehouseofstormcrows8615 he was it’s builder but left orodreath in charge when he went a fingoling around

[@lordofthehouseofstormcrows8615]

@@jeffreed671 Thank you for the reminder. I always get that backwards

[@nole8923]

It got f__ked up.

[@ianfarquharson3772]

Hate about what?? You talk about a fictional world. How can anyone get offended by that?🤔😅😫Great video as usual.ThankQ.TkEZ

[@nosotrosloslobosestamosreg4115]

You missed the "diversified" elves.

[@dambrooks7578]

It is always interesting to see the dirty Elves doing as much to destroy the world of Earth that is often skipped over and blamed on the innocent Orcs 😳🙂😥

[@averongodoffire8098]

Truly the tragedy of the orcs is one that makes most peoples weep

[@JRBDWD]

This is the equivalent of a BLM tweet,lol. 🤣

[@dambrooks7578]

@@JRBDWD nothing like it actually, I think my constant favouring of anything that isn't an Elf is just me being purposefully obtuse, Black Lives Matter are raising a valuable contribution to the social discourse, it is not just very different, it is absolutely nothing like it.

[@JRBDWD]

@@dambrooks7578 >BLM >"Valuable contribution" Hahahaha 😂 Nah,you are just doing the same IRL,lol

[@PNut8421]

I'm a bit out of the loop. Why is there hate against the Tolkien fandom?? Is it from the Rings of Power show?? If it is, I don't see how this would affect people's opinions of your channel and those like it. Why be angry at you guys when I don't approve of Amazon and its "interpretation" of Tolkiens work with their show?

[@Gokkee]

The problem for channels like this is that they stay true to Tolkien when making vids of lore, but don't call out bs frome amazon, when if enough backlash happened there is atleast a possibility they would change their direction and correct obvious destruction of Tolkien's work. That's why it's easy to "hate" on them when they "pick a side" in the conflict.

[@PNut8421]

@@Gokkee I personally couldn't care less either way. I just want to learn as much as I can. TBS is easily one of the best channels for Tolkien lore. Regardless of what "side" they take, I'm still going to be subscribed and will watch their content.

[@Gokkee]

@@PNut8421 agree ;) Their lore part of the channel is awesome :D I just wish they actually tried to push back on amazon and not call their audience racist because they don't like what amazon promote. Edited in: lore before part*

[@newbiegain117]

Why’s there hate in the fandom

[@TheBrokenSword]

Just go through the comments on the last video about the amazon show and you will see...

[@Wimpiethe3]

@@TheBrokenSword Respectfully, you guys are in part to blame for what happened. I listened to the video and I simply didn't take his word for it. Considering the run up to the show I find it hard to believe it's going to turn out decent. In this case I will need to see it to believe it. But that's fine I didn't see the presentation myself so, who's to say he's wrong. The problem I see with that video however is the lack of disclosure. There was no real telling what kind of event it was. What was paid for and what was given. Was something signed or not? No idea. There should have been more clarity on your part, especially considering the legitimate worries that many have about the show. That just fuels the odds of possible issues arising. Calling it simply hatred within the community is in bad taste. You can't simply shove it all off on some who don't like you. A follow up video explaining a few things would have gone a long way, dismissing it like that simply worsense the situation more. A more measured approach could well soften what has happened. Whatever the case this channel's potential seems now linked to the show. If things will be good then you can say, see. Told you. If not, well that be unfortunate. Also because the footage you have been shown may well be all that was good about the show. It was likely carefully prepared to advertise. Anyway i'm still watching as the content has always been pretty solid. Plus i'm not overly attached to people who run a channel, rather focus on the contents. Within reason, of course. Hope you guys don't take my comment the wrong way. I don't wish you anything bad. And it's nothing more than my personal take either way.

[@calebsmith7179]

@@Wimpiethe3 I have to respectfully disagree, the fans are to blame for this. What happened here is a classic example of an internet mob. Many fans have already made up their minds that this show is going to be terrible, so anyone who says otherwise must be lying. They can't handle the fact that the people who saw the twenty minutes of footage liked what they saw and eased some of the doubts they were having. This has turned into some silly conspiracy where now a channel such as this, where they clearly love and respect Tolkien's works, are now being accused of being "shills". The channel is better off without those sorts of people.

[@mmilller452]

Was Gondolin not part of Gondor?

[@ThinkViralShorts]

No, Gondolin was an elven city in the first age, The realm of Gondor did not exist until the second age

[@quentandil]

Thank you for having an audio recording of Tolkien Gateway's article on Gondolin. A pity you didn't mention that, turning your video in a shameful appropiation!!

[@bensantos3882]

The hate is justified and dutifully given. Tolkien is a South African who immigrated back to England. He grew up with non Europeans and the like but he went back to his roots and developed his folklore, characters and stories on European-British folklore. With the exception of the dwarves who clearly had Jewish roots the people are European whites. I will always support and back this channel but if it discusses the Amazon remakes or stories I will not watch and stay with the Fandom. I'm tired of inclusion and black washing our history and people for the damn sake of stupid diversity. There should be no reason to ever put a homosexual, Trans, Indian or black person in Tolkien's works. It's popular because of its European inspiration and characters you ruined it Amazon!

[@martingustafsson5383]

Ho can hate tolken

[@TheLastKentuckyIrregular9524]

It is a lot harder to enjoy y'all's videos now that I know you've bent the knee to Amazon. Makes it very hard to take anything y'all do now as actual fandom.

[@calebsmith7179]

If you honestly believe such a baseless thing then leave, no one is forcing you to stay.

[@benwoodard6851]

Bye

[@morgoth173]

Video 117

[@marcusaurelius9577]

Can you make a video about the Christian influence and themes in the Lord of the rings And if any of you are fans of CS Lewis( Tolkien Best friend )and his writing you might like a channel called going into the wardrobe it’s a complete Narnia KZbin channel that explains the history and lore of the universe he’s actually going to do a co-op with another Lord of the rings KZbin channel and he’s actually in the process of making some what if crossovers between Narnia and the lord of the rings

[@JRBDWD]

That would make enough material for a movie.

[@benwoodard6851]

No need to interject bronze age fairytales

[@marcusaurelius9577]

@@benwoodard6851 😂🤣😂🤣😂😂 A bronze age fairytale how utterly false bad statement is and untrue

[@benwoodard6851]

@@marcusaurelius9577 how is it false? When you answer please attempt to type full sentences. Your reply makes very little sense.

[@shadow-dc8sc]

Frist

[@TheBrokenSword]

🙌

[@Ktotwf]

Nothing good.

[@Wisescarab]

Ahh, another video from the sellouts. Another chance to downvote

[@TheBrokenSword]

Would have been nice to be paid to say "we are cautiously optimistic" That would be better than giving our opinions for free

[@Wisescarab]

@@TheBrokenSword You said more than that, and it sounded like you were reading off a sheet. And your holiday was paid for, room, board, all the works. That is the definition of being bought - even assuming nothing else passed your hands. Which, yo have zero credibility now, as it were.

[@jacobv3396]

You certainly are easy to provoke and offend.

[@calebsmith7179]

Ah, another delusional fan who can't handle other people's differing opinions. Another chance to facepalm.