we lost so bad…😓 such an incredible group we could’ve had so much more if not for schedule clashes, members leaving SM and psychopathic fangirls💔
@hdjejei10 ай бұрын
Just another victim of SM horrible management
@treubaking10 ай бұрын
yes, I agree wholeheartedly.
@whenlifegivesyoulemonseatit_10 ай бұрын
Still stanning superm till i die
@ellyy-lv9 ай бұрын
Same here!!❤
@azurehickman752410 ай бұрын
SuperM was Lee Soo Man brain child and his idea of a super group. When he left SM the new CEO dismantled the group because he did not like the idea and wanted to exploit the artists for all he could in their respective groups. SuperM will never have another album.
@elivile.10 ай бұрын
Wait.. Lee Soo Min left SM?! Since when?
@AriaLazuli10 ай бұрын
@@elivile. Since the entire hybe and kakao trying to take over sm and then the entire lee soo man apparently illegally bagging money and issues within the management stuff happened and this all happened in early 2023 if i remember correctly
@eileencritchley46309 ай бұрын
@@AriaLazuli Yes he running to Band PD begging him to buy his shares.
@seerdaf724610 ай бұрын
I refuse to say that it's the DUMBEST.... like... If anything, it's actually smart. But then covid happened, and the plans were ruined once and for all because they only had another 2 years before the enlistments start. So... I mean, shit happens. Look at the members for gods sake?! And the songs? They had bops after bops, their albums were no skipssss
@ElleMist10 ай бұрын
I miss SuperM. I was lucky enough to see them on tour. I even have the Marvel collaboration merch, lol. I was over the moon when it got announced they would be in a group together because I adore all their respective groups. Things just happened one after the other as I watched the possibility of SuperM ever making a return crumble to pieces. I am waiting for the stars to align and I am okay if they do not.
@nyangnyang861110 ай бұрын
it could have really been one of the biggest things in kpop if things had gone differently
@AlexaOleksa10 ай бұрын
It couldn't, cause it was derivative from the start. Music was another sm sounds, they took guys who probably don't even want to be together that much, but it could help their solo careers further - this is not a mix that screams "next big thing"
@moonlightbae_10 ай бұрын
@@AlexaOleksa i disagree, they took the best dancers, an outstanding vocalist, skilled rappers i mean if sm planned it right they could’ve been huge, they mainly promoted in america which was a real shame
@treubaking10 ай бұрын
I wouldn't start making assumptions. Although I liked the idea, they took the best of SM and putting the best people together never works. They thrive in their own habitats.@@AlexaOleksa
@jespyjeonglee378210 ай бұрын
@@AlexaOleksa well they are friends. Taemin love being with superM and take care of youngers like Ten , kai stay with Lucas even in hiatus and loves Mark . Baek and Taeyong play together before superM inactivy and so... they were a brilliant groups with high quality talent but the manage and covid made them stop this great step. I lost to kpop cause their discography is GOD. Maybe you are just a hater or a fan of Exo, Shinee or NCT who tried to sabotage superM giving unnecesary hate when they debut, do u?
@g100-w6j10 ай бұрын
Not even close lol it was doomed from the start
@Italia_iPerspective10 ай бұрын
Super M was the 3rd kpop group I got into. I was able to get into NCT, Wayv, EXO and Shinee because of them. I genuinely like their music and am eager to see how they come back as a group. I am excited to see ALL members now contribute as they have grown ❤
@moonlightbae_10 ай бұрын
literally an ace group rap kings markyong🌟 vocal kings baekmin 🌟 dance kings kaiminten 🌟
@ds-zd9qz10 ай бұрын
lol no
@Maria-he1db10 ай бұрын
@@ds-zd9qz I don't even stan any of the groups but their talents are undeniable
@AlexaOleksa10 ай бұрын
Rap kings lol😂😂😂😂
@moonlightbae_10 ай бұрын
@@ds-zd9qz have you not seen those three dancing, baekhyuns vocals??? be fr
@moonlightbae_10 ай бұрын
@@AlexaOleksa What😂😂
@EverRoxas10 ай бұрын
Offensive title, TBH...
@carolinaperez248910 ай бұрын
Right?
@treubaking10 ай бұрын
Quotations mean he's quoting. I do the the creator was a bit harsh considering they've done nothing wrong as a group. Just didn't work out. Don't go after Seb tho.
@EverRoxas10 ай бұрын
@@treubaking Nah, I won't go after him. Just disappointed in his title...
@Tooba-K12310 ай бұрын
So I'm not the only one being weirded out by the title
@eileencritchley46309 ай бұрын
@@Tooba-K123 He's a reactor and the title in the title of the video's he's reacting to. errm so what is he supposed to do give it another title and get a copyright strike???????
@jespyjeonglee378210 ай бұрын
SuperM albums are the best I ever heard and I listen kpop since 2008, sooo you can tell how tasty all the tracks are. SRLY go and listen the hole discography. Such a pity they will never make a come back but their time in kpop must be known. 7 precious members with flawless talents and insane visuals
@classical710 ай бұрын
The concept was new & interesting. The Artists are extremely talented, but the name completely threw me off.
@AlexaOleksa10 ай бұрын
15:46 bts also did online concerts in june 2020 and november. Hybe has 360 concert production branch, they also had AR technology and all the glitz. As i remember they first partnered with the west company for the live streaming that specialized in sports streamings, cause they needed capacity to host stable syreams for audience of over 500K. But then they switched to Weverse live, they developed (or bought) their own inhous streaming stuff. But we know it is not always smooth with Weverse, cause during Jhope Lollapalooza live and Busan live especially there was freezes, cause weverse didn't expect tens of million of peoe to log in i guess😅
@eileencritchley46309 ай бұрын
There was nothing wrong with J Hope's lollapalooza live stream as I watched it live from the UK. It might have been your internet provider. And BTS online concert due to covid had over 1.33million online watching it online in real time with no problem's and it was joint so they could see us on monitors. Oh the Busan one when the a server went down was nothing to with with HYBE that was a where some servers were being housed hada fire. Thankfully no one was hurt in the company that was hosting from that server. They had to re route all those who were connected to that particular server to other's servers in other places. I wasn't effected I never lost connection must have been coming from a different set of servers. in another location.
@Super_Chamchi10 ай бұрын
That means they either neglect the original groups or work them to death. That kind of song wouldn't make it in the West. It didn't even make it on Hot 100. Thiers fans were buying album, but not listening to it.
@benjridimalek905110 ай бұрын
i never liked this whole getting approved by the west (US) idea tbh coz like kpop is already huge in asian countries and other places so they never needed america to be successful and i know it comes from the fact that western music is known worldwide but it's not like 1 side is more talented so they shoud've just focused on the countries that already love them and the biggest turnoff for me is IT ALL KINDA RUINS THAT SPECIAL KPOP SOUND COZ GROUPS STARTED adapting their music to the western style like bts blackpink etc.. so i wish companies just stop trying to break through the west and focus on the talents that they have...
@nickeypamphile458810 ай бұрын
Huh...I agree to one thing and disagree to the rest 😬.Besides, there isn't adapting to, when the west is the inspiration 😬.
@jespyjeonglee378210 ай бұрын
ur wrong. SM has his own sound and color. They invented kpop and always try to safe this but "a x company" try to monopolise kpop to convert kpop in pop and buy another companies or share of stonks ...THAT IS DANGEROUS to kpop. if people like pop if ok, but it already exist. Kpop must stay like always bringing this peculiar sound combinated with other genders
@AlexaOleksa10 ай бұрын
@@jespyjeonglee3782 lol, "sm has sound" - that's the problem, cause artists have to have sound, not label, sure there are certain small sound some producers used to be recognised, like click of handcuffs,but overall sound never should be a smth that is used for all the artists. It's like having only strawberry flavoured food, good but becomes boring. Also, you don't know what monopoly is CJM and Kakao media giants that own most of entertainment in Korea. It is them who are threat to a business, cause they don't care about any kind of "authenticity"
@AlexaOleksa10 ай бұрын
Define special kpop sound? How you identify special kpop sound. Name the elements
@g100-w6j10 ай бұрын
why u mentioning bts ..... ohhh dpmo
@elivile.10 ай бұрын
I'm just saying this now: If people think it's dumb; that's a them problem.
@dancelauren405810 ай бұрын
I miss SuperM so bad, so yeah!!!
@marart662710 ай бұрын
As a taemin stan I was happy with superm cuz I had more content 😂
@jespyjeonglee378210 ай бұрын
and he was so happy with the dongsaengs, still remember motherTaemresa
@marart662710 ай бұрын
@@jespyjeonglee3782 motherTaemresa 😂😂😂
@hiyokikuran614510 ай бұрын
Ye but his solo was really just ignored by the company when he was with superm, promotions were near non existent and he had to put more content towards the group than his own
@zuraondembeats54010 ай бұрын
SuperM has arguably the best line up of idol in kpop group to date in my eyes. If they were more promoted in Korea, they could've easily became way bigger.
@ida834610 ай бұрын
I remember that time. Almost all headlines was “superm the next bts” etc, and honestly that pissed me off 😅 nothing against the group but the way ppl talked about bts and army’s left me with not really wanting to consume their music or content. I do think if no one at that time mentioned bts or tried to compare them or dragging them, they would have gotten bigger by time and even maybe lasted as a group for longer. It seemed like the company only goal was to beat bts and bighit and not for the whole experience, opportunity’s for the members of the group. Idk, maybe I’m totally wrong and only think like this cause I’m army and saw how it was on twitter etc. just my personal opinion 🤷♀️ Again, nothing about the members of superm I think they’re great. It’s not like they can control the reporters and fans. 🫶
@yoselin99039 ай бұрын
At that time I checked it out because of Taemin. Then I heard Mark's rap in Jopping and he became my bias. No I listen to NCT 127, WAYV, Dream and Im a huge fan of Kai. I also really love their songs. Bunch of bangers
@emiraseav929310 ай бұрын
I hope no one comes at me for saying this but like superm feels like a group made to compete with BTS in the US market on a whim, they didnt think it through at all. The songs were very SM-ish, they didnt try to do anything different and just smashed all their popular stars in one group in a desperate attempt to jump on the new ventures and when it didnt work as they hoped it would they just abandoned them. It sickens me lowkey cause they got fucking kpop veterens in that group and this is how you treat them like nahhhhh. I just find it so disrespectful to the members themselves, they deserve better.
@Chronic_Chaotic_nerd10 ай бұрын
Both taemin and onew are leaving as soloists but will continue under shinee as a group, definitely watch the lucas docs too
@ZEROSE_life10 ай бұрын
when I here jopping i realize superm probably wont comeback but it least we can remember they made bangers.
@kimberlykelly40908 ай бұрын
You have to think these were some of the best members from bands SM had hell Taemin and Kai alone, not to mention Ten, Tae, Lucas, and Mark. But I think it was scheduling troubles and crazy fan like what happened to Lucas that broke this band up.
@samanthas176510 ай бұрын
SuperM was the best but the pandemic, plus military duties & the mess at SM sabotaged everything. It’s obviously over though now. 😢
@ELmayberry10 ай бұрын
As a spermie, I was hoping for a cb for SuperM, esp after Girls on Top( got the Beat), but alas 😅
@foxywarriorlove899210 ай бұрын
In all honesty, folks over reacted with this group. Acted like these young men wasn’t old enough to make decisions for themselves. SuperM was great for the time that we had them. I got to see my fave live. They deserved more respect than what was given to them. I still remember that Apple interview. Fans act like their words don’t hurt, but actually they do. SuperM should the reality of how KPop fans actually act towards their faves. SuperM will always hold a fun place for me.
@4everbaseone10 ай бұрын
Most of you in these comments are haters fr😭 superM was THAT group. A lot of you saying they had generic music are NOT listening to their songs cause no way. I also disagree with him saying 100 wasn’t memorable cause it was.
@katie592010 ай бұрын
How is their songs different from what a lot of guy groups are putting out?
@hanbaebummie321510 ай бұрын
I think super M is good but I prefer them in there original groups >.>, even so it is sad that the group is not there anymore the new CEO sucks.
@AlexaOleksa10 ай бұрын
15:08 79 thousand tickets? That's it? You tell me fans from three groups didn't want to see their faves live during covid? I gues a lot of people used illeagal streams, but damn that's low for the three groups tbh
@eileencritchley46309 ай бұрын
Oh gosh I didn't want to say it but I wondered if anyone else might notice and say something. Thank you for noticing the 'White Elephant in the corner of the Room'
@MsKaz100010 ай бұрын
The Super stands for S and the M stands for M as in SM entertainment and SM stands for Lee Soo-man mainly Soo-man it ain't that deep
@cheeryberrie10 ай бұрын
OH like sooper-man!
@MsKaz100010 ай бұрын
@@cheeryberrie that's DC, not Marvel 😁
@AlexaOleksa10 ай бұрын
11:40 sm sound...that is the problem, the attempt to get similar sound from the groups they are from...this is the most derivative thing you can do with sm groups, cause they already carry "signature sm sound"
@riomochi479810 ай бұрын
I didn't really connect with this group.. it was too much. I liked tiger though... The avengers of kpop was so cringe. I remember Ten,Mark, Lucas and TY jumping from one dance practice to another, they were so busy esp like mark with being in 3 schedules back to back and sometimes 4 when in a nctu schedule. The group would have caused a burnout to the main members. +++ I don't think the group would have lasted.
@treubaking10 ай бұрын
I don't think it was that big of a deal, SM wanted it to be a super group and I thought it was pretty cool. The thing with SM is that they try to force out these ideas without proper thinking. First of all, like you said. Mark is in basically every NCT unit except WayV. Ten was now doing two schedules. I loved the idea that the group was pushing, and I don't think they deserved the hate. I think they deserved the proper company.
@riomochi479810 ай бұрын
@@treubaking I get what you are saying. It's just that I didn't get the goal of the group.. even if they made it big it would have been strenuous for the nct members who were actively promoting then unlike exo members and shine, Also having too much talent in one group made some members not get utilised causing lots of solo stans to be grumpy. Every group needs room for growth and I wonder how theirs would have been, seeing these members were the most popular in their individual units. I feel like it would have caused a strain to their individual teams in the long run especially nct as a whole.Please note I didn't hate the group I just didn't like the structure so it was hard to click with it. Would love to hear more of your thoughts on it .
@treubaking10 ай бұрын
@@riomochi4798 Yes, I just came to this realization a few minutes after I sent that reply. I absolutely agree. I personally do believe SuperM could have made a hit in general, but SM did not think out the process. At the time Mark was running four schedules and the rest had atleast more than 2-3 It got me thinking how in the world were they gonna be alive in this group. Like literally. Too much talent: Imagine putting Serena Williams the best of tennis, Usain Bolt the best of track, Yuzuru Hanyu the best of ice skating. All in one Kpop groups. Too much talent in their own categories, putting them all together would definitely make a combust.. Thanks for enlightening me about this. I really did like SuperM’s concept.. the avengers theme. Now it seems like it would have never worked out considering SM would have had to either remove them from their original groups or reinstated an entire new concept for each member seemingly rewriting history.
@Lunachica100110 ай бұрын
The truth is sometimes members placed there for clout. Especially Ten and Kai... But since they are popular they had to be there, but for what reason??? And Lucas why was he there in the 1st place??? He is just a center, a pretty face (think it got to his head seeing how he ended up) but is an ok dancer and an okay rapper but the overall value to the group... Very little. I know for sure if they got too far their own solo stans would have brought their down fall. Some members were there for aesthetics... Still salty about Lucas.
@treubaking10 ай бұрын
That's interesting how you're "salty" about that when they never did anything to you?.. Everyone in SuperM is popular, and still talented.. so what're you talking about?@@Lunachica1001
@4everbaseone10 ай бұрын
I personally don’t like the title this person gave this video. He could’ve named it better but no hate to seb because it’s not on him. I am very upset with the fact that sm didn’t continue with superm after changing ceos. It’s fucked up that such a super group like this had to go to waste. This new ceo is terrible and is wrong for letting his personal opinion ruin such a good group. The only thing I can understand is the fact that exo members are going to the military, mark is busy with all the units, and on top of that taemin just left sm. So those things are understandable but they still should’ve done something with the group nonetheless. They ended the group at its peak.
@g100-w6j10 ай бұрын
superm avengers of kpop lmfaoooo its still funny now as it was back then when sm first announced that
@eileencritchley46309 ай бұрын
No no no it's not treating them as people it's treating them as commodities like cans of soup on a shelf it's disgusting. Would you like your company CEO to do that to you and your group if you were in a Kpop Group?
@DarkHarlequin9 ай бұрын
Taemin & Onew both left SM. Shinee as a group will stay with SM (at least for now while Key & Minho are still there) but this was a long time coming. Both Taemin & Onew had mentioned in the past that they would like to tour and do more international stuff and experiment more but SM put pretty strict limits on them. Plus Taemin has a history of seemingly not feeling treated will by SM. So with their old contracts expiring and Onew on hiatus and encouraging the other members to also think what they want from their future this was all but inevitable. Key with his broader solo focus (not just music but fashion variety shows etc.) is a little more locked to SM so he and Minho are staying for now. Nothing is confirmed yet although there are rumors Taemin might sign with 'Big Hit' (although just rumors). Onew still being on hiatus and radio silent hasn't announced anything yet. All we know is that he talked with the other members about this.
@eileencritchley46309 ай бұрын
I don't like LSM he treated them like dolls to play around with/like chest piece's on a board. He took them out of their groups which wasn't fare to their group members. Set them up as The Avengers of Kpop as if it required Avengers 'rolls eyes' Advertised them as a manly man all in black, doing action things only to debut them with a song called 'Jopping'. did he really think that would go down well with the USA public? He bought out 7 versions of the album so in order to push up album sales for the charts. So much media hype for what I feel really sorry for SuperM and the groups he snatched them from.
@AlexaOleksa10 ай бұрын
12:46 they got bb200 with sales, bit they never got other factors as streams enogh to break into hot 100. They had like 8 versions of album, like these days others like stray kids, 17 etc have to break all those records, but their streams are a joke
@texasteen10 ай бұрын
Yes!! We miss SuperM! We saw them in Ft Worth, Tx at their first concert and I will remember that experience forever!!
@dhrvnq10 ай бұрын
avengers of kpop:)
@wawahani10 ай бұрын
i love SuperM...
@Maria-he1db10 ай бұрын
Honestly I didn't care for Super M, they had some of the best vocalist and dancers and yet their songs (While good) were generic. I wanted something unique from "The Avengers of Kpop"
@AlexaOleksa10 ай бұрын
14:21 such technologies alreafy existed, specifically for sports live streams
@jughahaha061310 ай бұрын
I've heard of this group before, but not their songs. I'm curious. I just want to know what's the real reason for LSM's to make this group even though their own individual groups are doing just fine. Is there a hidden plan for this? Like, does he want to take over what BTS was doing back then? Don't want to offend someone and I don't have problem with the group, I'm just curious yk.
@rafaelsmith57376 ай бұрын
Greed
@Sjfyy_10 ай бұрын
Him blaming everything else except the main reason why they failed is so funny
@emmaecir10 ай бұрын
i miss superm every day :/
@ogkpopper10 ай бұрын
WAIT... When did Taemin left?!
@4everbaseone10 ай бұрын
He left like a few days ago I think I saw the article about it
@ogkpopper10 ай бұрын
@@4everbaseone so... He is not in SHINee anymore?
@kam-ku1sz10 ай бұрын
@@ogkpopper He is still in SHINee, but he will not promote as a soloist under SM
@Mariana_Zp10 ай бұрын
Taemin knows his worth!
@eleonorestuart408910 ай бұрын
Loved this group…miss them so much! All my faorites!❤❤❤❤❤❤
@rafaelsmith57376 ай бұрын
Avengers of Kpop? Avenge from who?
@AlexaOleksa10 ай бұрын
16:27 why it sounds like any other SM boy group? I would never tell them apart tbh
@Vinsmoke3ji10 ай бұрын
to be honest , i hate the idea of superm
@lasandrasweatt61388 ай бұрын
Naw they weren't good it was bubble gum, and took other famous kpop singers together and just hoped it would take off smh when it was not authentic or organic ir WILL NOT WORK it was childish.
@lasandrasweatt61388 ай бұрын
Yes, corny the Avengers of Kpop aka childish 🙄
@riomochi479810 ай бұрын
Was the naver beyond live formed when naver had a falling out with BTS causing hybe to start Werverse
@fernandavalenzuela143310 ай бұрын
SuperM was made to essentially compete with BTS in the western market, and failed. Overall it was poorly managed, and if they tried they could’ve done something but sm can’t do anything lmfao.
@ashyoyrus344110 ай бұрын
Oh my god not everything is about beating bts. The kpop industry existed before them and multiple Korean artists have promoted in the western market before they did. Please do your research and broaden your spectrum a bit. Yes bts are extremely popular and brought kpop forward in a lot of ways but assuming that any company making a project or a group is solely a part of some evil plan to compete with bts is completely delusional.
@amix44410 ай бұрын
be so for real… not everything is about bts. what did bts do in the western market before 2019?? they really got nothing to do with this. make it make sense…
@DancingRain_199710 ай бұрын
They literally were charting on billboard charts since 2015 you are just ignorant . @@amix444
@DancingRain_199710 ай бұрын
@@amix444 BTS was charting in American charts since 2015 .
@ashyoyrus344110 ай бұрын
@@DancingRain_1997 we're talking promotions. Not charts
@SukiSuki56210 ай бұрын
SuperM wasn’t going to catch BTS during that era. Momentum was height for BTS that created a huge shadow over SuperM.
@AlexaOleksa10 ай бұрын
They tried to "catch bts" with their "manly man" concept as opposite to bts 2019 boy with love era
@treubaking10 ай бұрын
I kinda hate it when people throw group's names that fail as if they did it to themselves. It was obviously SM's lousy, incompetent skillset. They tried to throw together the best of SM and it didn't work out because you CAN'T throw the best people together and expect them to thrive. Imagine throwing Yuzuru, the best ice skater, Serena Williams, and Usain bolt to make a K-POP group. It wasn't their concept, it wasn't BTS because it's clear nearly most of the groups who debuted in 2019/2020 actually hit the sky unlike them. It was whoever thought to do this. BTS aren't even the best of best members because they debuted with skillsets that weren't contributing to a group already.
@g100-w6j10 ай бұрын
Ohh they tried but as you said it was never gonna happen lol a lot of army said it back then including me and we were right. like the whole existence of this super group came from the wrong place and intentions only to compete with bts. like it was doomed from the start.
@g100-w6j10 ай бұрын
@@AlexaOleksa yupp so true. They tried to appel to america being "hard" being "macho" being the "avengers" (marvel was still going strong then) while the American gp r the first ones to sniff out anyone who isnt authentic and reject you right away. like these were dudes all from different groups who were forcefully put together in another group and while some of them r friends or get along they dont have that friendship/closeness as they would with their og members so it comes off very fake and manufactured (and it is). BTS were doing their own thing - growing, releasing the LY albums starting up the map of the soul series, charting with growing numbers on the bb200 and hot100, touring the US from the biggest arenas updating to stadiums which sell out for multiple days in just a couple of hours only growing bigger and bigger. They captured audiences with their amazing music and concerts, with their interviews where they r fun and friendly but also serious about their craft and love for music/performances, army promoted them and spread their music and art to even more people etc etc. Like something like that isnt happening for many years to come
@g100-w6j10 ай бұрын
@@treubaking sure bud
@deekay1310 ай бұрын
SuperM was a dud
@Zulkfa10 ай бұрын
hi Sebastián... im waiting for u to do reaction of lucas' documentary (freeze) only 2 youtubers did it so far... and u r a good reactor SO PLEASE DO IT !
@-JA-10 ай бұрын
🫢👍
@kww1010 ай бұрын
they wasted baekhyun and kai's time and it's crazy that they got taemin in too...he probs say yes bc his bestie is there. just wtf they thinking grouping ten kai taemin with fawk ass lcs
@eileencritchley46309 ай бұрын
Do you really think they were given any choice in the matter? They were told ordered they didn't get a say in it. They were treated like objects.
@fauna283610 ай бұрын
They're never coming back lol
@EverRoxas10 ай бұрын
Although it seems unlikely, time will tell for sure.
@fauna283610 ай бұрын
@@EverRoxas Taemin left SM. Baekhyun has his own company now and on SM only for EXO. What would the group do if they don't have those 2, Kai can't be carrying them
@7reasonsssssss10 ай бұрын
It was a cute attempt but they tried to make something to beat bts and failed.
@amix44410 ай бұрын
erm…
@Sooya1956h10 ай бұрын
Are you ok
@azurehickman752410 ай бұрын
Child it was never about BTS. Another delulu Army 🤣