What Happened To The ENTWIVES? | Middle Earth Lore

[@patrickheinz8466]

I have always fancied that the Entwives made their way into the Old Forest, it would explain two things... 1) why the Old Forest was so hostile 2) why the Land of the Shire had been so blessed agriculturally.

[@PhinAI]

... too much estrogen in The Old Forest?...

[@jakegamebred5871]

Always thought this too! Maybe only a small number though

[@MSinistrari]

In Lord of the Rings Online there's a hidden sidequest inside the Old Forest where you track down these special flowers where they whisper the name of an Entwife. It's suggested this band of Entwives merged with the forest to protect it.

[@patttrick]

The Hobbits are talking in a pub and a Hobbit says ,someone said they so a tree walking in the north downs, its before the Hobbits set off.

[@travisciha1773]

Farmer Maggot ftw

[@AshenDruid]

There's just too much to suggest that the Entwives either escaped north or were already there. The Shire is one big self-contained garden, and it's right next to a remnant of the forest that used to stretch all the way down to Fangorn. North is the one direction Treebeard doesn't mention checking. And Sauron didn't exactly have the best track record as far as not being sloppy, I have a really hard time believing he actually wiped the Entwives out, either accidently or on purpose. And they would probably adore the Hobbits, "children" who love and tend to the Shire, and who mostly tend to like keeping things as they are. As for what Hamfast saw, when do we ever hear of a huorn "walking"? Huorns are mostly stationary from what we see, and when they do move they don't really "walk", from the descriptions it really seems like they use their roots to slide through the ground almost, but Hamfast specifically said walking, apparently. I'm not saying they *couldn't* have become Huorns by the third age, probably lulled to sleep by the presence of the Hobbits, but probably not all of them.

[@Marsmuncher]

I think you might be on to something. Even in the text Treebeard brought up the topic of the Entwives when the hobbits were describing their land asking if they had seen them and mentioning that the Entwives would of liked the Shire. I know it's just conjecture but it wouldn't be the most absurd theory that some of the Entwives fled north and crossed the mountains to find somewhere safe for them the live and tend their gardens and the Shire could reasonably be described as a rather big garden.

[@slavj]

I think they were really wiped out. Although the forests were very expansive at one point, we need to consider that the Entwives liked to stay in a single area, whilst the Ents themselves were wanderers. Which means, if tragedy were to befall the Entwives, its a real possibility that it could wipe them out, where as if the same to occur to the Ents, there would likely be Ents in different locations. It is more likely that Hamfast saw an Ent, perhaps one that was searching for the Entwives, and had perhaps heard of the Shire.

[@Jess-kd7su]

Entwives: I wanna get married, settledown, build a forest and have Entlings. Ents: Nah, we have time.. Entwives: *Leaves* Ents: *shocked Pikachu face*

[@debbie4503]

😂

[@billduy5369]

I like to think that the Entwives did go west and wound up near the shire. In the beginning of The Fellowship of the Ring, Sam is talking to Ted Sandyman and others at the Green Dragon and talks about the rumors of "Tree-Men" up past the Northfarthing, he said his cousin even saw one going "7 yards to a stride" and said it was as big as an elm tree. It always made me sad that Sam didn't meet Treebeard and pass on the rumor

[@benstrutt124]

Me too I'm always so surprised that no one ever thought to mention to treebeard of the goings on in the woods near the shire

[@theharper1]

Didn't Sam meet Treebeard when the Fellowship travelled back to the Shire? I agree, I couldn't understand why Sam, having told the story in the pub, would not have mentioned it to Treebeard when he saw him.

[@debbie4503]

I like that too.

[@radicalcartoons2766]

Only just saw your comment, yes I think it could have been an Ent-wife too.

[@markb7913]

Of all Tolkien's legendarium, the plight of the ents has always struck me as the most melancholic. Yavanna's children doomed to genocide by the last alliance. The symbology speaks for itself, and I am aggrieved by it. In a fancy of hope I imagine the entwives took the long way round to Valinor. Perhaps a few survived, maybe in the Shire, perhaps the ruim of Beleriand, or in the Southern and Eastern regions of middle-earth as yet undiscovered by men and forgotten by the elves and ents.

[@samdegoeij6576]

You mean they walked around on the Helkaraxhe (sorry if I spelled it wrong).

[@markb7913]

@@samdegoeij6576 yup

[@romanplays1]

in LOTR online. apparently one actually managed to reach the old forest. as theres a sidequest of you collecting flowers that whisper her name.

[@markb7913]

@@romanplays1 is that canon? Asking because I've never played

[@romanplays1]

@@markb7913 as far as i know. no. but its nice to think about.

[@shanepatrick4534]

This puts a whole new meaning on the term "tree hugger".

[@robertgross1655]

🎩Hi. That used to be my job. Measuring the size of trees. I was a tree hugger.

[@PrayingWarfare]

What happened to Radagast The Brown during lord of the rings? They sent envoys to Radagast house before the journey. But he wasn't present there.

[@yayayayaya2834]

I like to think that most of the ent wives were wiped out but then Yavanna found a way to save the rest by either hiding them in middle earth where Sam's uncle saw them OR placed in an uncharted area of Middle earth. Either way another great video!

[@SnkrPrince]

Treebeard: We lost the Entwives. Pippin Took: Oh, I'm sorry. How did they die? Treebeard: Die? No. We lost them, and now we cannot find them. So sad and solem!

[@debbie4503]

I was trying to remember if it was Merry or Pippin who said that to Tree Beard. Thank you. ☺️

[@Enerdhil]

My head canon about the Entwives is: They escaped south of Fangorn Forest and went into Eriador where they found a secluded place, north of the Shire, near Lake Evendim. In a twist of fate, i.e. Iluvatar's Grace, King Elessar traveled to Fornost to declare himself King of the combined Kingdoms of Gondor and Arnor. After that, it is recorded that King Elessar went to Annuminas and spent some time there. It is during this time that I think King Elessar found the Entwives in the midst of a beautiful garden the likes of which had never been seen outside of Valinor. I think he would have kept it secret and put a guard up there to keep people away. And on his way back to Minas Tirith, he could stop in Isengard and give Treebeard directions to where the Entwives were. Some of the Ents would live near the lake with their wives and some of the Entwives would live with their husbands in Isengard, making it a beautiful garden surrounding the black tower. King Elessar forbid people from entering Isengard, so this sorry never saw the light of day. The Ents were rewarded for their bravery in saving the Free Peoples of Middle Earth. A miracle that only Eru Iluvatar could perform.

[@radicalcartoons2766]

I love this episode. Do you remember the bit where Sam is talking in The Green Dragon ( chapter: The Shadow of The Past) and he says a cousin of his saw a "Tree-man, a Giant" beyond the North Moors, while hunting? I suspect that some of the Ent-wives were still around. And when Merry and Pippin meet Treebeard, he says "they would like your country"...

[@Zack-tx7oz]

The entwives are possibly alive! Check the Quora post by Pip about his grandfather who met Tolkien. Tolkien pinpointed a very specific spot, near Rhun. Hope lives!!

[@shadowofchaos8932]

East of Dol Guldor, in a cave lined with iron and metal are cages. In the 3 year of the Fourth age a spell faded uncovering the last of the Entwives enslaved by Sauron. Radagast discovering the scene rushes for aid to the elves and men of Rohan. 7 of 12 cages have living survivors of ages of torture. With confirmation of Surviving Entwives, a company of Ents with Huorn escort race across the Riddermark to rescue the survivors. After 30 years of 'first-aid', the Ents escort the last of the Entwives to Fangorn Forest.

[@alfredoreliford8501]

Thanks shadow!

[@mojosbigsticks]

Yavanna scooped them up and took them away to Valinor, where they grow all things in peace and light.

[@rangerofthenorth1970]

I think that most of them were destroyed, but I love to belive that some of them survived and hide in the uncharted place's in Middleearth! James another great video as always.....just keep going, cant wait for 100k subs!!!!!

[@TheBrokenSword]

Thank you! And same here! Hopefully before the end of the month :D

[@juniusluriuscatalus6606]

As I read the books when I was a kid I thought they probably just had become one with their gardens, as Treebeard described how some ents had become more treelike and ent-wives had always been more settled while ents were wandering - which kind of fits well with traditional women at home men at hunt -culture. I've found it hard to see it any other way, no matter how convincing the arguments are. Many things grow strong, when they are stuck in the childhood, I guess.

[@Whispyr3]

A quote from the movie contact sums it up… The universe is a pretty big place. It's bigger than anything anyone has ever dreamed of before. So if it's just us... seems like an awful waste of space. They’ve settled in some of the unknown regions most likely and are doing well?

[@ermagerrd7095]

I DO think the Entwives live on. Like mentioned, the Shire is exactly the kind of place they’d love. And I think it likely a few escaped the brown lands to come dwell within the ‘ sparse’ forests around there. 👍🏻

[@Huskytabby]

What-if video idea for you to do: What if Gandalf never fell at the Bridge of Khazad-dum and continued with the Fellowship to Lothlorien and forward?

[@nightshadehelis9821]

Oh, that's a good one.

[@jameswoodard4304]

It seems from the letters that the ents represent the woods while the wives represent agricultural bounty. If they were not actively killed off, then the fate of individual wives would presumably mirror that of ents. While ents essentially went feral and turned into wild trees until they disappeared into the greenwoods, the wives would presumably have become more and more tamed until they were absorbed into the fields, gardens, and orchards of men.

[@generaluser5378]

The Ents seem to be a very changeable people. Ents live in the forests and, as times go by, they are becoming more and more "tree-like." There's a theory that the Ent-wives are also very changeable but, because the Ent-wives lived in gardens, they became more and more "human-like" as time went by. After thousands of years, perhaps the two halves of these people have changed so much and in such different directions, that even if they did find each other again, they would no longer recognize each other.

[@brittneysebo1991]

Good lord u just broke my heart even more at the possibility of that actually being the case if they did find each other

[@sirnerdalot1995]

I've always thought that the ent-wives became more flower/field-plant like.

[@TitanSummers]

If you are correct could the Ent Wives have become Hobbit like. They seem to enjoy the same things and when meeting the Ents they seem to get along.

[@davidkelly1298]

I would like to think the Entwives escaped the forces of Sauron and are tending their gardens somewhere.

[@sandralynnrichter666]

I am new to this wonderful world and very ignorant on these topics but my heart tells me that the ent wives live on because they were strong to begin with. And I truly believe that anything that has the capability to love has the capability to survive anything. They loved and protected so much I am quite certain that what they protected, nurtured and loved, in some way protected them from Extinction. (If they were dead wouldn't there be fossils of some sort proving it?)

[@SkeletorsSon]

I wish someone would make LOTR War In The North into a movie, that game was awesome back in the day

[@MikeTheD]

I wish someone would build me an army worthy of Mordor.

[@francisdesouza5372]

I still love that game!

[@Captaindc1214]

I think the ent wives are in the old Forrest with tom bombadill. Maybe he is protecting them by keeping their presence there a secret. Maybe frodo and the gang were getting close to thier location as they walked through the old Forrest and that is why the trees were attempting to move them in a different direction. Frodo eventually ran into old man willow and was saved by Tom. Sam even gave a report of a sighting of a walking tree in the shire. Maybe it was an ent wife.

[@jamiegregg9211]

awesome vid James as always i think they fled east and rebuilt their gardens

[@antr7493]

I'm listening to phil dragash's audiobook performance of lord of the rings . I just got to the part when Treebeard talks about them with Merry and Pip. A great way to experience all the books again.

[@PhinAI]

Of all the mysteries Tolkien left in Middle Earth, the mystery of the Ent-wives strikes me most deeply. I envision a short-story describing the destruction of the Entings and Ent-wives, wherein, perhaps one or more wives escape with Enting(s), or perhaps, seed is entrusted to some entity on a wife's death-bed. As seed takes root in unexpected locations, so might it be with an Enting, somewhere. Also, it could be, that, just in time, Yavanna renews and re-gifts her creation to complete the Ents, once again. Tolkien may well have intentionally left this glaring question open just to inspire mankind to give pause in his wanton exercise(s) against nature which may yield consequences too tragic to be undone.

[@MikeTheD]

Yes I think Tolkien left us to ruminate about the probable outcome, without being a complete downer. I think friendly fellow travelers who knew of the Ents would have found the Entwives after all that time, and told the Ents. But we never know, and yes it's the best option to decide for ourselves, and to hope.

[@manialexander2478]

I imagined the party tree was a sleeping entwife.

[@patricklacey4946]

I think Tolkien was very smart and left enough room to say some of the Entwives may have escaped, and that works for any story. The "last" or "few remaining" works for any story, not too many, not too few, and gives the fan and future writers rooms to operate.

[@written_by_hank]

I feel like the majority of them were destroyed, but there’s always the possibility of a few of them being able to escape and grow some secret gardens; much like how the skin changers were thought to be extinct, but Beorn was able to survive and thrive for a long time. That’s just my thoughts, though.

[@fidazaman3155]

treebired also mentioned that they even forgotten how Entwives look like. If they can't remember how can any other remember or what to look for?

[@MikeTall88]

Well..they know they are looking for walking and talking female trees, or any walking and talking tree.

[@silmarilion2667]

This is def one of the sadder stories. If only saruman hadn't turned, I'd like to think he would've helped look for them or even radagast. Hopefully they just kinda pushed so far east they went hiding in plain sight or just went south past harad.

[@shantshafwhaanjulius]

I'm such a big fan of the Ents i love the thinking of trees being alive and guardians of the forest 💚

[@leonardocruz3392]

Ask Tom bombadil... I'm sure he knows a thing or two! 🤣

[@kal6351]

As with all thinking beings, there must be differing opinions in a group. While I can agree that most entwives defended their gardens to their death or enslavement, I must think some, perhaps no more than a few handful, who would have fled. Perhaps they are in the Old Forest like some suggested, though I find that unlikely as they would have likely passed closely to the Ent. And I can't imagine they would not seek help. The north is more of Sauron's forces, so that's not likely. That left East or South. I think South is the most likely direction, as I had always imagine the East to be darkened by Sauron's influence. I suppose one can argue that they made a long way around and ended up in the Old Forest, but then Tom or Goldberry would know, wouldn't they? There are many folklore of mysterious woods in the world, it would not take much leap of imagination to think they are caused by the last remnant of Ents or perhaps those few Entwives that escaped. :-)

[@nicholaspowell2076]

I like to think that some of the Entwives survived and that some of them would at least be reunited, even for a time

[@degozako]

As the others have mentioned, I like to think that some entwives have fled north, taken refuge in/near the Shire. The Shire is mainly agricultural and very peaceful.

[@JP-uf9sh]

It is very likely that most of the entwives died but then again some might have managed to escape or move away before tragedy struck. I like the idea of treebeard romantazing the entwives. The ents are in love with the past and what their wives used to be like - much like we like to attach outselves to ideas or perfect memories. When in truth what we remember or envision has already changed with time. I like to think the remaining entwives changed with the land and people around them so much that the ents no longer recognized them. And by searching for their beloved memory they could not find them in the present and future because what they sought for had become fundamentally different. Maybe the entwives has become so much like the garden and the meadows they kept they actually became more human or hobbit like - depending where they settled down and lived amongst them so closely they would not have been recognized as such by many. Thus the ents getting no real direction where they might be because the people who actually knew what an entwive looked like did not recognize the description the ents themselves gave to them in the present.

[@Zoopster1]

If any Entwives were captured and enslaved, many would likely have found themselves put in charge of the fields around the inland Sea of Nurnen, in southeastern Mordor.

[@christophercorrell4525]

I always liked to think that the Entwives would return to eventually turn Gorgoroth into their new gardens. Ah well.

[@deansch6089]

Treebeard left the toilet seat up.

[@SuperZekethefreak]

When the Entwives left Entwood (Fangorn), they traveled south, following the Entwade river down into Rohan. The Entwade eventually follows the White Mountains with many settlements of men, so they turned south east at Entwash and forded the Anduin, which is why Treebeard followed this same path when looking for them. To the east were the Living Marshes, where they dwelled for a time until war turned them into the Dead Marshes,. Where did they flee? Not to the east where evil lands bordering the lands of the eastern men, dark elves and orcs and no great forests were to be found. Not to the west, for how to cross the White Mountains and why go into the densely populated regions beyond? The only place the Entwives could flee was south east, FOLLOWING THE ANDUIN between Mordor and Gondor!!!! They would have followed the Mountains of Mordor and skirted the eastern edge of Harondor - at that time South Gondor. Instead of turning south into the deserts of Hardowaith, they followed the southern ridge of the Mordor Mountains that traveled west-east, skirting the northern boundary of Khand. If they brave the journey south, there is a major river system separating these lands from the kingdoms of Haruzan and Pezarsan, but beyond is the great empty Dune Sea and no rivers flow there. If they somehow made it all the way south, there the southern Pillar once stood, of the Moon I think, and there are lush forests with no humanoids along the entire southern coast. But the Entwives are described as having wheat-colored everything, and I believe they would have been inexorably drawn to the vast forest that lays to the south-east. If they follow the eastern boundary of Khand, there are north-south mountains and so they turn south, through the gap they are now in Lurmsakun and then Arysis. Going east, they find wheat-colored marshes and vast forests. This is a literal forest highway that goes to the far north and far west of the continent. I believe it is here that the Entwives traveled, for the grains of other fauna of the land closely match their own wheatish colors and here they will be left alone for millennia.

[@mag_lore]

I'm guessing some of them managed to survive, and either went north (the Shire) or east, and gradually became more tree like as the years passed. Does anyone know if any Ents or Entwives ever lived in Aman? I find it odd that Yavana would want all of them in Middle Earth, but then again, since there were no dwarves in Valinor, there was no real need for them there.

[@RythymBeast]

Great vid my friend.

[@Skepticfornow]

I have always loved the idea of ents! 💚

[@40yearoldbrony]

All of Tolkiens stories break my heart. I like to believe that some Entwives survived and that out there some Entings happened. We need our fairy tales when they disappear it just hurts us.

[@jubalvw3302]

I really do want to hear about the interaction between dwarves and ents in the first age!

[@Jayjay-qe6um]

I hoped the Entwives will make an appearance to the upcoming TV series.

[@imaginemyshock8067]

As much as I like the idea of the Entwives being somewhere near the Shire, the main problem I have with this is that the Rangers would know all that area very well, and if Entwives were there they'd know about it. And Aragorn would know, too. Yet at his last meeting with Treebeard it was clear he had no idea where they might be.

[@JackiSins]

I have been looking forward to this.

[@Big-D-B]

Treebeard be like : Where that Entussy 🥵🥵🥵

[@seandawson5899]

I wonder hundreds of years from now if people will look at LOTR like we look at "Oddessy"

[@tonicastel5933]

Sure of it. It’s the Iliad & Odyssey of our times. It’ll be held up as one of the greatest contributions of our civilizations, still read when Man travels among the stars.

[@Gothranger-l3k]

Short answer nobody knows and this video can't answer the question still an interesting and informative videa thank you

[@nathaniellong4281]

Given both races had immortality, why did the Ents and Entwives have no desire for offspring, but the Elves did?

[@magecraft2]

Was there not a map that JRR Tolkien had written a possible location for entwives? May have been someone on twitter but I believe it was (after they checked with their dad who went to talk to JRR with this map he had created) near the Sea of Rhun, however he did write "may" I think it was but if so why bother :)

[@robertherring9277]

Great video!

[@TheBrokenSword]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@dimitrisnikoloulis4071]

All Ent - Wives to be slained... macabre but possible. To be alive in other place , also possible. The answer is , what we want to believe. The light scenario or the dark one. Damn that rhetoric mystery , makes Tolkien , to be a genious world builder. Outstanding genious. ❤

[@randelrobbins1408]

I take the song as a prophecy. Therefore, I believe that some survived and a reunion eventually happened someday even if it was very small in number.

[@harperj72]

Could some of them have made it to Valinor?

[@richardsales6996]

Ive got a question where abouts on the middle earth map where is the oaf breakers road and mountain of evil ?

[@JosephStAubin-od5id]

I think most where destroyed maybe one or two got away but having to flee would make the entwifes very upset and they probably became treeish with a hastyness

[@Stnkynuggz1252]

I love this channel

[@ifailedmywillsave]

I had always hoped that Halfast's "tree man" was an entwife. It just seemed too dark and hopeless in a story that is, frankly, rather dark and often hopeless (though I love it to bits), to have had them completely wiped out. Given how slowly the entings grow, however, it's also entirely possible that this was an enting of a very young and quick-blooded nature that, when they heard that the armies were coming, the entwives sent away in hopes of preserving their children. I like the idea that any entings of the time scattered in all directions, and one (or more) made their way to the Shire, helping with the richness of the fields and strength of the forests. (If so, it would also play interestingly with the difference between the hobbits entering the Dark Forest and the elves walking through the woods whom the hobbits meet in the Shire.)

[@bluesdoggg]

I don’t believe that not a single one of the Ent Wife’s survived, so maybe some did carry on somewhere else.

[@markpeirson7832]

Always thought it was weird in books at the end "are you going to look for the ent wives?". And pretty bluntly. "No they are gone". What happened maybe a domestic situation

[@whitleypedia]

I would just go ask Tom Bombadil

[@woodsandcreek7589]

The ent-wives escaped the wrath of Sauron. They preferred order, and consistency-in-place. They would have uncovered various hidden spaces and safety havens throughout their long lives. Old and new information was probably shared/ communicated through their root systems.

[@danielled8665]

I always assumed the Entwives were the source of Trolls, as nothing in Tolkien can be created by evil, only corrupted. Trolls seemed to have some in common with Ents in their size and power, and like entwives in their weathered appearance. They are connected with the earth in a way, being stone-like and related to terrain, being cave-trolls, hill-trolls, mountain-trolls. Maybe even a dark mingling of Orc and Entwife, as Orcs were combined with Men in the time of the War of the Ring. It would explain why it was never said explicitly by Tolkien, as dark corruptions such as that are usually implied and hinted at, rather than outright said.

[@terrystewart1973]

Endless speculation is possible here. For example, did all the ents from the First Age move to Fanghorn Forest, and if so why there? We know they were in Beleriand, so at one point they must have been very widespread. And if it was a huorn that was spotted near the Shire, were there once ents living in the Old Forest, that had simply become tree-like by the end of the Third Age. If there were ents living in other places in Middle-Earth then why not ent wives living in other places than the lands that Sauron burnt? The ents seem to be spirits of the woods and forests, whilst the ent wives are more spirits of field and hedgerow. And what's near the Old Forest? Why, the Shire, a land very much of fields and hedgerows and farmlands. An ordered land, that the ent wives would have appreciated. Perhaps there were once ent wives there, who helped the migratory hobbits settle down, but who became treeish in their own rights here as well, and were forgotten by the hobbits, maybe only surviving in hobbit folklore and fairy stories. Tolkien of course never says anything like this, but you can have your own head canons about such things.

[@xxvavyguy4457]

Sadly I have come to the conclusion, after hearing this story and much reading, that Sad Treebeard is/was searching in vain. The fact he found an area abandoned/burned as the story goes makes me think Souron did indeed use a "scorched earth" policy thus catching the Entwives in the destruction. And Treebeard having looked elsewhere with no success, the only explanation that I think fits along the storyline is that the Entwives had indeed perished at Sourons hand. It IS sad that such a noble character as Treebeard would end up forever alone.

[@mikkel2241]

They left with the hobbits. either when the hobbits first left or before the battle of the last alliance as the army travelled south down the anduin (the hobbits seing their peril, took pity in them and turned around to bring them to a safe place. this would also support the statement that the elves where the only race to not fight on both sides, in the sense that the hobbits who didnt take pity on the entwives where seen as evil/against their own nature) . The only reason i truly believe this is becouse the hobbits are the only peeps who actually has some lore about the entwives after the battle of the last alliance.

[@mikkel2241]

this would also explain why Sauron dosnt know about hobbits, even thougt every race was present in the battle of the last alliance. The "good hobbits turned around to save the ent wives, and those who didnt turn around where "evil in the sense they betrayd their nature" and therefor every race was present in the battle of the last alliance, atleast in spirit.

[@mikkel2241]

beside that, look at the sire and the rest of middle earth. its litterally the only to easy to farm for their own good place in middle earth.

[@kenhammscousin4716]

Do you think the entwives had nice trimmed bushes? Or did they go for more of a 70s vibe

[@toddfeather5760]

I think most of ent wives perished due to sauron destroying their lands but a few managed to escape north and eastwards to safety and a few may returned to ents in distant future to create some ent babies

[@hudsonb631]

There are def a few left just very far away

[@cnacma]

Ever since reading about them I’ve always wanted to see what the entwives’s gardens looked like at their fullest. I’ve always loved plants and gardening and I just imagine the incredible beautiful land and growth of the gardens they maintained. Tolkien never goes into much detail so I’ve always had to imagine it.

[@Whiskeey666]

probably the same place orc and dwarf spirits go when they die, the answer to whatever or not balrogs have wings and the blue wizards are

[@MKomortasS]

I feel the entwives went to the undying lands

[@istari0]

I suspect they all died although I also think it very possible Sauron did capture some and use them to help teach his slaves around the Sea of Núrnen agriculture. But afterwards I doubt Sauron would have any use for beings closely linked to Yavanna.

[@DrowChyld]

This idea has been in my mind, fondly, since I was a teen and I am in my 40s now. With all your research I just refuse to change my mind. I HAVE ALWAYS THOUGHT a FEW were in the old forest. The Shire is a type of magical land like no other blessed to give high yield crops and grow the finest in all of known Middle Earth. It always seemed logical to me that the ents were very... timid? Reclusive? Males are much more outgoing typically females so I'd wager that the wife's wood (forgive the pun) have stayed in the Old Forest. In my mind, Old Man Willow was like a crimelord of sorts. A Huron (or however it's spelled) that was full of hate and was jealous of things outside so kind of enslaved the ent wives to tend his own lands. He was, after all, quite powerful and bent the trees to his malice. Without any proper ent MALES, the trees that had woken up were too wild for the wives to control, and we know they were not concerned with tending trees. I always saw the Shire as a byproduct of the entwives.

[@brycekleinschmidt438]

It's pretty obvious they're in the Shire. Even Treebeard thought so.

[@danepatterson8107]

If the elves know of no Ent-wives, then surely there must be none.

[@88Bornean]

Usually Treeman always in fairy land. But no any fairies on LOTR

[@Endme264]

Most likely killed when sauron went on his tantrum in the second age

[@thatlewisturner]

It's a shame that we know the ents will eventually die out because they lost their wives.

[@SkeletorsSon]

They lost their roots 😆

[@petervlcko4858]

They do not have to you could take branch and clone new one

[@quitwastinmytime]

Correction: Hal was Sam's cousin. Hal's father Hal was Sam's uncle.

[@TheFitzy93]

I believe Tolkien would of brought a second coming of the Entwives yet weren’t given the chance. Personally they were likely eliminated but who knows right?!! If nature thrives then it lives on.

[@davenonnenberg]

I just got done watching the Barrow-weight vid... and had a horrible thought. What if the Entwives became the Barrow-Weights. The Ents and Entwives certainly love the sun.

[@nancyward4174]

I think the entwives went somewhere and grew there special gardens. My reason is that there are new species being discovered all the time in our world ; so why not in Arda.

[@rickyjohnson7308]

I think there was at least one ent wife near the shire.

[@dontcare5998]

You could say the lack of procreation was the root cause of the problem.

[@isaackim7675]

You are right, young Hobbit. It was not efficient. This is a Fish-Ent! (Shows Fish-Ent)

[@johnathonlutz5427]

I AM GROOT!

[@petervlcko4858]

AaaaaaaaaaaaaaAaaaaaaaaaAh

[@chrissibersky4617]

I think Tom Bombadill used them as firewood.

[@doominator4072]

They could have been corrupted into the first trolls or at least the breed of troll that could survive sunlight.

[@dancooke8811]

They got bored and walked away then became trolls

[@theMyouknow]

Everyone knows that the Entwives Barked to much and had to leaf.

[@yodaslovetoy]

They got fed up with making ent-sandwiches and doing ent-housework

[@fungi5923]

So they went and got a root elsewhere

[@isaackim7675]

More like pruned up

[@elizabethanne8729]

🤣🤣🤣

[@DOSHIELD]

Intriguing. Never considered the enslavement of Entwives. A horrific thought, but it would make sense if that happened.

[@RissaFirecat]

Entwines are in the forest near the hobbits. That’s what I got from the Fellowship.