What happened with me and Apple

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Jon Rettinger

Jon Rettinger

2 жыл бұрын

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I've been reviewing tech on KZbin for over a decade now, and a lot has happened since those early days on KZbin. Today I'm sharing the story that few know - here's the story of why I no longer attend Apple keynotes or get access to review devices.
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@jon4lakers
@jon4lakers 2 жыл бұрын
Man, really appreciate the comments and support around this video. I sat on this story for so long, it feels great to get it out. One thing I ask is, don't evaluate any other content creators through the lens of this story. Everyone has their own experiences, these are just mine.
@dihartnell
@dihartnell 2 жыл бұрын
THanks for sharing, I think you should have put this story out at the time it happened.
@bacnorleans
@bacnorleans 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing
@puresynergyflo
@puresynergyflo 2 жыл бұрын
At the end of this road we call life, you won’t regret honest and integrity. But you likely would’ve regretted exchanging both for access to being with the “cool” kids. Keep up the good work. Seen your videos often but just subscribed after watching this.
@ToothSIayer
@ToothSIayer 2 жыл бұрын
Can we get the Aaron Baker story?
@sammysalter
@sammysalter 2 жыл бұрын
>don't evaluate any other creators through the lens of this story Can I ask why? Surely that is the implication of this - that apple rep behaved so despicably that it must have been normal, and so other creators must have cowed to him in similar circumstances
@snazzy
@snazzy 2 жыл бұрын
Pretty bananas but entirely unsurprising. I’ve heard from multiple friends about my blacklisted status without ever having spoken to anyone at Apple ever.
@puresynergyflo
@puresynergyflo 2 жыл бұрын
Keep up the good work Snazzy. It’s honest thorough reviews from guys like you and Jon that I value way more than the desperate have-to-be-first types.
@MrB8boy
@MrB8boy 2 жыл бұрын
Wow didn't know you were blacklisted even after taking apart the iPhone repair equipment. Sorry to hear that!
@XInfinity2024
@XInfinity2024 2 жыл бұрын
@@MrB8boy I would take a guess and say you get blacklisted for making Hackintosh videos alone but that is just a guess.
@BinarySmurf
@BinarySmurf 2 жыл бұрын
@@XInfinity2024 I can see where you're coming from but given that I think Hackintoshes would be way less than 1% of the install base... I'm not sure why Apple would care too much.
@venom5809
@venom5809 2 жыл бұрын
Damn, they blacklisted you too? Jesus.
@akapeegly6463
@akapeegly6463 2 жыл бұрын
i remember every single day after school as a 14 year old, i would open technobuffalo just to see new tech, even at school! crazy to think u were struggling to get your hands on product yet we never lacked quality content, and tbh im so greatful for the childhood u gave me
@jon4lakers
@jon4lakers 2 жыл бұрын
🙏🙏🙏
@lybnychavez6953
@lybnychavez6953 6 ай бұрын
How crazy to think that was over 5 years ago
@dannywinget
@dannywinget 2 жыл бұрын
Did you get another phone call after THIS video went live? 🤣
@BixelRo
@BixelRo 2 жыл бұрын
have anyone here something from him since this video? PR might go to the next level.
@JonathanRootD
@JonathanRootD 2 жыл бұрын
Jon might get saudied 😂
@ZAKtalksTECH
@ZAKtalksTECH 2 жыл бұрын
I'm not really surprised at how you were treated. Apple likes to control the narrative. Always has. I'm glad you shared this story. Makes you more trustworthy, in my opinion.
@AceLuceroTech
@AceLuceroTech 2 жыл бұрын
#salute
@legochicano
@legochicano 2 жыл бұрын
Explains why some tech reviewers are so cringe because they want to keep their relationship. Thanks John.
@Goaltimer
@Goaltimer 2 жыл бұрын
I think those PR programs as talked about in this video didn’t exist as long as Jobs was in charge.
@Devo_gx
@Devo_gx 2 жыл бұрын
You’re exactly right Zak! I’ve always felt a hesitation in some people’s previews and reviews of Apple products, and quite often they’re the ones who get the devices early from Apple. I do like my iPhone and MacBook Air M1, but they are by no means perfect, and people need to know that.
@jon4lakers
@jon4lakers 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you man!
@geraldpolymath
@geraldpolymath 2 жыл бұрын
Now you know why iJustine always gets stuff because she just smiles and tells you how great the device is.
@anublsunder
@anublsunder 2 жыл бұрын
So true
@HazeTechHD
@HazeTechHD 2 жыл бұрын
That’s her entire brand. Without Apple she wouldn’t have had a career…can’t trust a lot of reviews.
@vindifrenzy1100
@vindifrenzy1100 2 жыл бұрын
@@HazeTechHD Very true she is a slave in the apple ecosystem cult. If she criticized apple she won’t get as many apple products as she has now.
@hennessylieu
@hennessylieu 2 жыл бұрын
iJustime just bland review, I got bored watch her artificial smile, hype or fake excited.
@HigherQualityUploads
@HigherQualityUploads 2 жыл бұрын
Frankly I don't think she's faking it. She just has that vibe where she never likes to criticize anyone or anything, whether it be an Apple product or something else.
@furn2313
@furn2313 2 жыл бұрын
You know you are fair an unbiased when a company throws a tantrum because you were being honest.
@CreatedTech
@CreatedTech 2 жыл бұрын
I've never understood why Apple does this. They send early-access devices to "hand-picked" channels that almost always give positive reviews. But, just 12 hours later the products are released to the public anyway, and the "blacklisted" channels upload tear-down videos or showcase major issues/negative things etc. I really wish Apple would just send products out to everyone and let them say or do whatever they want. From a consumer's point of view, I don't trust reviews from those who get the early access products. They clearly fit into Apple's agenda which is why they are sent the products in the first place. Anyway, sucks that this happened to you. I remember watching Apple content on this channel way back in the early 2010s. Although, as you said in the video, it's likely a blessing in disguise because you can say whatever you want about Apple now!
@NeilLavitt
@NeilLavitt 2 жыл бұрын
Cheap marketing/advertising - beautiful unboxing videos that make the products look awesome that hit the recommended channels. iJustine is the best case in point - all the iMac colours in one video.
@HAFBeast91
@HAFBeast91 Жыл бұрын
I normally wait for a couple reviewers I trust.
@erikh1041
@erikh1041 Жыл бұрын
Agreed, it would also help apple make better products if people actually got to complain about them as well
@shadex3736
@shadex3736 Жыл бұрын
@@HAFBeast91 I wait for Marque Brownlee.
@evacody1249
@evacody1249 Жыл бұрын
I will tell you why they don't. Because they have a fear of channels like Gamers Nexus, Paul's Hardware, Jayztwocents, and Hardware Unboxed who will be up front and say of a product is good or bad. They all point out the same thing to they are there for the consumer and don't give a damn about hurting major tech companies feelings. Sure they like ASUS but if ASUS messes up which they did with one of the new Intel motherboards they were called out. ASUS got mad at them. Well to bad ASUS they are there looking out for the consumer.
@garciabyron218
@garciabyron218 2 жыл бұрын
While I agree that having a relationship with a manufactures probably makes thing easier, in the end, being true and honest about your content is more important. Especially to you audience. Been watching you since the jon4lakers days and I’ll probably keep watching until you stop making videos
@bk2les
@bk2les 2 жыл бұрын
@@mariacheebandidos7183 lol how'd you come up with that conclusion?
@mikeyross369
@mikeyross369 2 жыл бұрын
@@mariacheebandidos7183 its the momentum trying to be more convincing. Do you think hell tell us the whole story why he was blacklisted? there are other youtubers like MKBHD who criticise Apple sometimes is not blacklisted.
@OXIR
@OXIR 2 жыл бұрын
@@mikeyross369 MKBHD is like one of the biggest tech KZbinrs with most influence. It would be Apple’s loss too if they blacklisted him. But I think even though he makes a few criticisms, he generally talks positive about Apple. Not saying talking negative is a must, of course. But we can say that he doesn’t criticize them as much where it’s important.
@novadon4729
@novadon4729 Жыл бұрын
@@mikeyross369 MKBHD certainly doesn't criticize Apple. If at all, he is obsessed with Apple over any other brands. Sure he might say a few things which he doesn't like, for instance, he would prefer Apple to give us 120 refresh rates. But he would never address any issues that might affect customers purchase of apple products like the recent camera stutter issues and several bugs issues
@WHATSINSIDEFAMILY
@WHATSINSIDEFAMILY 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing. Yes start working on that book! Would love to hear the BTS of this crazy job that is KZbinrs.
@TheOnlyName
@TheOnlyName 2 жыл бұрын
Why hello there Dan! Happy birthday btw :)
@huntno
@huntno 2 жыл бұрын
No way Dan is here, I hardly watch this channel (John's channel) lol
@AuthenTech
@AuthenTech 2 жыл бұрын
We appreciate the transparency and honesty. It’s very unfortunate when these companies think they have more control than they actually do.
@1337Superfly
@1337Superfly 2 жыл бұрын
We really see how much control they really have. No way to trust those early reviews. Whole Apple scene is probably the most infected as well.
@gerard7417
@gerard7417 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly
@sabni8668
@sabni8668 2 жыл бұрын
Well, they do don’t they
@Flash363
@Flash363 2 жыл бұрын
@@sabni8668 only if you succumb and roll over for them, which many reviewers are doing
@TechOutAdam
@TechOutAdam 2 жыл бұрын
You're not obligated to use their products especially being a tech channel. Shut up and buy. Seriously, no one told you to make a career doing this lol
@einsp227
@einsp227 2 жыл бұрын
Been following you from the beginning and I've always respected what you do and I respect you even more now. You should never ever let a company dictate what you do and you've always stayed true to what you do.
@user-bc7wb2tm1c
@user-bc7wb2tm1c 2 жыл бұрын
@b11480
@b11480 2 жыл бұрын
Makes sense as to why so many tech KZbinrs suck up to apple and won't say anything bad about them. Pretty interesting story.
@warfare112593
@warfare112593 2 жыл бұрын
Not all of them. MKBHD says his honest thoughts. Tailosive Tech as well I guess
@braskabani8011
@braskabani8011 2 жыл бұрын
Is true. Almost all of them do. Is crazy. The only youtuber on earth that keep it real is flossy carter.
@damianwojcikiewicz3951
@damianwojcikiewicz3951 2 жыл бұрын
So currently no one say cons because Apple send a message?
@stephenfgdl
@stephenfgdl 2 жыл бұрын
iJustine always says apple products are amazing.... I never see her say she had a terrible experience with an apple product.
@gameshoes
@gameshoes 2 жыл бұрын
@@warfare112593 He's probably too big for them to silence.
@DennisdeLara
@DennisdeLara 2 жыл бұрын
Bravo Jon. I've been watching you since you were just a noobie. Brave choice. No one should be slave by any of these big corporations. If they don't want any complaints then they should make good products and services. Besides, they should appreciate and thank all the reviewers for allowing them to know what they should fix and improve.
@adharshsabu5865
@adharshsabu5865 2 жыл бұрын
wow really did you see his intel evo video XD
@nunosapunso6239
@nunosapunso6239 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing your story. I’ve been watching your videos all the way back to your Jon4lakers days. Keep doing what you’re doing and I wish you all the best.
@BooredAtWork
@BooredAtWork 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing bro! 2018 funny how a few people had similar experiences that year.
@AztkSmooth
@AztkSmooth 2 жыл бұрын
John! You don’t need a company to grow and you’ve proven it! Happy you’ve let it all out thanks for being open and honest with us!
@NinjaSynFrey
@NinjaSynFrey 2 жыл бұрын
Almost any popular review of an Apple product is always treated with positive responses. This is one of the reasons I actively avoid any videos or articles that talk about Apple from popular channels or news outlet. It creates this narrative for consumers that Apple does everything absolutely perfect and do no wrong. Criticizing their product makes them look bad and they obviously don’t want people to ruin this “premium” image they’ve established. Glad that you’ve stood your ground Jon. Thanks for sharing your story!
@fabiospringer6328
@fabiospringer6328 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly, it is really hard to find brutally honest reviews about Apples products.
@IDiggPattyMayonnaise
@IDiggPattyMayonnaise Жыл бұрын
It's weird how these reviewers act like there's monumental changes every year. I literally when from an 6 to a 13 max pro. Literally same thing. Used the same apps. Faster yes, better camera, yes, BUT it does the same things and works the same exact way.
@caedengoering
@caedengoering 2 жыл бұрын
More videos like this! I love this type of video. Very refreshing, and your story was excellent. Glad you were able to learn from this. Every setback is a setup if we choose to see it.
@LonSeidman
@LonSeidman 2 жыл бұрын
Yep - this is exactly how Apple picks winners and losers. Those they hand pick get early devices, lots of traffic, and the corresponding revenue (along with great SEO/recommendation positions for future placements). There's tremendous value in access to them and Apple knows it. Most of this goes undisclosed by those whom Apple picks for review units and access.
@_Digitalguy
@_Digitalguy 2 жыл бұрын
Great to see you here Lon! And of course I agree with you on this!
@joeykeilholz925
@joeykeilholz925 2 жыл бұрын
Reminds me of s20 fe getting phone of the year when it has a defective touch screen
@zarndt2134
@zarndt2134 2 жыл бұрын
Kinda sad to see that Apple wanted to control the Narrative, especially when the Company preaches individuality and being yourself. I’m happy you were able to rise above the immaturity they showed. Love your content.
@TaylorABell
@TaylorABell 2 жыл бұрын
How can Apple preach "individuality" when all their smartphones are the same every single year? Individuality is Android - Pixel, OnePlus & Samsung Galaxy. Android operating system is individuality. Apple is not.
@TaylorABell
@TaylorABell 2 жыл бұрын
Oh.... Maybe you meant "individually similar"?
@AkasagiPhan
@AkasagiPhan 2 жыл бұрын
@@TaylorABell in the old days Apple was pushing for individuality via their Mac products, against Microsoft and IBM. Now it has become just another corporation
@zarndt2134
@zarndt2134 2 жыл бұрын
@@TaylorABellIn the past 3 years. Every smartphone manufacturer has made their phones pretty much identical. Internal upgrades and are all that changes. Also, sorry to break it to you. Not many people customize their android like you think they do. Not to mention Android has become more restrictive over the past 3 years. While apple is letting lose and letting people change their device how they see fit.
@RK-um9tu
@RK-um9tu 2 жыл бұрын
@@mariacheebandidos7183 Warning, Warning, Apple Rep just entered the chatroom...
@MichaelSoledad
@MichaelSoledad 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing, Jon! That’s a great story to hear especially seeing where you are now.
@renzybenzy
@renzybenzy 2 жыл бұрын
I enjoy your tech reviews, Jon! What matters most is the authenticity of your content. You’re beyond blessed. Keep up the good work!
@blakesooly2722
@blakesooly2722 2 жыл бұрын
Jon, you’re the most genuine bloke always. One of the first tech KZbinrs I started watching around 2011. Would love to hear the stories you’ve had over your career.
@user-ho1dk8uj4s
@user-ho1dk8uj4s 2 жыл бұрын
👆👆congratulations you won a giveaway💜
@mchambers140
@mchambers140 2 жыл бұрын
I think it takes a lot of courage to speak out and tell this story. I am happy that you’ve had success regardless. Best of luck in your upcoming endeavors!
@lowvisionlounge
@lowvisionlounge 2 жыл бұрын
Well done for sharing this Jon. I always enjoy your content. All the best.
@eddiedsuza
@eddiedsuza 2 жыл бұрын
This is the real reason i have been following you since your TechnoBuffalo Days. You are simply Honest, Humble & Happy .....🍻 Hells Yeah ! It definetly worked out for you 😎
@christopherwilliams2
@christopherwilliams2 2 жыл бұрын
John it’s really good that you were able to share this. Especially your forgiving perspective and no hard feelings approach.
@95AP
@95AP 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing Jon! Been with you since TechnoBuffalo! Sucks to hear that Apple’s PR team handled it this way. So many other reviewers get away with that kind of content. Just shows how much more you can be trusted as a reliable reviewer!
@MarroquinVidal
@MarroquinVidal 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing Jon! I’ve been following you since the “ Jon4lakers” days. I always felt you were the most honest and fairest tech reviewer online. Thank you.
@pamelaramdat8321
@pamelaramdat8321 2 жыл бұрын
Tbh i really love this new format of your channel
@rohankhatri4548
@rohankhatri4548 Жыл бұрын
This is getting interesting, please continue this series and share your more experiences you've had in your tech journalism carrier.
@ArtiePenguin1
@ArtiePenguin1 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you made and shared this video with us. On the plus side, due to the pandemic, in-person attendance at Apple events is not any more advantageous to just watching the event at home and making a video about it. You seem a lot happier now with your channel being independent than several years ago, keep up the positivity!
@ahmadelsiwi5557
@ahmadelsiwi5557 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Jon for sharing your story. I just wanted to say that your content is very genuine. I like watching your videos; your channel is considered among the top tech ones that I follow. Your videos and production with such quality could be due to what happened to you. Please don't change the way you produce the videos and how you share your thoughts on today's tech.
@ShervinShares
@ShervinShares 2 жыл бұрын
mad respect, just makes me want to watch your content more often & trust your Apple reviews even more!
@klrktsr
@klrktsr 2 жыл бұрын
While I consider myself an Apple “fanboy”, I realize how terrible this company can be if it comes to PR. Absolutely not acceptable. Thanks for sharing this.
@DanRustle
@DanRustle 2 жыл бұрын
yet you still buy their products.
@Martinez21284
@Martinez21284 2 жыл бұрын
@@DanRustle I bet your fantastic at parties
@klrktsr
@klrktsr 2 жыл бұрын
@@DanRustle yeah cause they’re the best. But their PR sucks
@gurnealsingh2012
@gurnealsingh2012 2 жыл бұрын
Become a Samsung knight now join our ranks!
@albundy06
@albundy06 2 жыл бұрын
Apple is terrible when it comes to everything the company does. Stop being a fanboy of any corporate company period. Let alone apple who behaves like utter tyrants in everything they do.
@has128
@has128 2 жыл бұрын
Proud of you Jon, really glad it all worked out for you.
@bjs2022
@bjs2022 2 жыл бұрын
Being blacklisted by Apple is a badge of honor. Back when Steve Jobs was alive Leo Laporte got blacklisted for live streaming an event with his laptop. As I recall he wasn’t even inside the building but when Apple found out he never got invited to an event again.
@TobiasTimpe
@TobiasTimpe 2 жыл бұрын
Come on, Leo was holding the laptop up turned around and streaming the event back when Apple didn’t. He knows he shouldn’t have done that, probably irritated and annoyed Steve. He risked it and got banned. Just don’t do that kind of stuff.
@therealhugocosta
@therealhugocosta 2 жыл бұрын
He was streaming the event with his laptop camera turned to the stage, but that is why i like Leo shows, he speaks his mind without fearing consequences.
@tengoodquestions
@tengoodquestions 2 жыл бұрын
Lmfao
@harrismunshi
@harrismunshi 2 жыл бұрын
Been watching your reviews from a long time. Keep up the good work brotha
@irhyslee
@irhyslee 2 жыл бұрын
You, Mark and Quinn were some of the people I first subscribed too on KZbin. Glad you're still going strong despite any roadblocks such as Apple etc. Always look forward to the videos!
@carlyeremian
@carlyeremian 2 жыл бұрын
Not surprised at all!! Love this video, so interesting how companies get as they grow. Love the honesty. Keep up the great content.
@Mrbowgod
@Mrbowgod 2 жыл бұрын
I bet apple will be calling you about this video now too. Keep up the good content and don't let these companies bully you into doing what they want! that is why we love you!
@alexbolt5
@alexbolt5 2 жыл бұрын
To me it seems this specific Pr member rep had some sort of agenda against him from the start
@mikeyross369
@mikeyross369 2 жыл бұрын
@@alexbolt5 exactly and based from his own narrative it is Apple "the company" LOL
@ljlysong001
@ljlysong001 2 жыл бұрын
@@mikeyross369 Usually when your employed and working for a company. You are a representing your company. What you say and do, the company is liable. His "narrative" is valid and should never happened to him.
@NineteenEightyFive
@NineteenEightyFive 2 жыл бұрын
well i mean there's nothing they can do about it now lol
@OXIR
@OXIR 2 жыл бұрын
@@mikeyross369 well Apple or Samsung or Google is not a physical person. Its not even the CEO. It’s the company as a whole and who represents it in different areas. In this case he can definitely say Apple because it is Apple’s director at that place. What would he say? “Not Apple but that person who is responsible at Apple PR”?
@stephenlapper9958
@stephenlapper9958 2 жыл бұрын
Great video Jon. Thanks for sharing!
@bradnotbradley
@bradnotbradley 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. You and Soldier are OGs in this work and trusted voices in the tech world. Thank you! Keep grinding!
@lukeshrubsole6087
@lukeshrubsole6087 2 жыл бұрын
Jon, fantastic video. I’ve been following and loving your content for a long time and it just keeps getting better. Keep up the great work
@TechPolice
@TechPolice 2 жыл бұрын
The Apple PR team could have handled this situation more professionally in my opinion. Nevertheless glad it worked out great for you Jon!
@Jbig1430
@Jbig1430 2 жыл бұрын
This is a example of hiring people for a job that they are not able to do. The PR team is just a bunch of people who do not know anything about PR and think its all about strong arming people. A simple please make sure you tell viewers those are dummy units and a sorry for not giving an update on the units.
@MaglevM5
@MaglevM5 2 жыл бұрын
@@Jbig1430 I think Apple PR did that on purpose. I wouldn't be surprised if you had to be a bully asshole in their PR position interview to get the job. I don't think it is bad hiring. I think that's exactly the kind of people they want .. so that they can bully KZbin creators.
@crazzp
@crazzp 2 жыл бұрын
@@Jbig1430 on the contrary. The PR knows exactly what they are doing. They want to control the relationship like a abusive boyfriend/girlfriend. You can only eat if they tell you to, you can only say what they tell you to. And if you do no follow religiously, you will be ostracized. Red flags everyone.
@elvish340
@elvish340 2 жыл бұрын
Jon, I’ve been watching your videos for the past 10-12 years. Thanks for sharing this.
@ShannonMorse
@ShannonMorse 2 жыл бұрын
Wow the revision3 throwback 💕. Thanks for sharing this. We all knew they do this via our shadow convos but speaking out about it is important.
@jon4lakers
@jon4lakers 2 жыл бұрын
🙏🙏🙏
@nestoresquivel2905
@nestoresquivel2905 2 жыл бұрын
This really changed my perception of Apple. I knew they controlled the narrative but not like this, it’s really unprofessional on their part and just shows how great you are with the composure you showed and didn’t deserve to be treated that way at all.
@JeramieReeves
@JeramieReeves 2 жыл бұрын
Dude I appreciate this video it's good to be completely transparent with your viewers. I'm glad you did not fold and formed to their standards like most tech reviews.
@joz1765
@joz1765 2 жыл бұрын
Love your video style. The way you present your content is engaging.
@gareth.furlong
@gareth.furlong 2 жыл бұрын
This is one of the most incredible, genuine, heartfelt KZbin videos I've ever seen.
@cjmixer99
@cjmixer99 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for sharing! I’ve always loved your videos, and it’s great to know that your Apple reviews are unbiased. Crummy you were treated that way, but great to see that you persevered and grew from that experience.
@jon4lakers
@jon4lakers 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@Sankew
@Sankew 2 жыл бұрын
This video is a great view on how you were being treated by Apple, honestly I’m surprised that other reviewers like mkbhd or someone else do very similar videos and yet get away with it, this is just straight up bad from apple’s side to have a bad PR, a reviewer’s job is to review it from their point of view, not from what the brand wants from it
@Roberts_shorts
@Roberts_shorts 2 жыл бұрын
Because mkbhd follows the rules
@ronaldbardalez6318
@ronaldbardalez6318 2 жыл бұрын
Also, MKBHD is way too known and popular now to be mistreated by Apple. Is in their best interest to leave him alone.
@_framedlife
@_framedlife 2 жыл бұрын
MKBHD doesn't really go too hard on apple and he's too big to shake down over minor issues
@cov_.g9702
@cov_.g9702 2 жыл бұрын
Mkbhd has too much of a following for them to blacklist him. Which is basically what everyone else is saying.
@TDDPhoto
@TDDPhoto 2 жыл бұрын
Tbh do you really think MKBHD can hurt Apple's sales? Even if he would make a very critical video, in the grand scheme of things won't change a thing. Go on the streets and ask who MKBHD is. It's still mostly us tech geeks that know him not the "average Apple consumer"
@tasosjw
@tasosjw 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Jon for sharing your experience with us.
@BrysonWooden
@BrysonWooden 2 жыл бұрын
Any reviewer willing to express their thoughts and experiences with a device thoughtfully and without bias rather than simply gushing about it is one I'll always come back to when that next new product is announced. I appreciate your transparency.
@user-ho1dk8uj4s
@user-ho1dk8uj4s 2 жыл бұрын
👆👆congratulations you won a giveaway ❤️
@Roberts_shorts
@Roberts_shorts 2 жыл бұрын
I’m so glad you made this video. Now I see why these tech channels always trying to make like the iPhone is the best phone to get or try to just make videos about the phone to act like it’s nothing wrong with the phone
@jenniferstewart1330
@jenniferstewart1330 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve been waiting for this since you foreshadowed it on twitter… and man I’m sorry this happened to you. You’d think a multi billion dollar company would treat people who are promoting their products in this manner- sounds to me like they don’t like constructive criticism… now I know why the tech tubers kiss apples … well. You’re amazing keep up the great work.
@BrianGlaze
@BrianGlaze 2 жыл бұрын
Love that you released this. It's never ok for a company to treat someone like that.
@MrAsH412
@MrAsH412 Жыл бұрын
The console wars and Jon4lakers era were some of my earliest exposure with your business and honestly you remain one of the most honest and real reviewers ever. Keep doing what you're doing. Lots of love from the other side of the world.
@wana.me003
@wana.me003 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your bravery and honesty to talk about this. It's sad that corporations can blatantly try and restrain information and user experiences on products. More power to you! I have been watching you for a long time thank you for the content you produce.
2 жыл бұрын
Great video. Very interesting to know what happened. Integrity and honesty trump everything!
@VDOria92
@VDOria92 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing, Jon. Not at all surprised by the way Apple PR acted, but still must have been stressful to say the least. Glad you were able to push through and continue being great!
@eddward209
@eddward209 Жыл бұрын
John, thank you for sharing your story. I’ve been watching your videos for years ! Keep up the great content !
@AndrewHahaLee
@AndrewHahaLee 2 жыл бұрын
Meanwhile, Unboxtherapy in defiance: iPhone 14 Pro Max First Look - That earned my respect
@brendanevans299
@brendanevans299 2 жыл бұрын
Jon, you’re not being salty-the only one being salty is apple 😂. Disappointing to hear you went through that headache but not surprised one bit. Glad you’re doing better and have more creative freedom!
@sabni8668
@sabni8668 2 жыл бұрын
How’s Austin?
@brendanevans299
@brendanevans299 2 жыл бұрын
@@sabni8668 is that because my last name is Evans? Lol
@sabni8668
@sabni8668 Жыл бұрын
@@brendanevans299 it was hahaha bad joke, I know. Still, cool association tho!
@rshukla
@rshukla Жыл бұрын
Inspiring story. Thanks for your honesty. I’m glad to subscribe. 👍🏻
@mikey27
@mikey27 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your story man. Been watching your content for years now. Keep up the good work!
@markallen4514
@markallen4514 2 жыл бұрын
Loved this video. So often setbacks are also the seed of opportunity. It doesn’t matter where you are a career, change for the better is always possible when you are willing to let go of your past ideas, preconceptions and even dreams. It’s never too late to start over. I did it at 60.
@deurkl
@deurkl 2 жыл бұрын
This guy is a master of fitting thirty seconds of content in a fourteen minute video
@Sunflash1001
@Sunflash1001 2 жыл бұрын
Haha I’ve followed him since 2010. He was better back when technobuffalo was a thing lol
@markbennett6658
@markbennett6658 2 жыл бұрын
So’s Drew from Tailosive Tech!
@jayrollo1352
@jayrollo1352 2 жыл бұрын
Anyone have a TLDR. Not tryna watch this whole thing.
@winfr34k
@winfr34k 2 жыл бұрын
@@jayrollo1352 Skipping the backstory: He bought two iPhone XRs and they both had issues for him, then messaged Apple Support > 10d before putting out a review. When they didn't really say anything, he still shared his sincere thoughts and issues and Apple PR didn't like that he did before support got back to him so he got called by them asking to take the video down which he didn't do. So since then he's never heard anything from Apple.
@jayrollo1352
@jayrollo1352 2 жыл бұрын
@@winfr34k Thanks for that. Looks like apple likes to have control over reviewers. Not surprised.
@Shipwrckdntweetin
@Shipwrckdntweetin 2 жыл бұрын
2 things immediately came to mind as I watched your always insightful and awesome video 👊🏽 1- you were so right not to take it personally as they really did not want to work with You, they wanted your reach…audience. In hindsight I’ve not always been successful there. 2- I bet that rep didn’t slow walk any cases after that posting 😃 I chuckled at the chastising part. Sincerely… thx for sharing with us Jon.
@jon4lakers
@jon4lakers 2 жыл бұрын
🙏
@mobilemandan
@mobilemandan 2 жыл бұрын
Great video about how things are behind the scenes. Always thought big had to be the apple way or no way when it came to their PR. Some people almost suck up as such to be kept on their list for the future as don’t want to be dropped, this proves you don’t have to say what they want you to say to make yourself known or have a following, you have not heard from them in so long yet have one of the most respected views in my eyes, even more so after this video. Keep up the great work and keep being you…..honest
@kaskovic1993
@kaskovic1993 2 жыл бұрын
It wouldnt surprise me if Apple still does this with top reviewers making sure that they are positive about their devices. Although I agree that now Apple is on the top. Its always been weird to me that Apple was far behind in lots of features but youtube reviewers always shoved this under the table and never spoke about it. Very interesting story, thanks for sharing!
@myproject13ttt
@myproject13ttt 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for being open. Need to go back to TechnoBuffalo✌️
@jamesfoster1910
@jamesfoster1910 2 жыл бұрын
You were one of the first tech reviews I subscribed to on KZbin. Glad things got better for you.
@melissaallen3898
@melissaallen3898 Жыл бұрын
Hello James
@YuichiTamaki
@YuichiTamaki 2 жыл бұрын
I appreciate the transparency of your reviews! It worth the pain.
@Munyabrwn
@Munyabrwn 2 жыл бұрын
Being true and honest about a review is what viewers want, and you're doing great. Some big tech KZbinrs are clearly sucking apple if you watch enough reviews on their channels.
@user-ho1dk8uj4s
@user-ho1dk8uj4s 2 жыл бұрын
👆👆congratulations you won a giveaway💯
@ELJefeReviews
@ELJefeReviews 2 жыл бұрын
I appreciate you sharing your story bro! I'm happy to see you turned lemons into lemonade and have come out better and stronger than before.
@serge-partykingtech5923
@serge-partykingtech5923 2 жыл бұрын
Great story man I love you narration style keep inspiring us smaller channels
@iWigY
@iWigY 2 жыл бұрын
Watched your first video like 14 years ago. Always found you an authentic guy, glad to hear you're still keeping that up.
@user-ho1dk8uj4s
@user-ho1dk8uj4s 2 жыл бұрын
👆👆congratulations you won a giveaway✉️
@Tim_Duran
@Tim_Duran 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for telling the story! That's one reason I can't stand anything from Gruber anymore. He's grown more and more into a PR spokesperson for Apple, just repeating their arguments. When you can have a podcast, inside Apple on WWDC and have pretty much the complete C-suite there, than you can't be as neutral as you claim to be. I'll keep following you. ;-)
@Bumbledora
@Bumbledora 2 жыл бұрын
I'm not surprised. I think it's really bad of them to treat you like they did. But once again; I'm not surprised. I was an iPhone user from their first iPhone but I turned to an android as my latest and I'm happy with my phone. Sure, all phones have their pros and cons. Thanks for sharing your story. It's their loss if they don't wanna talk to you anymore. Greetings from Sweden
@Guerreropowerr
@Guerreropowerr 2 жыл бұрын
Been a fan since the Jon4Lakers days. You still make some of the best content out there.
@noahplants
@noahplants Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for posting this!
@LEGnewTube
@LEGnewTube 2 жыл бұрын
You (back in the John4Lakers days) and SoldierKnowsBest were I think the first and only tech KZbinrs I watched a while. Appreciate all that you’ve done over the years for do tech reviews.
@AaronCrawford
@AaronCrawford 2 жыл бұрын
Really enjoyed this. Always felt Apple is very self righteous. Makes it clear how other reviewers must be playing along
@paarthtyagi3228
@paarthtyagi3228 2 жыл бұрын
Jon! I think your honesty and sincerity will help you go a long way. You are a honest guy and an amazing tech reviewer and I’ve been watching you since a long time now. It’s quite understandable of Apple behaving in this way cz it’s all about revenue and profits at the end of the day for any company whatsoever more than customer satisfaction and we’ll all agree on this and this is coming from a guy who has been using iPhone since 2010. But I think at the end of the day it’s about being honest and respectful and that’s what these companies should also focus on. But anyways, keep doing what you always do and that’s being amazing always. Loads of love and support for you from India. Hope your family’s doing fine as well. Keep up the good work❤
@vancouverrob
@vancouverrob 2 жыл бұрын
Truth and honesty in media what a concept! Thank you for sharing!!
@ubiquitoustech5256
@ubiquitoustech5256 2 жыл бұрын
The begging though, 10/10
@Campwise05
@Campwise05 2 жыл бұрын
Nice video Jon, kinda crazy thinking you were essentially attacked by Apple. I will say the better part of this is that in the end you still are doing what you like to do and that is making videos and sharing them here on KZbin. It has been a long journey seeing you and this channel grow from a hobby to TechnoBuffalo and seeing where you are now!
@kgvertu
@kgvertu 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for publishing Jon. You are one of the most honest reviewers on the platform and a pleasure to watch you and your story telling. The “relationship” has done the opposite of hinder you, it freed you.
@user-ho1dk8uj4s
@user-ho1dk8uj4s 2 жыл бұрын
👆👆congratulations you won a giveaway
@fatso548
@fatso548 2 жыл бұрын
Would love to hear more about your business journey and the low points. Been a long time follower
@j340_official
@j340_official 2 жыл бұрын
Your loyalty lies with your viewers and readers, not with the corporation, and that is a good thing. Keep telling the truth, sometimes it may get you in trouble, or even blacklisted, but so be it. The truth shall set you free.
@ARIGHETTI
@ARIGHETTI 2 жыл бұрын
I've been watching you since 2015 technobuffalo, I'm glad you are honest explaining your feeling about apple!
@melissaallen3898
@melissaallen3898 Жыл бұрын
Hi Ari
@RemofRenaissance
@RemofRenaissance 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing. Everything happens for a reason. Ironically my iPhone XR has turned out to be quite a robust phone (I still use it!). Appreciate this insight into what happens behind the scenes. Funny enough I remember an old post / review of how the business is ran through a Surface Pro and I thought at that time a full switch had been made from Apple. Wish you all the best. … Checks surface pro review, ahh that was 6 years ago pre the black listing!
@Hedgehog-ji1bm
@Hedgehog-ji1bm 2 жыл бұрын
Nice video. It is interesting, I am a XR owner who has never had an issue. So, did they have a bad batch of phones?
@omarcorrea
@omarcorrea 2 жыл бұрын
It’s Apple’s loss. You are a man of principle and I’ve always appreciated your candor and honest feedback on products.
@justinbergmans36
@justinbergmans36 2 жыл бұрын
He’s not angry with. Apple. He still reviews the products, and like he said, buys them. How is that apples loss? It’s still supporting Apple.
@mikeyross369
@mikeyross369 2 жыл бұрын
you mean "PRINCIPLE" NOT "PRINCIPAL". LOL clown
@omarcorrea
@omarcorrea 2 жыл бұрын
@@mikeyross369 Thank you for the helpful and condescending correction
@thatwasprettyneat
@thatwasprettyneat 2 жыл бұрын
The way you said they treated you, like a child, on the phone is why I have a problem with Apple as a company and more specifically their OS. I'm not anti-Apple either, but I don't like to be told that I'm doing things the wrong way and that to have an enjoyable experience I need to do things "the right way" (the way they intend for you to use it).
@phynesse2000
@phynesse2000 2 жыл бұрын
thanks for sharing, Jon. interesting.
@Justaman183
@Justaman183 Жыл бұрын
Wow. Crazy story! Glad to see you still like and enjoy their products! I do too.
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