What happens if a crucial ocean current collapses? | About That

[@FarmerRiddick]

The children and grandchildren born today have a likely chance of experiencing the negative effects in their old age tomorrow. Thanks mom and dad, grandma and grandpa for the gifts of struggle and hard survival.

[@chinookvalley]

If things happen like the profits say, WE will see the negative effects happen. I'm guessing we have until 2025 to call it, "the good ol' days". Our children don't stand a chance. Forget the grandchildren. Too little too late.

[@FarmerRiddick]

@@chinookvalley Still, we must endure and keep doing what we can. these children are an example of a form of right action.

[@tealkerberus748]

Humans have lived through struggling to survive before now. Future generations are going to have an extra burden of rage that the struggle bequeathed to them was so unnecessary - the leaders and voters from the 20th century knew exactly what they were doing and chose to continue doing it - but they will still do their absolute best to survive and thrive. That's what all life forms do.

[@peterp5099]

So how could we switch our current global economic system against one that would allow saving the climate to work? I mean, today the richest 10% are responsible for half of the climate relevant emissions, and in our current system there is literally nothing that we could do to make them reduce that.

[@stevenrichardscott1622]

The AMOC and the Gulf Stream are two different, though connected, things. The first is powered by water temperature and salinity, the second by the spinning of the earth and wind. Thus the stopping of the AMOC does not mean the end of the Gulf Stream.

[@ElectroCouture]

YESSIR! They are talking nonsense in order to impliment new draconian measures to control our lives... Worst part is, it will all be for naught! If you follow legit, open minded, highly qualified climatologists, they will tell you there is much much more at play and that we have zero control over... Yet here we are playing day after tomorrow clips to frighten people into submission when the measures are rolled out. I would hate to be Canadian these days. Its gonna suck for Europe AND Canada. Dont get me wrong, they will try it here in the states, but our constitution is keeping them in check.

[@renatoantonelli3894]

Therefore what happens to the gulf stream if the Amoc is interrupted ?

[@mayatara1980]

Came here to say that.

[@TheVinor14]

So.....were in the video, did they get that confused? Do you know how amoc can affect farming

[@showme360]

Please do a video demonstarting your argument! Because I don't know where your golf stream starts and ends.

[@social3ngin33rin]

2100 is really close But 2yr is much closer

[@ryuuguu01]

Some missing points in the video. The latest paper that has everyone talking about this now says it will stop between 2025 and 2095. The end of the video leaves the impression that 2100 is the expected year it will stop not 2065 which is what the paper says the expected date is. Also, it only mentions in passing that it evens out the temperature between temperate Northern latitudes and tropical equatorial latitudes. So we get climate change deniers talking about ice ages. In reality, it means a slower warming in the north and faster warming in the south part of the northern hemisphere.

[@TherealRTZ973]

The water movement now is what evens out the temperature. If you get rid of it you will see further extremes. Warm places like England will see an incredible amount of cooling. I'm sure as the planet on average continues to heat It will go far above that after.

[@javiersantos4385]

I agree, good point. I also thought she failed to include the effects on salinity, that makes salty warm water sink under cooler but less saline arctic meltwater.

[@da80]

13k years in Earth age is a blink of an eye

[@misterfunnybones]

How much fresh & sea water Arctic & Antarctic ice melting from sea water ice & land-based glaciers will it take to convince people that things are changing?

[@chinookvalley]

Sad how people aren't willing to look at the facts. If you think that God created the Garden of Eden, you don't want to contemplate the fact that YOU are killing it? Let's see how your God judges you for your morals and actions.

[@mayatara1980]

I am not religious, and I do not challenge that we are totally disrupting the ecosystems and climate systems, I just want to point out we're not killing the planet per se, we're destroying its current biosphere. The planet will be fine and readjust itself and find new balances, as it always does, and life will thrive again with news species replacing the old ones, the problem is we're killing ourselves and most other life we depend on to survive. So in that sense, you can say we're killing "the planet", but it will bounce off once it gets rid of us. Your argument is still a good one. According to the bible, we're supposed to be the caretakers of god's creation. But when someone wrongfully translated "care for" for "dominate", to justify destroying it and killing all the animals, that's when they completely took us away from being caretakers of "god's creation" and now they really don't seem to care anymore.

[@loveobviously]

Could you imagine “IF” this movie actually happened 🤯

[@CHIEF_420]

🌏⌚️

[@Magickmoon]

The truth is stranger than fiction, think about that!

[@drew_x_insights]

It happened in history before & it will happen again in the future. Just a matter of asking “when”

[@DarkSideOfThePepper]

IF this and IF that

[@jsEMCsquared]

​@FaithShortridge " i think ,therefore I am." You ,whomever you are, must not exist.

[@sandorski56]

Don't miss the forest for the trees.

[@matthewporter1376]

If we are the problem then let's limit how many people there are? What's the holding capacity of earth? 1B? Maybe less; the people that call earth home should love her like a mother.

[@haydndoucet4172]

When the Beaufort gyre releases it could stop the AMOC. Recently 2023 it changed and looks like it wi release, but they’ve been saying that since 2017. So it could any day or year. It holds 40% more freshwater than it had since the 70’s. It holds as much freshwater as the Great Lakes.

[@justbecauseOK]

If you dont like climate science then please do not comment here. We who do believe the scientists will be picking up the pieces for you. That will probably be a little bit humbling for you.

[@cricketmusic62]

Climate change is for real, but it is unstoppable because it is a cycle the Earth will complete. Always has and the evidence confirms it. The proposterous claim of human carbon emissions is the root cause of the ever changing climate cycle, now thats where the ethical scientists leave the room. Biggest scam that has ever been played on some parts of the world, but millions of Americans have been and will continue to be duped for the ill gotten gains of a few billionaires.

[@mikepotter5718]

I hate the science on this. :) Something is happening but its not clear when or what. (Googles AI has come to the conclusion that a collapse could happen between don't look out your door to 6000 years in the future,) How do you make policy on that kind of information?

[@OldScientist]

This is a scare story about things you cannot see. To quote the Chief Scientist at the National Oceanography Centre, Professor Penny Holliday, "There hasn't been a slow down. There hasn't been a slowing of the AMOC." Actual observations using the RAPID-MOCHA array from 2004 to 2023 show, that although there can be a great deal of variability of flow in the ocean from month to month or even day to day, there has been no decline in the Gulf Stream, with flow oscillating around 32Sv (32 million cubic metres per second) throughout the period of observation. Continuous section measurements of the AMOC, available since 2004 at 26°N from the RAPID-MOCHA array, have shown that the AMOC strength decreased from 2004 to 2012, and thereafter, it has strengthened again. No relationship to CO2. MOC spanning the North Atlantic at 27°N derived from RAPID/MOCHA/WBTS, satellite altimeter, and Argo floats for 1994 to 2020 shows no statistically significant decline (-0.06 Sv per decade). Furthermore blended meridional overturning basin-wide circulation (MOC) trend estimates (Sv) based on combinations of satellite altimetry and in situ hydrography data exist for the South Atlantic for 1994 onwards: at 34.5°S (often referred to as SAMBA) is +0.48Sv per decade. This is a significant positive trend, so no decline, no tipping point, no correlation to CO2. (GLOBAL OCEANS G. C. Johnson and R. Lumpkin, Eds., 2021) The OSNAP MOC Timeseries of observations from Canada to Greenland and across to Scotland, although a shorter timescale (from 2014), show no decline in MOC with the flow fluctuating around 17Sv. "Florida Current transport observations reveal four decades of steady state" Volkov et al, 2024 (published in Nature). This paper shows that a key component of AMOC, the Florida Current, has remained remarkably steady for over 40 years. There is no climate crisis. The North Atlantic current has doubled its velocity over the course of a quarter of century (Oziel et al, 2020). This is based on actual satellite observations. The idea the AMOC is going to shut down is based on modelling. There is minimal real world evidence to support these outlandish claims. It relies upon climate models. You know, those Magical Truth Machines that keep making false predictions. It claims with 95% certainty that the AMOC with collapse by the end of the century. Come on! Really? Sea surface temperatures (SST) were trending downwards 2000-2018 (HadSST 4), and from 1950-1980, and from 1880-1910. The oceans warmed at a faster rate 1910-1940 than 1980-2010. Remember CO2 has been accumulating in the atmosphere at an accelerating rate all the time, so there is little correlation between the two. The North Atlantic ocean has cooled and warmed rapidly and repeatedly during the current interglacial with no correlation to CO2 e.g. 10,300-10,200 years before the present (y BP), 9,500y BP, 6,000-5,900y BP, 5,400-5,300y BP, 2,500-2,300y BP, 1,700-1,600y BP (Berner et al., 2008. See Figure 8 in the paper). There is a high frequency (18 events) of SST variability on the order of 1-3°C during a 10-50 year time resolution throughout the Holocene in the North Atlantic with no correlation to CO2. And Life just carried on.

[@gokulkrishna4011]

Is it possible it can happen faster

[@showme360]

At 35 gigatonnes of CO2 being released each year, I don't see any relaxing of the emissions. After all the meteorite than finished the dinosaurs was estimated to be around 600 - 1000 gigatonnes, we matched that in the last 20 years, and are on target to reach the 1000 gigatonnes by 2040 all be it slower. Its the migrations of billions of people from the equator to the North hemisphere that will be be the biggest problem for humanity!

[@degagnemarc]

Little correction on, "We are not at this point yet !". I don't know how one measure the start of something, but on my side, if there are sings, it has started! Yes we are at this point now, It's starting and every sings are there. In 2021, Canada had It's worst crop yield and so as other food countries. Droughts and floods, fires, tornados where there was none, hurricane stronger than ever, climate going from drought to floods over and over again. Yes there is other factors contributing to the rise cost of food but the main one is availability. Food cost is just going to rise rapidly and as other goods as rebound. No food does mean the crash of this type of economy we live in and the good comfort of modern living we enjoy so mush and take for granted. In 2023 we had our FIRST full year 1.4 °C above pre industrial levels. Ok it does take at least a decade of repeated temperatures to say we reached it, but it as started nevertheless. And the gentlemen comment before me is right about the AMOC and the gulf stream. These are two distinctive currents, one influences the other but are considered different. I don't now what it will take for people to open there eyes!

[@leohorishny9561]

It needs to happen, otherwise concrete steps to affect anything will not happen for decades.

[@C0NFETT1PUP]

boo

[@MaryJane-hi7tu]

10 years later we'll be saying remember that time they thought the currant was going to stop.

[@ninemoonplanet]

I hope your here when another decade is done, then add this to your memory, write it down and see if you are right.

[@MaryJane-hi7tu]

@@ninemoonplanet no need to wright it down. I'll find out in ten years. I could care less. An asteroid could wipe us out tomorrow. Do I seem worried?

[@MaryJane-hi7tu]

I am worried Trudeau is going to screw over the middle class though. 🙃

[@da80]

let's tag it in our calendars 10 years from today to see how much more we all destroyed our only home while still living in it.

[@MaryJane-hi7tu]

@@da80 nothing to do with us. It's pretty ignorant of you to think humans can destroy the planet. You don't give this rock the credit it deserves.

[@JONSEY101]

Well, the Amoc has already begun slowing down.

[@Dman8s]

The current would depend on gravity ? Tides. So unless the land is changing to funnel water off somewhere else like man made lakes, massive canals ? The rotation of the planet might change if the weight of the water starts moving in another direction, so then tides could maybe wash over countries or your country could end up suddenly bigger as the water goes somewhere else. Hot water rising towards the surface has zero to do with current movements. Like if Ireland was positioned on the Pacific equator it would be underwater, if you view the earth without water its not round at all

[@7Trident3]

Canada has the worlds largest salt mine???!!!

[@EmeraldView]

Well they did until Trump lost the election in 2020 and then all his criminal indictments Now the largest salt mine is his horde of MAGAts.

[@sotonpo]

Sad News

[@JB-np5xi]

Our friend the atom 30+yrs ago and we would not be where we are today.

[@canadaclub8920]

Canfield Ocean risk

[@kimlibera663]

Bunk. Gulf current will not collapse. This is because it moves via the rotation of the earth.

[@giftedfooljjhg1981thepasmb]

Doom

[@cynthiadonegan2097]

How is it possible for you or anyone to be absolute about "what if"? Thanks for the minimal data but - no thanks to a plastic container & glass tank to give credit to a living planet - what a joke

[@EmeraldView]

It was a simple basic demonstration to illustrate a concept. Do you think climate scientists do THAT (tank thing) and then draw their conclusions?

[@cjever6625]

A great video to make will be about the 2015 Paris Climate Agreement which will be a decade old next year. How much have we done?

[@tophat2115]

could be, might be...don't hedge, the human brain says, nothing to worry about then... this needs attention especially if you live on this planet

[@angelsplace]

Professor Kevin Anderson explains AMOC collapse better on utube.

[@willy4571]

The ocean currants have something to do with the earths rotation, ozone layers and gravity. Just my opinion. 3:30

[@ninemoonplanet]

Partially right, but those forces are much weaker, smaller than the AMOC. Unfortunately the amount of CO2 absorbed around the world in the oceans is heating up the polar ice, Arctic and Subarctic.

[@justbecauseOK]

Offering an opinion is like pissing in the wind as a wildfire consumes your community and reduces it to ash.

[@showme360]

Wow you have such an over welling wealth of knowledge!

[@kennethsnyder9236]

Oh, I don’t know? What do you do when your moon is gone? Boy oh boy what do we do? “We’re all doomed, what are we going to do “? I am going on a limb and say we better get out on the water and start splashing around. The fish need aeration.

[@showme360]

Stop Burning stuff, thats what you do!

[@davidgeyer3988]

Please check your fact the rotation of the earth causes this current.

[@sotonpo]

😢

[@sotonpo]

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[@LuvLight44]

The Great Mother they shouldn’t have made dams. The water will go back where The Great Mother put HER water

[@dinvsl]

What happens if CBC is defunded and stops stealing taxpayers money ?

[@apextroll]

Nothing. You will continue to cry about your horrible life.

[@thezenfarmer]

Anyone following the science behind the magnetic reversal and recurrent micronova?

[@NordeggSonya]

Eyes open no fear be safe everyone, yes Suspicious 0bservers know about this.

[@sotonpo]

😢😢😢😢

[@amyntazoe9831]

And there's a war going on,. Where are all the environmentalists at.

[@Jen-e-sis]

It’s already been prophesied to happen and the four winds will be held back.

[@nativespiritindian8278]

day after tomorrow. we warned you all now red kachina comes again.

[@joelmcneney5366]

We want you : Scared, broke and compliant.

[@rodneypantony3551]

Citing ChatGPT re Bronze Age

[@heleenotto329]

Yes of de circulation stop....than you get cool EARTH..

[@ninemoonplanet]

Unfortunately that's exactly the opposite of what's going on. Permafrost is melting, forest fires are far worse, more frequent, because of the heating of both the atmosphere and oceans.

[@jsEMCsquared]

It is going to collapse. Period. . Edit, its going to happen within 5 years! David bowie "that's all we've got"

[@BobbyBiff]

Cbc has gone to heck in a hand basket, I'm losing all hope for them

[@cindyhaduik7171]

Yea , we'll show you a grade 7 experiment ... Everyone panic !!!! 🙄

[@bobleclair5665]

The planet pretty much regulates itself

[@Dragonfly_vbz]

Please tell her she is lovely, but the pauses in her speech to make points are too much. Ugh. 😮 otherwise, it is very informative, but that speech pattern is unnecessary.

[@talpark8796]

😂

[@robin1655]

The cartoon ball 😂

[@Steelblood27]

Pollution is bad, and warming is bad yes. But the earth has existed for much much longer than we have, and I feel we risk over estimating our own impact, and knowledge. Since we existed humanity has had to deal with natural disasters out of our control. We still do when it comes to tsunami's and earthquakes. This whole debate is essentially our argument that WE are now the ones causing the random chaos of earth's nature. Ultimately the earth has always been a dynamic system. Our cities and infrastructure is largely designed and based on the assumption of fixed conditions. When those "fixed" conditions change, that's where technology and old designs need to be adapted. Whether we are impacting the rate of that change or not, we still need to innovate. There will always be a limit to how much we influence the planet. We are quick to forget that we are the passengers on earth, but not the ones in the driver seat.

[@john15008]

Humankind has hijacked this natural process. Humanity has never had to cope with changes, at this rate, with a population of close to 7.9 billion.

[@showme360]

Quite right, but for the fact that our technologies have allowed us to remain fix in one place, creating cultures, and beliefs in one social segment on all the continents, so leading to countries. The great US of A will have to move to Canada to escape the heat, are you ready for the great migration? Is anyone planning this migration like in the movie 2011. I fear NOT!!

[@Steelblood27]

@@showme360 🤨huh

[@jonfklein]

Scare-monger.

[@CHIEF_420]

🤡⌚️

[@theguess7]

Amazing how advocacy journalism is indistinguishable from propaganda.

[@vrisket771]

you could argue any kind of persuasive material meant to change mindsets and raise awareness is propaganda in the truest sense of the word. propaganda isn't always bad, it sure is effective at raising awareness both good-natured and nefarious

[@theguess7]

@@vrisket771 Wow. Never thought I would see the day when someone would advocate for propaganda! This sure is a brave new world we live in.

[@vrisket771]

@@theguess7 Clearly you're not able to separate the connotation of the word from the actual meaning.

[@adelelavoie515]

I’m curious what motivation scientists would have to use “propaganda “ to convince us that there’s a problem with the earth’s balance? Because I can clearly see the motivation for pushing *denial*of climate change ($$$ greed, laziness to act, “I want what I want and I want it now” no matter the consequence)

[@adelelavoie515]

I’m curious what motivation scientists would have to use “propaganda “ to convince us that there’s a problem with the earth’s balance? Because I can clearly see the motivation for pushing *denial*of climate change ($$$ greed, laziness to act, “I want what I want and I want it now” no matter the consequence)

[@felixthecat2786]

Why don't they just allow scientists to explain how this works instead of the pretty blond report who says "like" and "Um" 70 times.

[@raedaltaee7358]

طاب يومكم اعزائي الملائكة والسلام عليكم السماح للملائكة بزراعة الحنطة والشعير والرز والبقوليات وجميع الفواكه والخضراوات بما يكفي عدد المستهلكين له في الجنة . تمت الموافقة عليها من قبل ( اللّه والرب والخالق) رسول ومستشار الخالق رائد الطائي

[@CHIEF_420]

🙈⌚️

[@davidhudson5452]

When it happens will to deal with it 2 ice ages we did not cause it this is normal

[@ninemoonplanet]

Wishful thinking. The amount of methane, CO2 is going to make Canada a drought zone, forest fires hotter, more frequent and tornadoes much more frequent and powerful. Nobody is safe from these effects, even the rainforest zones.

[@troyzieman7177]

So when you start your " news" clip with an overly dramatic movie clip from a non relevant to the topic movie .I know we have moved from news to entertainment . This report of the AMOC collapsing is not considered the finished science on this topic . It is one viewpoint with many detractors. I live in Ontario , my view of the weather we have received this summer as damn near perfect. Lots of hot weather, with plenty of rain am I too now conclude that Climate change is good ? No , of course not . I will consider that not all the effects from it will be neccesarily negative. Where you live will matter . Science does not take a single report , study , ect and declare definitive conclusions , but CBC found a report that fit its narrative and presented it as fact . The climate that needs to change is public funding to the CBC....

[@johndoe-ko8nu]

nice orange prison uniform

[@johndoe-ko8nu]

This is a JOKE!!!

[@johndoe-ko8nu]

More propaganda!!!! SCARE TACTICS!!!!

[@sireorcry]

Propaganda for what?! Prove that fossil fuels DON'T harm the climate.

[@johndoe-ko8nu]

@@sireorcry C02 promotes plant life all plants consume C02 and give oxygen at night !! Do you breath Oxygen??

[@justbecauseOK]

@@sireorcry he cannot and will not. These people are lost causes.

[@michaelsmomenton]

Prppaganda

[@mikesrdtrukr]

Blah blah blah..... There sure is a lot of "possibly" , "might" and "if" words going around in the vid. We need more taxes! Lots and lots of taxes! And more boards, and committees and science..... Yeah. That outta fix it. 🥱

[@showme360]

What your referring to is tweaking! The basic understanding of the changing climate is fix. Its going to happen!! Get ready for the mass migration of Americans heading north!

[@sotonpo]

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[@randicook15]

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