What happens when you take a professional gambler to the dog track | Can You Beat The Bookies?

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On Lloyd Griffith's journey to uncover the truths about gambling, he finds out what happens when a professional gambler visits a greyhound track.
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[@originlpb]

Guess there was no steak for dinner that night...

[@dominicthompson7612]

Underrated comment hahaha

[@a.warner8246]

There was a steak......a mistake!

[@downswingplayer9712]

He found a pound in the street and bought a bag of chips.

[@lotuseater7247]

Mum's gone to Iceland

[@makeitrainepoker6355]

Nope just $2 dollar shirts buttoned up too high..

[@baileypate9460]

"I mean, he does seem angry" Well he is a professional gambler that just lost a grand In a matter of minutes 😂

[@scowoody]

Professional gambler doesn’t win once...

[@paulplayer9092]

Can’t win when 4 wasn’t even running.

[@georgecroney6168]

More of a saturday job than a profession

[@uwotm8]

He's only had a few bets, pros don't win everyday. They have losing weeks and months.

[@thebadbeatbetty]

Had losing streaks for 3 months, make about 16% profit from bets so for every K I out on I'm averaging 1160 return. Betting track bookies like this guy did is stupid.

[@uwotm8]

@@thebadbeatbetty people who bet on the dogs can't use the exchange or online bookies as there isn't enough liquidity for them. They can only bet at the track, and value can be found there but it's just more difficult. I bet on horses so there's plenty of value on the exchange, and so there's no point betting on track for horses.

[@alizcool1]

Lol I almost believed some miracle was gonna happen when he said 'dont worry about 5'

[@Sam-wn6gu]

He couldn't pick his nose let alone a winner 😂

[@Catjuggler]

The 3 biggest tips I can give someone on the dogs is 1: A couple of minutes before race starts, watch the betting odds and if there is a low price favourite (evens or below) and it's price rapidly increases just before the start. There's usually a good/dodgy reason why and I tend to bet bigger than normal 2: with the exception of handicapped races, dogs racing amongst each other are usually at the same level and will only have a fraction of a second difference between their best times. Look out for a dog with good form and going to toilet for a number 2 just before going into its trap. Their muscles are more relaxed and they run better. 3: dont go to the tracks and stay out of the bookies.

[@makkavelli3972]

How do you mean if t he price increases on a low price favourite,,u mean evens,,you get any shorter than evens,,im confused?

[@makkavelli3972]

Hi do mean if the low price favourite increases you mean drifts from say evens too 2/1 or 3/1 or do you mean if ot starts at 2/1 then drifts too evens????

[@MrSimonson]

@@makkavelli3972don’t stress about it he’s bullshitting

[@j0shymitsu]

@@makkavelli3972 Read tip number 3, mate.

[@neilcraig7254]

Well, that Bookie will be eating steak tonight 😂😂

[@elboy6715]

His house didn't exactly portray a rich man so if hes only earning a normal wage it's not worth the stress to lose so much. If he had a huge house then I could say hes making it pay.

[@Wugzy123]

that's his mum's house

[@MrGerter1]

beats working an office / labour job if making same pay

[@yuenkentsang9446]

Dont gamble. Your not gonna win

[@truthseeker-cl7rt]

so the size of your house determines how rich you are? some people have other priorities than a bigger box to live in.

[@Chief_Brody]

@@Wugzy123 it sure looked it

[@MikeyTheMachineGaming]

You lose a shitload of money, thats what happens when you take a " professional " gambler to the dogs lol

[@mrjules2008]

Dogs are a very corrupt sport. A real professional gambler works within the business and knows which dogs are a gud bet based on whether they were drugged or had their harnesses on too tight in qualifying. This lads a victim of the corruption and his own compulsive tendencies.

[@CD-ng7ur]

Horses are corrupt also

[@feykalade7268]

i thought you were talking about our office. or, my career in general. oh, my!

[@tonygunk2226]

honeycomb steve not at the top end it’s not worth it but the shitty little weekday meetings on the all weather stay well clear

[@CD-ng7ur]

Tony Gunk yeah that’s the ones, seems to obvious sometimes.

[@rosserman2501]

Our trainer gave our dog coke...and stopped him while he wasn't telling us.

[@johnfishnet]

I need a coffee after that, all I need is a couple of Mugs !

[@fitzroy7054]

I wouldn’t put £700 on a dog at Crayford even if someone gave me the money

[@alanoshea2132]

Ever hear the story of Harry findlay having a couple of thousand on years ago in an A7 i think it got beat anyways but 4 months later it won the Kent Derby 😂😂

[@Pdotb-j4n]

Gambling’s got to be one of the most expensive addictions out there.

[@sheikhando4815]

pdotb yeah it sure is, I’m 22 and worked since 16 and haven’t got £1 just debt, I can win loads but can’t keep it, jobless homeless and lonely

[@Pdotb-j4n]

Sheikh ANDO sorry to hear that. I know the feeling. Fortunately you’re still young. It may seem like a never ending battle now but anyone can overcome this if they really wanted to. If you haven’t already done so, seek help from a professional (many of these one to one sessions are charity funded in the UK). Be open about it with your family. Occupy your mind with other things; run a marathon, climb a mountain, do some charitable work, get another job to help get out of debt. You have two options my friend, feel sorry for yourself and live a life of misery or take control of your life and start living. If you need to talk feel free to message me 👊

[@jeffledger846]

Worst addiction I ever had cause I got nothing from it ! No good night's to remember no come down or hang overs just 20 minutes in a betting shop walking out in tears cause I feel less than worthless...doesn't even tempt me now I am no longer a loser to myself.

[@sheikhando4815]

Vapeprince Uk I can relate.

[@Pdotb-j4n]

Vapeprince Uk it’s nice to hear that you got yourself out of that hole. It certainly shows others it’s possible. Wishing you all the best 🙏

[@dannylfcmeatloaf]

The only real 'tip' I ever recieved was for a greyhound. This was 25 years ago, but the tip came from a guy working in an old Coombes betting shop in Waterloo. 17.33 @Bristol, trap 3. Won by 15 lengths or more, Opend 8-1 backed into 5-2 fav. Apparently this dog was taken from a London track, slowed down in its trials, and graded much lower than his real ability.

[@200degrees.]

I’ve raced greyhounds most of my life.. my family has done so for over 50 yrs ... let me say one thing clearly,, there are NO poor bookmakers!! If only the public knew what really goes on!!

[@macthompson9750]

Sooo then.... Why does your family do it? Its hard on the dogs and the gambling is BS. So what is the point?

[@makkavelli3972]

They do it beacuse the its all a blag,,all the trainers have there turn the grading managers work with trainers too give all the trainers a chance of winning at differnt times,,as you know the prize money is crap,the trainers have too make there money by betting on the dogs too win,there for once or twice every month or so it will be worked out so they are garanteed a win,,which ever methods they use too garantee that win is all behind closed doors....So the averege punter isnt going too know when its happening.. Keep your money in your pockets...

[@jordanhamilton7536]

If you ever fancy a laugh just watch this 🤣👏

[@leonleon4055]

Right now he's living in a Homeless shelter

[@perfectgematriadecodesabc4259]

For real

[@leonleon4055]

@@perfectgematriadecodesabc4259and he will never give up ! He should join the SAS,

[@San69san]

Really?

[@mrayub7975]

😢

[@JackCODYTeGod]

“This is work init” didn’t know you get rinsed of 800 whilst working, don’t you EARN when you work

[@JoshuaDillonn]

LOOL

[@JoshuaDillonn]

HAHAHAHAHAHAA

[@makemoney3282]

Win some u lose some. If u don’t take risks you’ll never have anything worth keeping

[@adambanks6560]

Ladbrokes broke lads

[@joedimaggio3146]

always thought that ha!

[@2011blueman]

There were no professional gamblers in this video, just different levels of degeneracy.

[@frankeewizz4826]

Great advert for gambling. It's a total waste of time and you NEVER win no matter what amount you win, the compulsion to gamble will always takeover.

[@nathand.384]

That's why gamblers lose in the long run, while people who see it as an investment will succeed.

[@frankeewizz4826]

@WhatWAsThatClip ! What has winning the lottery got to do with the subject matter of compulsive addiction? Please elaborate further...

[@frankeewizz4826]

@@nathand.384 No relevance to the statement made but ok

[@nathand.384]

@@frankeewizz4826 It has great relevance to the statement. You were implying that the need to gamble will take over, and therefore you will never win. To that I replied that gamblers will indeed lose, whereas people who treat "gambling" as an investment will have the possibility to make money in the long run. Please let me know if it is still not clear.

[@frankeewizz4826]

@@nathand.384 The person in the video has obvious addiction issues, and your ridiculous statement of 'investment gambling' has no relevance to a compulsive addiction as seen in this video. Stop before you make yourself look sillier than you already have.

[@jamesross6055]

Definitely isn’t a pro gambler, every pro gambler I’ve seen doesn’t care about a loss of £800 they brush it off, on to the next one, this guy is an addict you can tell in his facial expression

[@13gibney]

I know the guy personally his pride was hurt with it been on TV, but he makes a good living from dogs that 100% fact

[@SeriousClassics]

@@13gibney 100%

[@Tomas-ml9nv]

Yeah . Be systematic about it. Emotional attachment to money is the way to lose money.

[@davegravy1842]

Strange no 4 in race 😂😂😂😂

[@NotInAsia]

You could be right about him being more of an 'addict'. But professional gamblers don't necessarily just 'brush off' £800 loss. The fact is, losing is always frustrating/annoying. But it's just part and parcel of the game, what his reaction tells me is his stakes could be too high for his bank roll. I am a professional gambler and I won't ever have that much on a single selection. I do a lot of selections so I can spread my risk more, I do that for several reasons. However I don't know his situation, nor his approach. The other factor here is he is embarrassed as it's on camera and he's trying to show he wins, and has failed. However in my experience it's always better to keep those things to yourself. There is no advantage to showing others you win, other than stroking your own ego. One thing I can say is that there is a lot of information in dog racing if you know how to extract it, a lot more so than in horse racing.

[@davidcaple5547]

It's interesting reading the comments here, they fall into the "I don't know what I'm talking about so I'll follow public preconception of gambling" camp and the "I understand betting and know professional people make a profit" camp. The first issue is … Gambling or Betting? Both apply, it depends on attitude. If you bet on Trap 3 because you fancy the dog may win (or you like it's name or it looks nice in those colours) then you are a gambler, you are playing a game of chance but, if you bet on Trap 3 because you have researched the race and your chosen dog and assess that the odds offer 'value' (I'll come onto that) then you are a bettor. You can gamble that Trap 3 will win or you can bet that it will. For those who don't understand betting 'value' is the difference between the actual probability of a runner winning and implied probability resulting from the odds offered by the bookmaker. You still won't win every race but if the actual probability of your selections is higher than their implied probability you will make a profit in the long term. A professional bettor never expects to win every bet. They are happy to lose 4 out of 5 bets and only win one if the odds are 5/1 for that means they have made a profit. Value arises because the bookmakers odds in the main are market driven, they do not reflect the bookie's opinion of the runner's probability, they reflect the odds required to balance their book so that they will attract custom by being competitive but also produce a profit regardless of which runner wins. May I respectfully suggest that those who state "mug's game", "Bookie always wins", "only win back what they previously lost" etc. actually learn something about the subject before making their proclamations of fake news!

[@DavidSmith-oy4of]

Thanks for the lesson. Alternatively you could do some arbitrage using exchanges/bookmakers, or just do matched betting for a little sure profit.

[@davidcaple5547]

@@DavidSmith-oy4of Yes you used to be able to do that David but the opportunities are now very rare and when they do exist the bookies will soon close/restrict your account because all your bets with them will be when their odds are excessive in the market. It will be picked up by their algorithms.

[@mickharrison9004]

An old freind of mine who was once involved in dogs, gave me a tip never back a dog unless you know its going to win lol.

[@jasonclarke3114]

The last thing u start backing is the dogs lol

[@robwightman6357]

Horses are miles better

[@NotInAsia]

I make a living at dogs. But I don't do it like this guy.

[@mrayub7975]

​@@NotInAsiahow? What's your p N l

[@dsauce223]

You can't win every day, so keep your losses to a minimum, and maximize your profit when you have the edge. Most people cannot gamble professionally because they lack discipline, not money or brains.

[@dudebro3250]

This is true. I'm disciplined when I win and lack discipline when I lose.

[@bobikdylan]

So true. My brother isn't a pro but is very disciplined. I've been horseracing with him when he hasn't had a single bet all day because he didn't fancy anything, whereas I'd bet on every race.

[@mckezik]

At the end of the day you only win back the money you LOST in the first place

[@leothelion5491]

Amen

[@jonallen8346]

He would of had a better chance if he closed his eyes and picked one. 🤣🤣🤣

[@liamhooks4943]

Comments here are funny. That bloke had a bad day and I'm none the wiser as to whether he is a professional or not. He could be a mug having a bad day or someone profitable having a bad day, you can't decide off this video alone. But to say professional gamblers don't exist and everybody loses is very niave. Most people lose, yes. All people lose sometimes yes. But there are people who make money over a large sample size, similar to the way stock market traders do. They are also just gambling essentially

[@Isleofskye]

I don't know the inside story of this programme or whether he was refunded his losses. IF NOT he made just about every mistake in the Book. Firstly sending an Amateur in who does not understand betting percentages. That 500/200 bet he placed was diabolical value. 2nd fav =5/2 when there is also a 3/1 and 7/2 there. They bet 7/2, 10, 5/2, 5, 3, 2. which is 133% ( Freeze it @ 51 seconds ) so no value at all and on Betfair they bet to 0% NOT 33% but you pay up to 5% Commission (mine is 2% ). The Exchanges are BACKERS Markets. If you placed your bet on the Exchanges they would bet 5 , 16 , 7/2 , 8, 4, and 5/2.......SAME DOGS.SAME RACE..

[@Isleofskye]

True. I know someone who made a fortune and gave up a 100K a year job many years ago. He won't earn so much but gets a good living and it beats getting up in the morning and getting involved in Office Politics all day..

[@liamhooks4943]

@@Isleofskye Sports betting is not my area but I know people who do that for a living. I actually played poker for a living for almost a decade and had to deal with attitudes of people thinking Im a liar quite often and thats probably what lead me to comment. Anyone can check that by googling my name.

[@billk9856]

OK if the betting board shown after the big bet race is the race they had the big bets on .. it's race 11 the 21:16 at Crayford on 26th March 2019. The race was actually won by trap 2 and trap 4 Pennylane Roddy started 9/4F and finished 4th, it received significant interference in the race. Regarding the footage that purports to be that race .... the start looks legit as the early sectionals for the race are consistent with the way they jumped and the 4 is in the race. The vision down the straight at 2:09 is clearly from the following race, race 12 the last, which was the only race to have a vacant box and it was box 4. They obviously needed a shot and unfortunately the only race left on the card had the 4 as a vacant box. The side shot at 2:11 also seems to be a race with 5 runners so would appear to be the last as is the back straight footage 2:16. The footage from 2:20 purporting to be the finish of the big bet race appears to finish 5-6-2-3-1-4 this matches the finishing position of an earlier race, race 4 the 19.23 on the same card. So the finish of that has been edited in as the finish of the big bets race (note the guys aren't seen). As for the shot of dog 4 at 2:40 that we are supposed to believe is the 4 Pennylane Roddy they backed, well Pennylane Roddy is a Black Dog so that's obviously BS as well. Hope that clarifies what we actually see. It's also interesting that the first bet we see is 200 on trap 3 - this bet is on Topper Rocky in Race 5 the 19:38. The in race footage looks OK but the across the line footage for that bet actually has box 3 winning .... because it's the finish of Race 3 the 19:07. Bit poor using a race where the losing bet box actually wins.

[@bjdelaney3131]

Typical bbc, the real enemy amingst us

[@mickykedian7753]

Wow really impressive work Bill K 👍

[@ianthomas281]

Professional gamblers don't bet on every race on the card

[@hilolottery]

What a weird video given the title. This guy is the equivalent of the punter you get in the bookies who stands up from their stool towards the end of the race and shouts COME ON NUMBER 5 before the betting slip gets scrunched up and lobbed across the floor. No idea what the score is here, but there was no professional gambler at work, nor even a keen disciplined one.

[@Bretzky01]

Tough times for Jack Black.

[@kdiddy4714]

😂

[@hulmey100]

My Late Grandad used to be a bookmaker on the tracks and he always used to say it is not what you win at the track but it what you dont lose

[@MrEmevas]

Always happens. Ya win heaps and the one time you show off you lose

[@mickharrison9004]

Bookies finished professional gamblers off with the tax on bets changing from the punter to them, that's when many more odds on favs started to get beat, hence the death of professional gamblers.

[@1bigsyd]

I am a bookmakers son..and at the age of 12 I was at greyhound racing with my dad and never forget one time he lost a lot of money on a race and I got upset...he said to me son don’t get upset, i am only loaning them the money,it will be back in the next couple of races and they will give us a lot of money extra for that loan and from that day I understood the bookmaker is the final winner

[@imrightyourewrong6274]

Cool story

[@Isleofskye]

Over a period of time IF you have the funds to overcome the rough passages....:)

[@MoneyVideos]

That mistake made him miss steak.

[@davidbarnard5873]

I'd love to be a trackside bookie lol, offer 2/1 when the dog is 7/2 on betfair then back it on there for the same amount lol

[@timmann543]

That's what they do

[@jacksamuels-hannan2678]

That’s called hedging bets and is common practice for bookies

[@Islalara]

Heartbreaking to watch...gambling is an addiction. You are basically paying for the highs and lows. Thrills can be expensive.

[@makkavelli3972]

Simone looks fire 😉

[@DA11111111]

Steak turned to beans on toast real quick

[@victoriasalter1701]

Please don’t promote or support greyhound racing. It’s a very cruel industry, with the dogs being drugged, kept in small kennels without comfort or toys, treated as commodities, exploited and often put down, shot, sold for medical research or sent to China 🇨🇳, maybe ending up as dog meat. Some greyhound “owners” may be better than others, but it could still involve a lot of cruelty. Please apologise for this video, never support or promote, bet on or go to greyhound racing again and do a few videos promoting greyhound adoption and charities and helping other dogs, too, to make up for it. Thank you 😊.

[@mast3335]

Bollox

[@artski09]

muh

[@Big-rx7wt]

Victoria Salter absolute shite, every dog my pal has raced and owned are treated like FAMILY. Had champion dogs, never over bred them, never cared about money. Lived in a small caravan on a large plot of land with 10 dogs. Took them chasing every morning and throughout the day. Yes there’s corruption but greyhounds are the most well looked after animal in ANY Racing industry. You should maybe look at pigeons by the shite you’ve listed

[@AhmedHassan-vq8ou]

Where is your evidence?

[@elisahamilton73]

Chop their ears off and dumped into the canal when they are no longer making money.

[@fabrix7907]

Your dog just called.... Saying it is still running.

[@brendanhurst2628]

Jack Black doing mini docos on pro-gamblers!! Nice!

[@eljonno69]

He’s not a professional gambler he’s just a gambler

[@billyburnham5315]

If he was such a professional he wouldn't be gambling in every race.

[@pjay3028]

Nevermind, this guy could make a fortune shorting on the stock market 😂😂😂

[@pipnoone]

there was no number 4 coming round that bend, i even paused it

[@mrfister1899]

"Don't worry about 5" 5 wins. Good one.

[@thefiestaguy8831]

Fake bet. Look again, number “4” isn’t even running. Number 4 dog always runs in a black jacket, there is no number 4 running. 1 is in red, 2 is in the blue, 3 is in the white, 4 WOULD be in black but is not taking part, 5 is orange and 6 is the black and white stripes…. Seems they have bet on “Number 4” with 700 quid when “Number 4” isn’t even running. When he “loses” at the end it’s not even an actual bet as there is no number 4 in that race. Either it’s really poor editing or it’s a staged scene with no actual bet on number 4, because it’s not even taking part in that race..

[@smith077906]

Poor editing mate. I've seen this gambler before

[@makkavelli3972]

@@thefiestaguy8831 My thorts too

[@dudebro3250]

@thefiestaguy8831 I just looked again on 0.25 speed since I missed it. The BBC just can't help themselves with the lies and deceit.

[@Geeoorggee]

They should have this as the adverts for bookies - much more accurate representation.

[@ancientnpc]

Isnt the definition of a professional that you get paid?

[@garythompson9452]

No, you got it wrong. Professional gamblers lose money for a living.

[@Jock12366]

What a 🔔🔚 giving it large 😂

[@stephenball7727]

That was gambling no doubt.. Not sure about the professional bit though!! Hope he's kept his bosses number? He's going to need his old job back, if that's how he goes about his business!!

[@vicd8761]

This was pure comedy ! 😂 the fact they got a comedian to do the segment too 😂😭

[@gezelimgorelim654]

Just bought a new car ( BMW X1 2018 ) , SO THANKFUL to my brothers from @jbrothers_tips, I owe you for my life.

[@stevehutch9592]

Don't worry about the 5 dog 🤣 5 dog wins 😂😂

[@OG_Rider]

Pro gamblers don’t bet on dogs, they bet on tennis.

[@benhookler6150]

Not true, dog racing is the easiest betting to fix and if you are in the right circle is the most profitable as you are betting on a certain (like the tennis), with only 6 dogs racing at one time, and not strict regulations trainers can slow dogs down and then speed them up when they want to win, then load up 1000’s in cash and online when you know it’s racing and get others to do same for % some trainers make £80,000 per race on one of these.

[@mihailb8280]

@@benhookler6150 How can you make good money with tennis ?

[@benhookler6150]

Michael B - for each point in tennis the umpire has to click a button to confirm it, if you have someone court-side with Bluetooth they can relay what happened in the game and someone can put a bet on a point they already know is sure winner before the umpire pushes his button to confirm the point which the bookies use. So betting on a bet you know has come in

[@joedimaggio3146]

@@benhookler6150 is this true? sounds like bull

[@benhookler3241]

@@joedimaggio3146 For dog racing there are no regulations or laws, so people can not be done for it. There is a video on it being done if you search dog racing drugged to win bets you will find it but I know people who have owned greyhounds in the past and have said it is very common, they make a fast dog slow, so much so it gets good odds and gets put in a slow race then they let it run to its potential knowing it is faster than all the others and bet heavy.

[@cavaniatv5025]

This is funny he s sweating already 🤣

[@carramboardlover938]

😅😅 as a sports better i can feel😄

[@flaviomauri]

How was this instructional? I was expecting there would be some thought process in placing the bets. This is like watching an ex-alcoholic step back in a pub.

[@INITIALGTMR2]

2:23 me everytime I bet on racing

[@ewenhutchison841]

Lloyd finishes night on a loss Jordan's heading for skid row and the food bank.

[@illuminatiaqi6130]

Professional gambler isnt going to bet on dog racing They bet football, ice hockey, boxing, basketball

[@geoffjackson6970]

Dont worry about the 5 dog, it's gonna taste nicer than a STEAK 😂

[@jcshay8121]

I am not a professional gambler by any means but I could improve Jordan's gambling tactics very quickly. 1) never bet with the onsite bookies, always look for the best odds online via betfair/smarkets etc to maximize profits. 2) You are better off placing what are called 'lay' bets. Instead of betting on a dog or horse to win which only gives you a 1/5 chance of winning (or however many dogs or horses are running) instead bet AGAINST a dog or horse to win. Do your research and pick the worst dog/horse and bet against them winning. Sometimes upsets happen but it's like betting AGAINST Sheffield United beating Liverpool in the premier league, 99/100 times Sheffield get smashed and your bet wins.

[@makkavelli3972]

Only problem is the size of liability you have too put down when laying dogs right???

[@jcshay8121]

@@makkavelli3972 Exactly, there is always a downside to any gambling strategy. With lay betting it requires a much bigger risk or liability. To make decent money laying you have to use larger amounts of money whilst doing your research on each race and finding those horses/dogs that are there just to make up the numbers. I normally use a £2000 capital I will look at the form of each racer, let the race begin and then usually let them get a quarter to a third through the race. If my loser is still at the back or looking like their struggling to keep up I jam my money in. Being honest I only tend to make between £5 - 10 per race. But I bet on hundreds of races a day throughout the world. So I still make more than the average 9-5.

[@makkavelli3972]

Ok so when lay betting you can put ur bet on when the race has already started????

[@makkavelli3972]

Have you got an email adress i get you on please...

[@jcshay8121]

@@makkavelli3972 Yes so it's called in-play betting and you can do this on any sport. My recommendation to you would be to sign up to Smarkets or Betfairexchange and start practicing. Learn the lay outs, click on a few races wait for the start time and see what the in-play race updates look like. Then maybe do 10 practice runs where you pick a race and you google the form of all the horses or dogs in the race and pick the worst one. Then pick your horse/dog in your head to lose. Then go back to the race, wait for the start and see the updates and if your pick is at the back or falling off then you say in your head 'okay I place my bet now'. Do it ten times like that and see if you can get 10/10 correct loser picks.

[@pocnit]

Amateur gambler: loses 1k a year. Professional gambler: loses 100k a year. Watch and learn, watch and learn.

[@dazbuxton9520]

Even god would struggle to predict 3 winners at a dog track

[@maxryder6649]

T4 was no where to be seen in any of the clips 😂🤣

[@paulplayer9092]

It wasn’t running. Vacant trap. The video is a set up

[@Isleofskye]

EXACTLY........he was cheering when they went near the line and only 5 runners crossed the line without you know who ...lol

[@Chris-fk3br]

You see 4 coming out the traps and if you slow the video down you see it comes last

[@San69san]

Where was 4, it wasnt even on the track 😂

[@hortic07]

I gamble semi-professionally on greyhounds and here is what i've learnt- I spend as much time monitoring my cash flow as i do placing bets As soon as i become successful with a bookmaker i get banned I know nothing about greyhound racing and have no desire to learn any of the things most people would claim to use to win such as form, timings or track bias If people mention any of the stratagies above they are probably deginerate gamblers and serial losers

[@macrovigilance]

The real professional was the Bookie if you hadn't already worked it out.

[@MaxPower-tr9wl]

I think he needs to change his profession 😂😂

[@dribzy888]

Laughs in sample size 😂

[@markjames8070]

If he was a pro u would not bet at track . That’s the biggest no no

[@angelandsoulsoul2924]

Professional gamblers do not bet on dogs down the track they use only the exchange unless getting a better price which is virtually unheard of compared to betfair exchange prices lol

[@tudorita611]

sometimes you win some, other times you lose. Part of the game

[@sheikhando4815]

Theo Smith no I win all the time I’m a maths genius. Can convert decimals to fractions and opposite. I no match betting hit me up

[@robertgiacomo2655]

Hadn't worked for three years, now cooking steak burgers in burger king.

[@bobikdylan]

Going to the dogs is a great night out, but unless you have solid inside information it's a mug's game for betting.

[@hanniballecterspsychiatris8613]

I've seen professional gamblers at work. Really disciplined people, none of this chuck a few quid at a race malarkey, if it loses it doesn't bother me mentality. They punt once or twice, and they punt big. That's professionalism.

[@Isleofskye]

I don't know the inside story of this programme or whether he was refunded his losses. IF NOT he made just about every mistake in the Book. Firstly sending an Amateur in who does not understand betting percentages. That 500/200 bet he placed was diabolical value. 2nd fav =5/2 when there is also a 3/1 and 7/2 there. They bet 7/2, 10, 5/2, 5, 3, 2. which is 133% ( Freeze it @ 51 seconds ) so no value at all and on Betfair they bet to 0% NOT 33% but you pay up to 5% Commission (mine is 2% ). The Exchanges are BACKERS Markets. If you placed your bet on the Exchanges they would bet 5 , 16 , 7/2 , 8, 4, and 5/2.......SAME DOGS.SAME RACE.

[@rogermoore3991]

Lmao this guy isnt a professional gambler, i can tell. 😅

[@jimtheburrito4080]

Was 4 even running in that race

[@aurielle7766]

well this was boring

[@Isleofskye]

It was a total mishmash. They were cheering Trap 4 and there was no Trap 4 in sight....!

[@jaimedelgado7529]

Im guessing he ate ramen noodles that night

[@seanvarian4578]

1:26 It was at this point the bet was jinxed..

[@alan-zl7ee]

The only professional gambler will always be the bankers!! Save your money invest in yourself and education and the most important your health!!!

[@barnabydinosaurroadsafetyp3457]

full time gambling extremely difficult but some do make a living not many though - best of luck to them

[@lildusty1017]

This guy could make profit lay betting 😆

[@panagiotismaris2775]

hahgaa

[@jimtheburrito4080]

The one it cut to there was no 4 dog

[@pcoldlight5631]

Betting is a mugs game for 99.99% end of.

[@snitchsnitch5226]

Ive gamble on horses abd dogs for years ..my best tip when betting on dogs is simple and pays well with no work involved ..all you do is look at racing posts selections for each race they mite say Trap 3 win Trap 6 danger Trap 1 nb All you do is back trap 6 and 1 to win singles plus a a RFC 6/1 .. Do that every race your see it works well ..test it with £2 stake each race £2 each dog to win plus 50p rfc

[@shaunw8533]

Poor guy. Professional gamblers are just addicts in denial.

[@badbeatbilly8997]

Here in the states there are 8 dogs in a race.

[@stephensawyers74]

Don’t care what anybody says there is only 1 fuckin winner, I no first hand , professional my arse

[@amonksfield3126]

So many begrudgers on here! Obviously not single one of you understand the concept! If he won £1200 the following day he’s in profit. The other thing that really does my head in is the fact that the boys in the city aren’t regarded as gamblers. It is exactly the same particularly now we have exchanges. If this vid was about day trading on the city everyone would be applauding! Apart from obviously the green grilled type that just hate to see someone doing better than themselves!!

[@superfinster]

Professional MUG !

[@notyetskeletal4809]

yay. As realistic as it can be. I quit gambling. Was very hard to even get myself to stop. It raped me. This year I counted a loss of $900. Thats peanuts compared to the year before. Have managed to buy a lot of the things back that I sold to get by. Haven't done it for months.

[@thailanduncensored2669]

There may be professional gamblers out there but not one of them is stupid enough to bet on dogs

[@calumdunn4701]

Win some lose some, onto the next race !!!

[@markmurray9247]

Life's a gamble , my self I'm waiting on France for 5k,

[@arsenalmanic]

The poor dog! Rescue the greyhounds from this. Shut down dog racing, and also horse racing.

[@MichaelAhio]

He clearly couldn't afford to lose that