What Happens When You Wire Speakers Backwards?

  Рет қаралды 1,907,784

Audio University

Audio University

Күн бұрын

Пікірлер: 2 800
@Enjoymentboy
@Enjoymentboy 10 ай бұрын
I learned about the importance of polarity when I was young. I received a ghetto blaster for xmas and I was shocked that AM radio sounded so much better than FM. AM was in mono and only came from the left speaker but FM being stereo came from both. My natural curiosity got the better of me and I opened it up 2 days after getting it. My mother was furious. I had no idea what I was doing or should be looking for but I knew the difference between positive and negative and colour coding. I saw the left speaker was wired white to + and black to - which seemed normal to me. But the right speaker was wired white to - and black to + which seemed wrong. I had already been soldering for a few years so I desoldered the wires from the right speaker, switched them and soldered them again. I put it on FM and was amazed at how good it sounded. My mother was so happy that it worked but still never gave me any credit for fixing/improving my gift. For years she would say "Do you remember that xmas you took apart your radio?" and I would always ask her if she remembered that not only did I put it back together but that it was better than when I had taken it apart. Never got any credit for that.
@PauldeVries
@PauldeVries 10 ай бұрын
Hope you kept that thought process in your older years. You did what 99% of the people won't bother with these days and just throw it away.
@Enjoymentboy
@Enjoymentboy 10 ай бұрын
@@PauldeVries I still regularly take things apart. Often only to see what's inside. I've gotten a LOT better at putting them back together again as well. lol But yes, 99% of the time I will try and fix it. I'm cheap and would much rather spend a couple of bucks on parts and a little bit of time instead of tossing it out and replacing it. That's one thing my grandparents taught me: Repair it until it can't be repaired any longer and then salvage whatever parts you can and repurpose what can't be salvaged.
@PauldeVries
@PauldeVries 10 ай бұрын
​@@Enjoymentboy Yes, things are more useful than meets the eye sometimes. Hope you gave yourself credits for that ;)
@exshenanigan2333
@exshenanigan2333 10 ай бұрын
Pretty sure she would have given you credit if someone had thought her how and why to do it. Don't think she intentionally held back on giving you credit. But yeah man, sometimes those unimportant moments for adults can become lifelong memories for kids.
@PauldeVries
@PauldeVries 10 ай бұрын
@@exshenanigan2333 well said
@philipcaron6805
@philipcaron6805 10 ай бұрын
If you wire your speakers backwards and listen to country music, the guy actually gets back his horse, his job and his wife
@hockeyman2274
@hockeyman2274 10 ай бұрын
LMAO 😂
@trog69
@trog69 10 ай бұрын
Yes, but now his existential angst is too much to handle, thus Emo is his new jams.
@MervynPartin
@MervynPartin 10 ай бұрын
And if you are listening to Blues music, all the above plus it stops raining.
@wallacegrommet9343
@wallacegrommet9343 10 ай бұрын
Plus, he quits drinking
@larrybremer4930
@larrybremer4930 10 ай бұрын
you forgot his truck
@deanevangelista6359
@deanevangelista6359 Ай бұрын
My friend installed his new car battery backwards. Afterwards, his horn sucked, his headlights cast shadows, and his radio listened.
@weiss-vonnix4519
@weiss-vonnix4519 Ай бұрын
🤣🤣🤣👍👍👍👍👍
@nonamejustbecause-b9k
@nonamejustbecause-b9k Ай бұрын
TOO FUNNY!!!LMAO!!!!
@shadowlord0162
@shadowlord0162 Ай бұрын
This one is creative. I like it
@3649yR
@3649yR Ай бұрын
How to turn an internal combustion engine car into an electric car (using a generator as an engine)
@TheCassiusTain
@TheCassiusTain Ай бұрын
@@3649yR nah, it's an external combustion engine now
@junaidfazlani04
@junaidfazlani04 28 күн бұрын
6:50 this is how active noise cancellation works. The earphones/headphones capture the sounds playing in your surrounding with the mic, reverse it's polarity and play it to your ears, resulting in cancellation of the background noise
@bramweinreder2346
@bramweinreder2346 15 күн бұрын
That's exactly right. Typically, noise cancelling headphones have an analog mic wired to the system in reverse polarity so that the speakers in your headphones create a negative version of those sound waves in real time.
@hope4ourfallen
@hope4ourfallen 3 күн бұрын
​@@bramweinreder2346Thank you to both you and the original poster you replied to. That was cools insight on a topic I never woulda known about. Pretty awesome to learn how it works.
@TonyMartello
@TonyMartello Ай бұрын
Great vid. Last year I had one of my main speakers wired out of polarity. I had a mate over (who works in audio) to tune my subs. He listened for about 10secs and said 'I think your wiring is out of polarity' and of course it was. When I corrected it the only noticeable difference was the imaging, the sound quality was the same but the voice was no longer smeared, it was positioned. Always learning, thanks!
@noahman27
@noahman27 10 ай бұрын
Years ago, I found I had accidentally wired one of my two subwoofers in reverse (in my mobile DJ rig). When I saw how I had screwed it up, I laughed so hard! I had been struggling for several months with my system - asking myself, "Why can I hear the base coming out of each sub when I stand right in front of it but when I move to the center of the dance floor, I don't hear or feel it?" No amount of EQing or compression made any difference. When I saw I had the cable to one sub wired backwards (positive to negative and negative to positive), man oh man, I was relieved. I still laugh today thinking about it.
@wil-fri
@wil-fri 10 ай бұрын
So you experienced wave cancellation by first hand 😂
@BrettDalton
@BrettDalton 10 ай бұрын
I worked on a recording system that sounded perfectly fine but when you tried to record you got nothing. Someone wired one of the inputs backwards so the mono signals from the mic were being cancelled.... The tech who installed it couldn't figure it out for 2 weeks.
@noahman27
@noahman27 10 ай бұрын
@@BrettDaltonLOL!! It happens to the best of us
@EconID
@EconID 10 ай бұрын
Haha that's a good laugh. I mean in the sense that we've all made simple mistakes but genuinely bothered us. Then we happen to stumble upon the solution like it felt sorry for us lmao
@bfbunny
@bfbunny 10 ай бұрын
Bro’s made of positivity👍
@ardonjr
@ardonjr 10 ай бұрын
Fun fact: I once installed a dual subwoofer setup in my Nissan 100NX (yes it's been a while) .. After installation I played some subwoofer test music and was disapointed by the lack of bass from the subwoofers. I didn't understand, I had two subwoofers and still heard almost nothing. It was at this point I thought about polarity and I changed the phase setting (on one of the amplifiers). It was at this moment I learned that I should not have done that while the system was running a subwoofer bass test on 80% volume. The moment I flipped that switch I was scared to death, the system was playing so load suddenly. Learned some lessons that day!
@ivanf4023
@ivanf4023 10 ай бұрын
My college roommate blew out his rear glass because he was trying a test and realized a wire came loose or something. Suddenly bbbrrrrrrrtttttt and he was covered in little glass cubes.
@TwinShards
@TwinShards 10 ай бұрын
Both subwoofer were trading the airflow they were producing.
@runnergo1398
@runnergo1398 10 ай бұрын
After I saw a friend of mine fry his car amp doing what you did, I always turn off the power before switching wires around.
@jimross2101
@jimross2101 9 ай бұрын
I had an NX2000.
@psxtuneservice
@psxtuneservice 9 ай бұрын
Out of principal you should only do wiring with everything turned on 😂....we did that with our cncs also😮
@don7680
@don7680 10 ай бұрын
Very simply, when one speaker is out of phase (wired backwards) in a stereo system, they cancel each other out. Mainly heard in the lower frequencies, but also affecting image and sound staging.
@rimmersbryggeri
@rimmersbryggeri 10 ай бұрын
It's heard in all frequencies that are pannes with an identical signal to both speakers. It's the same as a common mode interference supressor in a balanced signal chain. There is usually just one bass and bass drums are usually not panned so that is why they dissapear more than other instruments, has nothing to do with them being low frequency though.
@NeovanGoth
@NeovanGoth 10 ай бұрын
I once played at a psytrance party where one of two subs was wired incorrectly, resulting in the bass literally disappearing right in the middle of the dance floor. 😂 Since is was open air, you hadn't even echoes from walls. Super weird.
@rimmersbryggeri
@rimmersbryggeri 10 ай бұрын
@@NeovanGoth The person that made those speaker cables really messed up. Should never happen in a PA system since the speaker cabler are hard wired unless there is a phaze switch somewhere in the system.
@markmarkofkane8167
@markmarkofkane8167 10 ай бұрын
I heard about phase back in the 70's. I don't recall being able to hear a difference, but I didn't have speakers that reproduced heavy bass. I've always tried to wire correctly anyway.
@EdKolis
@EdKolis 10 ай бұрын
Is this how noise cancelling headphones work? They layer on top of your audio an inverted waveform of whatever ambient sound you're hearing?
@maxjefferison1654
@maxjefferison1654 Ай бұрын
Whoever said they can hear a difference with the snare drum is either lying or their brain is playing a trick on them.
@Ryion54
@Ryion54 7 күн бұрын
imo the higher frecuencies sound VERY SLIGHTLY louder
@Dadzilla2
@Dadzilla2 9 ай бұрын
This just happened to of popped up on my KZbin. I spent many years in the automotive stereo industry, starting out very young. I could never hear the difference AS long as everything was wired the same. But wire one speaker wrong in a stereo system and you most assuredly can and will hear it. That was almost 40 years when I started, and nothing much has changed. Very important to get it right and right the first time. Nothing worse than having that person coming back because you got it wrong.
@NNITRED
@NNITRED 9 ай бұрын
At live events you'll often see arrays or fills aimed backstage and wired out of phase. This cancels the sound from monitors and main PA. While the crowd is getting blasted. The crew backstage can speak normally and often don't need ear pro while working. They do the same thing to create "dead zones" in large clubs - areas like the lounge or the bar. Those speakers over the bar that don't appear to be on are actually doing a big job. Theme parks even use phase cancellation to kill mechanical noise.
@SPECTRA890
@SPECTRA890 Ай бұрын
That's incredible. Had no idea people can apply this on this way
@sutchsteve
@sutchsteve 10 ай бұрын
If you have two stereo speakers wired with opposite polarity (a.k.a half a cycle out of phase), you get an interesting effect because the signals cancel each other out in a fringe pattern which generally makes it feel like the sound is coming from around or behind you, because it will bounce off the room walls before it reaches your ears. This effect is used in legend of zelda ocarina of time for the sound of the townspeople in the castle town courtyard, and in the movie twelve monkeys for the mystery voice he hears in his head Flipping the polarity of one of the channels in a pop song can also work as a useful hack to get something approximating an instrumental version of the track, because generally the vocal is dead centre but the backing is not so the vocal gets cancelled out
@c0wqu3u31at3r
@c0wqu3u31at3r 9 ай бұрын
my science teacher did this in school with speakers out of phase and made us walk around the room, the volume changed depending on where you were in the room because of the phase cancellation
@DanEvans-f8f
@DanEvans-f8f 9 ай бұрын
But that messes with the "dubbing" The effect is still in play when recorded, and requires micro editing in the DAW where cancelations occur in track adding... Someone once suggested changing the waveform, but it's still the inverse frequency loss to deal with.
@-DeScruff
@-DeScruff 9 ай бұрын
I seem to recall an old CD player stereo my sister got for Christmas had this as a feature? (I think it was intended as a Karaoke mode?) I don't remember much other then it was weird to child me for the vocals to just all the sudden disappear like the vocals were on some different audio channel getting disabled.
@BASSstarlet
@BASSstarlet 9 ай бұрын
If you mess with polarities you'll destroy low freqs and some mids as well
@ClansmanK
@ClansmanK 9 ай бұрын
Zackley
@Ungroovy03
@Ungroovy03 10 ай бұрын
This is the best audio engineering channel on KZbin.
@annoynymouse1146
@annoynymouse1146 10 ай бұрын
Facts
@Ungroovy03
@Ungroovy03 10 ай бұрын
Anyways, thanks for the suggestion!@@corporealundead
@randolphpatterson5061
@randolphpatterson5061 Күн бұрын
Not all speaker terminals are color-coded for polarity correctly, and some speaker terminals have no polarity markings at all. If you have a speaker and don't know which terminals are which, use a (weak/mostly-discharged) 9V battery and briefly connect the speaker to it. When the cone pushes forward (toward the listener), it means the positive terminal is connected to the battery's positive terminal. Knowing this, you can now mark the positive terminal with a red marker for future reference. I hope this helps.
@trentstewart2558
@trentstewart2558 Ай бұрын
You have a gift, dude. I spent decades in the professional audio industry having been born into it with my father coming before me. And you have generated over one and a half million hits to this video sharing something I've known since I was in grade school. This isn't me criticizing you, it's me applauding you. To be able to do this, it's a gift. Things I took for granted surprise me often. I had inherited a half dozen JBL Professional transformers. So common in our shop were these, I literally thought they were garbage For giggles, put one up for sale on ebay years ago. They started stabbing each other to obtain it. Ended up getting $200 for something I almost threw away and had five more of. Just one example of a pleasant surprise. You should do a video on impedance matching. Reversing the polarity of speaker isn't something that commonly happens with polarity marked on the speakers or speakers with wiring included having these wires color coated. You are correct in stating it does and does not matter if reversed. As a professional, it absolutely matters. Nothing would scream amatuer louder than having screwed up the obvious. Doesn't matter in typical two speaker stereo systems much because two independent channels, etc. But impedance matching of speakers to amplifiers is not well known at all. Yet is simple and straight forward. And very important. The common person is typically power output motivated when it comes to amplifiers and sound systems. Yet, they are ignorant to what they are referring to because all they know is what salesman tell them. Salesman are always motivated by making bigger, better, and more sales. Usually equally as ignorant as the end user. So, more, more, more and bragging rights for power output rules the world. Which makes any video you would offer on proper impedance matching that much more relevant to the common consumer of audio amplification and sound reproduction equipment. You're a good presenter. Don't know your background in audio. You may be another KZbin creator who presents him or herself as expert, but the we and us they often use to make them look like a great big rolling railroad is non existent. I can hear them justifying the terms used by saying they were referring to their wife/husband or baby children. Can't blame anyone for trying. Impedance matching is necessary to get all the wattage you thought you really needed when you bought that big power amp or stereo system that put out all that advertised power to actually be used. If the output rating of an amp is 4 ohms for example. Let's clarify at 4 ohms per channel, to get the 100 advertised watts of power per channel you paid for, you need to match the input impedance of the speakers to it. 4 ohm amplifier output to 4 ohm speaker input means all 100 watts of power is available. Impedance mismatches will still make the amplifier's power output available, but in lesser percentages than advertised. Same example of amplifier with 8 ohm speaker. The mismatch is a factor of two or half. The 100 watts would not be available and only half this, 50 watts, would be. It's always a reduction in advertised power not an increase. So another speaker, listed as having a 2 ohm impedance input connected to the same 100 watt, 4 ohm rated amplifier output, would also produce half the 100 watts of power available and 50 watts of power tops. Start mixing multiple speakers per channel and that's another complexity all together but on the same level. Since impedance is basically the resistance measurement of an ac device, it increases and decreases in rating same as resistance does. Put two 8 ohm speakers in parallel, and the amplifier does not see 8 ohms but 4 ohms. Put the same speakers in series, now the amplifier sees 16 ohms. In this scenario, on a 100 watt power amplifier with a 4 ohm output, the most you'll see from that 100 watts of power you have is 25 watts being 4 is one forth of 16. Always lose power from mismatches, never gain. Sorry to lecture. I'm old and too much to do, nothing I really want to. Thanks.
@keithbroughton4476
@keithbroughton4476 10 ай бұрын
On a side note, the term phase and polarity are often used to describe the same thing but are actually different. Polarity inversion (flip or swap)is what is described in this video and is a 180 degree phase inversion. It is possible to have phase discrepancies that are not a full 180 degrees.
@fantasticsound2085
@fantasticsound2085 10 ай бұрын
Also, polarity is a reversal of a physical or electrical connection that results in a 180° phase shift. Many issues can create phase shift. Polarity reversal is just one that has a singular shift.
@exshenanigan2333
@exshenanigan2333 10 ай бұрын
you must be fun at parties.
@TimpBizkit
@TimpBizkit 9 ай бұрын
You can but they will be different at all frequencies. Simply having one speaker further away from your ears than another will give you a phase change - could be partial or the full 180 depending on frequency.
@rcarlberg
@rcarlberg 9 ай бұрын
Yes but phase shift varies with frequency, so you cannot simply apply it to music as a way to counteract poorly-wired speakers.
@timotejsuvak9979
@timotejsuvak9979 9 ай бұрын
exactly
@Steve_K2
@Steve_K2 9 ай бұрын
Having some education in electronics and a half century experience with home stereo, I can't say I learned from the video. But oh how I enjoyed seeing it explained so well. This young man has a gift for explanation.
@kansaspetes8708
@kansaspetes8708 7 ай бұрын
I like that it was explained without assuming every member of the audience already knew the basics. People often skip the basics, and those are so important in building a good foundational knowledge. I agree. He did a great job, and his voice is calm and soothing. He makes good eye contact, and speaks without ums and ahs.
@AudioUniversity
@AudioUniversity 7 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@ramdhane
@ramdhane 7 ай бұрын
Yeah you are right bro, all people can broadcast information however what make difference is the Way of delivering that information. This respectful Guy touched the top of perfection in his explanation.
@markgigiel2722
@markgigiel2722 10 ай бұрын
It's actually fun to experiment with out of phase speakers and placement. If they are directly facing each other with the listener in between, you get a push-pull effect that's pretty cool. It depends on the spacing and frequencies as well.
@maxine_q
@maxine_q 10 ай бұрын
I hate that effect. Gives me a weird feeling in my ears.
@jnawk83
@jnawk83 10 ай бұрын
Deafening silence
@a64738
@a64738 10 ай бұрын
@@jnawk83 You do not get silence, only damped bass and the higher frequencies is pretty much unaffected but with weird / cool sound effects of "sound phasing".
@Patrick-857
@Patrick-857 9 ай бұрын
It can result in a kind of "fake stereo" effect. When I was a kid I got a kick out of doing that. Even better was setting up an AM radio and FM radio on the same station (here in NZ at the time we had stations that broadcasted on both) for whatever reason there was a significant time difference between the two, causing a fairly extreme slapback echo effect. It was a trip.
@sphygo
@sphygo 11 күн бұрын
It took until 4:12 to understand that the symbol you were using was supposed to represent "inverted". The circle with a line through means "diameter" and I use that almost daily for engineering drawings. I was so confused how that was related lol.
@wolfguy423
@wolfguy423 21 күн бұрын
You explained it in a way that was pretty easy to understand, and I actually learned something. Thank you.
@steamer2k319
@steamer2k319 10 ай бұрын
You should take a pair of those linear transducers and have them agitate a shallow pool of ~dyed water. In theory, we should be able to see how the delay required to propagate the signals through the media affect constructive and destructive interference at different frequencies, distances, polarities, etc.
@AudioUniversity
@AudioUniversity 10 ай бұрын
Cool idea!
@raymota4515
@raymota4515 10 ай бұрын
I used the "Chaldini" plates with small metal slivers and video taped them in the 80's. I recall Velvet Underground being quite interesting.
@rojirrim7298
@rojirrim7298 9 ай бұрын
Installing a stroboscope illuminating the water at the same frequency as the waves, will also make it so that the waves appear stationary, so the differences can be pictured better
@jeffreyblack666
@jeffreyblack666 9 ай бұрын
@@rojirrim7298 I think showing the agitation of the water would be better. Otherwise, when you have a spot with looks like it hasn't moved is that because it cancels or because it just isn't moving at that point. Alternatively, the stroboscope slightly off frequency, so you can see the waves moving and interacting.
@yourhandlehere1
@yourhandlehere1 9 ай бұрын
huh huh....you said words.
@mirfd
@mirfd 10 ай бұрын
Coincidentally last week I was installing an home theater in my room (the old style one, not a sound bar) and I was wondering why the speakers had polarity and I was very afraid of inverting wires. Now everything is very clear. Thanks for the video!
@HxThomison
@HxThomison Ай бұрын
Nice, a real home theater! I hope you enjoy your build. I just got a pair of TAD 1601c, some altec 288c, and gauss 1502 drivers /horns. My wife vehemently refused to let them near the living room, so down to the Home Theater they went! The kids love it
@azy6868
@azy6868 9 ай бұрын
When you listen to the initial hit of a kick drum there is a definite change of sound and feel with a single speaker wired with reverse polarity. Especially with a PA sub system that covers the 25Hz range. If everything is wired correctly you should feel the air hitting your chest. If the sub polarity is reversed then the kick drum completely loses it's impact. This because the first positive peak of the sine wave is the largest and sound pressure waves in compression have better projection than ratification of sound waves.
@konstantinpalkin2177
@konstantinpalkin2177 8 ай бұрын
Absolutely correct. I was going to post similar comment. If that would be no difference at all then drummer can put his kick pedal in front of bass drum and play that way. But nobody ever played such way in a music history for obvious reason. You need LF sound kick to propagate toward audience. However I agree that it would be no difference in mid and high freq ranges.
@juniorsilvabroadcast
@juniorsilvabroadcast 7 ай бұрын
very important !
@brandyballoon
@brandyballoon 7 ай бұрын
This. Difference between a pressure wave and a lack of pressure wave.
@keithmoriyama5421
@keithmoriyama5421 7 ай бұрын
If that were remotely true JBL would have never wired their bass drivers reverse polarity.
@dirtydirk69
@dirtydirk69 7 ай бұрын
@@keithmoriyama5421 😂
@jonmars9559
@jonmars9559 Ай бұрын
That is a question I have pondered for years. I appreciate how clearly you explain a subject in such a concise and orderly fashion. My autistic brain totally gets it.
@ronaldhillhouse8860
@ronaldhillhouse8860 7 ай бұрын
We used a battery to figure out the polarity of the speakers;when trouble shooting a previous installation. A dead give away is solid bass when turned to one channel or the other, but when balanced no bass out of either indicates inverted polarity on one or more speakers depending upon setup. Our shop used to troubleshoot a lot of other shops work. Motor noise used to be a huge issue for some shops.
@jasonschubert6828
@jasonschubert6828 9 ай бұрын
In a world of misinformation, particularly on audio, this channel is such a breath of fresh air! Superbly explained too.
@PunakiviAddikti
@PunakiviAddikti 8 ай бұрын
The "audiophiles" as they call themselves are also incredibly toxic. Ask any questions and you'll get smugly talked down to for not knowing. Disagree with them and you'll get the most vile insults. Stay far away from them.
@Axymerion
@Axymerion 7 ай бұрын
​@@PunakiviAddikti Not only will you get ridiculed for not knowing, but you'll be buried under a mountain of wildly inaccurate or downright wrong information right after.
@MTRX2011
@MTRX2011 9 ай бұрын
i was taught this about 30yrs ago from some sound engineers for both studio and live situations. there's also been several articles in guitar magazine about this because especially important to the life of your gear and what's going to go on record. the last interview i read about this was from one of the sound engineers who worked on crew for Jimmy Hendrix on tour. it is as follows: when you wires your speakers backwards your cones hit in reverse. the initial blast from the speaker, i.e. that first vibration should always be the cone pushing outwards to deliver that first hit. when you wire them backwards the cones take a breath instead. i.e. pull in instead of pushing forward. that's going to affect the sound quality and volume of your session and speakers. if you got several amps going and one is in reverse, your phase is going to be messed up. it won't be something crazy like a full cancellation but your signals won't be balanced. over time, if the speakers are wired in reverse, the initial hit from your speakers will lead to damage from always sucking in at first instead of blowing outwards.
@jamesm90
@jamesm90 7 ай бұрын
That last bit is wrong. The coil and therefore cone excursion is held in an equilibrium and the availability of excursions in and out are the same therefore there is not any damage to the speaker that sucks in first. It does that hundreds or thousands of times, a second anyway.
@TiqueO6
@TiqueO6 7 ай бұрын
@@jamesm90 I wonder if damping circuits are expecting specific phase on the initial signal and could that have something to do with whether or not the damping is effective on the first impulse? I suppose this would be most of the concern for powerful low and very low end signals like sub-bass since now we're concerned with these things down to 5 CPSand such
@onmyworkbench7000
@onmyworkbench7000 10 ай бұрын
Back in the mid 1970's I worked installing PA systems in a grocery store chain, the system was a 70 volt system that was used to play mono background music when it was not being use for announcements. The speakers were mounted in the ceiling of the stores and to keep the speakers from canceling one another out we had to space the speaker properly to take in account the delay of the audio from each of the speakers and we had to switch the polarity of each of the speakers because of that delay to keep them in phase with one another. This was to minimize the locations in the shopping aisle that presented cancellation zones. It worked very good.
@davidmacphee3549
@davidmacphee3549 10 ай бұрын
Fascinating. I worked on that stuff too.
@TimpBizkit
@TimpBizkit 9 ай бұрын
Although music is all different frequencies, so there's no one distinct phase change, so may as well just keep all the speakers in phase imo.
@davidmacphee3549
@davidmacphee3549 9 ай бұрын
Yes. But you guys make me think about something here but not here. We don't have it. Let me imagine this for a moment or so .. Can't we have a button on our so, advanced remote that we can flip polarity around?
@davidmacphee3549
@davidmacphee3549 9 ай бұрын
You have to do the math between the ohms of the speakers and series and parallel loads on the amp. You just can't hook them all up in parallel like most people would. Thankfully those days of problems are loin behind me. Uh I meant long behind me. Same thing I guess, oh well.
@onmyworkbench7000
@onmyworkbench7000 9 ай бұрын
@@TimpBizkit You are correct that music is all different frequencies, but when you reverse the polarity of one speaker you are reversing or changing the phase of all of the frequencies to that speaker in relation to the other speakers by 180 degrees, so *_PHASE MATTERS._*
@paulh2981
@paulh2981 9 ай бұрын
Extremely clear and methodical explanation. Well done.
@grumpy3543
@grumpy3543 5 ай бұрын
Thank you for this. I learned about out of phase speakers in the late 70’s when I took audio engineering classes. It’s hard to explain to the layman. You did it perfectly. You could also add that it’s similar to the way noise canceling headphones work.
@jocrp6
@jocrp6 9 ай бұрын
Every time I wired up my speakers backward's,, They wouldn't play but only listened.
@captainmoretokin2172
@captainmoretokin2172 6 ай бұрын
once somebody put the batteries in backwards on the energizer bunny, and he kept coming and coming and coming.
@WarrenPenner
@WarrenPenner 6 ай бұрын
LOL! Seriously! bahahahahahaaaa! *Dad Jokes
@minusmartin
@minusmartin 5 ай бұрын
Sometimes that's just what we need
@GraysonLang
@GraysonLang 10 ай бұрын
I don’t think it was mentioned in the video, so I just wanted to add that the common naming when speakers are wired the same is “in phase” and when they are wired with different polarities is “out of phase”. There are some interesting acoustic characteristics when speakers are wired out of phase in a home listening environment where the sound seems to appear diffuse and almost like it’s “floating around your head” with no distinct source. There are some fun examples elsewhere on KZbin where you can listen to in-phase and out-of-phase white noise that demonstrate this.
@fantasticsound2085
@fantasticsound2085 10 ай бұрын
What you describe results because vocals and other instruments that are intended to be front and center experience more interference than those panned more to one side or another because they are essentially equal in each speaker. This causes more cancellation of anything in the center.
@Angellus502
@Angellus502 10 ай бұрын
Im not 100% sure I am correct, but i heard somewhere over the years that some high end speaker manufacturers using a lot of X-over points design speaker cabs with the low bass drivers intentionaly wired 180 degrees out of phase to take advantage of this phenomenon and give the low end a wider sound stage
@fantasticsound2085
@fantasticsound2085 10 ай бұрын
@@Angellus502 Interesting idea, however, I wonder about this. Bass frequencies are extremely problematic when out of phase between multiple speakers. I would expect dissonant artifacts that would be anything but audiophile, from such a setup. I don't know the specific acoustic properties, but in the concert PA world, it's fairly common now to physically reverse several of the subwoofer boxes, but not to create phase artifacts. It's done to acoustically cancel bass frequencies behind the subwoofes. It's the speaker equivalent to phase ports on the back of directional microphone capsules. The steers the bass towards the audience and away from the stage where it can be problematic vibrating the performers, their gear, and the microphones on amplifiers and other instruments.
@GarryNichols
@GarryNichols 10 ай бұрын
Right foot first or left it doesn't matter unless you want to coordinate with another. Just like dancing.
@codahighland
@codahighland 9 ай бұрын
Until you step on your partner's foot.
@nobody7817
@nobody7817 9 ай бұрын
@@codahighlandThat would impede the good ol' rhythm, no?
@BeforeAndAfterScience
@BeforeAndAfterScience 9 ай бұрын
Dancing is sinful.
@nobody7817
@nobody7817 9 ай бұрын
@@BeforeAndAfterScienceI guess Psalm 149:3 is sinful then... maybe the Bible is sinful. Maybe God is sinful. Maybe God is Satan...and Satan is God.
@nobody7817
@nobody7817 9 ай бұрын
@@BeforeAndAfterScienceNo Scientist makes such an open ended statement without qualifying the parameters thereof.
@rosauroruz2928
@rosauroruz2928 Ай бұрын
Very clear sir,,I didn't knew that,except that when speakers wire is reverse,the sounds not centered and separated to properly polarized speakers,,that's why polarity is very important in wiring speakers..
@williamjones7821
@williamjones7821 Ай бұрын
Thank you, yes. I'm currently (November 2024) in the process of upgrading my car stereo (2002 Saturn) with an aftermarket SONY head unit. I'm paying careful attention to get positive and negative wires hooked up correctly to the speakers. When I'm finished, I'll put in my "test CD" of sounds released by DENON years ago (including IN PHASE and OUT OF PHASE sounds). I'm sure I'll notice the difference.
@grabasandwich
@grabasandwich 10 ай бұрын
I noticed a difference in sound decades ago on my Dad's stereo. Maybe it's not noticeable on headphones, but if the speakers are far enough apart, the inverted wiring caused it to sound very hollow.
@You-can-fix-it-yourself
@You-can-fix-it-yourself 9 ай бұрын
The inverse wiring can be tailored to a room. If you hold dinner parties and want background music, but not so that it overcomes conversation, then put your stereo speakers behind the furniture, but wire one backwards. The people seated can hear the music, but the people standing cannot (or significantly reduced). Also, putting a microphone in your car, and playing the inverse wave back over the speakers will soften the road noise. Great video.
@jokerwetter4066
@jokerwetter4066 Ай бұрын
Noise cancellation in a car I love the idea
@maik5825
@maik5825 10 ай бұрын
It's possible to isolate the voice in all songs that have a similar instrumental version by inverting one of the two audio files. It doesn't work perfectly because of audio compression and sometimes the original song includes more or less sounds than the instrumental. But with a bit of luck you can get pretty good results.
@quaztron
@quaztron 9 ай бұрын
Playing the difference between channels (left minus right) usually cancels out the lead vocal and the bass because the lead vocal and bass are usually mixed dead-center. You get some of the instruments and some of the harmony vocals. It can be mildly amazing. Try it on Olivia Newton-John tunes (she's almost a choir). "Saturday in the Park" by Chicago some surprises that cancellation brings to the front.
@rcarlberg
@rcarlberg 9 ай бұрын
@@quaztron It all depends on the mixing. Many recordings, to save money or because the engineers have tin ears, record the vocals or guitar solos or bass monaurally, and then pan them to the center of the mix. With a single monaural source it's relatively easy to inject a 180º opposite and thus cancel out the original. With true stereo recordings, not so easy.
@SeekerGoldstone
@SeekerGoldstone 9 ай бұрын
​@@rcarlberg Just flatten the stereo signal to mono...
@SeekerGoldstone
@SeekerGoldstone 9 ай бұрын
​@@rcarlberg Just flatten the stereo signal to mono
@klpittman1
@klpittman1 Ай бұрын
Discovered noise cancelling microphones in the mid 70's while working with CB radios. Used a similar effect to cancel out noise but you had to speak directly into the microphone. Tilting it 15 or 20 degrees in any direction effectively cancelled out the user as well as the background noise.
@Edward135i
@Edward135i 33 минут бұрын
It will be out of phase and shrink your soundstage to almost nothing, also you'll notice a lack of bass. Out of phase speakers actually do have their place a dipole speaker has one speaker in phase and the other out of phase there placed in a wedge shaped cabinet that mounts to the wall. what this does is created a very wide sound stage with a null in the middle when your directly facing the speaker. These types of speakers are often used for side channels in a surround sound setup where you want sound on the side but you don't want to focus on that sound because it would be distracting from the main LCR speakers.
@majorbuzz
@majorbuzz 10 ай бұрын
Many, many years ago (like 1970s), I installed 2 speakers in my car's front doors for my Pioneer Super Tuner stereo system. Somewhere, I saw an article about adding a 3rd speaker and mounting it on the rear deck of the car. I took a positive lead from the left and right channels and connected them to the 3rd speaker. Whether or not or was good for the electronics, I don't know, but it made for an interesting effect since the only sound coming from the 3rd speaker was the difference between the 2 channels. Like sounds were filtered out.
@dom_xi-dzopa720
@dom_xi-dzopa720 10 ай бұрын
would this still work or would it be obsolete with newer technology?, im sure i can look this up but i want your opinion and im a little lazy
@majorbuzz
@majorbuzz 10 ай бұрын
@@dom_xi-dzopa720 I think it would still work. The signal going to the speakers is analog.
@russellbride
@russellbride 10 ай бұрын
It works... Poor man's surround sound...
@stephens2984
@stephens2984 9 ай бұрын
this was pseudo quadrophonic sound system developed by a bloke called Hafler. i have had my stereo setup like this using 2 speakers for the rear wired in series but opposite polarity since the seventy's.
@steeleslicer1217
@steeleslicer1217 9 ай бұрын
What a flashback! I had a 1970 Mustang Mach 1 with a Pioneer Supertuner hooked up to a Pioneer 100W amp. 2 bookshelf speakers with 8 in woofers seatbelted in the back seat, each with about 30 feet of wire. When we were hanging out at the park, speakers spread apart and awesome tunes!
@CubeEarthTheory
@CubeEarthTheory 9 ай бұрын
I'm a retired mobile electronics installer of over 40 years. About 50% of systems installed by "professionals" are out of phase.
@James-eg3nf
@James-eg3nf 10 ай бұрын
I saw a perfect example of this in application - there’s a documentary on making of Metallica’s Black Album where the sound engineers had James Hetfield sing in a booth with two monitors wired in opposite phase so that the mic would only pick up his voice. He was having trouble wearing headphones for some reason. It was truly mind blowing how this worked.
@LRK-GT
@LRK-GT 10 ай бұрын
I've felt headphones change my head shape, and damage hair follicles. I'm going to have to play with this, someday.
@davidrobertson1980
@davidrobertson1980 9 ай бұрын
Actually if you wire your headphones backwards and out of phase with the earth's magnetic field, it causes and aluminum foil hat to grow right out of your head between the hairs, this is fed from the years and years of using underarm deodorants and taking excessive jabs (those "j's" especially as hey go right to the brain which is in close proximity) to the "hat" growing area! Napoleon Hill was experimenting with this, you can tell from his pictures, even tho b&w.... you can see the tell tale peak starting to grow - this is probably WHY his book *"Stink and Grow Rich" was transcribed to cassettes later on :P (*Written after "Think" due to people who avoided the deodorants to stop "hat growth")
@DanEvans-f8f
@DanEvans-f8f 9 ай бұрын
Called "balancing phase-shifts"
@Shermanbay
@Shermanbay 9 ай бұрын
An excellent, illustrated, detailed, demonstration of speaker polarity, an important factor one that I have been promoting for over 50 years!
@seijirou302
@seijirou302 9 ай бұрын
Whether or not there's an audible difference will depend on the driver and/or enclosure. The signal is identical, but if the driver performs differently when pushing out vs pushing in, for dynamic audio (basically anything except a tone generator) it will color the sound differently. Like the snare hit example, the largest amplitude is in the 1st movement. If the cone is not equally flexible in both directions, and more flexible in the direction of 1st motion, that period will be louder than when the signal changes direction electrically (i.e. moves under the line). So, if you have good ears, and you have good drivers and enclosures and yet you can hear a difference when reversing the wires that's actually an indication that your drivers or enclosures aren't good as they do not perform equally in both directions of cone movement. With good equipment, good ears will be just as oblivious to this kind of phase change as bad ears.
@donaldmasucci326
@donaldmasucci326 10 ай бұрын
Years ago when speakers didn't give polarity we used to put them face to face about a half inch apart and reverse the wires on one. Which ever way sounded better is the way you would leave it. We called it putting them in the same phase.
@timotejsuvak9979
@timotejsuvak9979 9 ай бұрын
Actually, engineer here, speaker does not have positive and negative terminals. As you said it is just a coil, which is an inductor wound to a circle. Some electronic components and machines does have polarity because it is important where does the current flow and in which direction. That is why you must put DC voltage in correct polarity on input. But as you connect coil to an AC power source you can imagine it not just changing the ammount of current/voltage but also its polarity (sine wave). That means it does not matter which way you plug it in. What were you talking about in video (the speaker muting while "reversed") is phase shift. You phase shifted the signal on one speaker so when the signal on number one is in top + section, the signal on second one is in top - section and then they indeed disturb each other.
@subdynoman
@subdynoman 8 ай бұрын
So what your saying is if I know which way to wire it before hand like if I mark one red and one black and call it forward for up and reverse for down then we will know hownto connected the speaker just in case they make a mistake like in the factory and forget that hey don't wire that speaker backwards because the customer won't know the difference but don't tell them it's a dc speaker. Sounds good 👍 where did you go to school?
@VitaliyKulikovUA
@VitaliyKulikovUA 6 ай бұрын
i will add more. waveform don't has any connection to speakers.
@jenniferwhitewolf3784
@jenniferwhitewolf3784 3 ай бұрын
Its not phase, as phase is time related. It is polarity, because regardless of frequency which is derivative of time, the output of the driver is inverted.
@starmc26
@starmc26 2 ай бұрын
​@@jenniferwhitewolf3784It's absolutely Phase.
@TheOptimod
@TheOptimod 2 ай бұрын
Rubbish. Then why if the pos and neg are reversed does the woofer suck inwards instead of moving outwards? That's right, due to polarity. Try on an old speaker with a 9v battery and you'll see.
@firecloud77
@firecloud77 10 ай бұрын
There is one case in which connecting stereo speakers in reverse polarity is a GOOD thing. The best imaging and sound stage is acquired by placing a twin set of tweeters and midrange drivers on the outside of your main speakers and wiring them to the opposite channel in reverse polarity to cancel crosstalk. That's how the Polk Audio SDA's work.
@luvr381
@luvr381 9 ай бұрын
I found your comment after I posted mine.
@williamsharp5973
@williamsharp5973 Ай бұрын
I've always referred to speakers being 'in phase' or 'out of phase'. In 'stereo' this just means the cones are or are not moving in the same direction at the same time given the same inut signal. The most telling example is, for example, signal content is the same (like a monaural source) to both channels or stereo with a vocal that when heard should locate to the center of the soundstage. If in phase, the vocal (or any other content) intended for the center should sound dead center, leaving you to swear there is a center channel speaker when there is not. If the speakers are out of phase, the soundstage will be muddled, since the signals are still coming from both channels, but not synchronized - the most easily heard effect is that same-signal content will not be placed as it should in the center, though for stereo content in fact nothing is really as it should be. Sound from each speaker by itself will sound fine, and in fact the combined sound may seem ok - but it won't be, though some music will be obvious and other music not be as revealing. A simple test will make the problem obvious. I always used a track where I knew a single artist vocal was supposed to be in the center. Choose either speaker (but not both) and swap the wire ends on the terminals at either the speaker or amplifier end (but not both). Then step back and listen. Do this several times if you need to until you can easily tell the difference - and when you can decide, leave the connection that sounds best. Be sure you use a good listening level when you do the test, and you may find it necessary to use content that will be more revealing. This was the test I used years ago, before speaker wire and amplifier and speaker terminals started being labelled / color coded to make it more likely the end user will set things up correctly. It is still possible today to set up the speakers out of phase, but the test is quick and worth taking the time. Make no mistake, this is a difference that you can hear.
@omarjassar4650
@omarjassar4650 Ай бұрын
Wiring the speakers opposite will give you a wider perception of the sound , THX did a kinda similar thing in the rear channels but instead of reversing one signal they have both sides constantly phase-shifting
@awittypilot8961
@awittypilot8961 8 ай бұрын
I knew this but this was the absolute best depiction of the principal I have ever seen. Well done!
@ewwitsantonio
@ewwitsantonio 10 ай бұрын
I've said it before but I'll say it again: you are an incredible teacher!
@AudioUniversity
@AudioUniversity 10 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@davidmacphee3549
@davidmacphee3549 10 ай бұрын
I'm Subbed now. You bring back old memories.@@AudioUniversity
@defenestrated23
@defenestrated23 10 ай бұрын
This is true that there should be no audible difference when your DAC, amp, and speaker are all operating linearly. However, in practice there are nonlinearities and biases in all these systems. I would imagine it would be easier to A/B test polarity inversion on cheaper systems or at very high sound pressure levels.
@jebeda
@jebeda 8 ай бұрын
For a single frequency of sound, when two speakers are separated in space, there are positions in the room where the sound waves constructively interfere (such as the point exactly between them) and places where they destructively interfere (such as a point between them that is a bit closer to one speaker than the other (the "bit" being exactly one quarter of a wavelength). If you plot out these points of constructive and destructive interference, you get lines of constructive and destructive interference that are separated by distances in the range of 1/4 of the wavelength. Even when the speakers are wired "correctly", you STILL get spots that have destructive interference, but where the spots are depends on the frequency/wavelength of the sound. Flipping the polarity of one of the speakers should just move the various quiet and loud spots around the room. If one speaker is flipped, the position half-way between the speakers is one of those destructive interference spots. Importantly, this spot has destructive interference for EVERY frequency of sound. Middle C is around 256 Hz, so about 78 cm of wavelength, with higher frequencies having shorter wavelengths. For the very low frequency sounds (60Hz has a wavelength of around 5.3 metres (18.3 feet), the destructive interference zone would be a large part of the room. Thus you probably would be unable to notice a reversed polarity speaker for any of the high frequencies, but could for the lowest frequencies. Thus, if you have mismatched polarity on your pair of speakers in two corners of the room - the centre line of the room will be quiet for all frequencies, and for the lowest frequencies, the quiet area will extend well beyond this centre line. For higher frequencies, even a little distance from the room's centre line, all other places in the room will sound pretty much the same as if the speakers were "properly" hooked up.
@MISTERLeSkid
@MISTERLeSkid 26 күн бұрын
Brevity is your friend. Anyone who would click here already know how speakers work. It doesn't take loooooong, sloooooow (and repeated) explanations of the same simple concept to finally just explain destructive interference in waves with simple, intuitive examples, like waves crests in a pond cancelling each other out. There, I just did it in one sentence.
@joshuamiller9186
@joshuamiller9186 5 ай бұрын
Wave addition is such a cool concept. I wish there were more practical applications like this taught in public schools
@RocknJazzer
@RocknJazzer 5 ай бұрын
It is taught in certain math and physics classes, but there is little practical application for most people, except installing speakers, or getting a job that uses math or physics
@myhchiu
@myhchiu 4 ай бұрын
Wave addition (or cancellation if one signal is reversed) has a very practical application in noise canceling headphones and earbuds. A microphone picks up the ambient noise, which is then reversed and added to the music being played by the speakers in the headphones, the reversed noise cancels out the ambient noise and you hear just the music.
@muspylenz
@muspylenz 2 ай бұрын
PROLONGED SEMESTER
@Bassotronics
@Bassotronics 5 ай бұрын
A little car audio story.. I was testing two subwoofers. I place one in the trunk and one on the back seat. They were sounding loud higher than 50hz but weak below 50Hz. ( Had them wired inverted) Then when inverted the polarity (back to normal), they did the opposite, they sounded weak higher than 50Hz but louder under 50Hz. With that said, speaker placement is crucial thus all frequencies travel at different wavelengths as well as the environment they are placed in. I was kind of in "awe" when I heard the high frequencies sound louder when there were out of phase at the position they were in. But mind you the bass frequencies were creating nodes and other issues when inverted. So keeping them in phase is always the best idea UNLESS you are doing some weird experiment like I did.
@TheRumpletiltskin
@TheRumpletiltskin 9 ай бұрын
i "hear" the difference in the snare, but honestly i think it's more about feeling it. the pressure difference in a speaker pushing the note vs pulling the note into existence. sound waves are just a transfer of energy from one object to your eardrum. under normal conditions, the eardrum is pushed first, then pulled by the sound made by the speaker, where as with inverted phase the eardrum is being pulled first, then pushed by the soundwave produced by the speaker, and i think that subtle difference is what people are noticing.
@hughobyrne2588
@hughobyrne2588 9 ай бұрын
Kind of like the same effect as a fan - there's strong directed flow out of the front, but no strong directed flow into the back?
@wally7856
@wally7856 9 ай бұрын
A snare is usually tuned to ~ 170 hz so that initial "pull" is only 0.0029 seconds (2.9 milliseconds) long before there is a "push" and the cycle repeats.
@Munakas-wq3gp
@Munakas-wq3gp 8 ай бұрын
I'm fairly sure you hear placebo. It makes no difference to a speaker whether it starts the waveform this or that way.
@Munakas-wq3gp
@Munakas-wq3gp 8 ай бұрын
@@hughobyrne2588 No, a fan does not produce a waveform (unless you have a rotary subwoofer). A speaker does not blow air like a fan. The only time you feel air move is when you have a vented sub where air starts to move relatively fast or a horn speaker playing bass at loud volume. But since sound is a waveform, there is no front or back per se, it varies like AC varies in electric grid. Doesn't matter which way you put the plug in.
@TheRumpletiltskin
@TheRumpletiltskin 8 ай бұрын
@@Munakas-wq3gp that is true, a speaker doesn't care, but your inner ear does.
@franciszeksywula
@franciszeksywula Ай бұрын
a properly connected speaker plays in phase, while the other way around it plays out of phase and in both cases they play with the same power given by the speaker manufacturer - when connecting them into a 3-way speaker, the woofer or bass speaker is connected in phase, the high-tone speaker is always connected in phase and the midrange speaker must be connected out of phase via a crossover, then the speaker column plays correctly, presenting the sound stage to the listeners
@michaelhansen6141
@michaelhansen6141 6 ай бұрын
To some people this video may be useless if I read the comments but let me tell you, not so long ago I've bought a very expensive home entertainment system with pretty decent sound. I had a get together with some buddies and wanted to show off my new set so I disconnected the complete system to play it outside and had a little help from one of my oh so helpful buddies. Eventually everything was connected and when it was time to play, I could only hear the mids and treble but the base was virtually non existing. With two subwoofers connected I looked like a total fool. When doing fault finding we quickly realised that the guy who connected the subs did the wrong way around, not following the colour code. So yes, very important to take note of and this is a very good video for the younger generation starting their sound journey. 💯👌
@kramoogle
@kramoogle 9 ай бұрын
WAOW... the quality of your content is impressive 😄 So sharp and clear, I love it !
@Jawst
@Jawst 9 ай бұрын
2024 and most of us are still listening to mono audio😂
@Hausedj2
@Hausedj2 8 ай бұрын
Why though
@marco.castiglia
@marco.castiglia Ай бұрын
the music gets played in reverse
@hightechhamzahammad6685
@hightechhamzahammad6685 4 ай бұрын
6:14 Fun fact: This is actually how noise cancelation works on headphones, microphones take the sound, and play an inverted version of it in the same ms (some may have a delay if it is a lower end headset)
@mouduge
@mouduge Ай бұрын
If you're standing perfectly in the middle between two speakers, then even perfectly opposite waves will not cancel each other out perfectly because they won't reach your ears at the same time. In fact, they may even add up constructively! For example, take an A note at 880Hz: since sound travels at 343m/s, the wavelength is 343/880 = 0.39m. And your ears are about 0.20m apart, which is almost exactly half a wavelength. So opposite waves will actually add up constructively around your ears! Of course, if you just move 0.2m towards one speaker, the waves will now cancel out. So the polarity really doesn't matter much when we're talking about these "normal" frequencies. However, if you consider a very low pitch sound, say at 20Hz, and do the same math, then you will find that its wavelength is over 17 meters. So no matter where you are in the room, the waves will cancel out. This explains why the problem is mostly noticeable for low pitch sounds. It also depends on your position relative to the speakers. If you walk far away from both speakers, remaining at an equal distance from both, then the sound waves will take approximately the same time to reach your left and right ear from both speakers, and the problem may become noticeable, even at higher frequencies.
@thehallsofvalhalla2788
@thehallsofvalhalla2788 9 ай бұрын
They start speaking Spanish
@CatzHTU
@CatzHTU 8 ай бұрын
ñ
@Hello_-_-_-_
@Hello_-_-_-_ 8 ай бұрын
Yes
@Nikotinbetyar
@Nikotinbetyar 7 ай бұрын
Guandooooooooo
@imstupid880
@imstupid880 9 ай бұрын
Man spent 7 minutes explaining ANC
@holtsvillehal8616
@holtsvillehal8616 Ай бұрын
Excellent, Excellent video...your visual displays are perfect. Now Tweeters what ones are best to replace in DJ Speakers using 200 AMP
@ColinWatters
@ColinWatters Ай бұрын
It's worth noting that some sounders (I hesitate to call them speakers) are designed to be driven in one direction only. They are intended to be driven by a digital output that varies from 0V to some positive value like 9V by a single transistor. They should only be connected one way around.
@ronwade5646
@ronwade5646 24 күн бұрын
Only when receiving stereo signals in a monoral radio. At KNAU Radio station in Flagstaff in the mid 1980s we had an out of phase and huge ground loop problem at the station. At 100,000 watts here in Flagstaff not only did we have multi phase distortion but any monoral radio in an older car that tuned in experienced lots of phase out signal loss. The ground loop issue never did get fixed. The station eventually moved into new quarters on campus at NAU that was wired this time by real broadcast engineers that knew what they were doing. That Optimod was horrible too.
@clausbader9537
@clausbader9537 Ай бұрын
Reverse emplifying is used by headphones to silence environmental noise. It reverses the phase of environmental noise by 180⁰ and cancel it out. It's as well used by expensive cars to cancel out noises from outside and car vibrations.
@elfboi523
@elfboi523 9 ай бұрын
When you wire one bass driver normally and the other one inversed, you can use isobaric push-pull coupling to make them behave like one with double the stiffness. You either mount them cone-to-cone inside a cube-shaped box with a bass reflex tube for an opening, or you can use a big short tube as your bass box and put the speakers on both end facing outwards.
@vsvnrg3263
@vsvnrg3263 2 ай бұрын
while we're talking about speaker wiring, on the back of a brian eno album, he describes how he takes a wire connected to the positive (or it can be the negative ) of each speaker and connects it to a third speaker. it results in getting a signal that is the difference between the 2 channels. this might be how cheap surround sound amplifiers work. anyway, ive tried it. it works. for those of you who dont know, brian eno was an original member of roxy music.
@envision546
@envision546 4 ай бұрын
Speakers are mechanically constructed to excurse the voice coil outside (with DC signal) when connected with the matching polarity. Construction wise the null position of the coil is not symmetric with respect to pole pieces to take advantage of the fact that the flux density is higher at the edges of pole pieces.
@lorenzovillanueva3245
@lorenzovillanueva3245 4 күн бұрын
It will go unnoticed unless you are using a speaker for low frequencies, especially if it's in an enclosure. The first note should push the outward, also known as the positive speaker phase. If It speaker pushes inwards, the base note will cancel out.
@vulpesinculta3478
@vulpesinculta3478 5 ай бұрын
I heard a very slight difference in the snares, but that could just be bc I was expecting to hear a slight difference. This video is very informative, thank you
@LoneWolfZ
@LoneWolfZ 2 ай бұрын
The best argument I have heard for monaural polarity is regarding long excursions for bass drums. the theory is that a bass kick needs to go outwards because that is where the speaker cove is strongest and most efficiently moves air for that single pulse. it does make sense. Well, it makes more sense than anything else I have heard.
@jpwhre
@jpwhre 9 ай бұрын
If you connect a 3rd speaker to stereo, by connecting the positive from both sides to the 3rd speaker, tou create a 3rd channel (or just hook up one speaker using the positive of right to positive of speaker and positive of left to negative of speaker) you get a new channel. Flip that and see what it does (you need actual audio like music or other media and not just single tones). If you hook up a DC motor to speaker outputs, you can hear the media play through it.
@RaniRani-zt2tr
@RaniRani-zt2tr Ай бұрын
When you flip the positive and negative, the poles (north and south) of the coil which is an electromagnet will flip Basically my guess is that after a current is applied the magnet will attract or repel the permanent magnet (according to the poles) moving inwards or outwards
@joec2078
@joec2078 7 ай бұрын
This is good to know. Wind noise is always an issue when it comes to motorcycle helmets and trying to listen to the integrated Bluetooth at highway speeds can be an issue. So I'm going to cut out the speakers and splice in a set of earbuds. The earbuds looks similar to ear plugs so I'm hoping they will act as ear plugs for external noises (wind and engine) but since they are earbuds, they'll deliver sound directly in my ears. My concern was splicing the wires backwards, especially if they are not colored differently beneath the outer insulation. So it is good to know that it shouldn't make a difference since each earbud is delivering sound directly to each ear so there won't be any sort of destructive interference. My only concern would be if each ear is getting a signal that is 180 deg out of phase from the other, would it be detectable then?
@jonashellsborn7648
@jonashellsborn7648 9 ай бұрын
Regarding the question @05:15: I have read that audiophiles claim that the bass keg bonks outward so the speakers should do the bonk outwards as well (though it is an elastic oscillating movement). And of course they say they hear the difference. Even claim that the speaker design itself promotes push-out before push-in. And it's imperative to have special expensive "oxygen free copper" wires, though allegedly the copper metal industry as a whole has gone to oxygen free processing just for better metal quality.
@4everascending511
@4everascending511 5 ай бұрын
Thank you. I didn't know that. I have an old 5.1 surround sound and I reversed the polarity of one speaker and in improved the sound from left to right. The cable doesn't have any markings whatsoever for me to check what is right or left.. no colors or anything. I hadn't even considered the possibility of having wired some speakers the opposite way.
@steffenketels180
@steffenketels180 Ай бұрын
This is something i love about beeing an electrician and make 3-Phase electronics and meassuring sine waves so intersting. At the End of it all, it makes Motors turn.
@dudleyrathborne9849
@dudleyrathborne9849 6 ай бұрын
Thank you for a simple and understandable demenstration . I've always been very careful when hooking up my speakers correctly . Just never knew how important the audio results would be ...........DGR
@mynameisdeleted
@mynameisdeleted Ай бұрын
snare has slightly more base on positive when boosted all the way up, but this would be more pronounced on a gunshot or thunder-track where the initial positive pressure is of far higher magnitude that following negative pressure shocks or echos. for a shock wave to sound different by polarity it has to be super loud, and super asymmetric. I.E. initial positive shock far exceeds negative and positive mixed echo and resonance.
@echodelta9
@echodelta9 2 ай бұрын
I used to do a lot of live binaural recording and didn't criticize absolute phase in sound. It finally came to me when I recorded our local orchestra and chorus doing the 1812 overture with a USNG 105mm gun battery on the side. The speakers are supposed push into the room, duh! I wired a dual dpdt switch into the headphones too, it makes a big difference. Then I listened to voice, strings, and familiar radio host voices and noticed a difference between the two phases. Strings are decidedly asymmetrical waveforms so is the speaking voice. I can usually see the polarity on recordings off the web of radio announcers by looking at the wave file on Audacity. Absolute phase matters. Try one speaker with a very familiar voice, then switch. In a single take recording even multitrack the end product phase should be correct. Then it is up to us to set the correct phase on a wired up system. A self contained system should be compliant in it's box.
@No_Malarky
@No_Malarky Ай бұрын
Yrs ago I had big stereo with 2 sets of speakers. I still have the pair of 4 ft tall Linear tower speaker cab`s w/12" drivers, horn, & tweeters internally wired 4ohm to double the output, so I had to wire them in series vs a pair of Sound Dynamics cab`s w/15" etc that were reg 8-ohm. From the pre-amp my SD`s were pos to pos while the Linear cab`s had to be wired together pos to neg to double the ohms to match the pre amp / power amp
@miketayse
@miketayse Ай бұрын
Nice clear explanation, thanks!
@Djr656
@Djr656 28 күн бұрын
I've been in audio experience since when I was a kid.. As far as my own study.. Reverse polarity of 2 speakers powered by mono amp are better than what was standard wiring.. Even if stereo the out of phase are better.. But this application was not damaged the speakers.. I almost applied this wiring in my audio systems until now. Could make a deeper difference than usual..
@ThatOneGamedev.-pi8or
@ThatOneGamedev.-pi8or 4 ай бұрын
Simple explanation: its an electromagnet aka the coil will change it's magnetic field to fight against/with the magnets current. When you wire it backwards it will still create a simmilar frequency due to it still moving up and down at the same rate. You will still want to wire it correctly just in case you have several speakers fighting each other. Hope this helped!
@ИванкаМарья
@ИванкаМарья Ай бұрын
This can be simplified with the two trig functions f(x)=sin(x) g(x)=sin(x+180°) Both signals will cancel each other out due to the opposing phasor shift if played simultaneously.
@MechanicalTriage
@MechanicalTriage 2 ай бұрын
Heard the difference right away. Running subs out of phase makes the timing off just enough to emphasize the bass notes and makes audio much cleaner.
@Rene_Christensen
@Rene_Christensen 9 ай бұрын
Just to clear some things up here. If the driver is wired to move outwards at DC, this does not mean that it moves outwards for a positive voltage across the entire frequency range. Below its fundamental resonance frequency, it does move outwards for a positive voltage (assuming one polarity of the two choices). However, then it moves INWARDS for a positive voltage at higher frequencies well above it fundamental frequency. This is typically also what you want, because the inwards movement will result in a positive pressure when the driver is loaded with a free-field-ish condition, which a room pretty much is at higher frequencies (excluding at lot of details here). This goes against most acoustical engineer's intution, but the theory as well as simulations will reveal this. So the battery test is merely a proxy for what is actually going in the frequency range of interest; the pass-band of the driver.
@phild8095
@phild8095 9 ай бұрын
yes, they signals would cancel if you were in the correct location hearing the 300 hertz, but that wavelength at 300 hertz is about 1.1 meter, so with mono tonal stereo kyou could move about a room and in theory find quiet canceling nodes and loud reinforcing nodes. Or in the case of doing the wiring right the nodes would be reversed, but still exist.
@johnzangari3432
@johnzangari3432 Ай бұрын
I have an old H.H. Scott amplifier from the 50s. I havent used it in a long time, but I remember It has a switch that says something to the effect of: Reverse Speaker Lead Polarity. Fliping the switch definitely changes the music. My recolection is the sound became hollow.
@mho...
@mho... Ай бұрын
since its just the polarity/direction of the coil, it mean up will be down & vice versa ... wich can either just sound "off" or breaks the speaker! but overall its not THAT much of a difference, because the soundwave will still be "up/down" wich for our ear equals "down/up"
@jakem6572
@jakem6572 8 ай бұрын
I think the hearing of the snare differently does happen but only when the speakers are a distance away from your ears. With your headphones on, they are right next to each other thus any air pressure difference is directly picked up. With speakers a distance away, however, the following effect gets more pronounced - how blowing (outward movements) go forward strongly like a laser and sucking (inward movements) suck from all around. This is why your speaker playing a sine wave can actually blow a net force of air forward and blow out a candle -- and means that the initial spike of the snare will be stronger if it starts in the positive and you are a distance from your speakers - as the air pressure will travel further if the cone moves outwards
@leslieh7110
@leslieh7110 5 ай бұрын
As a cinema technician, this is something we have to address carefully. Surrounds on the walls can cancel each other out (note, the word is can, not will, since there is rarely identical audio being output), and also have a habit of decreasing the preceived output of the already lower (than the stage speakers) 82dB (at reference level, sound calibration for stage speakers is 85dB). Also, although we always test and correct reverse polarity, there are those who argue that as long as every speaker is either out of phase or all speakers are in phase, it's fine. I don't agree, but there are some.
@SarahC2
@SarahC2 2 ай бұрын
I have a thought - if the speakers are a meter apart, the combined wave made by both speakers intersecting the point where one ear is equidistant with be in phase and loud, while a small movement of the head will make them out of phase and quieter in small patches across the entire volume the air can move around in. If one speaker is out of phase, then those in phase and out of phase areas will just be inverted, and the pattern of a centimeter resolution or two (due to the frequency/speed of sound) will be the same... (just inverter).... meaning there should be no appreciable difference in sound effect. Hmmmmmm....
@tonydoggett7627
@tonydoggett7627 7 ай бұрын
When I worked on cars as a Auto Electrician in late 80’s. So many cars had owner installed stereo’s with no regard to polarity! I could hear the dullness and fixed many.
The Downside Of Multiple Speakers In A Sound System
7:26
Audio University
Рет қаралды 157 М.
THIS changes DIY Audio...
19:46
Zac Builds
Рет қаралды 315 М.
Арыстанның айқасы, Тәуіржанның шайқасы!
25:51
QosLike / ҚосЛайк / Косылайық
Рет қаралды 700 М.
Cheerleader Transformation That Left Everyone Speechless! #shorts
00:27
Fabiosa Best Lifehacks
Рет қаралды 16 МЛН
Quilt Challenge, No Skills, Just Luck#Funnyfamily #Partygames #Funny
00:32
Family Games Media
Рет қаралды 55 МЛН
REAL or FAKE? #beatbox #tiktok
01:03
BeatboxJCOP
Рет қаралды 18 МЛН
I built a 1,000,000,000 fps video camera to watch light move
29:08
AlphaPhoenix
Рет қаралды 614 М.
This should be illegal… Battery Repair Blocking
19:21
Linus Tech Tips
Рет қаралды 4,6 МЛН
USB-C extensions are not allowed for a reason
8:50
Quiescent Current
Рет қаралды 60 М.
Things you didn't realize about bass... until now.
19:49
ALPHA SOUND
Рет қаралды 1,5 МЛН
The Real Reason Why Todays Music Is Starting To Sound The Same
21:59
Freaking Out With Billy Hume
Рет қаралды 520 М.
Four Steps to Flawless Wire Joints (How to Solder)
11:45
Will Donaldson
Рет қаралды 679 М.
Арыстанның айқасы, Тәуіржанның шайқасы!
25:51
QosLike / ҚосЛайк / Косылайық
Рет қаралды 700 М.