What Hybrids Should You Carry?

[@davidludwig5476]

This is one of the most well produced and informative KZbin videos I have seen on the subject of Hybrids (or any golf topic for that matter). It was a pleasure to watch. Very professional. Thanks

[@GolfingFocus]

Many thanks David. Those are very kind words and much appreciated. Delighted you enjoyed the video and found it helpful 👍

[@jbiz447]

Excellent video. I like to look at a lot of facts to when making a decision and you provided that. Thanks!

[@GolfingFocus]

Many thanks for the feedback. Is much appreciated 👍

[@lylejohnson5549]

After struggling to hit my 5 irons for years, but having good success with my 3 and 4 hybrids, i finally purchased a 5 hybrid too. This video helped explain why this was the right move for me with my sub-90 mph swing speed.

[@GolfingFocus]

Many thanks for the feedback Lyle and delighted the 5-hybrid change has paid dividends 👍

[@billhiles1091]

I carry a 3 & 5 hybrid…….easier to hit than long irons or fairway woods for me…….haven’t moved to a 6 or 7 hybrid YET, but I have a couple of friends that use them.

[@rnc9909]

A gem of a video for those who understand the great value it adds. This kind of vid could be used as a benchmark on how to structure and present info videos engaging every category of viewers with one video and info charts. Great presentation

[@GolfingFocus]

Those are very kind words and much appreciated. Delighted you enjoyed the video 👍

[@randalj01]

Probably the single best, and informative, vid on hybrids. Thank you very much!

[@GolfingFocus]

Very many thanks. Delighted you found the video helpful 👍

[@bigfatolly1482]

I have a Cleveland 3 hybrid that in relation to my Cobra iron lofts is really a 4,a 5 hybrid thats really a 6. Hence i dont carry a 5 iron and rarely use my 6. Ive now bought a 8 hybrid that i use if im not hitting my irons very well,can also chip and run with it. Hybrids are great clubs as ive never been a great iron player.

[@GolfingFocus]

Many thanks for sharing details of your set and really like the hybrid chipping usage Think that’s a hugely underused shot. 👍

[@block19row13]

This is a great video, and for me its about removing stigma. Its the same as people rocking up every week and playing the tips or too long a tee for your game, they feel like they have to to keep up with the others. This video has made me book a fitting, and im going to experiment a 5 and a 3. Every now and then i can flush a 5 iron, which is great, but more often than not, i get the low cutty one, whereas my current 4 hybrid is far more consistant.

[@GolfingFocus]

Delighted you enjoyed the video and many thanks for the kind comments. Hope all goes well with the fitting and would be great to here what you end up with if you can come back and share with us?! 👍

[@francispleta7246]

The content in this video was obviously well-researched to which I want to commend. Keep up the great work!

[@GolfingFocus]

Many thanks for the feedback. It is very much appreciated 👍

[@jeffjob6995]

This was a good video. Both Ping and Callaway make hybrids up through 7 and now there are a few offerings of full hybrid sets. I play whatever gives me the most consistency and therefore, the most fun on the course.

[@GolfingFocus]

Lots of hybrids isn’t for everyone but do think your approach is a really good one and way under utilised by lots of amateurs 👍

[@jeffjob6995]

@@GolfingFocus I took a slightly different approach to the hybrid option. I game the Cleveland Halo XL irons which have the sole of a hybrid. Cobra, Wilson, and Taylormade all have a similar style of offering. It's not that I hit them longer/straighter... I find however that my mishits are not that punitive. Loved your video... keep doing them!

[@GolfingFocus]

@@jeffjob6995Many thanks for the feedback. Is very much appreciated! 👍

[@tannermccart7000]

Thank you so much for this video! You answered every question I had.

[@GolfingFocus]

Many thanks Tanner. Delighted you found the video helpful 👍

[@alangoudie2299]

Thank you for a very helpful video. I really like my 5, 6 & 8 hybrids.

[@GolfingFocus]

Great to hear!

[@texomajohn2916]

I am all in on hybrids , seven 30 degrees, six 27 degrees, five 24 degrees, four 21 degrees, three 18 degrees. I am 77 and my club head speed is 80-85 . It works .

[@GolfingFocus]

Awesome stuff. Delighted to hear you’ve embraced them and are reaping the rewards 👍

[@motodiaries8204]

I have come to love my hybrids. I recently switched out my 6 iron (a Mizuno 221 blade) for a 6 hybrid. There was no avoiding the tremendous height and descent angle of the hybrid. Same distance, but much more likely to hold a green. I also love the adjustability which allows me to adjust gapping between clubs. I seem to change lofts on a fairly regular basis depending on how I am hitting my longer irons and the various hybrids.

[@GolfingFocus]

Awesome. Think you're absolutely spot on with this approach and especially in terms of how hybrids let you get the ball up in the air and hold greens better than lower flying irons. 👍

[@richie8240]

Excellent advice. I carry a 3, 5 and 6 hybrid and a 6 iron at same loft. I use the 6 iron for specific shots and the 6H for anything tricky. It also fills the gap in distance between the 5H and the 6 iron. Playing off 17 consider myself a higher handicap.

[@GolfingFocus]

Many thanks Richie and delighted you liked the video. Love your set up also. Covering loads of bases. Awesome 👍👍what do you think the key is for you now in terms of getting the handicap down?

[@mattmershon3542]

Many of the modern irons, especially those in the game improvement category, are virtually mini hybrids. I’m 67 years old and was always a good iron player. I currently carry only up to a 6 iron ( 7 iron distance is 155 ) . I currently carry a 7 wood along with a 4&5 hybrid. I’ve experimented with a 6 hybrid but I prefer my 6 iron ( Cobra Forged Tec X ) Most information video on hybrids and how to select which ones to carry that I’ve seen. Thanks

[@GolfingFocus]

Many thanks Matt and delighted you enjoyed the video. Love the experimentation you've been doing to find the right set up and sounds like your iron distances are still well up there. Would take a 7-iron 155 carry distance myself any day 👍

[@JR-hy2mq]

I am a 13.8 hcp. I had a stealth 2 hd 4H. I struggled with consistency with the 5i and 6i. I just got the Ping G430 5h and 6h also the Ping G425 3h. I tried them today and they were so easy to hit and the ball flight was so amazing. I can’t believe I didn’t get them sooner. This makes the game so much more fun. Why make it more difficult. I have no ego and will now always use the 3h, 4h, 5h, and 6h. I can’t say anything about older hybrids but these new ones are amazing expensive but amazing.

[@marybetheby5184]

I've experimented a lot with my bag trying to find the easiest clubs to hit in the 4,5,6 irons and have settled on a 7 wood,9 wood and 6 hybrid. It makes those distances easy and I get to start my irons with my favorite club,the 7 iron.😎👍

[@timdench2583]

I agree. I am a 13.4 handicapper and have 4, 5 and 6 hybrids. Easy clubs to hit. The lowest iron in my bag is now a 7 iron.

[@IIISWILIII]

This was very helpful. Thanks for making great content!

[@GolfingFocus]

Many thanks for the feedback. Delighted you found the video helpful! 👍

[@timdench2583]

Super informative video. Thanks very much. Some great points

[@GolfingFocus]

Many thanks. Delighted you found the video helpful 👍

[@RandoPandaSmiles]

As a somewhat beginner to the sport, looking to take the leap and getting a nicer set of clubs, this was the most helpful video I’ve found on the subject, by far. I will couple this knowledge with a proper fitting before spending any money. Thank you.

[@GolfingFocus]

Many thanks and delighted you found the video helpful. Would be great if you could let us know what clubs you end up with also once you've had your fitting. Good luck! 👍

[@Teadrinker710]

I’m 36 and play driver, 16.5 3w, 21 7w, 25 9w, 30 6hy, 34 7hy, 36/40 7/8i cavity backs, 44/48 9i/pw blades

[@GolfingFocus]

Really interesting set up and many thanks for sharing 👍 How do you find the higher numbered fairway woods compared to the hybrids?

[@Teadrinker710]

@ the game is a lot better now. I was pretty good from 125 and in the 7h gives me a 155 club that I have a ton of confidence in. From there the 6h, 9w, 7w allow me to actually play from 165-220 before the hybrids and woods anything after 150 was “well let’s bomb it down there and get in the vicinity” where now I have confidence that I have a shot at the dance floor

[@GolfingFocus]

@@Teadrinker710 Awesome stuff, that's great you've got options now from longer distances and delighted they are working well 👍👍

[@stuboy13]

I tried my brother's combo set (8-pw blades) and strangely have never struck the ball better in my life. Go figure. Nothing better than striping an 8 iron blade but I wouldn't go lower in loft than my 39° 8 iron. Struggling to hit hybrids but trying to incorporate more than my 21° and replace my unhittable 3w with a 17° Hywood to go alongside my Mini Driver. I do like a long iron off the tee due to my windy course but would like to be able to replace everything below 5 iron with a hybrid.

[@rdwelch2]

Kinda why I opted for the Cleveland Launcher Halo XLs , 4-D Wedge. Best of both worlds?? Took a bit to get used to them, but seems to be working out!

[@GolfingFocus]

That’s great and delighted you’ve found them to work for you. All for using as much help from club tech as possible 👍

[@allenjeannette4350]

I have multiple Callaway Hybrids - 2 of them the Epic Super Hybrid and 1 Apex 21. Very easy and super forgiving to work with. Thanks for the video, I think I am going to consider a 6 Hybrid.

[@GolfingFocus]

Delighted you found it helpful Allen and good luck with the 6 hybrid testing!

[@lkae4]

Never got along with hybrids; owned probably 4 of them. I have a 9 wood that's amazing and then a 5 iron that's trusty and good through rough.

[@marybetheby5184]

9 woods rock!!

[@BEAN9999]

​@marybetheby5184 you think 9 woods rock? You should try a 13 wood.

[@paulgouge1896]

Several issues for everyone to consider. 1. How far you hit a 7 iron depends on the loft. 2. The No. iron to start a set with also depends on the loft. 3. When you get a fitting, it's usually only with a 6 iron, so how do you analyze distance gaps. 5. My irons are 3-pw , 8 clubs 21-47 degrees loft range yet a lot of current irons are 4-pw, 7 clubs with some only 1 degree difference in loft range, so the distance gaps are actually greater in shorter / scoring irons in modern sets.

[@domokun3142]

Golfer here with over 100mph driver club head speed. I carry a 2 hybrid between my 4 iron and 4 wood. As you increase swing speed with good technique, you realize that you appreciate the better control of a long iron. HOWEVER, you must have the speed & consistency to take full advantage of your tools. This is all to say, get the right tools to support your swing speed & consistency.

[@GolfingFocus]

That's great point about swingspeed as relates to the long irons. 👍 The desired ball flight you are looking for with longer clubs is also something to bear in mind too. Your higher numbered fairway wood and long iron may go exactly the same distance but one will likely give you a higher ball flight which you may prefer for your course.

[@mackwrx]

Really liking hybrids recently. Very versatile clubs and tighter dispersion too than my driver and woods. I currently play 2-3-5-7 hybrids / 9iron to GW+S+Lob wedge setup. Benched my driver and woods for now.

[@GolfingFocus]

They are great clubs for sure and give so many options as you say. Out of interest too why have you benched the driver and woods?

[@mackwrx]

@@GolfingFocus Might be just the shaft lengths, swing style etc. Still experimenting but really liking the hybrids at the moment. They are keeping me in play and more consistent.

[@funmachine3]

Hit only irons for almost a year, couldn’t stop slicing my 3w and I didn’t like the look of hybrids at address. Finally came back around now I have a 3w, 5w, 3hy, 4hy and I love em. Felt like I was playing on hard mode till I caved in. Glad I did tho

[@GolfingFocus]

Great stuff and delighted the hybrids worked out for you 👍

[@jontay1958]

Very interesting and informative - thank you.

[@GolfingFocus]

Delighted you found the video helpful 👍

[@carlr2837]

I currently play woods down to a 5 wood, and irons up to 3 iron, which leaves me a gap between175 yards and 200 yards. I do have an older 21 degree hybrid, but it's not in the bag as I hit the 3 iron much better. I'll get it out and try it again this year, but maybe I should try a newer hybrid.

[@GolfingFocus]

Brave man using a 3-iron Carl but if it works for you however then there's nothing wrong with that at all. Will be interested to hear how your testing of your old 21 degree one goes though and also whether you notice any difference with the modern versions 👍

[@russell-d8q]

The Cleveland HB3 hybrids are very nice. 2010 I think but I hit my 3 iron 200 w/o overswinging.Also very forgiving.

[@carlr2837]

@@russell-d8q I added a 7 wood, which I love. Hybrids are heavier than my other clubs, and for me, result in shots that go left, and also hook. I am very happy with my club spacing now: 3,5,7W, 3,5-9i. The 3i is also my answer for when I need a low shot to keep under a tree branch, so it has a dual use.

[@lorimeyers3839]

Yeah, I have a Titleist 913H 3 hybrid that’s 19 degrees, adjusted to 18.25 degrees. I use all irons from 4-wedges although I am fully aware that gaming a 4 hybrid would probably be more beneficial for my game, lol. I find hitting my 4 iron off tight lies, especially when the ground is saturated, can at times be tough for me. Sometimes I manage to pull it off.

[@GolfingFocus]

Have you considered a game improvement or players distance 4-iron instead of a hybrid? We’ve noticed when reviewing the pro sets on the PGA, Champions and LPGA Tour more players are going for more forgiving longer irons before switching to players or blade shorter irons. Don’t know if you’ve tried this already but maybe worth trying alongside a hybrid?

[@danebarksdale1468]

I used to hate hybrids, they always went left and hooked. But new technology that lets you flatten the lie angle has changed my views. I have replaced my long irons with Ping G425 hybrids! Interestingly I carry both a 5 hybrid and a 5 iron as there is a significant distance gap (30 yds) between 5 hybrid and 6 Iron, the 5 Iron covers the gap, but i had to give up my LW, my SW is 56 so going to 3 wedges vice 4 wedges is the cost of the change.

[@GolfingFocus]

Many thanks for sharing Dale. The fact that you're carrying both a 5 hybrid and 5-iron is awesome as not checking distance gaps is a big big thing when it comes to the 'last' hybrid and 'first' iron! Know its cost you a wedge but a 30 yard distance is a huge gap to cover out on the course. 👍

[@zazhou]

I am somewhat perplexed by your need to omit one of your wedges, especially if you have 15 yard gapping between your 5 hybrid, 5 iron and 6 iron?

[@danebarksdale1468]

@@zazhou I changed my bag up again because I really need that 4th wedge, here is my current setup...1W, 5W, 4H, 5H, 6H, 6I, 7I, 8I, 9I, PW, GW, SW, LW.....I gave up my 3W, my 5W and 3H are very close distance wise...5W is 200 and my 4H is 185....my 3W average is 210 so I like have more versatility at the low end of the bag....I'm 60 so I am not playing any back tees anymore.

[@MarvinofMars]

I am huge fan of 4 and 5 hybrids. It would be go to 185-170 yard second shot on a fairly after a drive. My longest iron is a 6 iron. My driver club speed is 95-100mph so this ties in with what is said here. I play in park cut grass golf with big mature trees making fairways very tight is just off the fairway, so a bump and run to 120-30 yards with maximum ball height of 5ft is common.

[@GolfingFocus]

Thinks those are very solid club choices Oliver given your swingspeed. Out of interest do you know the gap between your 5 hybrid and 6-iron?

[@bonksmusic1]

This was very reassuring to know I think I have the right setup . 10.5 driver, 16 degree 3 wood, 20 degree 4 hybrid, 6-P irons, 50 degree , 56 degree.

[@GolfingFocus]

Great stuff. Delighted you've found a set up that works well for you. You're missing a few clubs out there though aren't you? Do you have more hybrids in there beyond the 4?

[@inflatablemooseadventures]

there must be quite the gap between your 6 iron and your 4 hybrid

[@bonksmusic1]

@@inflatablemooseadventures 6 iron (cobra radspeed one-length) with a game-improvement modern loft of about 24 degrees , 4 iron (mizuno fli hi) designed not to be a distance hybrid but simply a 4 iron replacement (similar spin characteristics). The gap isn’t consistent but I would estimate the average about a 20 yard gap. It’s reaching the top end of my bag so the next gap to 3 wood is about the same, and then between 3 wood and driver is about the same. It’s just how I’m delivering the club. The gaps between my irons are about 15 yards each.

[@clintwilliams2705]

Excellent video! I do not know my driver speed but my 7 iron is 84-86mph. Current irons start at 5 iron, 22 degrees of loft. Looking to see what loft hybrids I should get to add to the 5-UW irons.

[@GolfingFocus]

Many thanks. Delighted you enjoyed the video 👍 And best of luck with the hybrid testing further up the bag!

[@markspence5288]

I dropped my 5 iron for a hybrid I’ll be honest it’s changed my game. My handicap is 4.6

[@GolfingFocus]

Interesting Mark. Just been through my full bag fitting and have kept a 4-iron in their. Not sure it will last long on reflection and will be testing out the hybrid replacements shortly! 👍

[@michaelwainscott576]

Outstanding overview.

[@GolfingFocus]

Many thanks. Delighted you found the video useful 👍

[@justanaussie2822]

I carry 5 hybrids. I am a 6 hc. I have dropped 4 shots since I changed. I can approach from 200 metres (not yards) with a Cleveland 2 halo. It’s staggering. I do have a 150+ (95 mph) swing. I have 2 3 4 5 6 hybrid. I was teased but now they are looking.

[@GolfingFocus]

Awesome stuff Justin. Think you're showing the way to be honest and a lot of regular amateurs should be joining you in this hybrid approach 👍

[@triptin24]

I would only use one hybrid. (3hybrid) then a specialist 4 iron that I could use to hit low shots and it would need to be a little bit longer to fill the gap better. The drop off is always going to be bigger at the top end of the bag.

[@GolfingFocus]

That's a very similar set up to many PGA Tour pros at the moment. Many have a 4-iron and put a graphite hybrid shaft in it and add wither a high numbered fairway wood or utility iron to the mix. Still think for the average golfer though having a hybrid or three is a good strategy and at least a test out.

[@jongray9342]

Good content.. carry on

[@GolfingFocus]

Many thanks for the feedback. Delighted you’re enjoying the videos 👍

[@jayholiday256]

I usually carry 4-7 hybrids.

[@GolfingFocus]

That’s great. How long have you put a load of hybrids in the bag?

[@jayholiday256]

@@GolfingFocus it started with an 4 hybrid when I started golfing 8 years ago, and add extras until I got the 7 three years ago

[@GolfingFocus]

@@jayholiday256 Superb and hope they continue to work well you for this season 👍

[@PNWLiving1725]

I like my 4 irons, but new set is 5, with 4h, 3h

[@GolfingFocus]

Think that's a great choice. Number of PGA Tour pros now starting with 5-iron and going for either hybrids or utility irons below that 👍 Out of interest did you go for wide or narrow body hybrids?

[@paulgolfer]

PAUL HERE , YOU HAVE JUST MENSIONED A SIMULATER , ARE THEY FIXED IN THE SENCE OF OK STRAIGHT BUT FOR DISTANCE, WELL I PURCHASED THE MAVRIK LAST YEAR SUB ZERO AND best I managed was 220 yards however ground was hard last summer which may add a few yards but 78 yards or 73 yards and my best before that was 240 yds that is not realistic but this was 293 298 are more than that , I played so much I thought it cracked so had to trade it in to buy another which best in there was 221 on course and it's only 4 rounds old 242 .

[@2222skinny]

I play with a pro that played in us open and pga he is older now and longest iron is 7 hits his hybrids closer than most hit there wedges

[@GolfingFocus]

Interesting and many thanks for sharing. 👍See Freddie Couples now doing the same at the age of 65 despite still hitting his drives over 270!

[@Wightknite88]

What a cleatky well researched, very informative and interesting video!! For years i played only with irons...7 iron was my longest club of the tee 😂 i could never hit driver, woods and the inconsistency while incurring penalties along with many lost balls was infuriating....my ball striking with irons has gotten pretty decent with repetition though to the point where i can hit the ball 180+ with my 7 iron, i started experimenting with hybrids but for some reason the hybrid i bought (PXG GEN6 5Hybrid 25°) just balloons in the air and i cant get anything more than 180 /190 yards out of it despite the fact it has 6 degrees less loft than my 7 iron 🤷 surely i should reach 200 yards at least? My clubs are all stiff shafts btw ...please help! With what direction to go next? Hybrids just seem to launch too high for me?

[@GolfingFocus]

Think 180/190 distance with it pretty good to be honest although know how frustrating it can be with a ball flight that doesn't work for you. Not sure what we can suggest beyond going to a good fitter to see if they can help although again know that's obvious and not particularly helpful advice. Your swing may lend itself to driving irons more than hybrids or high numbered fairway woods to get the ball flight down so those maybe worth a try?

[@Wightknite88]

@@GolfingFocus I actually have recently bought a utility iron and getting 200 yards out of it but the ball striking isn't as consistent, a few hooks and slices to contend with 😬😬

[@GolfingFocus]

@@Wightknite88 Awesome and am sure the ball striking will come with time. Are you much happier with the flight also? Scottie Scheffler uses tow of them so you are in very good company 👍

[@franskrause4658]

Great video. Thanks!

[@GolfingFocus]

Delighted you enjoyed it!

[@frednugent8068]

Cleveland Halo XL full faced are great

[@machoman5172]

I'm surprised that 2 hybrids are basically unheard of. I think they could benefit a lot of people with average and higher swing speeds. I wanted to simplify my game this year so I scrapped my driver and 3 wood and replaced them with a 2 hybrid delofted to 15.5°. My tee shots are way more reliable now and the average distance is undoubtedly higher. It's pretty reliant on rollout but it will easily total 270 and even flirt with 300 at times which is flat out better than I can hit a 3 wood. Also way easier than hitting a 3 wood off the deck. The simplifying also reflected in my long irons which were better than ever not having to keep up a bunch of different types of swing.

[@GolfingFocus]

That's great and sounds like you've found a superb set up for you there. Hope the success with it continues 👍

[@diegomorfinsoto]

My 5 iron has 21.5 degrees of Loft. I dont hit it very well and I love my 3 hybrid with 19 degrees of Loft.... Should I get a hybrid with same degrees as my 5 iron ??? for example a Taylormade Sim2 max 4 hybrid has 22.0 degrees of Loft

[@GolfingFocus]

Key thing is to experiment and see which loft of hybrid then gives you the best yardage gapping to your 3 hybrid. And starting with the 22 degree for the experimentation seems as good a place as any 👍

[@calvinmaestro3400]

Am 71 yrs old. Swing speed 80 mph. After extensive testing, this is my bag: driver, 3W, 5W, 7W, 3H (wide body), 5I -PW. 50 & 60[⁰ wedges, putter.

[@GolfingFocus]

Many thanks for sharing and looks like a great set up. Out of interest did you test any higher numbered hybrids or fairway woods before settling on starting your iron set at a 5?

[@calvinmaestro3400]

@@GolfingFocus Yes. Have a 2-hybrid and a 5-hybrid. Actually, I hit the 5-iron pretty good.

[@addthatlittleextra]

@@calvinmaestro3400 Great stuff. Think you're spot on testing out so many higher numbered hybrids and woods to finalise your bag set up 👍

[@rdj3video]

10 club bag (on purpose) using 24-30-36 hybrid then jump to my 46 degree wedge on the short end or 21 degree 7 wood on the long end. Complete sets of irons are a joke. Yes blended sets are becoming popular. I think regular golfers aren’t going to maximize results from 7 total irons. I see lots of old iron sets from golfers who have no desire to drop $1200. I’m not saying you need to bag less than 14 clubs, but maybe we need to rethink what type of club we need from 22 degrees up to about 42 degrees.

[@davidludwig5476]

Agree. Fourteen clubs is ridiculous. Seven would be my number. But as with most things, there is money to be made with complication and complexity. They should play pro tournaments where players are rewarded one stroke for every club they remove from their bag for each round. Then we would find out how many clubs you really need!

[@matthewdale956]

Good video 👍

[@GolfingFocus]

Many thanks Matthew. Much appreciated 👍

[@waynegood9233]

Do they make them with no offset I usually hook the ball especially out of the rough

[@GolfingFocus]

One thing to look out for sure when it comes to the wide body versions of hybrids is that they are typically biased towards producing a draw. Wouldn’t stop this making them a consideration though and a good fitted can help without question find one that can work for you 👍

[@joevorachack3791]

Freddy Couple longest iron he carries is a 6 iron and he is better than all of us.

[@GolfingFocus]

He's some player for sure Joe and still hitting it great in his mid-sixties. Swing is still as smooth. And from what i saw last his longest iron is a 7-iron and he's using a 6-hybrid these days!

[@randyposs6281]

I found a olimar9- hybrid....its 42 degrees

[@nealhamamura4263]

I think too many golfers use clubs the pros use. Most average golfers can benefit from hybrids. I use 6,5 and 4 hybrids and love them.

[@GolfingFocus]

Totally agree and if I’m honest I probably pay too much attention to what the top PGA and Liv tour pros are using if I’m honest. Think much more to be learned from Champions and especially LPGA Tour pros who play more hybrids up the bag.

[@nealhamamura4263]

@@GolfingFocus that is a really good point. Never thought of that but it makes a lot of sense.

[@addthatlittleextra]

@@nealhamamura4263 Some more videos coming soon also on what the champions tour and LPGA tour pros are using.

[@jameswhite4102]

Not for me, I’m already a high hitter, 18 handicap and playing driver, 3w then driving iron trough to PW all irons followed by my vokeys 👌

[@GolfingFocus]

Fair enough James. Key thing as you say is that your set up is working for you 👍

[@jameswhite4102]

@@GolfingFocus no 2 golfers are the same 👍

[@pdmv8471]

I love my hybrids. I carry 2 and sometimes 3 no 5 wood. But as a club fitter/builder I cringed at the quote of the 24/38 rule by a modern day PGA teaching pro. (That title always makes me think about a line from a Woody Allen movie - "those who can't do, teach. Those who can't teach, teach phys ed"). That dinosaur came about when blades roamed the earth. That was a 3 iron back in the day and spawned witty sayings such as "only God can hit a 1 iron". Too many 5 irons are those specs today. Does it still hold true? Only for a blade or a shallow cavity back. All the rest have overly engineered heads that have positioned the weight low and away from the face with faces that flex every which way imaginable. Introducing a new set of problems that have replaced the 24/38 rule with low face or toe strikes. And folks wonder why that can't make center face contact.

[@GolfingFocus]

Would be great to get your feedback on what you think is a better rule for modern clubs. Key thing we are trying to get across with all our videos and certainly with this one is to get people thinking about hybrids and we would certainly argue that everyone should have at least one as we talk about in the video. The various items in the video are just starting points for people's testing and as much as people can afford to would always recommend going to a club fitter where they can. 👍

[@pdmv8471]

@@GolfingFocus In the old days we bought clubs one at a time from a barrel. 😄 Unfortunately, there can be no rule today. Not with the design of today's irons and lack of standardization in the industry.

[@pdmv8471]

@@GolfingFocus I think I have an intelligent answer for you now. If it isn't intelligent...it is certainly a considered answer. 😉 I think possibly that one should consider spin rate by loft. Back in the day of real traditional lofts, the expectation was that you could look for each iron spinning in the neighborhood of 1000 rpms times the number of the iron. 5 iron - 5000 rpms. The loft on the 5 iron in the 1960s-1970s was 32*. That is many 7 irons today. So, a modern/current 7 iron spinning around 5000 rpms would be acceptable. A 28* 6 iron spinning at 4000 rpms. A 24 ish degree 5 iron at 3000rpms and so on. If you get higher spin-rates in the 6/5/4/3 irons, so much the better. At some point you will run out of loft and won't spin the ball enough for the club to be viable. This could be tweaked by length of shaft and/or lie angle...but currently I'm thinking spin rate might be the benchmark. Love your videos! Keep them coming! Your accent just drips golf. All the best!

[@GolfingFocus]

@@pdmv8471Apologies it has taken me so long to come back to you on this. Your reply got lost in my inbox and so I missed it. I am certain you are right that spin rate by loft is a benchmark that golfers could certainly consider and may lead them to the best results. Only caveat I have is that the 'average' golfer tends to think (in my view at least) in much simpler terms and would struggle a bit using that as the benchmark to get to their choice of hybrids. I may be wrong of course! Huge thanks also for the feedback and following the channel. It is very much appreciated! 👍👍

[@zazhou]

​@@pdmv8471, you have good thinking on spin rates and loft. More simplistically, a golfer should be playing with hybrids and irons that do not roll out more than twenty yards and preferably fifteen yards and less.

[@Macallan562]

I re shafted 5 Ben Hogan (1 - 5) hybrids for my wife. All regular flex. She hits them well. Her average scores dropped by 5 shots. Bye the way, she doesn't play ladies clubs.

[@GolfingFocus]

That's great news and delighted to hear her score has dropped so much. Agree 100% also with the not looking at ladies clubs as it doesn't really matter. Getting the best weighted clubs and shafts for the individual golfer's swingspeed is the key for sure.

[@phillipbarrett6467]

So who was the non golfer crash test dummy at 10.:40?

[@GolfingFocus]

Didn't want to identify themselves! 😂👍

[@CacheCropp]

I think eventually the average golfer will carry more hybrids than irons. It’s a natural progression and is only delayed by peer pressure and perception to play sets of irons.

[@GolfingFocus]

It's a possibility for sure although there are so many options now. Think it's great now people can either play 9 or even 11 woods or mix up their iron sets going from game improvement or even super game improvement with the low irons all the way to players irons at the short end of the bag. Key thing is probably just to make sure you are taking all the help you can from tech in clubs wherever you can get it 👍

[@Idle_Koala]

I agree. I am new to golf, only been playing for a year. I am very much utilitarian with my clubs. I use Cleveland smart sole wedges, and 4h and 5h hybrids instead of long irons. Looking into getting a 3h for the top end and maybe even replacing my 6i with a 6h. Why make golf hard? I’m shooting right around 90 right now and these clubs are to thank

[@GolfingFocus]

Great stuff. Think you’re absolutely spot on with your approach and hope it keeps paying dividends on the course 👍

[@beng4647]

Zero chance good players will ever use them.

[@robertcourt8593]

​@@beng4647lol freddy couples has a 6h in his bag now. Anyone who's competing and gets beaten by someone with a bag full of hybrids and lofted woods will soon start giving them a try. You'd have to have a pretty messed up ego to keep losing on the basis that you have less headcovers in the bag!

[@anthonyfoster5307]

My only issue is the majority seem draw biased so turn my draw into a hook.

[@GolfingFocus]

Yup, for sure a number of players find this. Hopefully though with all the models out there now you can find one that works for you. 👍

[@BEAN9999]

0 hybrids. I have 6 woods in the bag including driver. Fairway woods are so much easier to hit.

[@GolfingFocus]

Interesting. 👍What’s the highest wood you are playing in that case? And what is the key advantage you think they give you even over the wide bodied hybrids?

[@BEAN9999]

@GolfingFocus 1st, i am a high swing player. My woods are driver 6*-300+yds 3wd 13.5*-275yds 5wd 18.5*-250 yds 7wd 22.5*-230 yds 9wd 27*-215yds 13wd 31* 200 yds I have tried hybrids in the past and I am not consistent with them st all. I am better with low irons than any hybrid. But fairway woods are just so much fun and so easy to hit.

[@GolfingFocus]

@@BEAN9999 Wow. Those are incredible yardages. On or above the PGA Tour averages for all of them which is incredible!

[@patstoll4044]

@@BEAN9999 keep dreaming

[@NineEyeRon]

Ideally I want to carry just one hybrid, a 5 hybrid, then go right into a 7 wood.

[@richardc6932]

I agree, I carry a 5H as well as a g425 5W and a 7W. Longest iron in the bag is a 6iron, down to a 57 deg. sW. At my age 75+, I dropped the driver and eventually also the 3W. My g425 5w adjusted one degree flatter give me 180 +/- carry and in the fairway. I have nothing against laying up on the par 4s.👍🇨🇦👨‍🦳

[@toadamine]

when i was terrible with a driver, i was good with hybrids... now that im better with a driver... i think im worse with hybrids... lol

[@GolfingFocus]

It's a horrible game sometimes for sure 😂 Hope the magic with the hybrids comes back 👍

[@mikepainter2135]

Blah, blah, blah