What I Got Wrong About Dominaria United | Magic: the Gathering | Nizzanotes #59

[@benkentucky4380]

New Capenna: Wizards tries to release a dedicated three-color limited set, but releases another two color set, and not even all 5 colors are viable. Dominaria United: Wizards somehow releases an "up to 5 colors" limited set. And defender somehow!?

[@monogreen]

This limited format was designed by the same person who designed Neon Dynasty. I think we need them to design all limited formats going forward :)

[@altromonte15]

The problem with Capenna was that there was no incentive to go full 3 colors, occasionally you had a 3color card to splash, but most of the time commons and uncommons were really pushed, you played on curve and didn't need anything else Dominaria has domain, an actual incentive to get multiple colors

[@fulltime4545]

IDK, I always played 3-colored decks in capenna and was pretty succesful overall.

[@CanadianBaconPwnage]

Almost everytime I've seen Karn hit the board with a gummed up field, if it was allowed to ultimate with 2-3 powerstones/artifacts, it was almost always an eventual game ender. Sure, the opponent can just muscle through it and race the pings, but often good Karn decks are controlling, and having such an inevitable win condition is so nice.

[@michaelmaniloff9297]

I agree. I was surprised how sour everyone was on that card immediately.

[@junhianling]

What surprised me was that even without much artifacts or mana karn can just outright generate so much card advantage that if he isn't removed on the turn it came down he'll just overwhelm the opponent. Turns out just paying 1 random spare mana for 1 card every turn was pretty good

[@irou95]

@@junhianling yeah it's a 4 mana phyrexian arena if you have an even board. Just plus once and draw 5 cards. Or if the game goes really long you can draw a card every other turn after 4 draws. But the fact that karn is colorless so IT goes into literally every deck I would first pick him every time. B+ for me. Not a bomb but autoinclude in every deck for sure

[@toonvanzijl2351]

Nice! Finally got my first trophy decks this weekend. One in quick draft and one in premium. Always watch your video's to improve my game. 👍

[@pauljimerson8218]

I was taking a drink every time he said domain, I was wasted after two cards.

[@dyne313]

So many cards! You musn't have taken good enough Nizzanotes. hehe I kid. I love the videos.

[@moldyorangepeel]

Underrated cards are way more interesting than overrated cards

[@faerie7dragon]

Domain being an archetype makes my Invasion block loving side a very happy MTG player.

[@RafaelAAMerlo]

I liked the set and did good in it. Thanks for the set review, even when we realized domain was better than you predicted your advice was soo good that course-correcting was easy. Thanks Nizza 🤟

[@JodouTR]

Meanwhile Founding the Third Path ended up being most likely a new staple in Esper reanimator decks. The value is off the charts in constructed, but yeah in draft was always going to be a dud.

[@Lcngopher]

Used jodahs codex in my prerelease deck and it was great. Also didnt hurt i had jodah, two walkers, and a handful of other legendaries making me five color anyway. Did pretty good that night

[@deifiedtitan]

Wonder if Phasing of Zhalfir would’ve been at least viable if it said “For each non-token creature destroyed this way…” It’s only about as much of a bend as returning a token to hand in blue is a de facto exile.

[@matkiley17]

Yeah that would've been a better wording. I've had it basically be a pump spell against me when it was played and destroyed 1/1 soldier tokens just for them to become 2/2's.

[@karlcoates2768]

Did you earn the achievement this draft season where your opponent plays phasing of zhalfir on step 1/2, and before they hit step 3 you play captain's call? I know I did. Opponent did the ol' pause, then scoop.

[@davispo7550]

I think Stronghold Arena doesn't need too much of a build-around if you go WB aggro, as there's enough fliers and creatures of MV=3 or under. That said, I think it caps out at C+ anyway

[@DopeyDopes]

Brawler, thank you for those RKO wins with twinferno gaia's might turn 4 full domain

[@pauljimerson8218]

That's stunning, your opponent must have went stone ❄️

[@SpitefulAZ]

Remind me how Nizzahone graded karna sylex. I drafted that once and it was fun.

[@NizzahonMagic]

I gave it a B+, and that was right

[@SpitefulAZ]

@@NizzahonMagic do you think it's a card that requires above average skill to play correctly?

[@abandonshipify]

Domain being the ... probably best deck in limited just sucks. 5 common piles everywhere.

[@xxANBUxx]

I know im over a year laye, but wasnt Tatyova a bomb uncommon for the domain deck?

[@TheRedGauntlet]

My WInning deck used Founding the Third Path decently tough :(

[@shwncmmngs]

Wouldn't blast be worse in base white domain because arrest becomes good in base white?

[@kjmergen]

Founding The Third Path is absolutely bonkers in a constructed deck, terrible in a draft deck.

[@philj9491]

This limited format made me realize how bad I am at limited.

[@andresperez7476]

Timeless lotus great card 🐳🐋🐞

[@stefanoderosa9506]

Founding the third path is not an F by any means, I've made it work a couple of times with decks full of instants (and one or two repossessions) and it felt very good, it is sure a build around card but it must be at least a D

[@NizzahonMagic]

I don't think so, the data supports that it does more harm than good when you play it.

[@stefanoderosa9506]

@@NizzahonMagic I'm not saying that it's good, just that F to me sounds like "straight up unplayable" (like for example Urza assembles the titans) which founding clearlg isn't either

[@stefanoderosa9506]

@@NizzahonMagic using again a removal spell was always great. The sinergy with repossession was very good Then the self mill on chapter 2 allowed some more shenanigans: tolarian terror and writhmass discounts, targets for repossession and the third chapter of founding itself... In a tuned UB(G) deck it was more than fine. I would rate it as a D- in an average deck and a D+/C- in a synergistic deck.

[@LlywellynOBrien]

@@NizzahonMagic In fairness the data is a little insensitive in this area. In theory a card might look better than it could be in a vacuum because it is easy to use (like some signpost uncommons which really help the player in drafting and games) while another might look worse because it is harder to make work.

[@irou95]

The white combat trick that gives a counter and ID and lifelink is b+ for me. I always get 7 wins if I get 2-4 of those

[@NizzahonMagic]

It is certainly good, but it is very, very hard for a trick to get a grade that high. The situational nature makes it something you never take early.

[@irou95]

@@NizzahonMagic But it's the second best white card in winrate after wingmantle data backs me up

[@ItsDangerousGoAlone]

21:56, a two mana 2/3 is a good rate even for an aggro deck

[@maxwellbalkema5388]

Rootwalla for me was definitely like a b or a b+ compared to nishoba brawler often saw it be a 7/7 or 6/6 just so strong

[@mikemosz]

This video completely summarises why I hated this format. Domain was too easy to get, so you could play a 5c good stuff pile, and the only alternative was pure aggro.

[@Vi0ar]

I completely agree, at the start it was so much fun, but after a few weeks it just turned into 5c domain or red white aggro

[@gunnertlc7728]

Agreed

[@crushedscouter9522]

lol no you don't seem to understand the format very well. should probably refrain from absolute statements that are just wrong

[@CoopCooper.]

20 cards wrong. Way to tell people what to look for👍

[@philj9491]

This limited format made me realize how bad I am at limited.

[@LlywellynOBrien]

Haha yeah a complex environment with loads of hard choices can really make that obvious for us! Hopefully we can improve with time!