Watched a couple of your vids. U do a good job. Had the same 1720lb capacity HF trailer....bought in 2009 for $340. I put deck boards on bottom utilizing existing frame holes. It was a great little trailer...it hauled a couple pianos, soil, rocks, trash, furniture you name it. It was killed 2 years ago by a hurricane...a large branch fell from about 40 feet and bent it in half. I'd say I got my $340 worth, but pretty sure it would've lasted another 10 years. Great trailer.
@OffGridAdventure3 жыл бұрын
Thank you. That’s a wild ending for your trailer. I feel like I’ve got my money out of it after the first big trip vs. the cost of renting a uhaul trailer.
@noahriding57805 ай бұрын
So do you guys think these little HF trailers really can stand up to the full 1700 lb capacity? Thanks.
@johnhufnagel2 жыл бұрын
I bought the 1195# folding version almost 20 years ago. It's no joke to say I've hauled more stuff with that trailer than most people (on the east coast) have EVER hauled in the beds if their pickups. Best $200 I've ever spent.
@OffGridAdventure Жыл бұрын
They’re a great deal. I’m about to load it up again this weekend for another trip.
@mrutkowski072 жыл бұрын
Appreciate this video and the comments tons. I have an old 4x8 homemade utility trailer that we’ve used for about 35 years. I’ve rebuilt it twice, welded on when it broke, hauled more wood than you can imagine. It’s called the Zaba Trailer. Polish for frog. It’s time for something simple and new, this looks like it. Thank you
@OffGridAdventure2 жыл бұрын
Right on. 35 years is definitely a payback in your initial purchase. Good luck with the next one!
@JoJo-11of119 күн бұрын
I just refurbished an 05, corners of crossmembers were rotten and had to get some new ones. A big key to having good luck with this trailer is to make sure you use mechanical lock-in nuts or grip nuts instead of the one-use low carbon elastic lock nuts and also be sure to use grade 8 USS flat washers on both sides of your connections. Be careful of made in China trailer tires , they will crack and leak in a years time. Otherwise it’s a good little unit .
@glock19gen32 жыл бұрын
I will be buying one and welding all the major joints and connections... peace of mind, priceless.
@OffGridAdventure2 жыл бұрын
That’s a wise move. Be sure to square everything up. The trailer can easily be skewed, but you won’t notice it until its all together.
@GrantOakes Жыл бұрын
Thanks for your unbiased review of this trailer. I'm designing a tear drop trailer and plan on using this Harbor Freight trailer as the base. Bolts won't be an issue for me as it won't be folder, so I am going to weld the frame rails together and then remove the bolts.Checking the bearing temperature is a GREAT idea and finally gives me the excuse of buying that laser thermal gun I've always wanted but didn't have a real use for.
@OffGridAdventure Жыл бұрын
I think it is a fine frame to start with. The bearings are still holding up fine.
@l1ntkingofska6 ай бұрын
Did you find any good tutorial videos or plans that include everything to build a teardrop?
@MrPenobe2 жыл бұрын
Holy shit, thank you! finally found a video of someone actually using the damn thing!
@OffGridAdventure2 жыл бұрын
It’s still hauling good. I have a big trip coming up with it soon.
@guyh.45532 жыл бұрын
Good review. I'll add mine. * Bearing Buddies extremely smart! * Great idea for the light housing! * Tip: For your pocket stake and bolts, on the back side put tee-nuts into the bolt holes. That way when you cinch down the eye bolt it sucks it down very tight to the stake pocket. * FYI: The trailer paint DOES FADE over time. * When I built mine, I threw away all the included bolts and nuts then replaced them with Imperial (American) high grade hardware * One thing that I would suggest that I've seen done is to extend the tongue with a section of box tubing. I'm going to do that this spring I think. Would significantly help when backing the trailer. !!! Major Tip!!!! When putting on the lug nuts for the wheels, MAKE SURE THAT THE CONE SHAPE GOES INTO THE WHEEL! If you do not, the lugs will make their way loose and then the tire will wobble which will catch into the fender. Your tire WILL BLOW and it can be expensive! I'm speaking from personal experience. My 1720# easily hauled my Jayco Pop-Up PU Camper. Overall, they are good trailers when they're modified a bit. Good review
@OffGridAdventure2 жыл бұрын
All great tips! I'm about to dust off the trailer for a cross country trip, and I'll make sure to check everything before I go.
@qwikz282 жыл бұрын
Good idea on extending the tongue.
@theodoreolson85293 ай бұрын
I have one of these..had it for many many years. When new I had the frame welded up and paid to have it painted with some industrial epoxy. It's bullet proof, pretty much. Towed it across the US loaded down with no issues. Anyway it worked for me and I think it's a good solution for the occasional run to the landfill. That said, you can rent UHaul trailers pretty cheaply and you don't have to store them.
@mudspringer6 ай бұрын
I just put one of these together. My cardinal rule is *never* use Harbor Freight fasteners - but the ones that came with mine are at least rated category 8. Fingers crossed. Nice vid thanks for posting it.
@SaveAmerica698 ай бұрын
I have an original Harbor freight trailer from 1987. That had the 8 inch wheels on it. And I still have it, have beautiful sides on it. Sides are made out of angle iron and exterior plywood very nice, and sturdy.
@johnc73213 ай бұрын
Have had mine for 8 years. Put the plywood floor in and added siding. Works great. Only problem is the vertical 2x4s holding the siding are very shaky because there's no support, just two bolts on the bottom. I screwed eye bolts onto them and ran rope around the sides to keep the walls stable.
@NoClueHowBoutYou3 күн бұрын
Just towed mine 2500 miles and can tell the tires are going fast
@michaelmorales31142 жыл бұрын
I just picked up one of these for free I’m going to welding everything and put bigger leaf spring and hubs, but cool vid. Oh yeah turn the ball around on your hitch it will give you a inch or two height. Everyone can use an inch or two.
@OffGridAdventure Жыл бұрын
Yep. great idea about the ball.
@MetrologyEngineer2 жыл бұрын
I’m very glad you take care of your equipment well and always travel prepared.
@OffGridAdventure2 жыл бұрын
Hey, I appreciate it. I’ve been on the side of the road enough that I try to be ready.
@donaldskipper782811 ай бұрын
Put the tag on the fender, and add a tag light on the fender on top of the tag where it will light up the tag, is what another of people is doing around in Virginia is doing, to keep the tag from bending up or ripping off .
@annettttАй бұрын
I like the stringers on the outside of the posts for a true id 4x8, I'm doing it
@Carlie_flower2 жыл бұрын
I really appreciate these videos.
@OffGridAdventure2 жыл бұрын
Thank you. I made this one just for fun.
@stanpeterson82732 жыл бұрын
Good way to blow the seals on the hubs when you use the bearing buddies. BTW most of those Harbor freight trailers already have zero fittings on the back side. The wheel has to be rotated when adding grease through the fitting.
@stanpeterson82732 жыл бұрын
Edit: ZERK fittings.
@OffGridAdventure2 жыл бұрын
I replaced the OEM fittings with plugs. One broke off the first time I used it. So, I was not convinced that it would hold up. Trailer is still holding up fine, and I have not put any new grease in since the video.
@user-ve7pq3sy9q3 ай бұрын
Your trailer is grounding through the trailer ball using the Sienna Chassis ground. It's best to reconnect that ground
@MichaelWhite-cx4ho2 ай бұрын
Sold! Thanks for the testimonial and tips! Iron sharpens iron and makes U.S. all the better and stronger, and, in this case, safer as well.
@bigmarkthe18 ай бұрын
Well let me say this I'm a successful contractor all my trailers and most my tools come from harbor freight they my heroes save me a small fortune get a life.
@andrewsbbq4 ай бұрын
The manual says to not exceed 45mph… what is the actual limiting factor? What are the tires speed rating? Can the hubs not handle 60+mph? 45mph is kinda useless if true
@johnj8514 Жыл бұрын
On road trips, I learned, i don't want to burdened with ANY trailer. PIA that's best avoided if possible. For me it is. I came really close to dumping the last one off a mountain, 1,000 miles from home.🤣
@davea51503 ай бұрын
Hardware stores don't sell wood. Home Depot Stores and other home stores do.
@seansoutdoors2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing. If you are ever passing through Iowa on a long trip, let me know. We can meet up and do a video together. God bless you.
@OffGridAdventure Жыл бұрын
I might pass through this summer on a road trip from MO to WA.
@seansoutdoors Жыл бұрын
@@OffGridAdventure let's meet up for lunch
@noahriding57805 ай бұрын
You quoted the temperature of the car getting to 220. I wanted to ask, how often should someone stop and take breaks to curb that? Like, in theory you could maybe drive 4 hours only, or ... whatever? Maybe driving all day 10 hours it gets to 220? So maybe someone could break the drive down to 3 hours, 4 hours or 2 hours, then rest. Then go again, rinse repeat? But I don't know what the ideal interval is for that? But for sure prolonged engine heat without allowing it to cool down would be hard on the life of the car. So this is why I hoped for feedback on this. Thanks.
@PainterD54Ай бұрын
That chip board is about the worst crap you could use for a trailer deck. It will sweel up as soon as it gets any kind of moisture near it. Even if you paint it, it will fall apart. Use some real green pressure treated plywood id you want something that lasts.
@swdw1974782 жыл бұрын
I built a teardrop with my harbor freight trailer, I have 2200 lbs total weight,I went with bigger leaf springs
@OffGridAdventure Жыл бұрын
I’ve seen some nice teardrop conversions with this trailer. Sounds like a fun project.
@ItAintMeBabe992 жыл бұрын
Great review, thanks !
@EB-nz1qv2 жыл бұрын
That’s not plywood; it’s OSB. 😁
@Nemo-yn1sp Жыл бұрын
This is exactly the information I was looking for. What's the longest distance travelled with it on the highway? I'm thinking of using one behind my Grand Caravan to go from FL to New Mexico, then put it in storage while I roam around for a while. How often did you need to replace the tires?
@OffGridAdventure Жыл бұрын
I still use it now, I have not replaced the tires, but I recently bought a spare. It's a great trailer.
@jenniferwise85153 жыл бұрын
Nice video. Be wondering how it holds up over good and bad roads. Did you have to put it together?
@OffGridAdventure3 жыл бұрын
I put it together a few years ago and hauled it across the country. It’s getting beat up, so I inspect it every time I use it. I’m surprised it still hauls.
@marcosozzi7492 ай бұрын
Overtightening bolt could explain the failure. Just food for thought 🤔
@gulzeb3 жыл бұрын
Just FYI, that's OSB, not plywood
@OffGridAdventure3 жыл бұрын
I was surprised when I got it that the hardware store didn’t have any solid plywood and had to get this to complete the build. I’ll eventually swap it out, but it’s never been rained on and hasn’t started to crumble yet.
@---cr8nw2 жыл бұрын
When you get actual plywood, paint it with Rustoleum Truck Bed Liner spray paint, especially the edges. It'll keep water out and help it last a LOT longer. I wouldn't recommend doing that to the OSB because paint (of any kind) might hide the damage as it deteriorates.
@OffGridAdventure2 жыл бұрын
I’m surprised, but the top of the deck is still in good shape. I’ve never let it get wet, and don’t want to let it get wet. I need to check underneath though, because I have driven on rainy days, so the the bottom could be about to cave.
@jdshriver332 жыл бұрын
I just subscribed because you said not to. Awesome video. And good detail. I'm won't go into what I'm planning. But your video was great. I'm sorry I subscribed. I won't do it again.
@OffGridAdventure Жыл бұрын
Right on! This was a fun video to make.
@badgorilla Жыл бұрын
Growing up in the Jungle we would carry everything on our backs. That minivan is squatted like it’s about to take a crap and the crap is fittingly that HF trailer. C’mon man!
@OffGridAdventure Жыл бұрын
Ha! That trailer is still holding up. Here’s the update going over all of the problems I’ve had with it. kzbin.info/www/bejne/aYbRZJ6KfrKcecksi=iAltIQrpS_jOCjTD
@smoejith92832 жыл бұрын
Mine looks identical, but I think it was rated for 2k pounds? I need 2 new tires, mine have sidewall cracks just from sun and age. I use protectant and try to keep them in the shade or covered with trash bags to keep the sun off.
@OffGridAdventure Жыл бұрын
Nice. So, after reading a lot of comments, it seems like the gross weight rating is 2,000 lbs.
@ronmeidlinger2492 жыл бұрын
Overpacking wheel bearings increases the operating temperature
@OffGridAdventure2 жыл бұрын
I believe it. Theoretically, these bearing buddies can’t be over packed. The excess pushes out of the front.
@91rss8 ай бұрын
the one with 4.80-12 tires are speed rated at 45 MPH. they are terrible to back up as well.
@ddaddybass2 жыл бұрын
I’m going to buy one of these. I think I’ll upgrade to grade 8 bolts.
@OffGridAdventure2 жыл бұрын
Great idea, this one has held up fine since then.
@Fireguy979 ай бұрын
You need to learn the difference between what a sheet of plywood is and a sheet of particle board.
@---cr8nw2 жыл бұрын
Any concerns about the tires? They're only rated for 55 mph. I'm thinking about getting one of these little trailers, but I don't really want to dump another $250 into it for wheels and tires that are rated for 75+ mph. But it wouldn't do me any good if I couldn't take it on the highway.
@OffGridAdventure2 жыл бұрын
The tires have held up great so far. I am always checking them, always concerned with them. But, no issues. I keep them inflated to the max, because they are not radials and have thin walls. Also, I believe there were a few years that the tires were not reliable, but HF has a better supplier now. They feel balanced, so no shaking on the highway.
@adamborgstahl55408 ай бұрын
How fast have you gone down the highway?
@ratoneJR2 жыл бұрын
if you car suspension bottoms out when your car is loaded, you trailer has too much tongue weight.
@OffGridAdventure Жыл бұрын
I also have gear in the van.
@krisnickfffs Жыл бұрын
Get grade 8 bolts from home depot
@OffGridAdventure Жыл бұрын
Great idea.
@chillios2222Ай бұрын
that definitely is a hurting on fuel economy
@arisafghanzada6 ай бұрын
Hello Off Grid Adventures! I'm considering buying this trailer for my own little adventure that my girlfriend and I want to try. We're in KC and want to travel to Idaho with my Triumph motorcycle so I can ride the back roads and she can do some hiking. The idea is to buy a DrawTie hitch for her Honda CR-V and load my bike on the Haul Master. The bike is only 476 lbs so it won't overload the weight, but I'm not sure about the speed capacity. The Harbor Freight manual states to keep it at 45mph, which would just not work for the interstate trip. What was the max speed that you kept the trailer at? Any considerations you can call out for higher than 45mph speed with the trailer? Thanks!
@OffGridAdventure6 ай бұрын
I recommend that you follow the manufacturer’s guidance. There are liability issues with doing anything else.
@arisafghanzada6 ай бұрын
@@OffGridAdventure Understood, thanks for the feedback! As an update, I continued doing some research and asked around a bit more for specifications, considerations, and context on the speed ratings. I checked with some folks from etrailer and from the tire manufacturer Carlisle, as well as checking the ratings of the tires sold in the Harbor Freight store against the trailer specific owner's manual. The indication seems to be that the 45mph speed listed in the manual is a safety speed that the trailer should not sway at. The sway seems to be a concern over 45-55mph with this 1720lb capacity trailer as it is very light and would not have the tongue capacity on its own to prevent sway at higher speeds. However, if the trailer is properly weighted and properly loaded (loads 60% ahead of axle), then the trailer should not sway. Beyond swaying, the trailer bearings, the stock grease, and the stock tires should handle high speed travel. The 5.30-12 Carlisle Sport Trail LH (6H01381) is load/speed rated 82N which (in the Harbor Freight manual) translates to 1047lb load rating and an 87mph speed rating when properly inflated (80psi) /loaded (carlstar dot com/our-products/product-detail/sport-trail-lh/ # tech_tab). That said, 87mph is probably pushing it and even the etrailer folks suggest keeping it around 67mph. For anyone looking to go beyond the 45mph stated limit in the manual, they should focus on getting the tongue weight and trailer loading relationship with the tow vehicle just right to avoid a catastrophic failure. But of course, since this info deals with some potentially dangerous or even fatal concepts, don't listen to me, find out your own answers from the pros.
@arisafghanzada6 ай бұрын
@@OffGridAdventure Understood, thanks for the feedback! As an update, I continued doing some research and asked around a bit more for specifications, considerations, and context on the speed ratings. I checked with some folks from etrailer and from the tire manufacturer Carlisle, as well as checking the ratings of the tires sold in the Harbor Freight store against the trailer specific owner's manual. The indication seems to be that the 45mph speed listed in the manual is a safety speed that the trailer should not sway at. The sway seems to be a concern over 45-55mph with this 1720lb capacity trailer as it is very light and would not have the tongue capacity on its own to prevent sway at higher speeds. However, if the trailer is properly weighted and properly loaded (loads 60% ahead of axle), then the trailer should not sway. Beyond swaying, the trailer bearings, the stock grease, and the stock tires should handle high speed travel. The 5.30-12 Carlisle Sport Trail LH (6H01381) is load/speed rated 82N which (in the Harbor Freight manual) translates to 1047lb load rating and an 87mph speed rating when properly inflated (80psi) /loaded (carlstar dot com/our-products/product-detail/sport-trail-lh/ # tech_tab). That said, 87mph is probably pushing it and even the etrailer folks suggest keeping it around 67mph. For anyone looking to go beyond the 45mph stated limit in the manual, they should focus on getting the tongue weight and trailer loading relationship with the tow vehicle just right to avoid a catastrophic failure. But of course, since this info deals with some potentially dangerous or even fatal concepts, don't listen to me, find out your own answers from the pros.
@OffGridAdventure6 ай бұрын
@@arisafghanzada I agree with everything you said, and did similar research. I don’t have any sway issues with almost 14k miles on the trailer with original tires. At full load the tongue weight is around 200lbs and manageable.
@fernandizo Жыл бұрын
where did you get the air bags for your vans suspension ? I need those for my subaru legacy..
@mtnguyen1696 Жыл бұрын
just curious about the 45mph max speed from the manual, when does that apply (empty trailer or that's just max recommendation when pulling)? but everyone on youtube were going 70mph at some point.
@OffGridAdventure Жыл бұрын
You’ll have to follow that 45mph speed if that’s what’s stated in the manual. I can’t recommend anything else. My tires are rated up to 87mph, but other factors may lower the speed for liability reasons.
@mtnguyen1696 Жыл бұрын
@@OffGridAdventure are you using the tires that came with the trailer?
@OffGridAdventure Жыл бұрын
@@mtnguyen1696 yes, and you can find out more about them here: www.carlstar.com/our-products/product-detail/sport-trail-lh/
@user-cd3yn6zh1n Жыл бұрын
Concerned about taking the trailer on the highway to transport 2 kayaks and coolers. Probably only 300-400 pounds. Any issue with highway speed travel? The trailer is rated for max 45MPH.
@OffGridAdventure Жыл бұрын
Is your trailer new? I can’t speak for your trailer, but mine has no problems at any normal speed. I just posted an update last month. kzbin.info/www/bejne/aYbRZJ6KfrKceck
@demoguy12 Жыл бұрын
What is the height of the receiver hitch from the ground when the trailer is level?
@OffGridAdventure Жыл бұрын
It depends some on the trailers Suspension and load. Around 12”-15”. I’m loading up the trailer this weekend and will measure.
@mr.shadestrains60332 жыл бұрын
Kool ❤👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
@OffGridAdventure Жыл бұрын
Right on!
@draketdraco2 жыл бұрын
Do you think that trailer would hold your quad?
@OffGridAdventure2 жыл бұрын
Hi, the quad in the video would fit. The trailer has a loading feature and the sides come off like a Red Ryder Wagon. Many people make these trailers into toy haulers.
@joeb59182 жыл бұрын
Do you by any chance remember the size of the boxes that the hitch came in?
@OffGridAdventure2 жыл бұрын
The Curt hitch?
@OffGridAdventure2 жыл бұрын
I don’t remember exactly, but it is a big box that weights about 50lbs. Something like 24” x 12” x 48” plus or minus a few inches.
@Nessal832 жыл бұрын
Do you have to constantly grease the wheel bearings?
@OffGridAdventure2 жыл бұрын
No, but it’s so easy to do that I pump it up every few thousand miles. Still pulls smooth.
@davea51503 ай бұрын
OSB SUCKS FOR A TRAILER FLOOR. 3/4 PLYWOOD #1
@thistexanspov633729 күн бұрын
Ya I don't get all these peeps using OSB for applications like that.
@silentvoiceinthedark56655 ай бұрын
How often do you have to grease the bearings?
@OffGridAdventure5 ай бұрын
Not very often.
@silentvoiceinthedark56655 ай бұрын
@@OffGridAdventure Well that is a good answer. I was afraid you were going to say every 600 miles.
@OffGridAdventure5 ай бұрын
@@silentvoiceinthedark5665 It’s been a few thousand miles. The trailer has about 15k miles. Same tires, and same bearings. I still check with the thermometer, and the thing pulls fine. I’m surprised how well it held up. I posted an update video about it this summer.
@aixaburlison42 жыл бұрын
Grade 8 bolts.
@OffGridAdventure2 жыл бұрын
I’m about to take a big trip with it. I’ll check all the bolts before I step of.
@androsborsato24 күн бұрын
Weird tarp job bro.
@brandonGCHACHU Жыл бұрын
Where did you get the light housing?
@OffGridAdventure Жыл бұрын
I got them through Amazon. There’s a link in the video description.
@inkman22442 жыл бұрын
No the bolt didn't break. You didn't tighten them up. Period!
@OffGridAdventure2 жыл бұрын
Definitely possible. The A arm swings to fold, so it’s possible the the folding caused it to loosen. I think the trailer should come with carriage bolts for this connection.
@GrantOakes Жыл бұрын
@@OffGridAdventure And nylon lock nuts
@jimrosesadventureinmanilap7152 жыл бұрын
In most States the USA... If you're a trailer and load weigh more than 1500 pounds.... You are going to need trailer breaks... Along with breakaway switches.. And a Trailer battery For the break battery
@OffGridAdventure2 жыл бұрын
I towed a car on a dolly across country and used electric brakes for that, but before making this video removed the 7-pin and brake controller. It’s not too difficult to put back in if needed.
@SaltyLadyOBX10252 жыл бұрын
@@OffGridAdventure the limit for brakes in the US is 3000 lbs. That's why all single axle utility trailers by other manufacturers have a GVWR of 2990lbs, even though the axle rating is 3500 lbs.
@stevewheatley2436 ай бұрын
Never use Chinese bolts in anything. Theyre pure junk.