What I learned from teaching animation

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Toniko Pantoja

Toniko Pantoja

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@ryufromleupus
@ryufromleupus 4 жыл бұрын
Hearing another art teacher's perspective on methods on teaching animation gives me a sigh of relief. Though it's been 8 years since I graduated with an Animation Diploma, it still haunts me that my teachers despised anything that's not western animation (more cartoony, disney/pixar esque styles). They specifically despised 'anime' and said it's a trash medium. And as someone who did anime style animations, they really bombarded me with out of the blue lectures of 'You should stop animating anime if you knnow what's good for you'. This escalated to it affecting my grades as my finals, which I did through the worst of my depression phase and they were very aware of this, where I presented an original Concept Art along with Animatics (which even they commented was twice as much work as anyone in my batch did), and they gave me a 'B' "because of the art style". I tried to debate with them about it, asking if it was anything else than that (execution of story, backgrounds, not enough culture placement etc), but they flatly said "because you did it in an anime style" and to be honest, it caught me by surprise because not only did I tried to 'tone down' the style for them, but they said -nothing- throughout the 3 months of consultation we had. It's always bothered me too because this school was in Singapore. I was dumbfounded why something closer to Asian culture like anime was so despised in favour of other styles they find more significant. I had wondered if I had been missing something. because I did try to look at it from their perspectives but the only arguement they had was that it wasn't "as good" as western animation. which is vague and when asked to explain further, they kind of went in crircles. And these are teachers that have been teaching there for 20 years. But hearing your explanation and your point of view makes me breathe a sigh of relief because it's sort of make me feel like "ah, okay so it is just preferences after all... it wasn't that I did bad by choosing to animate in a style i love". Thank you so much for doing this video! I love animations regardless of styles and mediums because i do believe learning from diverse backgrounds and stories is the advantage of internnet these days. It's nice to see that i'm not alone in that thought ;v;
@PinkiL
@PinkiL 3 жыл бұрын
My professor was the same way and basically told me there is no way I can get a job as an animator unless I moved to Asia.
@tobs323
@tobs323 2 жыл бұрын
any advice on choosing an animation school? I have a BA in digital film production but am hoping to do a masters in animation. I'm considering just continuing to learn online but it's a little isolating and I'd like to collaborate more.
@cavemann_
@cavemann_ 4 жыл бұрын
This is priceless, every teacher should see this regardless of their respective field.
@G2Bpro
@G2Bpro 4 жыл бұрын
This is perfect timing. I just started teaching my first class in animation & modeling (3D). Thanks for making this video.
@laptopkid7283
@laptopkid7283 4 жыл бұрын
Holy sht. You did?? AWSOMMMEEE!!
@chimpobox
@chimpobox 4 жыл бұрын
you seem like a sweetheart teacher
@umphguy
@umphguy 4 жыл бұрын
I taught middle school film and animation for a year and found the students ended up teaching me a lot more than I taught them. Having to research the things they were into and what they wanted to create ultimately made me a better creator myself. I also learned the whole concept of creative voice in a whole new way. Def would love to get back to teaching, but not that age group cuz they can also be really mean :( lol
@PinkiL
@PinkiL 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for making this video! I'm teaching my first intro to 2D animation class and watching your video gave me a better idea of how to improve and tweak my lessons. Greatly appreciate this.
@jessejayjones
@jessejayjones 4 жыл бұрын
I love your videos Toniko, this was truly inspiring and uplifting to listen to! Thank you for taking the time to make such wonderful content for this community! ♥
@DaisyFarm_
@DaisyFarm_ 4 жыл бұрын
Midway through the video but 'just wanted to say, yes! Glen Keane did ask his grandchild to do that. He said that in a talk at Calarts that I think may still be on KZbin.
@Cletus_Johannes
@Cletus_Johannes 4 жыл бұрын
This video is so useful! your eaggerness and passion as always is so inspiring.
@rediisteadii7695
@rediisteadii7695 4 жыл бұрын
i’m not sure if i want to get into the industry/go to art school, but it i do i really hope i get taught by you! amazing video !!
@Dawnemperor1
@Dawnemperor1 3 жыл бұрын
I’m a little curious about how weight is portrayed without at least some form of squash and stretch, albeit subdued. Ultimately I agree though: there’s animation traditions around the world that do different things and have different goals, but are just as stylistically valid. Not sure I would say they all have the same goals per se.
@tobs323
@tobs323 2 жыл бұрын
camera shake, knocking things over, denting the environment - maybe even the line weight changing
@nairocamilo
@nairocamilo 4 жыл бұрын
Definitely agree with all the pointers
@shinypea5916
@shinypea5916 4 жыл бұрын
God.. love your videos toniko pantoja!
@carrlosvalenzuela1693
@carrlosvalenzuela1693 4 жыл бұрын
i have learn so much watching this video . i don't think in school show so much stuff
@mrcrobart
@mrcrobart 4 жыл бұрын
great video ^^
@artisticdreamer2429
@artisticdreamer2429 4 жыл бұрын
already only part-way through... like 3 mins in and I can say this is very insightful Edit: this thing is more chock full of information than this guy realizes....
@julhizantwo2277
@julhizantwo2277 4 жыл бұрын
You nail it about traditional tool for animation in indonesia. Thats true not for animation only, even i cant find pencil more than 2B type. But now i animate on phone and pentab connected
@yourmajestythequeen8147
@yourmajestythequeen8147 4 жыл бұрын
Julhizan Two If youre rly passionate u could find animation toolkit in aliexpress. I bought my lightbox there w/ a free shipping. Also there are stores like artland now
@Cherryblossom-ink
@Cherryblossom-ink 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you I work better when people show me and explain how to do it and how to us thing step by step ☺️
@McK14-w3z
@McK14-w3z 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks 💯❤️
@irismuddyhehe
@irismuddyhehe 4 жыл бұрын
really great !!!!
@luismarin3764
@luismarin3764 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Toniko! I'm looking to take your animation course on concept design academy, but I am more interested in working as a storyboard artist. Do you think it would be in my best interest to take your class or would it be better for me to just take a class specifically on storyboarding?
@claimingagate
@claimingagate 4 жыл бұрын
Teach me sensei
@jaymondlei8153
@jaymondlei8153 4 жыл бұрын
notification gang!
@DaanMacGillavry
@DaanMacGillavry 4 жыл бұрын
the Glen Keane example was with his son I believe
@nairocamilo
@nairocamilo 4 жыл бұрын
13:59 Thank God. Down with that stupid monopoly
@DarthBiomech
@DarthBiomech 4 жыл бұрын
A teacher that doesn't treat rules as Holy Commandments That Should Be Obeyed? What heresy is this?!
@drenamilton9425
@drenamilton9425 4 жыл бұрын
Some animation teachers make it very clear how much they hate anime and how little they think of anyone who likes anime as nothing more than a wanker/degenerate/not a real artist. You can see it here in the comments section, where as soon as Enrique noticed you mentioned anime he defaulted to insulting you as an artist and the people learning from you as randys(british slang for people hungry for sex).
@sebastianuber4085
@sebastianuber4085 4 жыл бұрын
Love it
@Axel-uc4uw
@Axel-uc4uw 4 жыл бұрын
Which school you teaching now pantoja?
@trousleperson632
@trousleperson632 4 жыл бұрын
Why weren't you in my recommendations!?
@hannahandlovics-joo8520
@hannahandlovics-joo8520 4 жыл бұрын
Great!
@zahrazohour1
@zahrazohour1 4 жыл бұрын
You're the best teacher better than my mother when she is teaching me how to cook or whatever
@nairocamilo
@nairocamilo 4 жыл бұрын
Mine says that I need to learn by eyeballing. Good luck, mom
@zahrazohour1
@zahrazohour1 4 жыл бұрын
@@nairocamilo LOL 😂
@grassfield5177
@grassfield5177 4 жыл бұрын
I really want to be able to animate as well as you. But i dont think i can go to an art school. I will take a different major and study art or animations by myself. Do you think i can do it and be as good as the people that graduate from an art school?
@sea-ra9995
@sea-ra9995 4 жыл бұрын
Hi can you give me advice for animating full body with mouse ?
@andreasnordin894
@andreasnordin894 4 жыл бұрын
Do you have a good suggestion on sites with good models to sketch from?
@iaz-
@iaz- 3 жыл бұрын
line of action
@T4nu1
@T4nu1 4 жыл бұрын
Where can I find out about your classes?
@shroomycreates6086
@shroomycreates6086 4 жыл бұрын
Hello
@aleph-tav
@aleph-tav 4 жыл бұрын
Do you teach any 3D animation?
@chesterharris4452
@chesterharris4452 4 жыл бұрын
Btw wacom has a rly good £30 tablet now
@qwerty_artist
@qwerty_artist 4 жыл бұрын
And there are lots of cheap non-wacom brands that have the same features (8k pen pressure, touch screen, etc)
@ArcadeJohnnyTime
@ArcadeJohnnyTime 4 жыл бұрын
Don Bluth could learn a thing or two from this video.
@fossilco.artrelateddocumen331
@fossilco.artrelateddocumen331 4 жыл бұрын
Fastest click in the West
@enriquecabrera2137
@enriquecabrera2137 4 жыл бұрын
"people who say dont learn from anime are dumb" Meanwhile literally all the professionals, even most that work with anime outright agree
@enriquecabrera2137
@enriquecabrera2137 4 жыл бұрын
Seems more like a kid who couldn't cut in the production industry so they settled for teaching the basics to randys who dont know any better
@dannacortes5238
@dannacortes5238 4 жыл бұрын
Jajajajaja yo hablo español que mal que no hay subtítulos en español
@deepseakraken89
@deepseakraken89 4 жыл бұрын
maybe sometime you could have like 50 percent off out off your products hehe
@MissyMona
@MissyMona 4 жыл бұрын
The aggression and hate for Japanese animation at least in part is a product of xenophobia. Remember this: Aaron Blaise likes Princess Mononoke. I'd probably avoid certain channels or be aware of their hidden xenophobia like BaM Animation.
@thethere5161
@thethere5161 4 жыл бұрын
Meow?Miyavv. MEEOOWOWOW 😺
@shinypea5916
@shinypea5916 4 жыл бұрын
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