I love Viper's AoE2 opinions the most. The fact that he is almost half as funny as DauT is a bonus.
@ashleythomas19887 ай бұрын
'almost! 😅
@tag180rotax7 ай бұрын
Saying "now that Japanese have bloodlines" as if they haven't had it for the better part of a decade
@Ancient_Regime887 ай бұрын
Crazy how long that mental muscle memory of a bloodlines-less Japanese has lasted for Viper 11
@umamifriends7 ай бұрын
I am also still surprised every game I see Japanese have bloodlines lol, can't believe its been years
@cesarlunakuri72137 ай бұрын
Hera and Viper both spoke highly about berbers, then they put them B tier 11
@lukasvideosify15967 ай бұрын
It is funny how this disputes a lot of things that Viper said before. I always get a feeling with him that he always ranks the units like he just feels. And would he rank it again, tomorrow, it would be slightly different.
@gletscherminze93727 ай бұрын
"Conscription, Sappers, Masonry this civ just has it all" except they dont have sappers...
@3398-i3f7 ай бұрын
I explicitly remind the first black forest game I played in DE. I had a dravidian pocket that would only spam ele archer and make no other unit the entire game, also no building outside his base, and will slowly get stalematey against the other flank with all those briton halbs and 80 longbows. So I needed to get 12 trebs and 80 imp skirms. It wasn't enough, the cavalry and siege from the pocket was always an issue, I think slavs. The winning move was, as viets, spam a ton of rams that would get the focus of melee units as well draw some from archers, invade production zone with imp skirm spam, and treb castles with all the surviving siege while 25 sapper vils take barracks after barracks. You always have to carry dravidians, the civ doesn't even have sappers. Dravs are probably not that bad, you have res for double range + db axe right on first 5 seconds, and can start production and fletching right on maybe even add a third if you need to commit feudal. Then when you get castle age you can probably have 3-4 ranges and use the 200 wood for a siege workshop, ofc it is a maniac gameplan but if you get the upper hand your opponent is in a world of pain.
@gebhard1287 ай бұрын
My top Civs are Georgians, huns, byzantines and armenians, Mules and churches help a lot on the open aggressive maps, dromons have their use and all of the civs have strong cavalry play in castle age or in case of byzantines a strong counter with the cheap camels
@miguelangelcosiorangel26177 ай бұрын
21:15 "That could be just because I'm bad" said the best player of AOE2 in the last years and one of the contenders for best player right now. Thats not humble man, thats flexing!
@mubashirulmoula17987 ай бұрын
The Dravidians love was way over the board. 11 Time laps 9:12
@ns-islandsroblox7 ай бұрын
This is so different from Hera's list
@karnazacss7 ай бұрын
Now I want a tier list debate between the two 11
@ns-islandsroblox7 ай бұрын
I'm normally on Hera's side in the debates but this time viper's tierlist actually makes more sense. I don't get why Hera rated huns and Mayans s tier@@karnazacss
@jvhotblast27067 ай бұрын
"You have villagers"
@DeJake7 ай бұрын
1111 Dravidians OP confirmed
@superguy6987 ай бұрын
They would fall off hard if they didn’t
@hR-gw3re7 ай бұрын
Pog
@felipea13997 ай бұрын
I think when starting in feudal, the Hindustanis just dont get to use the discount as much
@teddyhaines66137 ай бұрын
I think it's not until castle age that the discount really pops off, both because that's when you can get multiple TCs running and also because the discount goes up by age, so by then it's over double what you save in dark age.
@rickardberglund15647 ай бұрын
Så vad skulle de behöva göra för att gjöra vikingarna till en S civ?
@justlolit6 ай бұрын
This is very similar to the arabia civ teir list. A and S teir are basically the same
@nfnrjn7 ай бұрын
The way you were sad not able to rank Vikings higher being a Viking yourself, I feel the exact same way about Dravidians.
@blarch27 ай бұрын
Hey Viper, I would appreciate if you made a tier list for the best short-term and long-term strategies to get started winning games for 3-400 level players.
@dj_koen12656 ай бұрын
Easiest strats are scouts into knights
@axolotl83167 ай бұрын
Huns are A tier because Viper don't get housed when he plays huns
@yveskelders68407 ай бұрын
Persians vs goths on Karsts, any opinions?
@maelmoor7 ай бұрын
Awesome, I love tier lists, so really enjoyed this one! Great to see Vietnamese in s-tier!
@Agarillobob7 ай бұрын
Tier list viper is my favorite viper
@titusbaum96907 ай бұрын
Vikings C tier, nuff said. No way they are better than burgundians here.
@Gardo_117 ай бұрын
georgians are always at the top of the list but since TTL3 or since they’ve been available for tournaments i’ve seen y’all(top 100) lose with them the majority of the time
@PraveenR77 ай бұрын
Dravidians❤
@erensozen7917 ай бұрын
music is way too loud couldnt watch :(
@orlandogomez17187 ай бұрын
Vipah! Would love to see you play Manor Lords, I'm sure it will be hilarious!
@qrolf45207 ай бұрын
Hindustanis S tier really?
@minikawildflower7 ай бұрын
Super hard to counter
@evanjacob84637 ай бұрын
Protip: Skip to the end of the video and see the full tier list, then watch Viper discuss your fave civs.
@kralexprofill45717 ай бұрын
Damn, took a while to realise this is not AoE4. Bye guys...
@qrolf45207 ай бұрын
First
@andr3cb7 ай бұрын
Not very realistic...
@Melancholic_stoner7 ай бұрын
Why
@cwnhaernjqw7 ай бұрын
Not sure if you should be spreading this stuff around. You haven't won anything in a long time you are most likely misleading people with bad civs.. not to mention the recent BO7 against Hera
@thewarlord92387 ай бұрын
He is better than 99.99% of the aoe players, has years of experience and has remained at the top for the longest time in the aoe2 history, surely he knows what he is talking about
@Lakers24bn7 ай бұрын
He's still one of the 3 best players in the world so I'd value his opinion over some random dude on YT
@husseintoufaily24247 ай бұрын
Your opinion is D tier.
@silaszur7 ай бұрын
This guy made me laugh, not sure if he is a joking or not. Would be sad if not.
@bencross66547 ай бұрын
@@silaszur I'm pretty sure this guy is just posting intentionally disrespectful stuff on Viper's videos wherever he gets the chance. He's done this a few times already. There's clearly something pathological going on here. Hopefully he gets the help he needs.