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[@fratariensis]

2hp Loop is a very normal looper with different modes like Sound on Sound, Frippertronics and so on. And there is the Mannequins - W/ that also has loop mode besides the recording part.

[@star.trails]

It's a great module

[@reasons4171]

Yeah I have one and really recommend it. It’s simple yet quite powerful

[@jacksongable3243]

Its rad but it really needs a 2hp expander for a couple of extra triggers (play/pause/reset etc)

[@AndreCholmondeley]

I have had both, the early run of 2hp Loop had some noise issues. I returned three of them then decided to wait. I bought them from two different places and the person at one store said yes we’ve had some problems with these anyone have thoughts there? anyone else get a bad one maybe it’s time for me to try again. I also own the W/…… that that’s really great and far deeper and all kinds of cool functions…… but frustratingly I’ve had problems with it also! and I know the company once again had some issues, and there were software updates anyone have some insight there ?? did they clean up the bugs

[@AndreCholmondeley]

Followup: this thread/video inspired me to try ONE more time... picked up a 2HP Loop and it's working perfectly.Great! Simple/functional, badass

[@iamjamessmith]

Euroburo has your looping needs more than covered.

[@DetroitMicroSound]

I use the regular ZOIA, and, yup. -but also granular, with parameter sequencing/LFO, and a lot more.

[@JAdeWii_]

I just want a basic guitar looper in eurorack form, simple 3 button workflow, record, delete, overdub, am I asking too much? lol I guess I'll have to make it myself :P JK, not on my list of things to do, but I know the Buro can get deep, I'm sure it's a great looper.. but it's soo many HP >_

[@iamjamessmith]

@@JAdeWii_ Gotcha. I'd check out 2hp Loop then, sounds perfect for what you're after.

[@EZBOT_]

@@JAdeWii_ I got a buddy building a eurorack looper right now

[@piccoloblack]

Did not know you had a music channel, subbed

[@reddenstudio]

You will enjoy using your bitbox mk2 as a looper - 16 pads of looping with individual filters, mixing, and triggering. It is so easy to use, I feel guilty because eurorack usually isn’t that easy.

[@TwinCitiesOxygen]

Dig those shades

[@DetroitMicroSound]

Tbh, it's hard to find modular artists that make more than a bunch of cool sounding noises.

[@RileyGein]

You’re not looking hard enough then

[@pbadach1468]

Yeah. You are right.

[@pbadach1468]

Yeah you are right.

[@RileyGein]

If you’re into techno check out Colin Benders, David Castellani, Julia Bondar, Surgeon, Florian Meindel, Karenn

[@DetroitMicroSound]

@@RileyGein Who said "everyone"?

[@Jagilsdorf]

Watch Roland come through with an SP404 eurorack mod. 👀🤞

[@dirtcastle]

4MS Dual Looping Delay is 90% of what you need in a looper. It's easy to sync to a clock. And with some modulation, it can do on/off sound-on-sound looping.

[@ThereminHero]

The MiniFreak is amazing. You will love it.

[@sauce_aux]

A real problem with looping in modular, is that no one has standardized trigger response. I have some that response to the first rising edge, and then some that don’t response until the the falling edge, some that don’t even response until almost 16 pulses in, in an 8ppq sync rate. This is one of the reasons why I got rid of the bitbox 2; even when everything was firing properly, you would stop to edit the loop you just recorded, and then all your clocks/seqs/modulation drift is no longer unified 😢 Ableton or whatever DAW and a midi-cv converter have been the most efficient way for consistent performances for me. I just use midi clips with automation so that way I’m not stuck to computer, rather just using it for multiple specific performance events

[@tweakingtuesday1743]

Thanks Jade, love your honesty, you admit when you change direction or find something different (or return to something) that inspires and influences you. ….and that you take us on that journey with you 🙂

[@unclemick-synths]

I had enough of a MIDI sequencer controlling a bunch of synths in the 90s. It was worse back then with knobless multitimbral synths - so hard to make stuff interesting and exciting. These days I sample most things into the MPC as audio.

[@Decoy303]

@6:26 Okay mom!😂 You know we're going to still do it anyways.

[@seanspartan2023]

I'm having the same problem and now I'm drowning in GAS for the Minifreak... Plus hell yes! You should collab with a manufacturer and release your own module. But a compromise I've come up with is having the Hector and Euroburo in my case. If I need something that I don't have a module for, I can usually find something on one of those that works with what I'm doing. Sometimes even my Disting Mk4 comes in handy in a pinch.

[@wadehathawaymusic]

I've been playing with the looper on the Hector a bit. It's a little finicky but the potential is there.

[@djcuda]

Dawless for life lol

[@lundsweden]

I actually love both DAW and DAWless, DAW is slow to start, but once it's on I find it very fast and productive. But standalone grooveboxes and synths will lead to different results, sometimes better, sometimes worse- but different!

[@sodothehivesonhisleg]

Disting EX does a lot of jobs that other modules dont cover in a v small size, the Looper, polyphonic multi-sample playback (and recording!), polyphonic wavetable synth, are all worth the price of admission. The new modes are very full featured and its easy to save the total state of whatever patch youve built internally as a preset for quick recall for live performances. Worth a look!

[@brares2105]

Expert Sleepers Disting EX Plus has a pretty good looper. Simple and easy to use and only 8hp.

[@eternalism8274]

Which algorithm number? Found it, 7 - Looper, in the manual for Super disting EX plus alpha

[@64Sq]

just get a looper, no need for it to be eurorack

[@jthek2000]

I never had the patience to build an effect only modular case, but I’m happy to see you have.

[@Madmohawkfilms]

I’m going looking at the Modular Effects but aren’t majority of them Digital? Like I love the Euroboro but I want a REAL spring reverb and a old school distortion etc I’ve plenty of effects for my guitars

[@mynmyself]

I know its a bit of a different approach, but I first started using a Korg KP3 to llop my eurorack: you sync it to midi, set the loop lenght, hit rec and it records an exact loop (so its great for sequenced music as it quenatizes everything), and on top of that i had all the KP3 effects to mangle and process both the loops and the incoming live eurorack audio. I have now upgraded to using an IPad with an Expert Sleepers ES9, and now that is perfect. I am running some loopers inside the IPad and from the ES9 I have access to all the individual tracks from the eurorack, I also have a ton of different effects and ways of interacting with the eurorack... And it feels a tad different than just using the system with a laptop running Ableton, the Ipad has a bit more of an instrument interface, I believe. On top of that, it has a million different cool sequencers, actual eurorack apps you can use to send CVs to the hardware system, you can record everything, it has crazy samplers, polysynths, fm synths, etc

[@olexpono]

4ms DLD works great as a looper!

[@Strages_Powers]

did you ever have a patch bay for all your synths?

[@Modrunnermusic]

Nothing wrong with a few rows of eurorack and some good hardware or soft synths. I have some synths, some Eurorack modules and a groovebox/DAW in a box. No need to feel separated in our community

[@_greenleader]

as a keys player you'll prob always be drawn back to the synths

[@City2x]

2hp has a looper as of the time of this video it had been out for a year or 2

[@itchyjazz]

yes! agree on battery power and built in speakers! jupiter xm is super cool. have u checked out the yamaha pss a50?

[@sonicspecter]

The MiniFreak has clock in, clock out, and reset out… this qualifies as semi-modular so you can buy it as a supplement for your Eurorack.

[@GeorgeLocke]

Semi modular? O rly?

[@sonicspecter]

@@GeorgeLocke at least you have three mini jacks on the back for clock triggers. However, everything else would be either audio or Midi, which is not really the workflow you want for your modular synthesizer. Would be great to have a semi-modular polyphonic desktop Synth without keyboard but with cv for all parameters of the mod matrix.

[@GeorgeLocke]

​@@sonicspecter Patchable paraphony is possible, but I don't think full polyphony is ever going to happen except in modular. Unless you're drowning in cash, CV-like control over full polyphony means software. Dreadbox NYX looks like a good parahphonic option. I will say that even though I own 300hp+ of eurorack, I still love VCV Rack. It can be fully polyphonic and modular at the same time. Behind me I've patched up my hardware Pam's to clock the percussion section running in VCV while twiddling synth voices in meat space. Eventually I hope to be able to record stems this way and work them into songs, ideally using MIDI controllers that make it so I don't have to look at the screen. Hybrid setups are probably less hassle than the mess of cords that impelled JAde toward modular, but aside from the computer screen, getting them to play well together is not trivial and probably only practical in the studio. ETA: if you don't care about tempo sync, it's way easier - until recently I was making beatless ambient/noise so the latency sending signals back and forth wasn't a big deal.

[@sonicspecter]

@@GeorgeLocke imagine the MicroFreak as a desktop synth without a keyboard but instead with a large patch bay for full cv-control over the voices and mod-matrix. OK, it is “hybrid” and “6 voice paraphonic”, but it should be possible for a reasonable price…

[@GeorgeLocke]

@@sonicspecter my brain broke and I can't imagine anything. I'll try again tomorrow.

[@FuZZbaLLbee]

Hé jade, yeah it’s true I love your videos about your journey into music and KZbin.

[@DocBolus]

My approach is to have the synths then sample them. Sound design and then track writing, I do most of my writing on 2 grooveboxes playing together, and most of my sound design on..... Random synths and bits of kit.

[@Phazerville]

I like to do looping, too. My ideal setup is a decent Eurorack + Keystep controller, paired with a Korg KP3 or Boss RC-505 for looping. There are probably good modules for doing the same, but a separate dedicated device feels like the most sensible solution!

[@manstuarta9066]

People saying to just get a looper don’t understand the need of having all the tools into the rack without extra cables and power plugs rolling around, as you explained. A dedicated module in the Boss-RC style would be amazing!

[@mandosea]

Why dish the modular for synths if synths can’t loop either?

[@doomsday.tomato]

Poly Hector has a full looper built in, with multi tracks. And you can control it via midi

[@sfiche]

my favorite Eurorack looper is SDS Digital's Reflex LiveLoop. I have both Morphagene and the LiveLoop and use them for different things.

[@VinylWave11]

I’m with you in that too many keyboard synths over 4 octave gets to be a lot fast unless you have a huge space. Personally I am sticking to my MOOG Matriarch and Waldorf Irridium and Korg Minilogue XD as my main hardware synths. I also have several semi modular synths. On my wish list is the Korg ARP 2600M and the Wavestate MK2.

[@rhampton1914]

i love Eurorack but i live on my desktop multi-track recorder...That way i can be free to blend in changes and not being tied down to a BPM for 5 minutes...i love the Abstract approach to electronic music..Love your Vid..Keep up the great work

[@robbrobb5543]

Because the foot pedal ones are so good for guitar we use them.

[@OtherPlanet]

ER-301 can loop, but they’re hard to find

[@SonicVibe]

For me when it comes to actually making music nothing beats the MPC can do song start to finish all in box. yes you can just use Ableton but I hate using a mouse, I need knobs and buttons. And my mpc powers 2 analog synths fx box powered by usb and powers midi controller all with one button push.

[@brauliog7378]

2HP Loop is literaly what. you want. get a few of them.

[@edgarm6017]

The Mannequins “w/“ might be the simple (or extremely complex) looper you’re looking for

[@crnkmnky]

8:28 Just as I made up my mind to type it, she said it back! 🥰 *We love you, Jade!* 😎❤️

[@Rustik1722]

"coked up' Jade vibes are a new cool for the channel .

[@MrNamaikisaru]

I have a Befaco interface so I can plug and play into my modular. That and the 2HP loop might be fun. But there really isn’t a simple 4 track looper in eurorack format. Mylarmelodies uploaded something with modular and a regular guitar looper but you’re stepping away from the everything in one case dream again there.

[@slokling]

I think mylarmelodies has a video about using guitar loopers with eurorack,

[@stev5293]

That white controller behind you is beautiful. omg

[@TheMachinesWon]

Have you tried the lubadh for looping

[@lloydstephens2135]

I have a modular system and plugins for my DAW. Two different ways of achieving the same thing. Either way can make music and sound great. But avoiding the DAW and plugins misses out on great plugins like Massive X, Serum, Diva, and the new Moog Model D.

[@variablenumber2]

Akai Force with modular is a great looping solution. Even has 4 CV out ports.

[@ThesisOfSyn]

Instruo lubadh is a good option. 2 track looper!

[@OMARGREY14]

I’m still tryna get into modular so I gotta save up for that. But thanks for the video, Peace

[@GeorgeLocke]

VCV rack is legit. I own 4 rows of eurorack and still love it.

[@OMARGREY14]

@@GeorgeLocke is it all together or separate?

[@GeorgeLocke]

@@OMARGREY14 I have a 12U studio rack case, why?

[@OMARGREY14]

@@GeorgeLocke nah cus I didn’t know if you had a whole case of synths or separate racks

[@GeorgeLocke]

@@OMARGREY14 well, since no one asked, I have a second 12U rack with a Supernova, XV 3080, some rack effects, an amp, and my audio interface.

[@weave_of_k]

Very good points. I'm now at the same situation. I come to love the synths(Matriarch, REV2 and Juno106) i own and have been running one of them with my Eurorack setup via a module sequencer with midi capabilities. I use the other 2 synths for layering sounds without any connection to my Eurorack. It has opened the doors creativity and songwriting.

[@GeorgeLocke]

Hey Jade, have you looked at the Reflex Live Looper from SDS Digital?

[@drd8974]

this module is the jimmy jam. 1000% bonkers. and it's cool that you can use a footswitch to start/stop. But it's also one of the most complicated module to ever exist. Get ready for 130 page manual in comic sans!

[@JAdeWii_]

I have but can’t find one anywhere!

[@anthonyniedzwiecki33]

1010 bitbox mk2 could be a very powerful looper with some updates or a different firmware. I would love a "1010 Loopbox". I use it now as a looper, but it isn't as intuitive as it could be if using it as a dedicated looping device

[@edumerloph]

Add to your list the ASM Hydrasynth Explorer.

[@DangerAmbrose]

You just need to get a multi-tier keyboard rack for the larger synths.

[@AllThatsGone]

DLD is easy as pie. Reflex Live Loop packs a punch and can get weird.

[@Screenshot1015]

Minifreak is nice but at that price point you could get a hydrasynth explorer or korg opsix and imo those are both vastly superior synths

[@stove6450]

2hp has a Loop module with a few modes on it!

[@eternalism8274]

I would post a comment here, but too busy sorting my patch cables 😑 and planning my next patch cable procurement

[@Nick-kb6jd]

Instruo Lubadh,, looper and more. Just got a killer v2 update too.

[@athena4895]

Heyo, in terms of Eurorack looping, have you tried Instruo Lubadh? It is one of most fascinating loopers out there (in the whole of music gear world, not just eurorack) in my opinion.

[@maddiefletcher4435]

I’ve been using my Assimil8or like a looper amongst other duties. Tried to do the same with a bit box micro and it kept crashing - YMMV

[@wickeddubz]

I like your mood on this one. And glasses

[@johnrichardson3297]

Dawless Jamming… Jade Wii, regarding the dilemma Blush Response has one of the best insights on the subject… Wavetable synths are immense subjectively, like on choosing two of the best of that type… Synths that replicate Modular are the way to go!…

[@ImranAli-uu4vj]

Such nice glasses!

[@LachieMcg]

Seems an mpc would really great with your modular setup and synth…

[@MrCowfood]

Mimeophon - delay but also looper plus keeping it make noise. Glhf

[@AC-ol9lp]

I also like that you like to - "like" - use the word like - "like - (98 times) - so i "like" hit the like button - you like?

[@krimpfugly]

Yes let's make modules lol

[@aikighost]

Maybe we need an octatrack eurorack kit 🤣 Nah Ill just use my Force.

[@F_letc.h]

Have you considered the 4MS STS for looping?

[@tr1co0]

Knew this was coming lol

[@billyjeckel407]

I feel like if you are running only one signal at a into your modular case a conventional stereo looper receiving its stereo mix should function in the way you want it to. Like Montage-> effects case-> looper-> recorder or front of house, etc. Furthermore I think common practice states that you loop the affected signal rather than effecting your loops, if you want to have an ever evolving processing algorithm on your loop then I would suggest having multiple loopers. Example Jupiter->Looper->effects case-> looper->final destination (computer, headphones, etc.) The only thing you might need in addition to the two loopers is a mixer to sum all the signals from your various instruments into the looper, effects, looper signal chain. Hope this is helpful in any way

[@billyjeckel407]

Also maybe try Benn Jordan's suggested combination of a empress euroburo and the poly hector so in theory you could have modular environments nested into modular environments. And I'm sure Jade knows this but it's always a good reminder, practice with simple gear setups to focus on your fundamentals and try to plan out what you want your finished product to sound like so you can have a plan of what kind of gear you need to create it

[@Taeodoestech]

Drambo And you probably already know, but ZOIA is modular

[@InRoB-Music]

It’s the opposite of your latest vids! Don’t put yourself in a small drawer, do whats right for you, but don’t say it’s a straight way ;) i like the synth part more than the eurorack one 😅

[@Lewp77]

awesome ! keep rocking it ! lets do a collaboration , I'm a nerd too !

[@fakshen1973]

I have multiple comments so I will number them. 1. If you're going to make a decent Eurorack looper, it probably should ALSO be something that functions as a master clock as well. 2. Doing everything in Eurorack takes three times as long as it does in a DAW. Everyone has the same budget in TIME. Eurorack is fun for exploration, experimentation. But for composing... you're going to put out less material. It's much less productive than a DAW. The creative trip is a lot more fun though. So you have to account that you're going to be spending more time tweaking settings, changing patches, etc. than making melodies, chords, etc. Different instruments, right? 3. Noise. That big ole synth digital synth with a massive LCD right next to your Eurorack stuck full of unbalanced antennas... I mean cables. Get it away from your digital stuff and possibly on a different circuit breaker. You can buy modules with built in isolation transformers that might help if you develop a hum issue being on a different breaker. 4. Also, your space is dope. Hanging a large decorate sheet on the wall... especially in rented space. Make a video on your space. That works for me.

[@tanksmoonchild]

instruo lubadh

[@Jakker271]

Jade how about using pc to accompany your eurorack? Like a hybrid set up. It could save you some fair change but also it would still be about your modular set up if you wanted it to be. There are definite advantages to adding a computer in the mix.

[@fasterdetail]

2hp loop

[@bertokleine280]

Hi Nice thought’s….. I am a old fuck and dislike modular / euro rack…..from day 1 Don’t and didn’t understand the love for this old tech. Don’t get me wrong I like Wendy Carlos, Brian Eno, etc. Just my two cents…..

[@Madmohawkfilms]

I’m going looking at the Modular Effects but aren’t majority of them Digital? Like I love the Euroboro but I want a REAL spring reverb and a old school distortion etc I’ve plenty of effects for my guitars

[@lorensteele2962]

2hp loop