What I've Gotten Wrong... | Educational Video | Biolayne

[@stevenedmunds2018]

Been watching Layne for over 12 years now. His approach on evaluating data and applying it based on evidence has influence me in how I approach my day job in technical analytics. Can’t say enough great things about his disposition, character, and knowledge sharing.

[@contrabest528]

12 years? Then you remember his metabolic damage bs? Now he pretends like it never happened.

[@gabimoncha]

@@contrabest528 do you have any evidence for this?

[@contrabest528]

@@gabimoncha What evidence? The videos about metabolic damage (his made up bs) are still on this channel and he was selling his program to "fix" it.

[@C0d0ps]

@@contrabest528 If you wouldn’t mind linking it to us that are newer to his channel then? Sounds very difficult to ignore a video that you still have on your channel.

[@contrabest528]

@@C0d0ps Just go to his video section and scroll down until you find videos from 9-10 years ago. They literally have metabolic damage in their title. Here is the first one kzbin.info/www/bejne/h3mrq5yba72Ffc0 A lot of people called him out, but he didn't have any problem ignoring science back then. So it's funny to read comments now about his integrity and character.

[@whereruaaron]

Admitting mistakes and changed opinions? That's not very fitness influencer of you bro Keep being you man, one of the best in the business

[@ericjg1472]

Because he isn't an "influencer" but rather a science based presenter.

[@tor5457]

@@ericjg1472 Woosh. It was sarcasm.

[@RM-jb2bv]

Yea he’s not an ass at all lol

[@JasonMorrisphotocinema]

Takes a lot to admit you’re wrong about BCAAs considering what you said. What a legend Layne!

[@alphacause]

The mark of an intellectually honest person is the degree to which they are willing to change their mind. Dr. Norton has a track record, as he has described here, of being amenable to emerging evidence. Its a refreshing thing to see in the health and fitness space. So often the health and fitness arena can devolve into dogmatic camps that refuse to concede any point to the other side, no matter well argued that point is. Layne's attitude is what we need to see more of. This is why his fan base is growing, even despite the fact that he may demolish many of their cherished beliefs. People who value intellectual honesty know Layne's intentions are noble.

[@DrTomMD]

As an MD expert in metabolic health, I find Dr Layne one of the most both evidence based and practical, comprehendible nutrition PhD’s providing actionable information out there. Period. We need a Christopher Gardner / Layne Norton debate! 🍿 Everyone would be better off for it. Two of the best nutrition PhD’s on earth.

[@Chrome47]

Been following Layne for nearly 10 years and seeing these changes as they’ve happened has always been enlightening. No attachment to an idea, move on and work with new best idea. Has sources and is resilient to people who cry about being too sure of yourself. Layne is one of those guys, and he’s earned it.

[@BasedChadman]

Humility is what separates the knowledgeable from the wise. Appreciate content like this.

[@Shvabicu]

I remember you being wrong about BCAAs way back but admitting mistakes and not being dogmatic is a sign of good character

[@condoriris6286]

More Educational videos through the week will be perfect, especially if they are a little bit long.

[@robertcastro4326]

Yes, I second this! I love these educational videos and I would definitely appreciate if they were a little bit longer as well.

[@ausfastbuy7011]

I spent hundreds of dollars on BCAA supplements when Layne was promoting them because I thought it would help build muscle. I would guess millions maybe hundreds of millions of dollars has been spent on BCAA supplements worldwide... wasted

[@blackprincegt]

He thanks you for lining his pockets though and wishes you a very merry Xmas and a happy new year

[@oneaboveall1922]

I was definitely one of those people that bypassed Lanes vids bc he came off to me as rigid and a "know it all" but after watching this video and seeing that he can change his mind based on new information- I can also change my mind and start consuming more of your vids. No disrespect to your educational qualifications Lane

[@Corrans]

True intelligence is shown if you can change your mind. You rock.

[@TheHaiku2]

I used to think the same about fasted cardio, and since changed my mind, just in terms of effectiveness. However I think there is still a benefit of fasted cardio in that, it can and does create a positive feedback loop for some folks. You're getting up first thing, putting some coffee on the Keurig and as soon as it's done you jump on the treadmill and put a podcast on. Doing that seems to boost overall compliance for some people. Just anecdotal tough.

[@gk5891]

Program compliance almost always trumps the theory. That's what a lot of these people that are so convinced that their way is the only way fail to recognize.

[@nathaliebrunet1896]

Thank you for being so honest, Good Sir! 2 weeks ago, I didn't know you existed. Since then, I've been devouring your videos. What a treat! Thank you so much!

[@JetskiDex]

Wow, that’s very very commendable!! Very impressed 🎉 A standout thing to do 👏

[@TheBunty84]

Really been enjoying the supplement line so far.

[@flexlikeag]

Earning my respect is like you changing your position. Layne you have earned my respect. Thank you for all the valuable time you have given to provide insight to the research that leads you to your position.

[@robinhensley2558]

Been following Dr. Layne for years and he’s the best and we appreciate all you give us!

[@geminierica4077]

Thanks for the info about the LDL where can I read about this further? My husband has high ldl and he wants to get it down but he has all these people saying it doesn't matter (a lot of them are keto or heavy meat eaters).. probably because of old out dated info. But good to know that there's more definitive evidence that he should in fact lower it

[@burtnation1357]

Prob Peter atita some tips lose weight if over weight or obese, don’t be sedentary, have fiber in your diet, don’t eat high saturated fat ,get good sleep

[@marcdaniels9079]

Yeah beware those Keto crazies. There are some really great videos on KZbin re Cholesterol. The one I really like is called How do statins work. Talks very clearly about LDL. Also as mentioned several other important factors: chronic inflammation without this risk is much lower and overall circulatory system health including blood pressure, heart health and level of plaque. I am genetically predisposed to borderline high LDL. My cardiologist did a suite of tests after blood work to see if I needed statins. As he said it’s easy for me to drop you LDL but this isn’t the point. He tested ergométrico, 24 hour ecg, ecocardiogram and very important ultrasound of arteries in the neck. After all this no statins

[@Marx1963]

Dr. Attia digs deep in cholesterol kzbin.info/www/bejne/i4i0pJV4j617i7c

[@donwinston]

Best most effective thing to do is see a doctor and he or she will prescribe a statin. Generic versions are inexpensive. They frigging work. Of course he should also adjust his diet to reduce saturated fat. (polyunsaturated and monounsaturated fat don't raise cholesterol)

[@Marx1963]

@@donwinstoni think lipid panel should be done a few times to get an accurate reading . doctor needs question your diet/lifestyle before meds are prescribed. I ate lots of eggs week prior to lipid test , my total and ldl soared and first thing doc said you need meds !!! No I didn’t need meds my went back down to my normal levels around 180-200 after refraining from eggs for 10 days. ldl dropped as well . Doc was wrong to prescribe meds . Glad I knew better , be your own healthcare advocate. Statins are the most overprescribed medication - I now see why ! PCP are not cholesterol experts in fact most know very little . They go off the 10 year heart risk calculation, that’s about it !

[@mariden7860]

Thank you for this great and honest update. I had a look at Dr. Tinsley paper on time restricted eating and resistance training because I am particularly interested by this subject. It should be noted that in this study the group assigned to TRE was eating on a 4H window and only the days they didn't perform resistance training. QUOTE: "On the 3 days per week that participants performed RT, they were allowed unrestricted food intake. On non-workout days (4days per week), participants were required to consume all calories in any four-hour window between 4 p.m. and midnight..." . As it is not what I was expecting to read I share it for those interested to the details and feasibility of TRE combined to RT on the same day.

[@benlassen9209]

Don't trust this its fake

[@jesmondo5785]

Cha boy coming in strong! Yourself, Mike Isratel, Jordan Faigenbaum & Chad Wesley Smith have been staples for me for nearly 15 years! Videos like this only reinforce that I've followed the right people, cheers!

[@krigabr]

7:35 16 Day intermittent fasting? sheeeesh lol Jokes aside, I think Layne is such an inspiration. Great mindset, knowledge e critical thinking within the health information given. Thanks for sharing with us for all these years. Love from Brazil

[@HerrFinsternis]

🤭 and then stuff your face for 8 days straight.

[@billybob6734h]

Haha but he just said 16 to 8 really quickly so it sounded like 16 day

[@ausmiku]

Great stuff Layne. Your honesty is what keeps me watching your videos.

[@nutritionbyelsa]

my intution tells me Layne, Peter Attia, Andrew Huberman, Rhonda Patrick and a select other few greats are the only ones to actually come out and say "hey, I got this wrong" and have ZERO problem with doing so

[@airplanebuilder8685]

I follow the exact same group you just mentioned.

[@RM-jb2bv]

So what they’re still talking out of their asses.

[@smaug660]

I just want to voice my appreciation for your unflinching scientific stance 👏. It takes guts to aknowledge ones own biases

[@riteskills]

Layne, admire your work. But the harm of HFCS is not in the weight gain, isn't it? You are talking about calorie per calorie, but Lustig confirms that too. It is not what he's saying, though, isn't it? It's the NAFLD, not weight reduction, where the harm per Lustig is, not in the subcu fat. Would you care to comment? Would love to see you both on Peter A. Great work, thanks!

[@Verdad2024]

I believe you've gotten wiser over the years. Being more open and careful. We need to be open to ideas and hypothesis. A randomized control study needs to begin from something

[@fuze59]

Layne taught me how to think about things.

[@austindukes1089]

Dr Layne Norton is a legend for this. Fucking legend

[@airplanebuilder8685]

I hit the subscribed button because of this. Now I know you're for real.

[@wyzasukitan]

Just commenting because Layne has made me a better, less neurotic and more competitive athlete. Optimizing your training and nutrition shouldn’t give you a complex, and as newer studies with more sensational reporting are published, I really appreciate Layne translating them into layman’s speak (especially when some puff-piece with a writer borrowed from the celebrity column does the headline ie ‘EGGs GIVE YOU CANCER AND SHRINK YOUR BALLS SAYS NEW STUDY’)

[@vicchecksitout9537]

Great video as always but the audio was very bad 😢

[@kyle8583]

Good on you Layne, great personal callout and staying true to science.

[@jdabramson]

Thank you Layne

[@scottharris3583]

Yep took a shit ton of bcaa's based on Layne's advice. Thanks bro.

[@sallytaylor4491]

Hello from the UK, Thank your for your content. It is very encouraging to find someone logically reviewing evidence behind the attention grabbing headlines. As a trainer it drives me mad when clients come to me asking about the lastest guru with a book to sell or Daily Mail article. Apologies for the rant. May I ask you if there is any consensus in the studies regarding people encouraging muscle protein synthesis specifically in people over 75 years (my client group). What is your opinion on leucine/bccas and sarcopenia. Getting the higher levels of protein in this group from diet is so difficult. Thanks in advance. Sally

[@MAJALIJU]

Always respectable and a mark of intelligence!

[@jmcd4444]

Outwork Nutrition has the best customer service I have ever come across! The preworkout is pretty good too hahaha. But seriously, highly recommend ordering from there

[@doctorowen]

Super solid. Love the info-dense video description for further reading. Plus, the chapters are neat and would have been helpful had I not been in for the whole thing :)

[@miguelcrupovich]

Great content as always. Thank you Layne

[@NoblyStoic]

Wonderful segment

[@SaamanthaTM]

can you do a video on what happens when you compete and rebound & eat a ton of cals right away / metabolism etc ! thought it would be interesting

[@martinhertz4957]

Little disappointed you left out one of the bigger ones("metabolic syndrome"), but still, respect.

[@Pazuzu-]

Its important to note that fasting by itself increases ldl.

[@blackbeltnutrition7946]

Respect man 🙏

[@FLRProject]

Excellent video, Layne! 💪🏼🔥

[@rustyelder]

Great stuff! Always a pleasure.

[@TCAPRecipes]

Big ups!

[@gman9035]

Life is all about living and learning. Experience makes us all change our minds about things

[@benlassen9209]

Don't trust this its fake

[@justincollins2804]

What about all the evidence against reverse dieting?

[@kristensweder8476]

appreciate this!

[@arth8265]

I'm usually doing early & late intermittent fasting. Early breakfast with fibers and then later meals around 4.00-5.00 PM until evening. I found that there's hard to have enough fiber intake with very small eating windows, especially OMAD, that's why I don't recommend it to people. Fiber is important.

[@misterclean101]

Layne, you said training in the fasted window & training in the fed window in the intermittent fasting bit. Which one is correct?

[@True38]

A man who admits he is wrong at times and corrects himself for the greater good is always worthy of respect. A man who thinks he's never wrong and always is right is not. Salute, Layne.

[@benlassen9209]

Don't trust this its fake

[@True38]

@@benlassen9209 Not True.

[@benlassen9209]

I wasn't responding to your comment sorry someone was leaving comments trying to scam someone but they deleted their comment.

[@True38]

@@benlassen9209 Ah, I see. All good.

[@espenstoro]

Being wrong is a good thing, it means you learned something.

[@benlassen9209]

Don't trust this its fake

[@chewher4171]

Bro, shots fired at Liver King.....Daymn hahahahahahhhaahhahahha.

[@blaine393]

Great video. Is there research on the behavioral impact of fasted cardio on food intake? Do people who are doing fasted cardio eat less? If I do fasted cardio instead of eating first, I do not end up eating more to offset later in the day, and therefore it leads to a reduction of calories. I choose fasted vs non fasted based on my caloric intake goals.

[@foxfox-xx3zk]

You forgot to add the first law of thermodynamics. ΔU=Q−W

[@Greg_Chock]

Love these kind of videos

[@josher3436]

Great video thank you.

[@williamwallaceg2627]

For the algorithm to keep him educated me.

[@thomasdominguez3649]

Thank you

[@eswyatt]

I was in a keto cult myself. I'd call out random strangers for ordering low-fat lattes. I beat myself up for eating "too many" carbs (under 16 net grams/day!) because I refused to consider that maybe the stick of butter I was eating every day was the reason my weight was creeping up! "I'm not pure enough" thinking means you're probably in a cult.

[@Shvabicu]

Extremes are never good

[@Antonio_Serdar]

The keto cult is extremely annoying.

[@nomnomnooma]

Hey layne the volume in this one seemed pretty low I had to raise my volume in my car really high to hear you somewhat enough

[@jonkew4945]

I watched some of the video. Maybe evidence re CHO vs fats vs keto vs fasting applies differently to different population groups with different objectives and needs. Fungs data re role of fasting ketosis (and re talks of fasting predominantly rather than preference of avoid CHO) is relevant to diabetics, the morbidly obese in terms of weight loss. As with Michael Mosely and his 1200 CHO VLCD diet, it seems that they are presenting data on weight loss regimens that seem to be achievable and doable. The question of how to alter diet in those that already are relatively healthy maybe is not the group Fung is particularly relevant too.

[@primalchiropractic]

Appreciate your ability to change your mind, always respectable. Can you comment on the cholesterol studies that show triglyercide/hdl ratios being low is a better indicator then high ldl. And also the new one showing a score of 0 CAC score with high ldl being very low risk. Wanted to know your thoughts?

[@beninbryant455]

Can you do a video on the benefits, and research to support, the use of L-carnitine?

[@JoseMendez-gi3jj]

Always great content!!!

[@JoseMendez-gi3jj]

I didn't even know you were giving any prizes away

[@stellaglodek]

The cholesterol bit is interesting. I have high HDL and okish LDL and cant do anything to bring it down.

[@lukeclaydon6670]

Great stuff

[@joerockhead7246]

thank you.

[@fabianschweitzer]

Do you have a dedicated video on consuming “too many” egg(yolk)s, because it might increase ldl? Seems like there’s some talk about that not being true. It’s been something I have been told for over 20 years, would be significant, if debunked.

[@marcdaniels9079]

Love this guy. One thing extra he GOT wrong is saying GOTTEN 😅. I wish he would review the mad insulin doctor woman. I just her video saying that TOXIC IPHONE BLUE LIGHT (😆) causes a spike in insulin

[@peterdarling1965]

Hi Layne. Can you do an Educational Video on GMO's? What are your thoughts regarding GMO's?

[@nickmontanaro9638]

Awesome.

[@tykjpelk]

Is there anything you suspect you're currently wrong about?

[@RoryEllisMusic]

You can add (thinking the rectus femoris is part of the hamstrings) to the list…

[@Pitbull14218]

John meadows RIP, he spoke that he believed in EAAs, and intra workout nutrition. I do feel I’m in the best shape of my life at 36, although I’ve been the most consistent I’ve ever been, although I do intraworkout shakes, basically soo my drink the entire workout, has sugar, EEAs, creatine, a pump supplement as well. I take a few bigger sips at the start of my workout and then sip it slower or faster based on how far I am in my training along with how much of my shake is left.

[@kadafibawss1902]

A guy who died from heart failure in his 40s is not someone I would take advice from.

[@Pitbull14218]

@@kadafibawss1902 you’re right he has no value when it comes to bodybuilding

[@jordanesquetyson8223]

In 5 years, another Layne vid with same title, main admission......LDL.

[@Chrisnicole_ifbbpro]

This is all really good!

[@StokmanFeilsok]

Now this comes from a person that is TOTALLY uneducated in this. But i was wondering, if you do fasted cardio. "Could" there be a benefit to using the "old" stored fat comapred to the newly fat that you just ingested? I dont like to use this word, because it reminds me of detox(ugh) but I think of this like a "flush". Could there by anything to this? And I am not biased, I do not spoute this, just wondering 😁

[@Sarah-jb3ly]

I’ve watched a lot of your stuff and I can’t find the answer! Cardio before or after resistance training?

[@christinesellers3875]

Looking at calories high fructose, corn syrup might be equivalent to sugar HOWEVER from a metabolic perspective, and the results of fructose are devastating and are a huge contributor to fatty liver disease. Layne, you reach a huge number of people and I plead with you to talk to Dr. Robert Lustig, and do a deep dive on how high fructose corn syrup ruins your metabolic health.

[@ickdon7999]

Dr Lustig is fat. His information is wrong.

[@Michaah]

Did they control for ldl/hdl ratio in the mendelian randomization studies? I skimmed over the one in the description and they didnt seem to do this (correct me if i am wrong please). so what if these polymorphisms thst make LDL more bad are making a bad ldl/hdl ratio more bad?

[@gad3iii532]

On fasted cardio, I understand energy balance, but one thing Layne has stated repeatedly is that your body does not like to turn carbs into fat and research shows only 1-2% is from carbs. OK, so if you do fasted cardio which burns more fat and then eat only carbs and protein, even at maintenance, would this trick the system into more fat burning overriding energy balance? Or would the body force itself to use carbs and protein to make fat? Things that make you go humm.

[@shoulung6203]

In regards to fasted cardio; for those of us using TRE, our eating windows don't really change; I'm about 6 hours between my two meals.

[@benlassen9209]

Don't trust this its fake

[@amishmuscle2536]

Your the man!!!

[@alexanderohanlon8825]

Just out of curiosity what was the ldl measured? Did it account for oxidised levels or just ldl in total, because from what I've read macrophages won't uptake ldl particals unless it's oxidised.

[@gad3iii532]

Awesomeness!

[@adriansokoowski174]

I'm going to sit here and wait fort prof Bart repley :D :D :D

[@moesawad]

What is your thoughts on using Yohimbine or rauwolscine while doing fasted cardio? Derek from MPMD says there is no advantage to fasted cardio, until you use an alpha-2 antagonist. Then the benefits become pronounced.

[@boxerfencer]

Layne, I'm not sold on particle size not being important in heart health. For starters, the fact that studies show more exposure to LDL ends in poorer heart health doesn't disprove particle size being at fault , considering it could just suggest since there's more LDL there's just more large size particles, so of course there'd be a correlation. But a correlation doesn't mean causation. Adding to the confusion, one could have high LDL but not high particle size, so this needs to be fetered out. Besides according to your mentor Dr. Laymon, excess carbs via triglyceride levels pose a higher heart risk that that of high cholesterol, yet this isn't tackled by the medical industry because doctors think Gen Pop don't have self control, and there's no medication to sell patients to lower triglycerides.

[@marcdaniels9079]

There are some really great videos on KZbin re Cholesterol. The one I really like is called How do statins work. Talks very clearly about LDL. Also as mentioned several other important factors: chronic inflammation without this risk is much lower and overall circulatory system health including blood pressure, heart health and level of plaque. I am genetically predisposed to borderline high LDL. My cardiologist did a suite of tests after blood work to see if I needed statins. As he said it’s easy for me to drop you LDL but this isn’t the point. He tested ergométrico, 24 hour ecg, ecocardiogram and very important ultrasound of arteries in the neck. After all this no statins

[@boxerfencer]

@@marcdaniels9079 ones that show statins improve survival by a marginal rate?

[@boxerfencer]

@@marcdaniels9079 just read your added info. That's great. My doc pushed statins on me as a blanket treatment, after the diet plan the attending nutritionist gave me failed miserably. So I did my own diet and after several cholesterol tests to see what intervention worked best. When I eventually figured out for me it was foods high in sat fat that caused my elevation, I was able to bring it down from 400+ range to borderline in a month and a half. Unfortunately my doc got transferred but my new doc's jaw dropped at the results.

[@HerrFinsternis]

Do they understand why ldl is an independent riskfactor? It's good to know it is, but it seems so strange to me that when X occurs and your ldl gets out of whack, you can fix that without dealing with X. Though I guess we see that in other issues, like allergies, where the symptom (unreasonable immuneresponse) is the entire problem. You can't take away the allergy but you can solve the problem when it arrises.

[@jamie5mauser]

Why do we not see athlerosclerosis in our veins? The levels of ldl are the same in our veins compared to our arteries but only the arteries get affected

[@mattchambers4561]

“Darn ethics. Maybe I should take a class from liverking”😂😂 Quick question about HFCS. Those studies showed it was no better or worse than other sugars. What about if compared to fats like butter or olive oil?

[@firagabird]

Then you'd be comparing two completely different macros

[@LukeMosse]

It IS worse but not on a calorie for calorie basis. That's not the issue with fructose. The issue is that it's proven to cause insulin resistance which in turn causes overeating and fatigue, which causes obesity via that route. Layne should know this. The calorie for calorie comparison is irrelevant. That angle is used by sugar companies to defend sugar which is basically causing the obesity epidemic. There was a paper on it in the Royal Society in 2023 it's fully mapped out biochemically.

[@Deciden0w.]

Layne is OG

[@napnap609]

The study he threw up there on BCAA's was that there were no benefits during caloric restriction diets. What about benefits when you're not going out of your way to restrict your calories? Meaning what about BCAA's on a diet where you're eating a regular amount of calories for your activity level, age etc.

[@kathleengempel5814]

Is LDL an indicator of atherosclerotic processes? Does lowering it with statins reduce risk?

[@boxerfencer]

Layne, see if I recall correctly, it's statistically demonstrated that those taking statins only have marginal survival rate over those that haven't taken statins to lower their high LDL. What does this mean? Well, we know statins lower LDL , and so if LDL were truely the culprit to poor heart health we'd expect better results from taking statins but we don't. I think I heard this from your mentor Dr. Laymon. You should really talk to him. Maybe interview him and respectfully bash these discrepancies out. It would make for good content.

[@billycasimir1469]

You’re dope 👊🏾