What I've Gotten Wrong... | Educational Video | Biolayne

[@whereruaaron]

Admitting mistakes and changed opinions? That's not very fitness influencer of you bro Keep being you man, one of the best in the business

[@ericjg1472]

Because he isn't an "influencer" but rather a science based presenter.

[@torstrasburg8289]

@@ericjg1472 Woosh. It was sarcasm.

[@RM-jb2bv]

Yea he’s not an ass at all lol

[@stevenedmunds2018]

Been watching Layne for over 12 years now. His approach on evaluating data and applying it based on evidence has influence me in how I approach my day job in technical analytics. Can’t say enough great things about his disposition, character, and knowledge sharing.

[@contrabest528]

12 years? Then you remember his metabolic damage bs? Now he pretends like it never happened.

[@gabimoncha]

@@contrabest528 do you have any evidence for this?

[@contrabest528]

@@gabimoncha What evidence? The videos about metabolic damage (his made up bs) are still on this channel and he was selling his program to "fix" it.

[@C0d0ps]

@@contrabest528 If you wouldn’t mind linking it to us that are newer to his channel then? Sounds very difficult to ignore a video that you still have on your channel.

[@contrabest528]

@@C0d0ps Just go to his video section and scroll down until you find videos from 9-10 years ago. They literally have metabolic damage in their title. Here is the first one kzbin.info/www/bejne/h3mrq5yba72Ffc0 A lot of people called him out, but he didn't have any problem ignoring science back then. So it's funny to read comments now about his integrity and character.

[@JasonMorrisphotocinema]

Takes a lot to admit you’re wrong about BCAAs considering what you said. What a legend Layne!

[@alphacause]

The mark of an intellectually honest person is the degree to which they are willing to change their mind. Dr. Norton has a track record, as he has described here, of being amenable to emerging evidence. Its a refreshing thing to see in the health and fitness space. So often the health and fitness arena can devolve into dogmatic camps that refuse to concede any point to the other side, no matter well argued that point is. Layne's attitude is what we need to see more of. This is why his fan base is growing, even despite the fact that he may demolish many of their cherished beliefs. People who value intellectual honesty know Layne's intentions are noble.

[@Chrome47]

Been following Layne for nearly 10 years and seeing these changes as they’ve happened has always been enlightening. No attachment to an idea, move on and work with new best idea. Has sources and is resilient to people who cry about being too sure of yourself. Layne is one of those guys, and he’s earned it.

[@BasedChadman]

Humility is what separates the knowledgeable from the wise. Appreciate content like this.

[@DrTomMD]

As an MD expert in metabolic health, I find Dr Layne one of the most both evidence based and practical, comprehendible nutrition PhD’s providing actionable information out there. Period. We need a Christopher Gardner / Layne Norton debate! 🍿 Everyone would be better off for it. Two of the best nutrition PhD’s on earth.

[@Shvabicu]

I remember you being wrong about BCAAs way back but admitting mistakes and not being dogmatic is a sign of good character

[@nathaliebrunet1896]

Thank you for being so honest, Good Sir! 2 weeks ago, I didn't know you existed. Since then, I've been devouring your videos. What a treat! Thank you so much!

[@oneaboveall1922]

I was definitely one of those people that bypassed Lanes vids bc he came off to me as rigid and a "know it all" but after watching this video and seeing that he can change his mind based on new information- I can also change my mind and start consuming more of your vids. No disrespect to your educational qualifications Lane

[@ausfastbuy7011]

I spent hundreds of dollars on BCAA supplements when Layne was promoting them because I thought it would help build muscle. I would guess millions maybe hundreds of millions of dollars has been spent on BCAA supplements worldwide... wasted

[@blackprincegt]

He thanks you for lining his pockets though and wishes you a very merry Xmas and a happy new year

[@TheHaiku2]

I used to think the same about fasted cardio, and since changed my mind, just in terms of effectiveness. However I think there is still a benefit of fasted cardio in that, it can and does create a positive feedback loop for some folks. You're getting up first thing, putting some coffee on the Keurig and as soon as it's done you jump on the treadmill and put a podcast on. Doing that seems to boost overall compliance for some people. Just anecdotal tough.

[@gk5891]

Program compliance almost always trumps the theory. That's what a lot of these people that are so convinced that their way is the only way fail to recognize.

[@condoriris6286]

More Educational videos through the week will be perfect, especially if they are a little bit long.

[@robertcastro4326]

Yes, I second this! I love these educational videos and I would definitely appreciate if they were a little bit longer as well.

[@robinhensley2558]

Been following Dr. Layne for years and he’s the best and we appreciate all you give us!

[@Corrans]

True intelligence is shown if you can change your mind. You rock.

[@Dexduzdiz]

Wow, that’s very very commendable!! Very impressed 🎉 A standout thing to do 👏

[@flexlikeag]

Earning my respect is like you changing your position. Layne you have earned my respect. Thank you for all the valuable time you have given to provide insight to the research that leads you to your position.

[@TheBunty84]

Really been enjoying the supplement line so far.

[@krigabr]

7:35 16 Day intermittent fasting? sheeeesh lol Jokes aside, I think Layne is such an inspiration. Great mindset, knowledge e critical thinking within the health information given. Thanks for sharing with us for all these years. Love from Brazil

[@HerrFinsternis]

🤭 and then stuff your face for 8 days straight.

[@billybob6734h]

Haha but he just said 16 to 8 really quickly so it sounded like 16 day

[@ausmiku]

Great stuff Layne. Your honesty is what keeps me watching your videos.

[@jesmondo5785]

Cha boy coming in strong! Yourself, Mike Isratel, Jordan Faigenbaum & Chad Wesley Smith have been staples for me for nearly 15 years! Videos like this only reinforce that I've followed the right people, cheers!

[@mariden7860]

Thank you for this great and honest update. I had a look at Dr. Tinsley paper on time restricted eating and resistance training because I am particularly interested by this subject. It should be noted that in this study the group assigned to TRE was eating on a 4H window and only the days they didn't perform resistance training. QUOTE: "On the 3 days per week that participants performed RT, they were allowed unrestricted food intake. On non-workout days (4days per week), participants were required to consume all calories in any four-hour window between 4 p.m. and midnight..." . As it is not what I was expecting to read I share it for those interested to the details and feasibility of TRE combined to RT on the same day.

[@benlassen9209]

Don't trust this its fake

[@geminierica4077]

Thanks for the info about the LDL where can I read about this further? My husband has high ldl and he wants to get it down but he has all these people saying it doesn't matter (a lot of them are keto or heavy meat eaters).. probably because of old out dated info. But good to know that there's more definitive evidence that he should in fact lower it

[@burtnation1357]

Prob Peter atita some tips lose weight if over weight or obese, don’t be sedentary, have fiber in your diet, don’t eat high saturated fat ,get good sleep

[@marcdaniels9079]

Yeah beware those Keto crazies. There are some really great videos on KZbin re Cholesterol. The one I really like is called How do statins work. Talks very clearly about LDL. Also as mentioned several other important factors: chronic inflammation without this risk is much lower and overall circulatory system health including blood pressure, heart health and level of plaque. I am genetically predisposed to borderline high LDL. My cardiologist did a suite of tests after blood work to see if I needed statins. As he said it’s easy for me to drop you LDL but this isn’t the point. He tested ergométrico, 24 hour ecg, ecocardiogram and very important ultrasound of arteries in the neck. After all this no statins

[@Marx1963]

Dr. Attia digs deep in cholesterol kzbin.info/www/bejne/i4i0pJV4j617i7c

[@donwinston]

Best most effective thing to do is see a doctor and he or she will prescribe a statin. Generic versions are inexpensive. They frigging work. Of course he should also adjust his diet to reduce saturated fat. (polyunsaturated and monounsaturated fat don't raise cholesterol)

[@Marx1963]

@@donwinstoni think lipid panel should be done a few times to get an accurate reading . doctor needs question your diet/lifestyle before meds are prescribed. I ate lots of eggs week prior to lipid test , my total and ldl soared and first thing doc said you need meds !!! No I didn’t need meds my went back down to my normal levels around 180-200 after refraining from eggs for 10 days. ldl dropped as well . Doc was wrong to prescribe meds . Glad I knew better , be your own healthcare advocate. Statins are the most overprescribed medication - I now see why ! PCP are not cholesterol experts in fact most know very little . They go off the 10 year heart risk calculation, that’s about it !

[@smaug660]

I just want to voice my appreciation for your unflinching scientific stance 👏. It takes guts to aknowledge ones own biases

[@riteskills]

Layne, admire your work. But the harm of HFCS is not in the weight gain, isn't it? You are talking about calorie per calorie, but Lustig confirms that too. It is not what he's saying, though, isn't it? It's the NAFLD, not weight reduction, where the harm per Lustig is, not in the subcu fat. Would you care to comment? Would love to see you both on Peter A. Great work, thanks!

[@True38]

A man who admits he is wrong at times and corrects himself for the greater good is always worthy of respect. A man who thinks he's never wrong and always is right is not. Salute, Layne.

[@benlassen9209]

Don't trust this its fake

[@True38]

@@benlassen9209 Not True.

[@benlassen9209]

I wasn't responding to your comment sorry someone was leaving comments trying to scam someone but they deleted their comment.

[@True38]

@@benlassen9209 Ah, I see. All good.

[@kyle8583]

Good on you Layne, great personal callout and staying true to science.

[@Verdad2024]

I believe you've gotten wiser over the years. Being more open and careful. We need to be open to ideas and hypothesis. A randomized control study needs to begin from something

[@wyzasukitan]

Just commenting because Layne has made me a better, less neurotic and more competitive athlete. Optimizing your training and nutrition shouldn’t give you a complex, and as newer studies with more sensational reporting are published, I really appreciate Layne translating them into layman’s speak (especially when some puff-piece with a writer borrowed from the celebrity column does the headline ie ‘EGGs GIVE YOU CANCER AND SHRINK YOUR BALLS SAYS NEW STUDY’)

[@austindukes1089]

Dr Layne Norton is a legend for this. Fucking legend

[@airplanebuilder8685]

I hit the subscribed button because of this. Now I know you're for real.

[@jmcd4444]

Outwork Nutrition has the best customer service I have ever come across! The preworkout is pretty good too hahaha. But seriously, highly recommend ordering from there

[@doctorowen]

Super solid. Love the info-dense video description for further reading. Plus, the chapters are neat and would have been helpful had I not been in for the whole thing :)

[@eswyatt]

I was in a keto cult myself. I'd call out random strangers for ordering low-fat lattes. I beat myself up for eating "too many" carbs (under 16 net grams/day!) because I refused to consider that maybe the stick of butter I was eating every day was the reason my weight was creeping up! "I'm not pure enough" thinking means you're probably in a cult.

[@Shvabicu]

Extremes are never good

[@Antonio_Serdar]

The keto cult is extremely annoying.

[@wendywertz8828]

HFCS blasts my blood sugar up in any amount ! No thank you I’ll pass !

[@miguelcrupovich]

Great content as always. Thank you Layne

[@MAJALIJU]

Always respectable and a mark of intelligence!

[@christinesellers3875]

Looking at calories high fructose, corn syrup might be equivalent to sugar HOWEVER from a metabolic perspective, and the results of fructose are devastating and are a huge contributor to fatty liver disease. Layne, you reach a huge number of people and I plead with you to talk to Dr. Robert Lustig, and do a deep dive on how high fructose corn syrup ruins your metabolic health.

[@ickdon7999]

Dr Lustig is fat. His information is wrong.

[@fuze59]

Layne taught me how to think about things.

[@espenstoro]

Being wrong is a good thing, it means you learned something.

[@benlassen9209]

Don't trust this its fake

[@FLRProject]

Excellent video, Layne! 💪🏼🔥

[@jdabramson]

Thank you Layne

[@TCAPRecipes]

Big ups!

[@scottharris3583]

Yep took a shit ton of bcaa's based on Layne's advice. Thanks bro.

[@gman9035]

Life is all about living and learning. Experience makes us all change our minds about things

[@benlassen9209]

Don't trust this its fake

[@chewher4171]

Bro, shots fired at Liver King.....Daymn hahahahahahhhaahhahahha.

[@vicchecksitout9537]

Great video as always but the audio was very bad 😢

[@sallytaylor4491]

Hello from the UK, Thank your for your content. It is very encouraging to find someone logically reviewing evidence behind the attention grabbing headlines. As a trainer it drives me mad when clients come to me asking about the lastest guru with a book to sell or Daily Mail article. Apologies for the rant. May I ask you if there is any consensus in the studies regarding people encouraging muscle protein synthesis specifically in people over 75 years (my client group). What is your opinion on leucine/bccas and sarcopenia. Getting the higher levels of protein in this group from diet is so difficult. Thanks in advance. Sally

[@rustyelder]

Great stuff! Always a pleasure.

[@blackbeltnutrition7946]

Respect man 🙏

[@gokukakarot1855]

For the algorithm

[@Pazuzu-]

Its important to note that fasting by itself increases ldl.

[@martinhertz4957]

Little disappointed you left out one of the bigger ones("metabolic syndrome"), but still, respect.

[@napnap609]

The study he threw up there on BCAA's was that there were no benefits during caloric restriction diets. What about benefits when you're not going out of your way to restrict your calories? Meaning what about BCAA's on a diet where you're eating a regular amount of calories for your activity level, age etc.

[@HermeticSuperstars]

Wonderful segment

[@arth8265]

I'm usually doing early & late intermittent fasting. Early breakfast with fibers and then later meals around 4.00-5.00 PM until evening. I found that there's hard to have enough fiber intake with very small eating windows, especially OMAD, that's why I don't recommend it to people. Fiber is important.

[@Greg_Chock]

Love these kind of videos

[@ryanpuryear]

I dont like the explanations I have heard on why fasted cardio does not work. The two reasons and my counterpoints: 1. You eat more after your fasted cardio so calories remain the same. -well not if I am restricting and counting my calories. 2. You do preferentially burn fat over carbs during fasted cardio, but your body then overcompensates by switching to a higher than normal usage of carbs for energy the rest of the day. -what if I am on a Keto diet?

[@hamm0155]

But if you're doing keto, why would it help other than as a way to restrict your calories? If you're eating the same total calories then why would it help? Are you wondering whether you would wind up feeling satisfied on fewer total calories for the week? I am not trying to argue that fasted cardio is bad, just for clarity.

[@dklawiter]

1. fasted cardio burns the same amount of total calories as fed cardio, so if your counting calories and eating the same amount each day, fed cardio one day, and fasted the next, does not matter. 2. burning fat vs carbs, during or after the cardio, doesn't matter, calories are king, your body will burn whichever fuel source you give it and store any extra calories as needed to maintain equilibrium. What you really need to watch for is a subconscious decrease in NEAT. This can throw of your calculations and should be accounted for.

[@cherryl225]

you're overthinking this one, namely point 2. the point is that your energy usage will pan out the same no matter if you do fasted or fed cardio, carb or dietary fat.

[@boxerfencer]

They also say your body compensates after fasted cardio by lowering your involuntary movement the rest of the day, although usually in reference to HIIT. I don't think this true if you're taking fat burning stimulants, and time it.

[@ryanpuryear]

@@hamm0155 Agree, simply increases calorie burn through exercise. The theory is that the exercise will preferentially use fats over carbs or protein.

[@justincollins2804]

What about all the evidence against reverse dieting?

[@boxerfencer]

Layne, see if I recall correctly, it's statistically demonstrated that those taking statins only have marginal survival rate over those that haven't taken statins to lower their high LDL. What does this mean? Well, we know statins lower LDL , and so if LDL were truely the culprit to poor heart health we'd expect better results from taking statins but we don't. I think I heard this from your mentor Dr. Laymon. You should really talk to him. Maybe interview him and respectfully bash these discrepancies out. It would make for good content.

[@codysmith7038]

Dr. Ben Bickman feels differently about you when it comes to sugar. Y’all need to have a KZbin discussion.

[@foxfox-xx3zk]

You forgot to add the first law of thermodynamics. ΔU=Q−W

[@thomasdominguez3649]

Thank you

[@mariopejovic]

I'm not a scientist but I believe in science (having a degree in electrical engineering like me and not believe in science would make me an idiot i guess). If ones opinion do not change when presented with new information, then that person can't say they are fairly intelligent person, let alone say they are smart. but it takes courage to openly admit being wrong about something. kudos for that. and keep bringing us great science facts like you always do!

[@primalchiropractic]

Appreciate your ability to change your mind, always respectable. Can you comment on the cholesterol studies that show triglyercide/hdl ratios being low is a better indicator then high ldl. And also the new one showing a score of 0 CAC score with high ldl being very low risk. Wanted to know your thoughts?

[@SaamanthaTM]

can you do a video on what happens when you compete and rebound & eat a ton of cals right away / metabolism etc ! thought it would be interesting

[@beardumaw24]

Again you need to listen to Prof Ben Bikman probably the world's leading expert on fats and metabolism.

[@JoseMendez-gi3jj]

Always great content!!!

[@JoseMendez-gi3jj]

I didn't even know you were giving any prizes away

[@kristensweder8476]

appreciate this!

[@boxerfencer]

Layne, I'm not sold on particle size not being important in heart health. For starters, the fact that studies show more exposure to LDL ends in poorer heart health doesn't disprove particle size being at fault , considering it could just suggest since there's more LDL there's just more large size particles, so of course there'd be a correlation. But a correlation doesn't mean causation. Adding to the confusion, one could have high LDL but not high particle size, so this needs to be fetered out. Besides according to your mentor Dr. Laymon, excess carbs via triglyceride levels pose a higher heart risk that that of high cholesterol, yet this isn't tackled by the medical industry because doctors think Gen Pop don't have self control, and there's no medication to sell patients to lower triglycerides.

[@marcdaniels9079]

There are some really great videos on KZbin re Cholesterol. The one I really like is called How do statins work. Talks very clearly about LDL. Also as mentioned several other important factors: chronic inflammation without this risk is much lower and overall circulatory system health including blood pressure, heart health and level of plaque. I am genetically predisposed to borderline high LDL. My cardiologist did a suite of tests after blood work to see if I needed statins. As he said it’s easy for me to drop you LDL but this isn’t the point. He tested ergométrico, 24 hour ecg, ecocardiogram and very important ultrasound of arteries in the neck. After all this no statins

[@boxerfencer]

@@marcdaniels9079 ones that show statins improve survival by a marginal rate?

[@boxerfencer]

@@marcdaniels9079 just read your added info. That's great. My doc pushed statins on me as a blanket treatment, after the diet plan the attending nutritionist gave me failed miserably. So I did my own diet and after several cholesterol tests to see what intervention worked best. When I eventually figured out for me it was foods high in sat fat that caused my elevation, I was able to bring it down from 400+ range to borderline in a month and a half. Unfortunately my doc got transferred but my new doc's jaw dropped at the results.

[@blaine393]

Great video. Is there research on the behavioral impact of fasted cardio on food intake? Do people who are doing fasted cardio eat less? If I do fasted cardio instead of eating first, I do not end up eating more to offset later in the day, and therefore it leads to a reduction of calories. I choose fasted vs non fasted based on my caloric intake goals.

[@nickmontanaro9638]

Awesome.

[@jonkew4945]

I watched some of the video. Maybe evidence re CHO vs fats vs keto vs fasting applies differently to different population groups with different objectives and needs. Fungs data re role of fasting ketosis (and re talks of fasting predominantly rather than preference of avoid CHO) is relevant to diabetics, the morbidly obese in terms of weight loss. As with Michael Mosely and his 1200 CHO VLCD diet, it seems that they are presenting data on weight loss regimens that seem to be achievable and doable. The question of how to alter diet in those that already are relatively healthy maybe is not the group Fung is particularly relevant too.

[@danfox8819]

Only four topics? This video needed to be much longer..........

[@slydog7131]

We can safely conclude that in 15 years or less there will be another video on what he got wrong.

[@jordanesquetyson8223]

In 5 years, another Layne vid with same title, main admission......LDL.

[@peterdarling1965]

Hi Layne. Can you do an Educational Video on GMO's? What are your thoughts regarding GMO's?

[@nomnomnooma]

Hey layne the volume in this one seemed pretty low I had to raise my volume in my car really high to hear you somewhat enough

[@dominicmutzhas6002]

Sounds like his pitfall was to make statements based on solely mechanistic evidence

[@user-sd8bz2zr5j]

Every weight loss question gets different wording like this fasted cardio... answer always come to calories in and energy used. One formula. High fructose corn syrup follows same calorie rule for weight loss.. anything processed you might look fine eating in terms of body composition, but has horrible effects internally. Like smoking cigs might make you lose weight.. losing weight healthy. Cigs are healthy then. Some ppl using this same logic for fat loss. Cigs increase cancer risk. High fructose corn syrup/anything highly processed is the same.

[@marcdaniels9079]

Love this guy. One thing extra he GOT wrong is saying GOTTEN 😅. I wish he would review the mad insulin doctor woman. I just her video saying that TOXIC IPHONE BLUE LIGHT (😆) causes a spike in insulin

[@virtuazoso]

Love me some fed cardio

[@joerockhead7246]

thank you.

[@amishmuscle2536]

Your the man!!!

[@josher3436]

Great video thank you.

[@misterclean101]

Layne, you said training in the fasted window & training in the fed window in the intermittent fasting bit. Which one is correct?

[@williamwallaceg2627]

For the algorithm to keep him educated me.

[@gad3iii532]

Awesomeness!

[@fabianschweitzer]

Do you have a dedicated video on consuming “too many” egg(yolk)s, because it might increase ldl? Seems like there’s some talk about that not being true. It’s been something I have been told for over 20 years, would be significant, if debunked.

[@Pitbull14218]

John meadows RIP, he spoke that he believed in EAAs, and intra workout nutrition. I do feel I’m in the best shape of my life at 36, although I’ve been the most consistent I’ve ever been, although I do intraworkout shakes, basically soo my drink the entire workout, has sugar, EEAs, creatine, a pump supplement as well. I take a few bigger sips at the start of my workout and then sip it slower or faster based on how far I am in my training along with how much of my shake is left.

[@kadafibawss1902]

A guy who died from heart failure in his 40s is not someone I would take advice from.

[@Pitbull14218]

@@kadafibawss1902 you’re right he has no value when it comes to bodybuilding

[@blainebowling3303]

FTA

[@nutritionbyelsa]

my intution tells me Layne, Peter Attia, Andrew Huberman, Rhonda Patrick and a select other few greats are the only ones to actually come out and say "hey, I got this wrong" and have ZERO problem with doing so

[@airplanebuilder8685]

I follow the exact same group you just mentioned.

[@RM-jb2bv]

So what they’re still talking out of their asses.

[@Chrisnicole_ifbbpro]

This is all really good!

[@beninbryant455]

Can you do a video on the benefits, and research to support, the use of L-carnitine?

[@shoulung6203]

In regards to fasted cardio; for those of us using TRE, our eating windows don't really change; I'm about 6 hours between my two meals.

[@benlassen9209]

Don't trust this its fake

[@tykjpelk]

Is there anything you suspect you're currently wrong about?

[@lukeclaydon6670]

Great stuff

[@Deciden0w.]

Layne is OG

[@fla8731]

algo

[@stellaglodek]

The cholesterol bit is interesting. I have high HDL and okish LDL and cant do anything to bring it down.