[What-If 14] Goku Black (Super Saiyan 4) VS Vegeta (Super Saiyan God Evolution).

After the long wait it's finally here! I recommend you watch [What-If] #7 - Future Gohan VS Goku Black before this, as this is a direct continuation of it. I am one person making these animations, feel free to support me on Patreon: / hyourinjutsu
*DISCLAIMER: I do NOT own any of the sprites or music used in this video, all credit goes to their respective owners.*
~~- Credits: -~~
~Artists~
DBSpriteFight - Ultra-Detailed SSGE Vegeta and SSJ4 Goku Black portrait, SSGE Vegeta template.
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Balthazar321 - Vegeta Z2 and Goku Black Z2 sprites and portraits.
www.deviantart.com/balthazar321
Isair-Dragneel - Various SSJ4 Goku Black sprites.
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Rct29 - SSJ4 Goku sprites.
www.deviantart.com/rct29
DivineSprites - Baby Vegeta, other various sprites.
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MPadillaTheSpriter - Many Goku Black, and many other portraits and sprites.
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ZeroCalories - Various blast and destruction VFX.
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EntityHin - Goku Black sprite.
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Deviantarter1236 - Various sprite edits.
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~Music~
Dragon Ball Z Budokai 3 OST HD Collection - Goku's Demise. 00:00 - 00:54
Dragon Ball Super - Unwinnable Battle. 01:09 - 01:49
Dragon Ball Z: Dokkan Battle - Cooler's Theme. 01:50 - 03:08
Jojo's Bizarre Adventure: All Star Battle - Dio Brando's Theme. 03:18 - 04:45
Dragon Ball Z: Dokkan Battle - Future Gohan's Theme. 04:46 - 07:25
Kill La Kill - goriLLAjaL. 07:39 - 09:35
Dragon Ball Z: Dokkan Battle - Goku Black Transformation Theme. 09:38 - 12:40
Dragon Ball Z: Dokkan Battle - Kefla Transformation Theme. 13:42 - 15:05
Dragon Ball Z: Dokkan Battle - Smoke Shenron Summon. 15:22 - 16:56
Fire Emblem Awakening - "Don't Speak Her Name!" 17:00 - 17:25
JoJo's Bizarre Adventure: Stardust Crusaders - Final Battle. 17:31 - 18:10

[@Hyourinjutsu]

Hey guys, I recommend you watch [What-If] #7 - Future Gohan VS Goku Black before this, as this is a direct continuation of it. Feel free to support my content on my Patreon Page: www.patreon.com/hyourinjutsu ! I am one person making these, even the slightest of support will contribute big time! Thank you and enjoy the animation!

[@mewtwobestpower2645]

Oh we enjoy it

[@TasteMyBlade0]

What If - 7, 9, and 14 are all connected. I wonder whats next for Goku Black

[@GokuSolosInfinitely]

damn boi u doing better than ui fights without ui

[@dmackinteambreezy9974]

I’m so glad I waited for this 🤦🏾‍♂️

[@ultimatex395]

So the timeline as I see it is this: what if #7, what if #14 then what if #9

[@drunkenskunkproductionsdsp8094]

Goku Black when he enters a new timeline: *I am once again asking for your zenkai support.*

[@eliasfarias842]

haki

[@vatoluv]

Why do u care

[@RAAAHUM]

@@vatoluv ?

[@damianbeasley3620]

Yol Riin Lask its quite original

[@MrAdy-sh4nd]

@Yol Riin Lask It seems pretty original to me

[@ziqazli3977]

basically, this goku black came from a timeline where goku was actually mentally competent enough to remember to bring the mafuba seal

[@rairai3922]

Goku really did bless us with a good series by being smart this time around.

[@Pogbirb]

So Goku being smart actually fucked up timelines.

[@CodyMe]

He didn't forget it, Roshi forgot to give it to him. Goku had just learned it.

[@chaos_blue1089]

"OK LET'S G-" "Kakarot, double check if we have everything ready first."

[@reploidboy2005]

Can you explain me more about it...I do not understand what you just sayed, and thank you...

[@VegVariety]

This is what the Goku Black arc should’ve been, going through all these timelines, a way to make GT canon, a way to introduce new forms, new versions of characters. Genius

[@theneighborsdog5625]

Indeed. Toei once again drops the ball completely.

[@michaelmorbillionmorbius3596]

We’re still dragging GT into everything I see.

[@prospeedorginal5371]

@@michaelmorbillionmorbius3596 D-riding super I see

[@michaelmorbillionmorbius3596]

@@prospeedorginal5371 I acc hate Super and consider it inferior to Z, but srsly no way it is coming back. Leave it for the games.

[@Familyguyfunnymoments_]

@@prospeedorginal5371 he still has a point, we don't have to always shoehorn GT into everything

[@lonk9183]

12:48 Hyourinjutsu is a genius. By leaving the events prior to this fight ambiguous to the viewer, we can imagine what's going through Vegeta's head right before he starts his monologue. I like to imagine that it took quite a bit of convincing from Goku’s side in order to get Vegeta on board with ascending to god (rather than how events went in the movie). So whenever Black tells him he can’t win, he flashes back to that conversation he had with Goku. Goku putting his faith in one of his past enemies - someone who basically turned cities of his home to glass - to defend the place they now both live. I feel like this would definitely be enough of an emotional nudge to usher Vegeta into ascended God form. Either that or Hyourinjutsu just wanted some flare to add to the battle. Either/or is a win/win for me!

[@humanman9920]

It was pretty much like anime . He did say a couple of things more like they both worked hard for it and black stole goku's fruits of training Basically it was " YOU FILTHY BODY SNATCHER ! "

[@user-vs9ds3dc2y]

English moment

[@shadowsnake5133]

I think you've missed some details that imply he's not only more cooperative than ours, but outright stronger as well. Let's start with the obvious, he's using techniques he shouldn't have access to, like hellzone grenade and those surprise ki blasts from the ground, piccolo and Goku moves. Not only that, but he and Goku were fighting beerus in the flashbacks, something that doesn't happen in either version of that fight in the original timeline. This Vegeta therefore is less arrogant, and willing to accept help... But then why didn't they use Goku for the ritual? And why wasn't he in ssj3 fighting beerus. Call it a hunch, but given he has more training partners due to cooperating with other's and the fact Goku was on earth, there's a chance this Vegeta is outright stronger than that goku, and even the original timeline Goku by this point in the story. I mean he was already being debatably stronger in the og timeline with less, so why wouldn't this Vegeta be stronger than that one?

[@MalikM-VGM-Rand]

So basically, Goku Black is grinding EXP to fight the boss he's stuck at.

[@Dunkeruu]

Well, pretty much

[@sms_mario]

Relatable

[@portalx0096]

a shit ton of EXP, he even got a 2x EXP buff activated, I didn't thought it was P2W smh

[@enthuast3370]

We've all been there at one point in our life, only to find out you overleveled and can kill the final boss in 1-3 hit..

[@KaruSnep]

He's doing all the sidequests

[@asuna1660]

Goku black: “you should’ve went for the head”

[@redxd7108]

Bruh that reference was on point

[@divineshrek3307]

I hate how good that was.

[@Drippycowboah15]

Underrated comment

[@pog5087]

Oh he got to it first I was just about to Type that

[@LavaCreeperPeople]

this is random but is the dragon ball fandom good, bad, or something in between? im from the roblox fanbase but i like to visit other fanbases like this one

[@kaienjin5468]

The writers at Dragon Ball, *HIRE THIS MAN!!!*

[@ultrachadstinctgoku7579]

Only toriyama writes it man. Oh yea i forgot toyotaro but he can sometimes make it shit Edit 11/02/21: Looking back over this comment a year later, I can see where 6ou are coming from. These people however are only fan fiction writers. Since they dont necessarily have rules limiting them on what they can or cant add, they can do whatever they want. They tend to always have some flaw. I will admit I've never been this intrigued by anything dragon ball in a while. Since broly at least. Dragon ball deliverance was heat. I always appreciate the offical one though even if it's hot buns.

[@nozomitojo9879]

Looks ar Super dragon ball heroes

[@fazewalmart387]

@@ultrachadstinctgoku7579 not true

[@ultrachadstinctgoku7579]

@@fazewalmart387 oh yea. Toyotaro

[@mr.bannana9048]

Why?

[@dead149]

If only Akira Toriyama can do Vegeta justice like this

[@raphaelb5237]

Toyotaro is leading now

[@somsakknownguy1174]

@@raphaelb5237 actually Toriyama still did, with some ideas from Toyotaro.

[@EncoreMP4]

Yea lol

[@reiisonfireAE]

Yes

[@misterboxhead3045]

He did

[@vibeguru]

Imagine Goku black telling the canon Vegeta this: Goku black: “Oh Vegeta? In another timeline, you kicked my ass. But you won’t be doing the same to me this time.” Vegeta: “Did my other self at least did it really cool?” Goku black: “...*sigh* Yes.” Vegeta: “I regret nothing if I die, Kakarot.”

[@friendly7724]

HE ALREADY KICKED THE HELL OUTA HIM HE DOSENT NEED TO DO THAT AGAIN

[@antonisgoulas8507]

Lol

[@valentds]

gb: you jobbed vegeta, you jobbed

[@vlitragaia5969]

Black could shatter Vegeta's pride and say "You won because I limited myself to give you a fair chance*

[@I.K.Slash.]

Goku Black is the type of guy to use Z capsules to get his health back in Xenoverse 2

[@josukehigashikata9020]

Big B R U H moment

[@MiguelPBlueFox]

And then when you lose he call you noob

[@darktails4093]

This is technically the truth

[@klowdz7936]

lmao

[@RamdozaCh]

imagine not using regen capsules tho

[@Medillion]

I find it funny how recently in FighterZ Black says that he finds Super Saiyan 4 primitive and that he would never go to the lengths of reaching that form himself. As always, amazing work!

[@BlackAce5ds]

The near death experience must have changed him and take on a much more pragmatic mindset.

[@8bits143]

After having his ally sealed away and almost getting merc'd by 3 people at once, he realized that unless he lowered his standards, he was doomed to fail

[@hainguyenthanh8601]

It been year but now in dragon ball heroes he have a tail

[@sylasexd]

@@hainguyenthanh8601 but still not Super Saiyan 4.

[@Subpar1O1]

He finds the Fusion Dance repulsive according to FighterZ as well

[@hihi-nm3uy]

6:03 vegeta's day at the masseuse "hm, cant feel it" "okay, thats not bad" 6:05 "OOOOOHHH SHIIIT"

[@user-vs9ds3dc2y]

He tanked that 💀

[@hypemynizzle]

This man Black is really trying to speedrun to SSGSS4

[@emperor_ivan]

SSJGSSJ4 UI KKx20 Ultimate Mastered Mega Saiyan!

[@error_4x2c09]

AF

[@prismssj8532]

Masstered Ultra Instinct Super Saiyan Rosé 4 Evolution Kaioken x 20

[@rashodhustle9718]

Lol now I think about that what Goku black did in evil Goku vs Goku black by theredheadhenry lol

[@christopherbravo1813]

@UnderCoverHunter neither was Super Saiyan God until the writers introduced it XD

[@Lupo333x]

A god pretending to be a saiyan and a saiyan pretending to be a god. The irony.

[@reagenlionel]

And they make very convincing performance. Goku Black always seemed to really be getting into the saiyan mannerisms. He always seemed a lot more saiyan like than other saiyans we've seen. While Vegetas bravado always seemed through the roof, where since he attained the likes of godhood he's been more refined with it like displayed here.

[@yeetnessthegreater1298]

@@reagenlionel in the manga yes goku black has. Where in the anime you're wrong.

[@abeelsmw]

Well, Goku Black was actually still learning, and he robbed a body from a Goku that didn’t had zenkais anymore, which made Goku Black learn a lot of the Saiyans and always keeping that in mind, since Goku and Vegeta were born like that, they didn’t went to know more about their races so, let’s say Goku Black went for the easy way here since he just had to learn and almost die and that’s how he got stronger, Goku and Vegeta can go the same way without zenkais tho

[@geezymoney3729]

That's the first thing I thought of when I heard this battle was going to happen.

[@blankblank1257]

Not really pretending to be a Saiyan he is one and Vegeta is not a god he just has the ability to use a form that can combat gods, kaioken could be used as an example.

[@leirbag1595]

Kind of funny to keep in mind that when Black first throws that Ki Blast at Vegeta, his life is going to end in less than an hour from then on.

[@HeroicZ31]

Oh my God you're right lmao

[@heitoraubinzanettimion3426]

''I'll be back'' - Goku Black 1 hour before death

[@konrad94886]

i love the concept of goku black existing and going through timelines battling over and over, he could be now considered a phenomenon of time

[@elcrakcultraporxchara3260]

Goku xeno vs black when?

[@goatgeta6549]

I think they used this plot in SDBH too

[@elcrakcultraporxchara3260]

@@goatgeta6549 it was likely being used by fuu (explains the time breaker mask) so not really.

[@alejandroliceta1361]

@@elcrakcultraporxchara3260 ya hay

[@elcrakcultraporxchara3260]

@@alejandroliceta1361 que?

[@jibini7216]

The fact that this all leads into Baby and Black vs Ssj4 Broly is amazing

[@bryanfisher1788]

Actually.... It's after that fight soooooo....... BROLY SSJ5 ?! IS IT POSSIBLE????

[@konjaegu7543]

Bryan Fisher You probably should’ve finished the video before you said that

[@bryanfisher1788]

@@konjaegu7543 I did, and goku black said he came back to that specific timeline "again"

[@konjaegu7543]

Bryan Fisher Because he was observing that timeline to get a better understanding of the saiyan body. He didn’t fight anyone during that visit.

[@bryanfisher1788]

@@konjaegu7543 And also post said it's prequel to *one* fight.... Ouch my hopes... And thx for the explaination

[@nj2063]

Black: "You can't even fathom my power." Vegeta: **Begins to roughly fathom his power**

[@ShahidKarim-rz2ep]

Goku black.exe has stopped working

[@drunkenskunkproductionsdsp8094]

Goku Black: *Visible Frustration*

[@creativename1673]

I like to think that Vegeta from this timeline got, for the lack of a better word, "inspired" by Black going Rose for those few seconds at the end, letting him know that an SSJ + SSG combination is possible, and he eventually reached Blue on his own. I mean come on, he even gets a glimpse of it during the fight itself!

[@gabrielcote8211]

Golden Frieza about to get clobbered by an early Blue Evolved Vegeta. And whatever the Zamasu of this timeline decides to do, I imagine Vegeta will be pretty quick to put him down.

[@juliane.mfarias9285]

@@gabrielcote8211 Black Vegeta?

[@gabrielcote8211]

@@juliane.mfarias9285 If Vegeta stays ahead of his Goku, likely yeah. I just imagine Vegeta seeing a doppleganger in the same attire as the Goku one attacking him, and pulverizing him on the spot.

[@juliane.mfarias9285]

@@gabrielcote8211 Imagine: Future Bulma died and the last thing she saw was her beloved husband's face. And Trunks saw it happen and had to live the post apocaliptic future against someone looking just like his father.

[@gabrielcote8211]

@@juliane.mfarias9285 Woo boy. Imagine Goku's rage upon hearing of Goten and Chi-Chi's demise, but applied on a Vegeta who knows the Evolved state. Vegeta Black is about to die horribly.

[@cameronsorrell5655]

I just realized the tail is constantly in motion which is so cool.

[@theawkwardytchannel7572]

Goku Black: " My ally was defeated because he was weak. " *Goku Black: You're Weak.* *Zamasu: I am you.*

[@youtubebffr]

He was basically talking about hisself

[@jayvapor6289]

I know that vid, nice one

[@lordprime25]

Perhaps he was so disappointed that he no longer considered him another him

[@fatpurp4041]

its the same feeling when I wanna punch myself in the past for being stupidly dumb

[@fuckingking6796]

@@fatpurp4041 yeah

[@theleftasscheek3380]

My Favorite thing about these animations is that they take every application of ki into account like barriars, physical constructs, and telekinesis

[@dragonsuper6195]

I was particularly ecstatic to learn that old school dragon ball techniques were reused

[@theleftasscheek3380]

@DP91 I always assumed it was too make characters like frieza and the androids look special by making them the only characters who can use ki in any ways besides blasting and flying.

[@AlteredNova04]

The ki weapons were particularly cool, makes the fight a lot more interesting than the non-stop beam struggles or the boring 'trading normal punches really fast' we usually see. I particularly liked how the rapid-fire teleporting clashes was only used once, that usually gets really overused in these kinds of animations.

[@asparrow9876]

@@AlteredNova04 I agree. The shape of every weapon gives specific advantages that could be expanded a lot on. Scythes having bigger reach, Kamas and chains for boomerang strikes, Ki swords, they were all so badass.

[@SonnyFRST]

There's no room for pragmatism and tactical moves in Shonen. (Otherwise Piccolo, Krill and Tenchinan would still be relevant)

[@D_Cyberpunk]

I do love this version of Goku Black, being able to create more solid weapons using Super Saiyan 4's amazing ki control.

[@gerardoramirezaldape]

Last time he took this long to update a video, it was because he was working on a movie I'll wait then

[@exiegelastweekgamer1571]

So, Goku Black's powers include: -Ki Manipulation -Ki Decoy -Healing -Super Saiyan (Mortal Route) -Super Saiyan (Divine Route) -Kaioken -"British Accent" Did I miss anything?

[@JoeFanik]

You missed Zenkai Boosts

[@Devastator21]

@@JoeFanik that's normal saiyan biology

[@hewo1344]

Nope, all of that sounds about right 👍

[@happyboss2940]

Wait Divine route means the Super Saiyan God Rosé, right?

[@llama64ligit10]

Don't know if this counts but Time Travel via Time Ring

[@mistman_161]

So, this was a sequel to the "Future Gohan vs Goku Black" fight and a prequel to the "Goku Black and Baby Vegeta vs Broly" fight SICK!

[@bryanfisher1788]

I think it's actually after the goku gt fight... Because he said: something this timeline "again" something I might be wrong though.... If not Broly ssj5???

[@KaiSC]

he says hes back in the same timeline, so its not a prequel if hes been there once

[@colonelslanders3955]

@@KaiSC No, he came there before to observe how to become a Super Saiyan 4. That was before the fight with Broly.

[@lunarSoul0]

I know an amazing way to connect everything and maybe a real reason to use the Xeno characters

[@bryanfisher1788]

@@colonelslanders3955 Nope he got the golden great Ape idea from broly, even mentionned that he came back to that timeline in the after credit

[@Sternenherz127]

Its interesting that Vegeta manages to patiently wait for Black to explain him all this stuff.

[@CGPTrainer]

When ya think about it? Hyourinjutsu made Goku Black feel more like Goku Black than the Anime did That is worthy of praise

[@concept5631]

Indeed

[@sketchydude8431]

Ok, that Ki Chain Scythe is the single most creative Dragonball move I've seen in a while.

[@amaannaqvi8417]

reminded me of Axl from Guilty Gear when I saw it

[@jonathacirilo5745]

the gohan and piccolo dual move was as good or even better, but yeah.

[@sirname_2163]

i can only read key chain

[@brandynleftrict3617]

Vegeta: "I told you, didn't I, that I would cut off your tail?" Black: "...You should've gone for the hand!"

[@Alex-qp8lr]

Is this a thanos' reference?

[@Ilostmyaccsonice]

@@Alex-qp8lr Ikr

[@fuckeverybodycom]

My favorite line

[@r0bo329]

YUH THAT WAS MY EXACT THOUGHT WHEN THAT HAPPENED XD

[@demoknight.]

Am I the only one who realised that this *What If #14* was "leaked" in his video *What If Universe - Official Power Scaling* THAT CAME OUT 7 MONTHS AGO?!?!?!

[@ajcola97]

Just a little tid bit I liked in the beginning. When Goku Black launches the two cars and Vegeta catches them and saves the people in them, really shows how much his character has grown. He may not be the Prince or Possible King of Planet Vegeta anymore. But it shows he's definitely found a planet he sees that's worth ruling as the Prince of, albeit us weaklings earthlings can be seen as to him sometimes. It's a nice detail I noticed that made me go "Vegeta kick this poser's ass and SHOW HIM who exactly he's testing the patience of!"

[@Salty-Josh]

Hyourinjutsu is a legend making all these hyped fights and having obvious power scaling and badass music i really hope this channel wil go on for many years it is a great channel. Respect Hyourinjutsu

[@NoU-tt9nl]

You mean the dokkan music :)

[@Karma-ji6ud]

13:56 Love how he, for a split second, tapped into a small portion of super saiyan blue. Just shows how this power is bordering onto blue

[@aleidacueto520]

7:32 ssjr

[@cesarchavez922]

@@aleidacueto520 I also notice that. This guy is a genius when is sprite animations.

[@invincible4u]

@@cesarchavez922 yep

[@asurabg7052]

You actually see Black turing UI for a brief second at the end

[@scarzandy436]

@@asurabg7052 ultra ego should be coming too

[@nurwsama]

Why only top clothes getting destroyed. I'm sure if all clothes get destroyed they will get double power up.

[@DarkExplosion]

Giggity

[@bluephenix1019]

Thats a team four star référence

[@iSTEFIXi]

Because zeno is still a child

[@plankton1700]

Good point

[@demoknight.]

Oh I cannot wait to fix you! Gohanverse reference

[@anidiot4992]

[Goku Black]: *Goes SSJ4* [Vegeta]: "Such power pales in comparison." [Vegeta 10 seconds later]: *Clapped*

[@sauciine]

Probably talking about the transformations themselves but it's still hella hilarious.

[@humanman9920]

Vegeta : But .. But the multiplier! Goku black : Zenkai boost go brrrr

[@leirbag1595]

Classic Vegeta

[@JoeFanik]

@@humanman9920 ssj4 is a limit breaker, not a multiplier

[@legacytag]

I still find it interesting that Heroes ended up exploring Goku Black tapping into the true power of Saiyan Biology like how you did. Though I do think you've been handling it a lot better so far. I am...Unendingly curious what the next What-if featuring your Goku Black would be, though if I were to through out a guess: Goku Black & Baby Vegeta V.S. Xeno Goku & Xeno Vegeta (Mutated SSJRKK Baby Vegetto Black vs SFPSJ4LB Vegetto/Gogetta)

[@themaskedcrusader4546]

it's going to be baby vegito black vs beerus

[@Doof3nz]

Vegeta: I told you..you'd die for that Goku Black: You should've...you should've gone for the hand

[@tokkuyasu]

Stolen

[@vexversaa239]

》INFERNØIGNIS《 And nobody cares

[@yondelamanchidi9403]

》INFERNØIGNIS《 ACTING LIKE IT’S THEIR FAULT

[@dragonmaster2453]

》INFERNØIGNIS《 so is yours

[@kevo5133]

Lol that was exactly what I thought of when I realized Black was just gonna leave

[@salamanderstudios5894]

The stories you've painted, giving Vegeta a much-needed win and improving upon a very unexplored character in Goku black. Creating suspense for the next episode, all the while giving an earth-shattering fight that leaves heaven breathless, this was a masterpiece in the truest sense of the word.

[@RamdozaCh]

Salamander Studios I wonder if he’ll go back to this timeline

[@saltytsunami4389]

I really hope they bring back golden cell in some way

[@justanautomaton]

@@saltytsunami4389 they already did. Did you not see episode 13?

[@Bluesit32]

He didn't win. Black got exactly what he wanted.

[@creativename1673]

@@Bluesit32 Black achieved his goal, that's true, but he did that by losing the fight. Vegeta would have probably killed him right there if he hadn't retreated.

[@ShwappaJ]

I love how at 6:03 Vegeta thinks he can turn his back and be absolutely unharmed. Then Zamasu goes Kaioken at 6:05 and all of a sudden it's a problem. Prideful punk gets a wake-up call.

[@hihi-nm3uy]

im just SO happy this worked out for vegeta in the end it's nice to see someone take a W from black, save their world, and yet, not rob us of the awesome character hyourjin built over these years

[@bingo5661]

13:57 Glimpse of Super Saiyan Blue Evolution. I’m noticing this after watching this video 4 times. I swear the level of detail put into this animation is insane

[@sirname_2163]

goku black speedrunning ssj4 is making vegeta speedrun ssbe

[@TasteMyBlade0]

I think that was just Super Saiyan Blue, Evolution has a rich dark blue color.

[@milesl-worth3300]

That wasn’t blue evolution, just a small glimpse of blue. I love that detail

[@Salty-Josh]

I saw it too

[@kamenogacha8733]

I think it's ssj BLUE only!

[@rodrickgoldberg2324]

I think it’s safe to say Hyourinjutsu’s Goku Black is an absolute genius. He is constantly flying under everyone’s radar, learning new skills and transformations, growing stronger. All while strategically time hopping across the multiverse just to find good sparring partners. This guy is a psychopathic chess master!

[@Tvvelvve]

Underrated comment You're absolutely right

[@dj-blue-j3214]

This is why I like Black more than Merge Zamasu, this guy insane and so clever what he’s doing.

[@malcolmroache3854]

This would actually be a good storyline in Super if its executed right. Obviously Black is gone but they could do this with the first time traveler they talked about in the series.

[@bladysante2903]

Honestly what's the Endgame. This Goku black is possibly the most dangerous villain in any Db fan-story ever. Plus the script and the details are just surperb!!!

[@totallyoriginalusername1791]

@@bladysante2903 to be honest I can't imagine anybody who can beat him at this point.....

[@michaelwestmoreland2530]

GOD the detail I'm the actual fight moves. Using SPRITES, somehow BEATING the animation. Truly. Bravo. "But this only works if I endure a great stress in battle." That was thrown in SO last minute. *laughs* One sentence away from "Holy Shit, GB really figured out a game breaking hack. Damage YOURSELF for Zenkai." Although...that IS what body builders do, so...not REALLY so far fetched... OH MY GOD VEGETA'S HAIR. That was the sickest, most subtle artistic touch I've ever seen in any DBZ, official OR fan made. Alright. Jesus. You win. I'll Patreon. Would have proffered to donate here, but that's...that's just art.

[@Saiyan1229]

This was so badass. Shows why the concept of goku black is such a great idea and has so much potential

[@videontekuro9399]

This animation did Vegeta more justice than the series itself. He actually won for once!

[@xGullrieaTx]

Big Factz id love to see more of that Vegeta 💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾

[@juneauman9929]

But he still made black way stronger by doing exactly what black wanted him to do, almost just like the manga

[@WickedBot]

Its more like a draw

[@rashodhustle9718]

So how strong was baby Vegeta then if he kept up with ssjg black and ssj4 broly to an extent

[@he6671]

@@rashodhustle9718 baby vegeta is stronger than adult gt goku ss3 and weaker than this vegeta in ssge

[@kuminanida333]

This battle was animated so good. You can see why it took so long. Not only does the animation have different features and qualities to it but it's actually developing into a really good story. This is awesome, I will be here for the next one

[@steverogers8574]

Even after 2 years this is still one of my favorite animations.

[@ethandevine6194]

What I like about your ideas and writing is that it makes super saiyan 4 more interesting. The way you talk and think about the transformation doesn't make it sound like just another transformation but what the super saiyan form was meant to truly be. You make it seem like the super saiyan 4 form is the actual TRUEST form of SUPER SAIYAN.

[@AdilLastName]

Dude, listen, I can't even handle these episodes anymore, they're that good. The script, the direction, the animation, everything is so spot-on and incredible. You're too underrated, man, you genuinely deserve millions of subs for the quality you put out! Love from Pakistan (just so you know you have fans all over the world)!

[@KKAnims]

i second the shit out of this comment

[@demoknight.]

Am I the only one who realised that this *What If #14* was "leaked" in his video *What If Universe - Official Power Scaling* THAT CAME OUT 7 MONTHS AGO?!?!?!

[@outrrose]

@@demoknight. Yeah, he stated that the animation will come after. Those who watched the power scaling video already KNEW he was gonna make this animation.

[@KKAnims]

@@demoknight. I mean it was already planned and announced back then, it's not like he keeps the projects he's working on a secret. It's even revealed in this video what the next what-if battle is going to be, which is Xeno Vegito SSJ4 VS Gogeta SSB i believe.

[@jeanroberto5974]

That ending is perfect, and really explains why he know all those transformations

[@jamescadet4450]

And it also explains how he knew the events of Goku and Baby transpire.

[@bontrapproductions4182]

1:49 I love how Vegeta went for the citizens, show how much he changed

[@naraydaniels7832]

See I think I have an idea why Vegeta was doing so well in this fight. Alongside him being an entire tank he also has slight healing powers from ssg so he’s doing the same thing as black but extensively damaging himself with kaioken

[@sauciine]

not gonna lie, together with his personality, Goku Black's journey to get stronger is pretty dope. almost makes me wanna root for him. oh, and super saiyan god evolution makes total sense btw.

[@sonictj3]

yo ya see that flicker into SS Blue? i was so hyped when i saw it.

[@superjaysilverbird1089]

Timothy45 when is the flicker I don’t see it

[@redxd7108]

This Journey ended up with him fusing with Baby and the creation of the Ultimate warrior Baby Vegito Black

[@gameblaster2124]

@@superjaysilverbird1089 look at vegetas hair in 13:56 - 13:58

[@Fontan_]

@@superjaysilverbird1089 13:57

[@vitortakara7090]

"unlike you, who simply stole the fruits of his training" -learns SSJ4 -leans how to use godly ki -trains to be able to use kaioken with SSJ -creates SSJG rose -lean how to use ki sword technique tbh he did train a lot

[@exequielbreton4393]

Vegito created the Ki Sword technique*

[@vitortakara7090]

@@exequielbreton4393 really but neither goku nor vegeta uses that though? anyways i will change that then

[@somsakknownguy1174]

@@vitortakara7090 Vegeta use It, in DBS Manga.

[@RamdozaCh]

Most of that is still Goku’s stuff dawg

[@coolbeans3752]

Also trained to use healing, and ki constructs.

[@deirvindavis5093]

*everytime he gets beaten* Black: oh yea, it’s all coming together

[@GhostArtoriass]

🤣

[@amanofmanytentacles970]

Black is not holding anything back, he’s pulling out all the stops, he is determined to take Goku’s and by extension the saiyan race’s potential power to its logical extreme and it seems that nothing short of a God Of Destruction might stop him, and eventually not even that. Hell, Black might actually try to go after Toppo and Jiren eventually. Like that other guy said: he’s actually trying to speedrun to Super Saiyan Rosé 4.

[@nahlokin6509]

I think Black is the "avatar" of the animator, the character who applie all is fantasies and theories about transformations, and it's super cool

[@jorgenitales412]

it left such a mark that he made an appareance in fucking absalon.

[@Matt-wj3zy]

Pretty sure he's gonna die after he fight as baby vegito against beerus

[@ivanmunoz9055]

Black being a god and the saiyans being a warrior race means that when black develops its full potential he will become something like a god of war

[@ericchen776]

he's not majin buu vegeta's self sacrificing attack should've killed him there

[@e.i.billones875]

“Different Timelines Same Results, Huh Best Bud.”

[@NinjaStreak]

F(cough)...you!!

[@jozoe6612]

Fr shit dumb t

[@demoknight.]

Am I the only one who realised that this *What If #14* was "leaked" in his video *What If Universe - Official Power Scaling* THAT CAME OUT 7 MONTHS AGO?!?!?! Time stamps on that video: 6:50 and 7:24

[@Miguelnumbers]

@@demoknight. Buddy, it appeared on 0:17 lol, and I'm sure he gave us a warning back then, because we would know the result of this fight through the difference of power showed back on those days between Black and Vegeta's SSJ God evolution.

[@rairai3922]

Monika? Tf you doing here in this timeline.

[@inkynoob1155]

Man Vegeta just wanted to buy his groceries 💀

[@wellingtonafonsodecarvalho9842]

Yeah bro Vegeta seriously needs a break

[@mirage54]

The chain ki scythe thing was SOOOO DOPE. This is incredible.

[@blzzardbeatz1320]

This man don´t wait for Dragon Ball, He makes is own Dragon Ball This is just amazing... Good Job

[@64bitanthony50]

To Hyourinjutsu. Just being frank here , your what ifs are THE most entertaining thing to consume compared to the vast arrays of DBZ fan creations that exist out there. (Believe me there's a lot) From Fanfictions, to fan-animation, abridged series , live-action creation and even games i have consumed a lot. All of them are great homages to this franchise but they never elevated the franchise itself (Team Four Star DBZA being the only exception) . Point is, your work on these what ifs has been fascinating to watch over the years , seen them grown in quality and now with this narrative hook to it i can confidently say that every DBZ fan should watch your what ifs to get the full DBZ experience. Your what ifs in my eyes genuinely elevates the franchise. I haven't felt this giddy to watch something DBZ related since the Broly movie two years ago. Do not stop with this Goku Black story, its at the best part right now and i can't wait to see what happens next. Keep doing this, your work is unparalleled and unique even among the sprite animation sphere. I can write a lengthy essay on what makes your work great but i'll do that on a different day Thank you (side note:- This was supposed to be a Twitter dm but it seems you do not have a twitter acc so resorted to KZbin comments)

[@Staro69]

Uh jesus christ u rly greatful that he existed huh, relatable im glad that hes still continuing the series

[@64bitanthony50]

@@Staro69 yeah you can say that lol

[@darkdevil6508]

Your thoughts on deliverance episode 3?

[@64bitanthony50]

@@darkdevil6508 It looks great mate and its narrative pacing is developing .. it didn't have one previously . Its still wacky as any fan made series tho

[@darkdevil6508]

@@64bitanthony50 I agree. What they did with that episode is mindblowing imo. Best overall dragon ball fan animation ever.

[@Velocity_YT]

OK, the main thing I liked about Saiyans back in the day is that they used to use their own Tails as make shift belts which was pretty cool. Black just did that for a few seconds.

[@dekaro450]

This animation is fire, just imagine how long this took.

[@juliansanchez9798]

Y'know the more I think about it, the more I realize Hyuorinjutsu is a master of very tiny details. Like I feel when future Gohan's theme starts playing it is a callback as to what he said before he was killed by the Androids and Goku Black in this what-if series. That Vegeta is the "someone stronger who will take my place" and for that I deeply respect Hyourinjutsu for that. Thanks a ton for this wonderful series and keep up the good work 👍

[@PLAY-oe1nn]

julian sanchez I just love it when people do that, right?

[@domSB]

oh fuck this hit me hard ngl.

[@YabadaBean]

Vegeta: punches black The grocery bag: *adios*

[@berg5332]

if you go to 1:13 and go frame by frame you can see that he actually just leaves the grocery bag on the floor

[@YabadaBean]

@@berg5332 oh fr? Didn't see that, thanks man

[@AllMight6]

@@berg5332 well it was probably blown to bits by the end

[@Power-xl8vh]

E

[@blackhole9961]

@@YabadaBean f

[@blue_comet6445]

POV: An alternative universe where Vegeta is the main character

[@superbad8008]

This Goku Black just makes me wonder me how crazy it would have been if 8 Gates Gai had a healing factor.

[@zomondi1456]

Even naruto with so6p would have a hard time with that

[@isaihglover7458]

@@zomondi1456 That’s kinda debatable, he wouldn’t have THAT much trouble per say.

[@zomondi1456]

@@isaihglover7458 nah cause 8 gates gai almost killed madara the only reason why he didn't die cause he was already starting to get harsh injuries during 8 gates

[@djscout1868]

Vegeta did the one thing no other gt villain does, he went for the tail.

[@HolyZombieX]

Dj Scout I mean if they did then there would be no story, either super 17 or most likely baby (since he realized where that power came from) would just end it then and there with the tail, everyone dies, and leaves a bitter taste in our mouth for such a anti-climatic ending. That’s probably the reason

[@darksonicyt5430]

To be honest, this is basically turning into its own Goku black arc. And I love it.

[@DanielPerez-ol4jn]

Yeah, it could be the final boss, i like it

[@TheWolfspider86]

I wanna see Jiren go against him

[@GoldDragon20]

He's basically time-hopping to beat the boss he's stuck at, from what I've heard from others. in all honesty, i think it's hilarious

[@valentds]

and now that arc ended

[@sunforreal]

I cant believe the effort put into making all these. All the little fan service details and stuff, this is nothing but raw passion for DB. So cool.

[@kamadoz1269]

5:40 that’s vegeta technique

[@ljcain7402]

Everyone talking about Goku Black but Can we take a minute to appreciate the timeline he's in, where Vegeta becomes the first SSG? It's such an amazing idea and I'd adore to see more done with it!

[@williamchuba9397]

Not much would happen, though. Basically everything RoF and on plays out the same.

[@region7rra881]

@@williamchuba9397 vegeta would be stronger than goku by a little though, he'd get a head start when being trained by whis

[@GloryToYeshuaHamashiach]

@@region7rra881 I mean vegeta’s ssb is a little stronger than Goku’s, keep in mind Vegeta got a 9 month hesdstart to Whis’s training without Goku knowing

[@lukas54cz71]

ok, now timeline where Goku and Vegeta are only SSj while gohan reaches SSG and where Goku Black is good XD

[@SpectroliteDS2400]

i think we're also forgetting that Vegeta now has Evolution god as well, which while still weaker than blue, would set the seeds for Vegeta to get Evolution blue *far* earlier than normal, with Goku himself possibly going for it as well now that he knows such a thing exists...especially since Vegeta ALSO got an early heads up on the idea to combine God with ssj thanks to seeing Black do it.

[@verticaldorito]

Zenkai: *exists* Goku Black: I’LL TAKE YOUR ENTIRE STOCK

[@ZMB_21]

WTF underrated

[@exiegelastweekgamer1571]

Broly: I'm about to steal your property, Kakarot.

[@kevo5133]

Honestly though, the man is abusing those saiyan exploits, even grew the tail

[@technicalvids3137]

@Embodiment of destruction so your saying he would be a power hungry monster that travels through space and time to fight strong opponents and cheats death, and be a man who only strives for power over everything else if he was a saiyan? Unlikely

[@spaceonisorceress4406]

@@exiegelastweekgamer1571 Hippity Hoppity. These Zenkai are now my property

[@sirspaghetti4218]

Houseflies:Exist Me: 13:09

[@FirstnameLastname81206]

Is nobody gonna comment how he briefly goes Rosé to empower the shield at 7:32 ?

[@Gatling93]

*So what's your favourite weapon?* Lunch: *Gun!* Trunks: *Sword.* Yajirobe: *Sword.* Roshi: *Cane.* Goku: *Bō.* *Black:* Sword... Although I'd much prefer a scythe. That, and a chain-sickle.

[@aronsmith3417]

Vegeta: *My boot*

[@nostalgianetwork1225]

I like how Hyu doesn't just use abilities we see in official source material but can get creative with trying out abilities that are theoretically possible.

[@arthurlam751]

Yu-Gi-Oh card: kUnAi WiTh ChAiN

[@jordan.o9476]

Who tf is lunch

[@LowTierKon]

Bulma: *Mech*

[@user-wx2gn2iy1k]

The virgin Anime Goku Black vs. The absolute chad Hyourinverse Goku Black.

[@iceytension]

*Petition for this guy to make the What-If scenarios in the next DB Game*

[@blachkaw]

The fact that vegeta uses many techniques from other fighters like hellzone grenade is why I love these animations!

[@animedenx1815]

As a Vegeta fan, You get a Sub, cuz you showed my boy Vegeta some love, But oh who am I kidding how could he not get a sub for his work? Just amazing dude

[@danielaguirre5078]

TRUE!!!

[@celestialdivineinstinct59]

Unlike Akira Toriyama lol.

[@carlosalva8836]

The fact that goku black threw some civilian cars and vegeta saved him was great

[@deusgamemaster2242]

And Vegeta was not killed, unlike Goku. This Vegeta is superior

[@FishFry1124]

@@deusgamemaster2242 Exactly!

[@averysadwoodworm]

Somewhere out there, there is a Zamasu who took Brolys body instead of Gokus

[@ben69028]

This is a really good idea

[@caesar5588]

Thinking about this alone send shivers down my spine.

[@Excalis3344]

imagine that one fusing into merged zamasu. at that point you might as well just give up

[@chronoa5684]

And there is a timeline when zamasu took monakas body.

[@masont.3198]

Which Broly? The original or the new one?

[@raihothexiv15th37]

This is still my favorite What if to this day.

[@cristobalgarrido4842]

Now that I think of it, Dragon Ball Heroes did something similar, with a version of Black visiting different timelines and fighting (killing) 100 different versions of Goku. In the end he even gained a Super Saiyan Rose 3. Maybe this Black, with all his experimenting (and having discovered Super Saiyan 4) could be the one to achieve Super Saiyan Rose 4. I see this as a sequel to What If #9 instead of a prequel. Could lead to interesing stuff imo.

[@ChromiumDome411]

2:51 And here we are continuing the running gag of “Goku Black killing off West City in a single Ki blast”.

[@21eienni]

Black Gokû's eyes color being different in SSJ4 than Gokû's SSJ4 eyes is a nice detail.

[@foresttaylor7850]

The effort that went into this is astounding and I appreciate it

[@SenniorQuindom]

Yo! This style of that intense sprite combat is a phenomenenal thing, mate. Sick animation!

[@Whineanddine52]

When the world needed him most... *HE RETURNED*

[@imnoob9732]

No he Vanished

[@imnoob9732]

r/whoooosh

[@mindlessjrgamer217]

I'm glad you understand

[@DarkExplosion]

I have several questions

[@gooch6623]

@@imnoob9732 no he returned

[@soggymemes2057]

13:57 Anyone else notice Vegeta tapped into Super Saiyan Blue for a split second?

[@nostalgianetwork1225]

Oh yeah 😏 I noticed

[@lam3638]

7:32 ssr goku black

[@isaiahdeleon2508]

Definitely. Actually thought he was going to do it.

[@Napoleonic_S]

But this black already fought ssb, so how could god vegeta beat him?

[@bryanfisher1788]

@@Napoleonic_S Because he had, sorry, stole a weak goku body so he need to regain (and increase) kis power

[@TalTheBest]

You are the legendary person who made me see just how amazing sprites can look. I never imagined this

[@malky6515]

2:47 My man really pulled the Majin Vegeta card

[@user-ew2sd7vl5m]

This is the Goku Black arc we should’ve gotten. Good work on this series dude, your animations are god tier.

[@JSmilkdud]

TOTALLY AGREE!!!!

[@Gael-xs8cp]

Ssj4 in dragon ball super what a joke

[@potas8]

Bruh this is worse than the manga version of it

[@martinjr9199]

So true

[@shamanri7186]

Personally the only bad part of the Goku Black Arc was the infinite zamasu ending, like they had a awesome ending with Future Trunks and the Spirit Sword and they ruined it by adding that.

[@DragonballBlack]

Loved the Stream bro Can’t wait for the NEXT VS

[@Sword_Man_YT]

Same

[@c0dr3xyt9]

Next Xeno Vegito ssj4 vs gogeta blue

[@celestialdivineinstinct59]

Same! Indeed!

[@simplysupreme1030]

C0dR3X YT Xeno would win because the characters Xeno are technically really above super and regular gt. Should just be gt ssj4 vegito vs Gogeta blue

[@Red-Robin2011]

@@simplysupreme1030 not really. Remember Goku: Xeno in SSJ4 who has had God Ki before lost to post TOP SSGSS Goku. So as much I love the Xeno characters and backstory I don't think they would win due to what has been said in Heroes.

[@itsterra9381]

If I ever want to see some fantastic Vegeta writing I just keep coming back to Hyourin.

[@Dr0pIT23]

13:57 vegeta's hair turning blue for a few frames . The details are amazing,im in love with this.

[@belot217]

6:02 Vegeta's confidence in his transformation that he's willing to leave himself open is such a great touch

[@lastpringle8904]

Nah he just wanted a back massage

[@icykun1783]

i know its 4 in the morning but who cares sleep is for the weak.

[@tamestarling6754]

That's the spirit

[@sweg1346]

more like super saiyan 4 in the morning heh

[@ahmedhesham4871]

I didn't sleep well for 3 days

[@DaDonroy101]

6:45 am for

[@BalenVanHalen001]

4:43 pm for me.

[@blakedenman6429]

I only just realise that vegeta used flashes of super saiyan blue in his evolved god state

[@lukas54cz71]

Amazing. Cannot wait for next.