What if Blitzkrieg FAILED? Hitler Is Overthrown & Soviets Push Through Europe | History Undone

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[@flashgordon6670]

Hitler and Eva Braun escaped to Argentina. Watch the docudrama film Greywolf and Mark Felton videos; Find the Fuhrer, if you don’t believe me.

[@freddieclark]

Blitzkreig was a term adopted by Western Journalists. The Germans used the traditional term 'Bewegungskrieg' or Maneuver warfare.

[@davidrobertson5996]

Exactly. Guderian referred to it as a term coined by the Allies to describe the German tactics.

[@grahamrussell4705]

I love this show , always a good laugh and plenty of banter going on

[@emissarial6598]

I really enjoy this channel - especially when this panel is present.

[@Simon-jj2pu]

Any chance of a detailed analysis of the difference between blitzkrieg and deep battle, I think I know but a good analysis would be good. Maybe bringing in Nimitz island hopping, the Monty single thrust versus the Ike full front. But then we are talking 5 star decisions. Way above most of our pay grades

[@hazchemel]

Sure, but that never stops the enthusiast from speculating. And this episode takes on the massive what if blitzkrieg fails against French resistance. Your suggestion might benefit from couching it in a what if paradigm.

[@georgenelson8284]

Great video from one of the best channels on KZbin

[@Assassin7451]

Said it before, but this channel is awesome! 👍🏻

[@duncanharris9479]

It's not awesome at grammar though.

[@nuttygeezer708]

Fantastic debate on what is very interesting topic!

[@airborngrmp1]

"Schneller Heinz" Guderian is a fascinating general.

[@jc-d6179]

Fascinating - as ever!

[@miketheneanderthal9490]

I really love this show. Most historians don't like to do "hypotheticals", and I understand that each deviation leads to another and another that spins quickly off into lala land. With that said, there is nothing quite as fun and engaging for non historians, so this stuff really gets folks excited and maybe helps motivate our young to become our future great historians.

[@byronswain7569]

When there are multiple segments of the video spent explaining that blitzkrieg is a construct made up after the fact, and then the host insists to keep using blitzkrieg, I feel confused. Shouldn't the video mention the real terms to keep things accurate?

[@supabass4003]

If German blitzkrieg had failed then it is totally possible we may have seen a Russian blyatskrieg in the east.

[@museumoflosttime9718]

A very good three dimensional conversation, thank you chaps.

[@ducthman4737]

The Netherlands! There is no country called Holland in those days.

[@martinlarsen414]

Me as a Dane: "Great! They'll cover the invasion of my country". Me at 13:24: "I guess the prior 15 seconds sum up the invasion pretty well". Great show though :D

[@ivanconnolly7332]

What if the French airforce and RAF concentrated on disrupting the one lane 300 mile long traffic jam that was the German advance.

[@freddysw]

This is something I’ve always wondered, if a chance RAF scout plane had found the column could they have been bombed into oblivion blunting the advance?

[@ivanconnolly7332]

@@freddysw 300 miles of choke points meant every time destroyed vehicles blocked the road the entire column was held up , how many hours a day of standstill before the spearhead ran out of fuel.

[@ДушманКакдела]

​@ivanconnolly7332 there were multiple routes of advance, the logistics would be disrupted. The issue was that the French and British were losing faster than the Germans needed food, gas, and ammo.

[@Klaus-em3ix]

Ardennen - was risky.

[@calistudent6335]

Funny how we use the original name for the Wehrmacht but not for Bewegungskrieg

[@Doc_Tar]

For a native English speaker that's a mouth full to say.

[@mickelmas8877]

Interesting

[@scottpankonin1068]

The Red Army would be purge-era in this timeline. If they attack west, they lose badly. So Hitler and Stalin could be both replaced.

[@Orinslayer]

Trotsky was assassinated to prevent this exact situation from occurring. If Stalin is found incompetent, and replaced, Trotsky might end up as head of the Supreme Soviet over the Council of Soviets, who knows what this might change.

[@robertmoulds160]

What if aircraft deployed in Pearl Harbor bombed the Japanese during the first wave of the attack on Pearl Harbor. During the attack the Americans sank four of the six aircraft carriers damage one leaving only one of the mobile fleet. Costing Japan the momentum in December 1941 to June 1942. Could it prevent the fall of Bataan to the Japanese, while being unable to informed the Dutch due to concern the Germans finding out so the Dutch East Indies. Japanese action in the Indian Ocean would limited despite sinking the Prince of Wales and Rupulse.

[@AlbertComelles1970]

I'm afraid Franco was not a fascist, but a spanish catholic nationalist, "Nacional-católico". And specially, a "Francoist".

[@Orinslayer]

He wasn't on anyone's side but his own.

[@ДушманКакдела]

​@@Orinslayerand also the Fascists

[@gumdeo]

Similar to Salazar.

[@ducthman4737]

@@ДушманКакдела Mussolini was a communist.

[@ДушманКакдела]

@@ducthman4737 lol no

[@MunjoMunjo-qi2tx]

...."they are the panzer elite,born to compete ,never retreat...ghost division..."

[@robbieredball]

How could it have failed in the west when the Duke of Windsor had given the Germans the allied troop dispositions?

[@gumdeo]

This is the dream scenario for Stalin.

[@nickl7488]

interesting choice of guest, have an admiral talk about land warfare... just kidding, video was good

[@karljensen893]

Yeah .. AI ... what if what if

[@duncanharris9479]

What if Blitzkriedg HAD failed? Please use the right grammar.

[@oxcart4172]

How is this history? It's just conjecture

[@jamesgornall5731]

bewegungskrieg, at least get the terminology right

[@londonsparrow9531]

A bunch of whatiffery. Interesting but somewhat futile.

[@johnhallett5846]

guess they do not want any

[@johnhallett5846]

What if the moon exploded? That is about as valid as this video.

[@Ross-e9o]

Just playing games with history. Why not take the time to analyse what really happened.

[@robirvine6970]

Except its actual experts with valid opinions not some online moron.

[@pakkazull8370]

​@@Ross-e9oBecause there's a million books, documentaries, KZbin videos, podcasts, etc. analysing what actually happened. These History Undone videos are basically educated guesses and speculation, and that's fine! It's fun to explore "what if" scenarios.

[@Ross-e9o]

@@pakkazull8370 Well if you like pretend history good for you. I don’t for one reason. You can’t take one significant incident in history in isolation and then speculate a “what if” scenario. The attack on the western Low Countries happened as a result of a cascading series of events prior to 1940, along the way if any preceding event was altered then the blitzkreig as we know it to be would not have happened. Get it? Speculation on single events don’t work because there are an infinite variables both in the preceding and subsequent outcomes. There’s enough good, factual analysis of actual events out there if you want to immerse yourself in it. Big events are made up of tens of thousands of minute events, each one a variable and that’s why it’s a waste of time. Here’s a variable for you. The subsequent fall of France led to the USA mobilising its industrial might. If the blitzkreig had failed and the US not mobilised would the Nazies have developed the atomic bomb first. Get you head around that.

[@pakkazull8370]

​@@Ross-e9oIt's entertainment. I find it entertaining. Just look at something else if you think it's a waste of time. The real waste of time is commenting on it.

[@jmcw9632]

Interesting