What if Cascadia Became Independent?

[@justdrop5110]

Ive lived in the "cascadia" region for my entire life, and I could say without a doubt that idaho would mess up the whole thing if it existed.

[@confusedowl297]

Agreed. Idaho should not be included.

[@zkittlezthabanditt604]

Can confirm lmao

[@deanfirnatine7814]

There is a reason people outside Seattle area and Portland area want to join Seattle, it is because we hate the commie bastards in Seattle and Portland.

[@zkittlezthabanditt604]

@@deanfirnatine7814 Your comment doesn't really make sense... So we want to join Seattle to team with the Commie's?

[@owenthornhill9671]

@@deanfirnatine7814 where are these commies? I don't think there are many Chinese communists or Cuban communists living in either city.

[@GeographyWorld]

That is interesting. It would end the Point Roberts border obscurity so the Americans there wouldn't have to pass through another country to go to high school!

[@mushroomsteve]

Same with the one in Hyder, Alaska.

[@timomastosalo]

Yet it would drop their economy: their major income source is tourism - precisely because of the border.

[@owenthornhill9671]

@@timomastosalo people would still visit, just misses out on tax loopholes for cross border shopper's and would be more year round living not seasonal holiday home people. House prices would increase.

[@internetbaby7277]

Being Born and raised in Bc/Washington I fully support this

[@sm1522]

if you want Cascadian and Californian independence: discord.gg/AGgt8jgv / facebook.com/groups/188305602922055/

[@IpSyCo]

@@sm1522 It’s not happening unless the US itself collapses.

[@MinecraftMasterNo1]

@@sm1522 I believe the only State with a provision for secession is Texas. All other states legally cannot leave.

[@professorcube5104]

No Texas can't leave the U.S

[@thebigbeast563]

Do it

[@xulapostasy7132]

I'm from Seattle and I support this. Tired of people assuming I'm from god awful California when I say I'm from the west coast.

[@LegitPenguinIcyP]

Yeah because seattle is so much better

[@brandon9172]

I live right above Astoria and support this as well.

[@inkerilain]

Just say you're from Seattle. Everyone knows where it is.

[@kikimdo]

Then just say you're from Washington State or Seattle.

[@novida4770]

Seattle Is gross

[@johnchedsey1306]

It really needs pointed out that although the metro areas in Washington and Oregon are definitely quite liberal, the rural regions of both states are extremely right wing and let's just say that many residents east of the Cascades have deep dislike of Seattle or Portland. Idaho is also not a liberal bastion by any means. What I would love to see, though, is the border between the US and Canada completely opened up (after the pandemic). I used to visit Vancouver a lot to see friends and the border crossing is unnecessarily difficult for two friendly countries.

[@raynemichelle2996]

Same with Mexico, but racism

[@deanl0]

Look at Europe no borders crossing but countries still handle their own citizens and we are here so similar culturally , what's the fuss really?

[@NoBaconForYou]

Conservatives in cascadia would be better represented in cascadia than they are in Washington or the US at a federal level. Conservatives votes are quite literally worthless in Washington/Oregon with the electoral system. All of our electoral votes always go to democratic candidates and all of our representatives are democrats. Under a new Cascadian government, this minority of republicans could be given fair representation without setting up a system that allows overrepresentation like the electoral college in the US does.

[@davynhainstock7503]

In bc we also kinda hate Vancouver

[@lindagivembackmychildren109]

I currently live east of Seattle in a rural little town and I would disagree, people here are right wing but they aren't exactly extreme right wing. its gotten a little worse but many people here are still very reasonable people who are willing to be friends and neighbors regardless of race and sexuality.

[@confusedowl297]

I’m from Oregon and I would support this!

[@matthewklemp2631]

Same!

[@jimboonie9885]

If cascadia becomes real then its only fair for texas to leave also

[@HMBNnews]

A washingtonian here i support the independence

[@500mph7]

America should annex B.C. so they can freely live with their Oregon and Washington cousins

[@devonjamesj]

As someone who grew up in Metro Vancouver, lives in Kelowna, and had American inlaws in Spokane, this is one of the best information videos I have seen on my region. I found literally zero factual inaccuracies.... at least to the best of my knowledge. Well done!

[@eliletts5158]

The national animal of "Cascadia" should be sasquatch...

[@skyrrmish868]

Beaver cuz Oregon and Canada’s national and state animals are both beavers 🦫

[@eliletts5158]

@@skyrrmish868 that would make sense! 👍

[@profd65]

Or the slug.

[@John-mf6ky]

A salmon would be fitting

[@TabooRevolution13]

It is!

[@Nightshift10000]

Just did a video on this myself, I’m love the idea of Cascadia becoming its own nation.

[@doriannamjesnik3007]

Unfortunately while your idea and economic theory is utopic, it will politically not happen. I'm in your discord server btw.

[@TabooRevolution13]

It has been for 8 years. It's the 1st Noocracy Republic! That means rule by intelligence. So did you know if you take any group of people at random and ask them if they'd prefer a president determined by intelligence or popularity the majority choose one who is intelligent?

[@dylanmurphy6894]

Traitor

[@TabooRevolution13]

@@dylanmurphy6894 It's been a new country for nearly a decade. They just didn't tell you on the news.

[@Nightshift10000]

@@dylanmurphy6894 for what?

[@michaeldalton1874]

This bbn is more likely then you give it credit for. Culturally, the PNW is already very separate from the rest of the US and the anti government sentiment runs strong. All the pieces are there, convincing people to act is the hard part. Mostly because we already feel "out". We dont sway the federal government like CA or TX, we are geographically separate from the eastern seaboard, and the Mississippi. We are economically separate as well. We dont rely on the eastern seaboard, the Mississippi, or the Gulf region which 80% of Americans do. Most of the remaining are in CA bay region and south.

[@fresh_labz1015]

You speak the T R U T H

[@davynhainstock7503]

You forgot the canada bit ...kind of a big deal looking at a map wich shows you don't care that much

[@izzyhopeunlisted]

I live in Washington and 1000% want this. Fully and completely. Like seriously I want this

[@jimboonie9885]

Yes

[@pacificnorthwet]

Same here, I'm a fellow Washington native, and escaping from the rest of the US's insanity and joining our northern siblings would be ideal imo.

[@GreenWhaIe]

Yeah

[@NoUseforaFlip]

Long live Cascadia from Oregon

[@dylanmurphy6894]

@@pacificnorthwet your northern neighbours will be joining Canzuk, they don’t like Americans and we already share the same head of state

[@Ratchet4647]

The Cascadian region could be United. But it's much more likely to occur within a larger union of the US and Canada.

[@goldenrepublic6848]

And a larger union with Mexico and Central America

[@Ratchet4647]

@@goldenrepublic6848 That would be the case but not very likely. Union with Canada is most likely, followed by a union with both Canada and Mexico, distantly followed by the central American countries

[@Forlfir]

@@goldenrepublic6848 that wouldn't work due to cultural reasons and an union with a country like the US that would probably dictate everything is not the best idea

[@1ponsford]

Cascades is more likely then Canada EVER agreeing to a union with the US! Part or all of California would likely join a future Cascadia too.

[@Ratchet4647]

@@1ponsford Secession is illegal. It could never happen. More likely is 2 countries which already have a degree of bilateral cooperation and are very similar, to continue to integrate until they form a union, the USA and Canada.

[@michietn5391]

While geographically coherent, the political sentiments across the region are polar opposites. Urban vs Rural would be at perpetual war, maybe violent war.

[@ec8107]

True, but also true of the US as a whole.

[@thedragonsdenclips]

Possibly, the general consensus of the Cascadian Independence Movement (Which I am a part of), is a stress on municipal liberty and self-determinism, each community being able to choose how it is run, whether it be stout capitalism, or communism. This would allow the conservative areas to keep their ideology while liberal areas or those with more eccentric ideologies are allowed to keep theirs.

[@michietn5391]

@@thedragonsdenclips So hypothetical Cascadia is a union of multicultures? That looks to me like an obvious recipe for divisiveness and malfunction. There is no point in forming a union of disagreements. What would happen if two people who hate each other were forced to marry? What would happen if attacked from outside, with one faction liking it, the other abhorring it?

[@thedragonsdenclips]

@@michietn5391 First I will ask you: How is that any different from the system we have now? We have seen in our own lifetimes the polar divisiveness that the structure of this government causes. Second I will state this: People always will disagree, no matter what. Allowing people to make communities with differing ideologies allows a space for most any method of thinking, and eliminates the need to force your ideology upon others to achieve that environment. It would be foolish for a community to begin pushing acts of violence against another for they themselves would likely lose their community aligned with the ideology that they themselves chose. Rates of happiness would be higher as people could be content in their own communities, and not wish to disturb the peace that allowed them to create said communities. Those groups that promote violence would be much smaller than in the US today, where such groups grow rampantly due to the general unease of US society with government, chafing against overt authority forcing a "One Size Fits All" agenda, and general inability to create and maintain communities after a vision. Self determinism does not exist in the United States, as well as in most countries. To quote Murray Bookchin: "Many arguments against libertarian municipalism - even with its strong confederal emphasis derive from a failure to understand its distinction between policy-making and administration. This distinction is fundamental to libertarian municipalism and must always be kept in mind. Policy is made by a community or neighborhood assembly of free citizens; administration is performed by confederal councils composed of mandated, recallable deputies of wards, towns, and villages. If particular communities or neighborhoods - or a minority grouping of them choose to go their own way to a point where human rights are violated or where ecological mayhem is permitted, the majority in a local or regional confederation has every right to prevent such malfeasances through its confederal council.". Each community is able to decide how it is run to the will of the people in that community, until such an event arises that A: Conflicts greatly with human rights to where intervention is necessary, or B: Major ecological damage is caused, threatening the natural biosphere of the surrounding areas. While this is certainly not a comprehensive coverage of what could lead to a confederal intervention in a community, those are the two most basic, and most likely to be used reasons for such an intervention. Few can argue about the importance of human rights, and in the Pacific Northwest environmentalist sympathies are strong even in some of the most conservative areas, so such acts to protect environment also likely would be met with a sense of unity between communities, unless it is perceived that the measures proposed go beyond what is necessary to protect that community's natural resources, in which case the majority of the federation would object or simply vote against those measures. There is always a risk of violence when differing ideologies come into light, but let me ask you: Is this system any better or worse than a system that only allows one ideology to present itself fully, and suppresses others? Ideological suppression is a main ingredient in perceived oppression for many people, making a much higher potential for violence as these ideologies continue to be suppressed.

[@michietn5391]

@@thedragonsdenclips 1 Show less for clarity. 2 Murray Bookchin is Marxist www.marxists.org/archive/bookchin/index.htm 3 All that text makes for unclarity. 4 USA is mucked up, the states are individually mucked up, and Cascadia would be mucked up too. THAT is clarity.

[@cherylcampbell9369]

Non-Native native Oregonian here. Very interesting. I'll watch with hope that the Native gov't s and lands are acknowledged. They're always omitted when alternate plans ate examined. In videos like and even in science fiction/ post-apocalyptic tales.

[@espribrockway]

"non-native native Oregonian." This oxymoron goes to show how self-censorship makes life far more confusing, and for what? As an Oregonian, and a member of the Lenni Lanape tribe, relax. If you were born here, you're a native. If you really want to be woke, maybe learn the tribe names that you're referencing. We have never viewed the world as private property. It's your land too. You're a native too if that's what you needed to hear. Sheesh bruh

[@dylanmurphy6894]

@@espribrockway you aren’t native just because you are born there. If a Chinese person is born in the uk, they aren’t a native Brit, they are a Chinese person. End of story.

[@deanl0]

​@@dylanmurphy6894 Try to tell that to an Indu. The mayor of London town is Sadiq Khan He tell ya to go take a hike..

[@dylanmurphy6894]

@@deanl0 the mayor of London is Pakistani, what’s your point? You don’t become English by being born here, this isn’t America

[@frankb3347]

"Fly the blue, white and green, If you know what I mean Fly it high, fly it free, From the mountains to the sea We once belonged to a place called the United Snakes Til we realized were free Cascadians We don’t need any wars, That is not what Iife’s for 
No more blood spilt for oil, Only hands working soil 
Let’s instead grow with love and clean rain from above 
And may the salmon fill these rivers evermore Fly that blue, white and green, You all know what I mean 
Our hearts love equally 
There’s no room for fear and greed Take my hand, sing with me, “Oh, Cascadia the free” 
 And together we will end this tyranny Pay attention to the ground, There is life all around 
 Forests lush and waters clean, Mountain snow that fills the streams 
 Listen close and you’ll know that the salmon told us so 
 We must stand and protect Cascadia When our children are old 
They’ll know land can’t be sold 
And the borders will come down 
Earth united as one 
 They’ll think of us and they’ll say 
“THANKS FOR DE-PAVING THE WAY” 
 To a free and healthy Cascadia 
so....................... Fly that blue, white and green, You all feel what I mean 
 Fly it high, fly it free, From the mountains to the sea 
May the rain fall on us, wash away our distrust 
Let’s join hands and overthrow this tyranny No Tyranny! No Tyranny! We’ll... 
 make a true democracy! Soon one day Cas-ca-di-a shall be free!" Lyrics by Little Bear and the Foster Villagers

[@Mr.Williams23]

You calling everyone in the US a snake?

[@frankb3347]

@@Mr.Williams23 Not everyone. Most people anywhere in the world are good and decent folk. It's just their utterly corrupted ruling elite, who control everything, that are the problem.

[@maxwellc1227]

Hell yeah! Glad our movement is being recognized!

[@Mr.Williams23]

What movement cause I haven't heard of any secession movements lately except calexit back in 2016

[@gabbar51ngh]

First you need a bill in USA for allowing secessionist movements

[@Mr.Williams23]

@@gabbar51ngh a bill for what????? Funding a secession movement that will waste billions of taxpayers money just because of a secession movement???? I think you are looking for legislation or institution to allow that and a bill wouldn't help so you need some education there 😜

[@Steve-zc9ht]

@@Mr.Williams23 in order to get things passed the entire population has to vote and the USA government will never let that happen because they have a law that once your a state you can never leave and plus the other 48 states will not like this

[@mypetcrow9873]

@@gabbar51ngh This will never happen. Never. Too much power and greed involved.

[@lito5953]

As a Seattle native, Bellingham or Victoria would be my picks as capital of Cascadia

[@frankb3347]

As we wouldn't need the Peace Arch border park anymore I imagine the new capital being built on those grounds.

[@doriannamjesnik3007]

I'd advocate for Vancouver.

[@Vchevy]

Victoria is a good idea

[@internetbaby7277]

victoria is a great port city and already a very important historic capital it would be perfect for capital. and pretty central too

[@bhrisooo]

@@internetbaby7277 I think Seattle would be better because it’s in the middle of cascadia and is the biggest city

[@michaeltnk1135]

I was just reading about the proposed state of Jefferson before I saw this video. Both are regions of the Pacific Northwest that want to breakaway in one form or another. Thought that was a cool coincidence Edit: Wow, you even mentioned Jefferson in the video

[@ThatIsInterestingTII]

That's funny! I've actually been planning to make one of my next videos on the State of Jefferson.

[@michaeltnk1135]

That Is Interesting Awesome. I’m excited for for more of your videos

[@skyrrmish868]

I’m from the willamette valley and I’d love to separate from them

[@omaralkayal7598]

Wow ! Now THIS is interesting !!

[@louderthangod]

Native Californian here....take us with you. Conservatives, wouldn’t you want to get rid of all of these liberal electoral votes? Seems like a win-win to me.

[@hugomartinez692]

As a right-wing Texan, I’d happily let the Pacific Coast west of the Cascades and California Central Valley go and be its own country; let them do what they want in their new country. Probably add the westernmost parts of British Columbia to this new country, too.

[@randallstephens1680]

Yes, please secede. But you're only allowed to take your small, insignificant urban centers with you. The vast majority of the land belongs to those who feed you with it.

[@theawecat27]

no, you're not in the northwest and are very separated from any cascadian urbans area., but i'm sure you could be your own country and we would help you.

[@jimmyisawkward]

Viva Cascadia! I don’t support independence, but I love this region, and support more regional connection, kind of like another northeast corridor. Nice video. Edit: in the event of a collapse of the United States I support Cascadia, but until then there is no way we can stand up to the military power

[@7thBatallion]

Might change your mind once Moore v Harper comes to pass

[@jimmyisawkward]

@@7thBatallion see: edit

[@Gay_Nigga_Hoodmoments]

Federal government is out of touch and whores our regions out to major corporations and strips us of our minerals

[@yakimawindowwashing]

Eastern Washington would definitely split from western Washington

[@zach2473]

Yeah people act like the whole state is just a hub of left wing ideas. They’ve obviously never been to eastern and central Washington

[@Steve-zc9ht]

@@zach2473 EXACTLY the conservative eastern areas will all split from Washington just to stay with the USA and what makes them think Idaho will like this lmao 😂 because they most definitely will not there super conservatives

[@mercator79]

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lincoln_(proposed_Northwestern_state)

[@skyrrmish868]

Am I the only one that thinks western WA and OR shout merge and eastern WA and OR should merge?

[@SofaMuncher]

I think the left and right both in Cascadia would centralize a lot... here in the pacific northwest people generally align politically based on eastern national politics rather than local provincial politics.

[@cadeduerr4016]

as a native Seattlite, both born and raise, I would love to see an Independent Cascadia

[@noneyabusiness714]

Sounds good to me, just don’t plan on leaving it when it inevitably falls apart because it can not sustain itself under the socialist promises it’s made. Believe me I, like many Americans would love to have two separate countries in which each side would have to live under the consequences of their perspective policies the issue is just like we’re seeing today with places like CA and NY people will inevitably look to flee the blue areas in favor of lower taxes, more freedoms, and less government interference in daily life. So if everyone in “Cascadia” would agree to never leave it I would say GO FOR IT! In fact I’ll help you pack.

[@NatureShy]

@@noneyabusiness714 That's a funny joke.

[@noneyabusiness714]

@@NatureShy not joking, I meant every word of it.. what is it you think I’m Joking about?

[@lindagivembackmychildren109]

@@noneyabusiness714 read Ecotopia, Cascadia does not need to be socialist.

[@noneyabusiness714]

@@lindagivembackmychildren109 okay, so you’re telling me a country made up of California, Washington, Oregon, and the most liberal parts of Idaho all of a sudden wouldn’t try to run things like they already do; in a socialist way?

[@why-xr3ds]

i’ve lived in oregon my entire life and cascadia sounds amazing

[@omaralkayal7598]

please do more videos on separatist movements

[@ThatIsInterestingTII]

Definitely will. Glad you enjoyed!

[@666myname666]

We can do one about Why is the country called Saudi Arabia after house of Saud? why ?

[@kirbycobain1845]

as someone from cascadian nor cal, i would personally love this

[@douglasstemke2444]

Read at some point "The 9 Nations of North America" break NA into 9 different countries based on culture and industry.

[@jogasahota5134]

Ya I heard of it

[@Forlfir]

Another interesting one :)

[@Merle1987]

This kid is up and coming.

[@sgtspazz4321]

The US is having a tough time right now. Wouldn't be surprised if people started talking more about this pipe-dream.

[@SofaMuncher]

Grown up in Langley BC my whole life, I support Cascadia, mass growth is ruining the pacific Northwest, and we need the ability to control ourselves!

[@jamescoulson7729]

Victoria is also the oldest city in the region, and the historic and cultural capital of the region

[@pongop]

I love Cascadia and bioregionalism! Great video. In your list of major Cascadian cities, Tacoma got left off though! It could make a good capital.

[@slinkbradshaw8674]

I'd move to Cascadia 100%

[@TabooRevolution13]

Cascadia is the best! Why would I ever leave?

[@RsSooke]

I live in greater Victoria, we’re up to almost 500,000 people now in the metro region. Also the capital of British Columbia. There is a direct ferry to Seattle WA as well as a ferry to Port Angeles WA, and several nearby smaller Canadian/American islands. It would be hilarious if we became the capital of “Cascadia.” Not that it would ever really happen. Very cool video.

[@neitan6891]

Born and raised Oregonian here who went to college near Santa Rosa. This is what I want. I never felt connected to the east coast and the federal government at all. My life and my family are all in the Western US, and western Canada feels a lot more familiar to me than the US east of the Rockies does.

[@aidanpayan2033]

I’m an Alaskan native and I wouldn’t be surprised if Juneau and the rest of south east Alaska would join Cascadia considering they are quite liberal and share a very similar climate and border BC.

[@dylanmurphy6894]

You can’t create a nation based on your political views, that’s called a dictatorship

[@aidanpayan6919]

@@dylanmurphy6894 didn’t say they were my political views I just think because Juneau and southeast Alaska share similar political views and have more in common with Pacific Northwest culture than Alaskan culture they would possibly join.

[@BigEugenesChaplin]

Thanks for enabling captions. I wish every KZbinr would.

[@UniversalistSon9]

I’m Vancouver, Washington and I want a free Cascadia ✊🏻

[@RosebudSymphony]

I would support this

[@dylt2432]

Independence for Cascadia plus California!! No more homeless problems in USA and Canada. People from Ontario Florida Texas and Quebec will be happy. Cascadia +Cali housing will be cheaper because it will scare away investors and people can finally afford a house. Perfect!

[@j.s.7335]

This would probably be the most sensible new country that could be made out of parts of the US and/or Canada for the reasons you outlined. Seattle would be the obvious capital being central to the population and the largest city.

[@cascadianseagull]

As a Washingtonian that's a big effing no to Idaho. They belong to the lost cause.

[@3ggshe11s]

Then you just want a political division and not an ecological/bioregional one.

[@FirstLast-qf1df]

2:43 What do you mean by easier border crossings? Prior to this whole COVID outbreak it was one of the easiest borders in the world to cross.

[@pacificnorthwet]

Compared to the EU it's laughable

[@setesh1294]

@@pacificnorthwet the EU is basically a wannabe United States.

[@dylanmurphy6894]

@@pacificnorthwet because the EU is United, US & Canada aren’t. It’s better to compare EU’s internal borders with American states

[@idcgaming518]

@@dylanmurphy6894 why do you think us Brits left? We don't want that. We're already overpopulated as is, and way more people were coming in than leaving.

[@parkerc9816]

It's time my people be freed

[@pathosofmine]

Inb4 federation forces send a certain "crimson" to the region

[@nsr-ints]

So fed in this analogue would be like... The USA?

[@jepsteryan3908]

yes

[@CocoTaveras8975]

Jepsteryan Hi

[@maximaldinotrap]

**Sees Cascadia** **Sees what happens in Project Wingman** I am just gonna walk away.

[@pathosofmine]

IT'S ALL, ORANGE.

[@davidford694]

The area you describe for Cascadia was once the Columbia District of the Hudson's Bay Company. Governed by one of my several greats uncles.

[@Bundles0fJ0y]

Im pretty sure Washington and Oregon would want to split. East and west most likely

[@setesh1294]

I'm sure if Cascadia existed there would be wars fought between Eastern and Western Cascadia. And I'm pretty sure Eastern would win, since they have the food. And while yes, the ports do exist, that wouldn't be enough

[@simplisticminimalistic868]

That cool fundy outro tho! subbed :D

[@ten_tego_teges]

Go Cascadia! I'm not from threre, but it makes a lot of sense to me that you'd want independence for your region.

[@wilmetteentwistle9242]

Astoria also has a huge sandbar that is ever changing and could interfere with major shipping

[@justbr34th12]

I Really Want This It Would Be Great

[@ShonnMorris]

Correction; secession isn't exactly illegal in the US. The US constitution doesn't mention secession at all. Also, California has its own independence movement which includes all of CA so Cascadia can't have part of it :)

[@aquiamorgan2416]

Eh, well. The whole civil war thing kinda puts a precedent in there that lawyers can reference in lieu of actual legislation.

[@ShonnMorris]

@@aquiamorgan2416 It's case law that can always be overturned by another ruling. Case law, therefore, is not a good precedent as it can always be overturned.. Otherwise, legal abortion would never be threatened. As far as civil war goes, things are different than they were in the 1860s. There is no scenario in which the US wages a civil war today that won't completely destroy the US economy which would result in the US dissolving anyway.

[@TabooRevolution13]

There are only two ways to do Secession in the US... My way! Or the highway!

[@axisboss1654]

I’m from Metro Vancouver and this would be interesting

[@djdudealex3422]

In my opinion, the capital city would likely be Seattle as it is not 100% but fairly central and is also the economical and population center of all of cascadia, or possibly they could create a new large economically important and geographically central. Anyway please make another on Cascadia and and it will be interesting to see we’re this independence movement grow.

[@jamescoulson7729]

Victoria is the oldest city in the region and is very much a big cultural and historic city where every street and building is important to the history of the region in some way or another so it would be a good capital for cultural reasons

[@nihilis7819]

Good video

[@notorious_majora]

When I think of Cascadia I think of the I-5 corridor. Once you leave it the culture, climate, and politics change drastically.

[@eighteenpastures9035]

i am from new west and i support this

[@Jarekthegamingdragon]

Born and raised in Portland, man I wish this could happen so much. I don't need to tell you how upset we are with this country. We aren't represented correctly nor do we want to be associated with the mess that is the United States. Although I will say this, Idaho would NEVER be a part of this and the PNW would never want them. They are hard red and the complete opposite of what the population center wants. When we have alt right idiots invading portland, they often times come from Idaho. Edit: Victoria doesn't make sense as a capitol. It's not in the center of the region at all and is on vancouver island. The most logical city to use would be Seattle, as it is *the* center of the region. Easy to access from both Portland and vancouver.

[@arjb1046]

Born and raised in Portland, OR and will be in California soon. I stand and support both Cascadia and an independent (left wing) California.

[@TabooRevolution13]

Well the right vs left paradigm is just a divide and conquer strategy used to distract us!

[@adamj6105]

Yoooo, I rarely hear Bremerton in videos, that felt good

[@dog-ez2nu]

It would easily be more European than the rest of Canada that's for sure; it's basically a long Switzerland.

[@axisboss1654]

Yes, or the Nordic of the Americas

[@TheRealBaldwinIV]

​@@axisboss1654 Insert Vinlandic Republic

[@drivernephi7494]

Fun fact endor in the og star wars was filmed in Washington State

[@TabooRevolution13]

Bigfoot Space Command

[@docjanos]

Hello from a Cascadian, a Geography PhD, and someone who has actually worked on Cascadia region projects. First off, a fundamental error, the 'expanded' Cascadia that you referred to--stretch from the Alaska Panhandle to northern Calif. is most definitely not coterminous with the Cascade crest--it goes well beyond that. Indeed the Cascade crest version of Cascadia is by some measure the most restricted. The boundary would be at the actual Cascade crest, or the spine of the mountains from roughly central B.C. to northern Calif--an even more restricted one would discount the extension of the mountains into Calif. The eastern slopes of BC, WA and OR would remain within their parent countries. This more concentrated vision has the advantages of cohesiveness in a) being Pacific rather inland oriented in terms of trade and physical environment b) it is predominantly urban and would not to be concerned with the sparsely populated regions c) it is mostly politically liberal But your conclusion is correct, the notion of Cascadia as an independent is far more unrealistic than to to even call it a pipe dream, and that the only path forward is through regional cooperation. That already has been going on for some 30-40 years; the governors and premiers, as well as the legislatures, meet with each other occasionally and there are various regional business groups along the I-5 corridor. Actually, such interaction is not unknown along the shared boundary primarily because border states / provinces often have more in common with each other than either does with their federal gov't; Montana with Alberta, Ontario with New York / Michigan. These went along swimmingly until first 9/11 happened, then was rebuilt and then the Trump disaster hit where he basically threw Canada (and all other allies) under the bus. Now we have the pandemic and while we can once again expect a recovery in relations, a proper regional grouping will never happen. As to Idaho being part--that is laughable. That most conservative state would have no political clout over an entity fully controlled by coastal liberals. Indeed, (most of) inland BC, eastern WA & OR would also be further reduced in their influence were the borders to be 1:1 with the current state / prov boundaries. All that is before even giving the slightest thought to the massive costs and complexities invlolved in such a trasnfer. What happens to federal land? Between the military bases, national parks, dams and ports it's a huge undertaking. What about transfer payments? What kind of government?--the parliamentary system and the 3-branch American system are vastly different? The Quebec sovereignty movement, which never succeeded, began to expose some of these complexities for both parties and here we would have that situation with more variables, two federal entities and at least three first level administrative districts. Fun experiment, but does not pass the reality test.

[@sanchoodell6789]

I've always regarded "Canada" as no more than an integral part of the United States. The 51st if you will. They even speak with the same accent(s) No more distinct (& less so) then the southern US accent(s) They were both founded by the same people/stock i.e the British. Vancouver has bags more in common with Seattle just a few miles away than it ever would with Toronto or Ottawa. Seattle has a lot more in common with Vancouver than New York, Washington DC or Detroit.

[@ErazerPhazer]

Living in the cascadia region they should make Bellingham the capital because they are bone dry of work and could use the help.

[@grayanddevpdx]

As someone who lives in Oregon, this would be amazing because: 1. I don’t have to listen to America gun jokes. 2. We have our own politics and laws to make it closer to how I’ve always wanted my country to be.

[@Dubb-ee8gr]

Why don’t you move to Canada?

[@andrzejszpak688]

@@Dubb-ee8grBecause Oregon is home

[@Dubb-ee8gr]

@@andrzejszpak688 yea but America is not home…

[@-xavierw.-3857]

It would be all fun and games until the cascadia earthquake wrecks us all

[@matcheer9909]

I thrive in that northern coastal multi nation rain forest.

[@alvarobazan7683]

just saying that out loud always sounds cool

[@davidc293]

I wohld support Cascadia as its own country! I even think all of California would join and want to be a part of this new and amazing country

[@LaserBread]

I think, and I think most Californians who have their own independence movement in order agree, that California should go off and vibe on its own. Maybe yoink Nevada if they want. We would be close allies, but we'd probably do our own thing for the most part.

[@itouch5VideoBlog]

Looking at the Picture of Kennewick WA you used, I see it's close to 2 decades old by my estimation based on certain infrastructure missing in the photo used.

[@Jdm491]

The coat of arms on the flag should be Mt rainier

[@kevindivel4574]

Wouldn’t it be nice if Portland and Seattle left the US

[@azulaquaza4916]

Portland yes, Seattle is a crown jewel

[@tuttt99]

If I could find a small affordable plot of land near Prince Rupert with access to power water & communications, I could consider retiring there, for its strong similarity to my favorite place on earth, Norway.

[@gus473]

Anyone check with the Indigenous on this....? 🤔

[@zkittlezthabanditt604]

Nobody's talking about the heavily proposed state of Greater Idaho, consisting of eastern Oregon, south of Eugene and Salem, and also northern California, this was proposed first by Eastern Oregonians because they have much more right ideals then salem, Portland, Eugene, Bend, along with almost every city that has a population over around 20k and you have to understand that Eastern Oregon is practically it's own state just because we're so divided.

[@ffrreeddyy123456]

Yesss I love this!! Rep💛OR. Wish it was all still Oregon Country.

[@samuelefesoa7317]

Project Wingman is a game that explores such a scenario. You gotta check it out.

[@bluestacks8227]

While i dont know how well this would go if it were to I would support it and move back to washington as soon as possible

[@bluestacks8227]

also i prefer the oregon washington and british columbia border becasue idaho and whoming would ruin the whole deal

[@ivanoffw]

As someone who lives in the region, anywhere south of the Willamette Valley would not want to be a part of Cascadia, and no one east of the Cascade range would want to be a part of Cascadia either. I bet that people who live north of the valley that Vancouver B.C. would want to be a part of Cascadia either, so politically, Cascadia would be a much smaller area than the two options mentioned. I suppose that including the entire Columbia River drainage basin would be an important thing for Cascadia to feel safe, protecting the water resource.

[@cambridgeh.lutece6658]

You should do a video on the movement of Greater Idaho, in which Eastern Oregon, the more conservative parts, want to become part of Idaho, or their own state.

[@kaziirfan5757]

There should be more countries in north america!

[@uniquely.mediocre1865]

I like to believe that the northern California would be included, like the coastal, Klamath, and obviously cascade ranges. Also if this were to happen I could imagine further state division like splitting Oregon, Washington, and BC into east and west to make it fair representation for the more conservative people

[@irkiIIer]

when the big one hits were not responsible for you

[@ItzxC4]

Ree's in the lack of Tacoma mention.

[@skyrrmish868]

Dude he mentioned Medford who cares about fricking Medford I’m from OR and Medford sucks ass

[@makkapakka2462]

I would defintely think that Victoria could be the capital of Cascadia due to its centralness and easy access without any obstacles in its way ,though there can in 50% chance could be three capitals based on geographic difference (Juneau as a northern capital, Victoria as a central and main capital and Portland as a Sourthern capital)

[@3838COTB]

Nah it would probably be Olympia

[@GreenWhaIe]

1,837 ac

[@paulberry2884]

I just can't see the population of liberal cities like Vancouver, Seattle and Portland allying with the conservative rural population of Oregon, Alaska and parts of Washington. If it did become a nation would soccer be the national sport?

[@nickerbottom6983]

How you going to mention Bellingham before Vancouver washington?

[@altaloma7789]

It is quite understandable why Cascadia would desire to become independent of the US. California has the same feelings, as they are governed by a federal system that gives more power and control to the eastern part of the country, and because the eastern part of the country has chronic problems that the west coast wants nothing to do with. But to secede from the US is problematic because they will never free their cash cow. It is possible, however, for Cascadia and California to become more independent within the US, primarily by establishing similar agencies and departments that mirror those of the US federal government. Establishment of foreign relations would also be possible, though non-binding. Good luck to both.

[@KingLarbear]

It would be nice if we added that to America to connect Alaska.

[@furtfurt]

Our national anthem would Nirvana's Smells Like Teen spirit and our mascot would be a scroungy homeless panhandler

[@Arikian]

I live in Idaho and I'd be down, though we're kinda the odd child out

[@Simon-tc1mc]

I think it's borders would just be the western half of Oregon, Washington, and BC.

[@JimmiAlli]

Victoria would be a great Capital.

[@ghostrider-be9ek]

The movement applies only really to the first 300km from the pacific - once you get away from the big cities, people want to be left alone with little laws or big government. Side note, the telluric currents in North America flow S-N

[@KingLarbear]

FBI enters chat

[@rosereaper188]

If Cascadia becomes a country and then California joins them than California would be carrying Cascadia in economy and population

[@doug814]

You mean an autonomous zone?

[@TabooRevolution13]

The neutral zone.