What If England Conquered France In The 100 Years War? | Alternate History

What if the Kingdom of England had succeeded in conquering and annexing the Kingdom of France into a united Anglo-French Empire under the leadership of King Henry V during the century sprawling conflict known to history as the Hundred Years War? How would this unified French and English dual monarchy work? And how would this effect the rest of Europe and the world?
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[@johnburns9634]

I'm surprised you mentioned protestantism without going into the whys of Anglicanism. King Henry VIII was the second son of King Henry VII, who only came to the throne after the rise of the Yorkists in the Wars of the Roses. With Henry V's lack of dying young, being the main catalyst for Henry V ascending to the throne of France and his dynasty being established as the King of both England and France, the Yorkists wouldn't have had the same influence on the English crown. Also with the continued life of Henry V, his son Henry VI in our timeline, might have been supplanted by a younger brother either legitimate or not. Since the Lancastrian line is stronger, The Tudor line might not ever be established. While there might be a Henry VIII, he wouldn't be the same as the one from OUR timeline. and his marriage might produce many male children and the Anglican Church might not have started when it did. How this would effect France and Western Europe, is anyone's guess. Perhaps the Reformation splits 'Holy Roman Empire' and it's still aided by Finland, Denmark and Sweden. Maybe the various groups could work together (England, Netherlands, France) (Italy, Catholic Spain, Catholic Holy Roman Empire) and (Sweden, Finland, Protestant Holy Roman Empire) in blocks that keep a kind of balance of power. I'm unsure how this would effect the 'Great Northern War." As to where Austria would stand in all of this? I do not know. Plus, does Napoleon ever come to power? Only the fates know.

[@Pebble3007]

@@johnburns9634 Agreed OTL Hnery VI and his poor mental health might have been seen early. Henry might of with tact secured a younger son, with Henry VI going into the church (as the Archbishop of York, prestigious and out of the way) and setting up a great Northern University town. No Kings College being built in Cambridge.

[@mehmeh1234]

Hey monsieur Z can you make alternative history video of Frisia Winning Holland-Frisian Wars and retaking west Frisia/Holland

[@shzarmai]

@Monsieur Z, What Economic effects would this alternate history scenario have?

[@Warrior-Of-Virtue]

If the American Revolution still happens in this timeline, I could see the Americans seeking aid from the Hapsburgs. This could lead to strong diplomatic ties between the young U.S. and the German States. Assuming said relations never sour, then it could lead to the U.S. joining the Central Powers, assuming WW1 still happens.

[@RickyBirdhouse40]

What if Louis XVI, his court, and a bunch of loyalists left France during the revolution and established the Kingdom of Louisiana in America

[@brandonbonett6416]

Ahh yes... The world famous monarchist maneuver that I call "The Dominion of Canada"

[@metelicgunz146]

They probably would have gotten manifest destinyed

[@gorge2786]

I reckon they would’ve been Texas’d, where the small French population is assimilated by the much closer and much stronger Anglo-American one, although I doubt the USA would look anything similar to OTL’s America, especially because they never had to deal with another ancient monarchy (who would be supported by Britain and their holiday to DC in 1814) after Britain lost interest in exploiting them.

[@d3hro641]

@@gorge2786 just that general area would most likely be even more french like i bet if they got Texas'd later on.

[@victorrenevaldiviasoto9728]

What if the spanish courts escaped to New Spain

[@thendarkendwolf8796]

France: Wait, it’s all just England? England: Always has been. *pulls out gun*

[@bewisoffical]

You mean *Unlicensed butter knife*

[@thefrenchareharlequins2743]

@@bewisoffical more like *unlicensed bicycle wheel!*

[@manspider4323]

@@bewisoffical *automatic assault weapon AKA butter knife

[@brianwalsh9595]

You mean the kitchen knife

[@malaysianmapping9767]

Reality England: always has been France: UNO reverse card 1700s UK: takes France'sUNO reverse card

[@jimtalbott9535]

I've seen this mod - it's called "Divergences of Darkness" in Victoria 2. :P

[@archdornan3068]

Might try it out

[@everything1023]

Ah yes. A man of culture.

[@iamkulit1cs735]

Problem is, that also includes the duke of Burgundy surviving.

[@jimtalbott9535]

@@iamkulit1cs735 True! It incorporates several timeline changes, including this. Burgundy survives, Chinese colonization occurred in Australia, N. American West Coast, and Scandinavia/Scotland are unified and also colonized N. America, just to name a few differences from OTL. It’s a blast to play, especially when you’re into history.

[@ivanlozano2019]

Vic 3

[@gyorkshire257]

Realistically speaking, a united France and England speaks French not English. The collapse of the French language in England didn't happen till after the loss of the French possessions. At the time of Henry V, the courts still used French as did parliament. With stronger contact with France, and the king spending much of his time over there, we see French strengthening its position in England.

[@qgqsrg1]

plus the upper aristocracy and royals would rule from the much richer France, as they did before they lost most their lands in France the first time.

[@purpledevilr7463]

I’d like to see a “what if the Habsburgs and king Henry’s daughter married, uniting Western Europe under one dynasty and creating a more grand, pseudo-Roman empire”

[@gorge2786]

Which Henry? There was 8 of them in England alone, never mind France, Germany or elsewhere

[@purpledevilr7463]

@@gorge2786 6 wives Henry. King Henry the 8th, the one who had an alliance with the Habsburgs who promised him the French throne but was the betrayed when they could’ve stayed allies and went on with the marriage as all his other children would die so the throne would fall to her then their their heir thus uniting all thrones.

[@redshuttleredacted6422]

@@purpledevilr7463 Holy Western Roman Empire Electric Boogaloooo

[@purpledevilr7463]

@@redshuttleredacted6422 exactly.

[@purpledevilr7463]

@Martin Casinillo if Henry did keep the alliance then he even if he did separate the church his daughter or subsequent grandchild would’ve definitely been catholic due to the Habsburgs. They would’ve probably stayed catholic as it took time to convert many. perhaps Protestantism becomes a divide between the Habsburg and non-Habsburg Christian world.

[@Kai555100]

I honestly doubt that the english would impose english as the offical language of France, english was still seen as the language of the english peasentry and french that of the nobility

[@whitephoenixofthecrown2099]

English was made the official language under Edward III so by Henry IV they would do it.

[@Kai555100]

@@whitephoenixofthecrown2099 Not really Edward III Made english the language of the legal courts but at court people still spoke French and french was most likly His First language and his court and most Parlaments he called were in French Additionally the plantagenets/Lancasters would want to focuse their Energy on their larger and more prosperous Kingdom which would be France (which is what happened everytime a Family from a smaller Country took over), additionally the english Kings b4 the war of the Roses shouldn't be seen as english Kings with french holdings but rather as French nobles who happened to be english kings

[@Squaretable22]

Honestly as much as this is a de jure victory for england, all it would mean for the English people is being subsumed into a larger kingdom which wouldn't necessarily have their best interests in mind

[@whitephoenixofthecrown2099]

@@Squaretable22 there was never a realistic possibility that Henry V could take ALL of France. If he survived longer the North would be like Ireland, a region to establish settlement and the South would gradually evolve into a separate nation state.

[@Squaretable22]

@@whitephoenixofthecrown2099 well this is an assumption that he does do so on large part, as in the way this timeline is presented. If the French were a peripheral minority as only Normandy and Aquitaine were controlled ofc the situation would be different.

[@manateemanatee-eb6kn]

This gives a whole new meaning to Franco-British Union.

[@TheSkyGuy77]

British Empire Now with extra French

[@smazelsp6423]

Or Anglo-French Union

[@olympia5758]

I like France more.

[@TheSkyGuy77]

The Hundred Years Consolidation

[@oppionatedindividual8256]

@@smazelsp6423 the Franco-British Union was an actual concept many times in history, including WW2, your addition is inane.

[@njb1126]

What if James bissonette was never rich enough to fund history?

[@sapphoschild3019]

Unrealistic

[@njb1126]

@@sapphoschild3019 yeah I guess there are some scenarios that would never pan out

[@electroskylightgaming4085]

No History Matters references allowed

[@JayanthSahasranamamula]

Kelly Moneymaker would do his job instead.

[@thatoneduck3875]

@@JayanthSahasranamamula im so used to hearing those 2 named together

[@ivanf.482]

Damn that flag's gorgeous

[@ffhuii779]

I would say the same for your pfp if that syndicalism shifted towards nationalism

[@spaniardmapper1427]

What if the kingdoms of Northern Iberia lost the Reconquista

[@archdornan3068]

Oh that’s a interesting idea it would change world history complete

[@ronjayrose9706]

An Ottoman like Iberia

[@theebs1]

Muslim spanish empire??? based?

[@augustus_lex6126]

@@theebs1 nope

[@Litany_of_Fury]

The Islamic powers of Iberia would focus inwards to hold onto their positions as any incursion into France would be met with long lasting resistance. This really does delay the inevitable with the popes calling crusades into Iberia which would maintain the culture of crusade for centuries more leading to many foreign European nobles claiming hegemony over the local Iberian cultures. Islamic Iberia would have no reason to look to the New World as they would have open ports to the east. The Spanish culture would never come about and many pygmy states could be made of Iberia, much like the Holy Roman Empire or pre 100years war France. When the new world is found there is no massive Spanish colonial empire, but instead many smaller states and perhaps even crusades into Aztec territory. I could very much see a Spain like entity forming during the age of revolutions and nationalism.

[@Monosekist]

Ah yes, the United Kingdom of England and France.

[@Adil_Turysbek_TVRC]

Angevin Empire is more preferable.

[@matthiuskoenig3378]

@@Adil_Turysbek_TVRC *Greater Normandy

[@kaihiggins725]

@@Adil_Turysbek_TVRC Angevin Empire is not really an empire. The term was given during the peak of the British Empire. If you look at what is needed to be classed as an Empire the Angevin's didn't have an Empire but territories

[@Goblinsharkhundredsofthem]

Angevin empire probably wouldn't be used beacuse of the complex nature of the name empire. If we were going to give the nation a name it would something like the united kingdom of England, Scotland, and france

[@kaihiggins725]

@@Goblinsharkhundredsofthem it wasn't an empire. It only gained that name by British Historians during the peak of our own empire

[@Obnoxiousteadrinker]

What if the anglo Saxons won 1066

[@virtueleague2005]

It's a shame that arent that many scenarios with this.

[@Obnoxiousteadrinker]

@@virtueleague2005 indeed I would live to see what my people could be like if we had no French influence

[@T_Dun]

When's the next Greymarch?

[@ommsterlitz1805]

Well english woudn( be an easier version of French but a language more like welsh

[@constantinethecataphract5949]

@@ommsterlitz1805 welsh has no resemblance to any form of english since welsh is Celtic while English is Germanic. English would be like frisian with viking influence

[@jessicaokeke4168]

If your wondering it's his real voice

[@celestialweaver8460]

That made me chuckle🤣🤣

[@ionryful]

What!?!? REALLY!?!?

[@celestialweaver8460]

@@ionryful no, it's another guy xD

[@basedmongoloid2278]

What if the Mongols conquered Europe?

[@toxicsaint3545]

Good idea

[@rokball4892]

Then will happen the same thing in China and Korea. I’m talking about the nationalistic uprising.

[@rokball4892]

And also What if Mongols succeed to invade Japan.

[@AeneasGemini]

It's not impossible, but it is unlikely. It would take more than one factor to change to make that happen.

[@AeneasGemini]

@@rokball4892 It would likely have resulted in a separate Mongol Dynasty that would eventually adopt Japanese culture. In the same way that Kublai Khan and his family adopted Chinese culture and became the Yuan Dynasty. I imagine it might've changed much of Asian history if Japan and China had a shared heritage

[@SAVAGE-oe3fg]

Please make more videos on the boers -Maritz rebellion is successful -Hertzog creates a boer confederation -Dengaan gives the voortrekkers natalie

[@chillaxo9863]

Too insignificant

[@mcallisterwill]

In this timeline I wonder, the English nobility may never have switched over to speaking English as a first language. I presume that early Plantagenets like Richard I and John who spoke only French considered themselves to be French and didn't feel like they were a foreign occupier in France (albeit using a lot of English soldiers) and English identity as a nation state only really developed after the nobility gave up their notions of being French. In this era the population of England was far less than that of France and so arguably if the Plantagenets were able to take over the whole of France, they would quickly revert to full 'Frenchness' relocate their court to Paris and it people would view it as a French king ruling over England rather than an English king ruling over France. You could make comparisons with the way that when the Stuarts inherited the English throne it certainly didn't result in Scottish dominion over England, likewise when Charles king of Burgundy inherited Spain, it was the Netherlands that became a Spanish posession not the other way around. The eventual outcome may have been a very different British Isles to the one we know today, with England winning independence from France around the time in our timeline that the Dutch won independence from Spain, perhaps as a republic.

[@akiraraiku]

Given the decay the english language was in, we could really see an almost complete diseapearance of english in the bourgeois and even the urban population of the middle class. If the english economy and culture was more connected to France after the unification we could see a mergure of the affluent classes. If, which is a big if, this union lasted until the printing press with ongoing francisation of england, or at least the upper classes and big cities. French material written by the nobility and upper classes would flood english lower classes and propably make them use french as their language.

[@princevesperal]

@@akiraraiku Then arguably all of North America would speak French, and it would still be the dominant language of trade and international relations!

[@deron2203]

@@princevesperal glad we're not in that timeline then sounds cursed as hell

[@princevesperal]

@@deron2203 It's the current timeline that's cursed.

[@shawnv123]

french identity wasn’t even a thing until the 1790s

[@Perrirodan1]

I think you really got it wrong thinking that Henry V would impose English language in France. He only let English become more important because he had more land in England. With all the French land things are different. The population of France was more than 12 millions while that of England only 4. English was seen as a language of peasant so I don't see it being popular. With the power of the french nobles due to the land being more rich, the French part would always be more favoured. English nationalist don't realize that the only way they could "win" the 100 year war was by loosing it. Had the Anglo Norman won, the influx of French influence would have increased even more. The best that could happen for them is for a secession to occur, the worst is that the English language disapear like the Irish one did in our timeline.

[@bigbobwalker5527]

that would be coo brother maybe in that world in the future we could get a French speaking version of Merica!

[@Chrysobubulle]

Its funny he got that so wrong. The reason the English kings were fighting to become also king of France is because they saw themselves as french until they realized they would never be able to reign over France. French was the de facto lingua franca of the time, while english was considered a rudimentary uncultured language. The Anglo-French kings would have probably reigned from Paris and not London. Everything would have been different. Including the part about the reform. Very probable that the reformation would have been fought hard in english territories with a catholic king reigning from France

[@achistorian6978]

What if The Roman Empire collapsed during the third century crisis ?

[@thorpeaaron1110]

Roman generals would consolidate their strongholds creating their own kingdoms becoming warlords similar to what happened in China after the fall of the Qing Dynasty

[@archdornan3068]

@@thorpeaaron1110 the empire of Aurelian

[@sanaddaoud6541]

The Gallic Empire would most likely collapse and be replaced by Germanic kingdoms, the Palmyrene Empire will remain and be in a constant state of war with the Sassanid Empire, much like the Eastern Roman Empire, Christianity will spread much slower, making Roman/Hellenistic Paganism remain as the main religion, and as @EBONIE THORPE wrote, the empire will be split with competing generals taking whatever they can.

[@TheCowardRobertFord]

@@sanaddaoud6541 If Christianity doesn't spread, or spreads much slower, there's a very decent chance there's no Islam at all.

[@sanaddaoud6541]

@@TheCowardRobertFord good point, going to edit my comment now

[@shanepond7063]

Fantastic to see you dive into the complex and inter tangled web of medevil France and England you should do one about 'What if the Norman Conquest of England failed?" it would be a great counterpart to this video.

[@historydude6022]

Well then Vikings would have siezied England

[@LuisBrito-ly1ko]

@@historydude6022 No. By 1066 the Viking age was over. Norway also lost to the English right before William’s attack, so...

[@historydude6022]

@@LuisBrito-ly1ko look at the invasion by Harland the 3

[@monarchblue4280]

All dislikes are from Joan of Arc and her soldiers.

[@Durahan82]

Or the Knights of Angevin Empire .

[@emolohtrab3468]

I'm french, and I like this, but i'm for Jeanne d'Arc uhu

[@user-kt8yp5ho2y]

I want to see the new chapters of Scar Nicholas the second! :D

[@imahuman6880]

Scar Nicholas was such a chad! More chapter, a whole Series of it would be awesome

[@user-kt8yp5ho2y]

@@imahuman6880 Yeah I know right! That story was so great! I wish he writes a book about that story. :) :D

[@MonsieurDean]

They'll come in due time.

[@user-kt8yp5ho2y]

@@MonsieurDean Oh really??!! Thank you so much! And I’d like you to write a book too. XD

[@kiwidotempo1858]

What if the Empire of Brazil surived, as a Brazilian i think i think think this would be a quite interesting alternate history, since how the Empire days of Brazil were and how everything screwed up when the Republic happened

[@Shusiareed]

Scenarios for future Videos: - What if Frederick the Great and Maria Theresia married (maybe with the extra that these two had also a son who inheritated prussia and austria and Title of holy roman emperor)? - What if Germany was unified with prussias greater german solution? - What if Prussia splitted up Austria after the German war and annexed all Habsburg lands into the new german empire? - What if germany backstabed Austria hungary with their war with serbia? - What if the 30 years war never happend? - What if America/the USA became a Monarchie, under Fredericks brothers, after their independence? - What if the Confederacy took over the whole USA and implemented slavery in the north? - What if Germany became communist after ww1? - What if the Qing Empire never fall/never was pushed around by the european powers (Opium wars n stuff)/never lost territory to russia, japan and the europeans - What if Belgium, Netherlands, Luxemberg and Switzerland became Part of the german empire (maybe a Greater German Empire Version with Austria, Bohemia, South Tyrol, Slovenia and Istria+ Switzerland and the Low-Countries)? - What if germany formed earlier like france and britain, maybe due a sucessfull Roman conquest of germania or out of east frankia? - What if Maria Theresias father had a son? - What if the spanish Habsburg never died out? -What if the HRE was able to hold nothern Italy? - What if Catholic christianity never gain influence and was replaced by Orthodox christianity? - What if the jews instead of the Christians became dominant in europe? - What if the US colonized the whole american continent (North and South) - What if Germany kept their Alliance with Russia? - What if an German royal House was on the Russian throne (Like in Britain) - What if Russia was able to colonize further into North America and was able to develope the Region? - What if Luxemburg didn't lost Bohemia? - What if imperial china never fell/ was able to colonize and westernize (Qing on it's largest extent) and so werr able to rival europa and japan/was able to hold them out of their sphere and never lost any territory at all, maybe where also able to grow - What if the Dual Empire between France and Germany happened? Thats a short scenario i saw on reddit. The scenario is like this: A french phyrrhic victory in the battle of Leipzig lead to a Hohenzoller-Bonaparte Alliance. - What if the catholics won the 30 years war? - What if the Netherlands lost their revolution? - What if there was never a spanish Austrian Habsburg split? - What if the Bonapartes never took over spain? - What if no european power outside the HRE got involved in the 30 years war? - What if there was never the free and slave state system, instead slavery in all US States? - What if the Lands of Preußen and Pommerian got inherited by the Habsburgs? - What if Karl V never split up his lands between his brother and his son, instead giving Austria, Spain and the HRE to his son? - What if then Yuan Dynasty never fell/ stayed in power until the time where the Qing Dynasty took over? - What if the Bourbons or the Kapetinger became the dominant Emperor family in the HRE? - What if Ludwig XIV or Franz I became Holy roman emperor?

[@candidia9064]

Very interesting senario, I hope you keep giving us those nicely written videos. Just one detail regarding the cultural dominance of english language in France, it would be nearly impossible, just has to see english colonies in France. France was at that time the most populated kingdom in Europe, it would mostly be the other way around. And you seem to forgot the strong power the french vassals used to old over their king. Threatened by those strong vassals, Henri V have to adapt to the french culture or to build a sort of syncretism between the two culture if he wanted to tame them, creating an anglo-french culture, just has William did in England when he conquered it and created a new culture, part saxon and part norman.

[@akhmalamaluddin8649]

I believe the possibility of Henry V taking all of France would be very low. A collapse of Valois France would probably trigger peripheral states taking slices of the pie. With all eyes on Burgundy, as their ruling family is an offshoot of the French aristocracy (and royalty if I’m right). Plus, unruly French nobles who are deeply entrenched with vast estates coupled with post-Magna Carta english nobles, we might see constitutional monarchy develop faster. Thus the King of England-France isn’t stronger per se, but they rule a stronger state. England being a maritime state would also diverge, as having continental possessions would require significant land focus. As well as the maintenance of a large army, which is a sensitive issue for English politics. Nobles fear resurgence of monarchical power. Culturally, I’m pretty sure the English kings would shift their realm to be French centric. France was more centralized with a strong administrative infrastructure. Allowing for better revenue collection and exercise of royal power. Ironically England’s union with France could be the death blow to the rise of English national identity. As the gravity of the Union would be in Paris, as France would hold the economic and population cards of the Union. The settling of English communities is plausible but would not have much effect. France was more populous. Unless England itself has a pop boom. And english colonization of France might just set off a new range of wars of French nationalism. Overall, great video but a bit too optimistic.

[@gorge2786]

Glad to see you agreed with Thomo Talks on his interpretation of the “French Civil War” Got a lot of replies on this saying that the normans weren’t French, or that because the nobility had anglosaxon admixture it can’t be a civil war if you want my response in short read ahead, or go watch the video I mentioned kzbin.info/www/bejne/jWbPZ6KDo7NpqcU aside from the fact that both of the points made by Red, while in some cases stunningly inaccurate, mostly irrelevant, the English kings were dukes of Gascony, which made them vassals of the French kings, and the cause for war was a reaction against the centralising French Crown and the strong nobility. The dukes of burgundy, counts of Toulouse, and the most famous, the dukes of Aquitaine, also known as the king of England. Edit 2: just to reinforce the point that the kings of England (at least until the Lancastrian phase of the war) were really more “French” than English, and certainly cared more about their French domains, the tax revenue for the entire kingdom of England, was in 1312 a whole 3rd of what was brought in from Aquitaine alone, never mind Normandy, Anjou, the Loire valley, Brittany and other territories who viewed the dukes of Aquitaine as more worthy of support than the kings in France.

[@Red-hh7dm]

but the English aren't French

[@romeodarcq6132]

@@Red-hh7dm it wasn't really english

[@Red-hh7dm]

@@romeodarcq6132 yes it was. it just wasn't anglo-saxon any more, just anglo-norman, but still English

[@romeodarcq6132]

@@Red-hh7dm not the nobility, the nobility of England was mainly French, and it was the war of the nobles, who's gonna have the legacy of the kingdom of France ? The Valois have won

[@Red-hh7dm]

@@romeodarcq6132 no it wasn't they were direct Norman ancestors with English admixture which is literally the while point of the phrase "anglo-norman"

[@javierperalta7648]

England would become a part of France, because France was by far much bigger and more important back then(population was like 3 times that of England). Eventually the English Kings would rule from Paris and the two kingdoms would become one, like what happened with England and Scotland

[@javierperalta7648]

In case you did not know, it was the King of Scotland who inherited England, not the other way round. But England was much more important so in the end Scotland got annexed by England.

[@TrueWeej]

This is likely my favourite alternate history discussion I think I’ve ever heard. Really great topic. You did really well condensing it to the most salient points. The can of worms this opens is worthy of an hour long video. Bravo really great food for thought. 👏🏻👏🏻👌🏻👍🏻

[@Hello-el4ft]

The quality of the thumbnails are getting much better great vid btw

[@Caveman05256]

Ive been waiting for this one, good stuff

[@noeticjustice1535]

For this period of Franco-English history, if you're focusing on these two factions exclusively, I find it helpful to refer to the French as the Continentals.

[@aegonii8471]

A war between the British/French Plantagenet empire and the German/Spanish Hapsburg empire would be devastating.

[@elbentos7803]

considering colonial rivalry, you can name it WW0.

[@lemminggamez5794]

This needs re-posting with the title "if the English didn't get tired of squashing frogs"

[@nicolas.p331]

The English got crushed at Castillon, don't act like they just left.

[@lemminggamez5794]

@@nicolas.p331 If you couldn't tell by the bias and stereotyping it was a joke. However, we did do incredibly well considering they had 3x the population, however that factor alone means we wouldn't have maintained control for very long even if we did win.

[@TheOverLORDFF]

"William the Conqueror" proceeds to show Harold Godswinson.

[@theredtechnician]

History: The Good Ending

[@lostcookies]

Angry French, American, Indian, Danish, Spanish, and every other country who has hated England at some point noises

[@TheGirard62]

@@lostcookies well, this union would lead most likely to the centralisation of political power in france, leading to a greater french influence over england since france was at that time 6 time more populated than england, so, tbh, no french noise here, that would lead most likely france to a dominant position in the world for a longer time

[@stephenroney3630]

@@lostcookies Don't forget Scotland?

[@malaysianmapping9767]

@@lostcookies Angry China that has been stuffed with opium by Britain

[@GG-we5zy]

@@stephenroney3630 why does Scotland hate England

[@trevorbeaverfan]

I have a couple of suggestions. What if these countries became communist: Malaysia, Thailand, Indonesia, Singapore, Kenya, Chile, Philippines, Costa Rica, Guatamela, Paraguay and the Dominican Republic? What if the Mensheviks won? Thank you!

[@josecarpinteiro4221]

Do a video called what if Portugal won the battle of Alcacer-Quibir, I love your work

[@jdoc3118]

What if the greek revolution of 1821 revived Byzantium (as was originally intended ) as a pan-balkan state .

[@B4llingKitten43]

Im a modern history guy so hearing about how Isabella II betrayed her husband George I for a baron named Ivor the Great therefore leaving her nephew Carl IX in charge but he died therefore moving rule to the french ally Bob VI making a super state that quickly fell the his father Frederick III murdered him... Is a lot to take in

[@Alfred_Leonhart]

I want to see an alternate history where Edgar Ætheling was able to take back the throne from William or his descendents.

[@runnerduck4844]

Thank you! Great video!

[@joseyamama]

What if Germany United Wayyyyyy Earlier like the Uk and France and see how civilization develops

[@AeneasGemini]

You mean if the Holy Roman Empire had actually become a proper nation? Well the other two nations you mentioned would have serious problems. Given their shared cultural heritage I actually see it likely that England and France would ally against THRE

[@joseyamama]

AeneasGemini Yea Lol

[@kinsou3865]

@@AeneasGemini france created germany

[@scott2452]

It probably would have been worth considering the influence this United Kingdom of England & France would have had over the Papacy (especially considering how much France had by itself) Rather than competing with a Hapsburg HRE this new state would have had the influence & funds to sway the electors to become Emperor (especially if it had Papal support). The Crusade of Varna would likely have ended very differently with the support of Western Europe helping Wladyslaw III… this would curtail Ottoman expansion and potentially create a resurgent (Frankish dominated) Byzantine Empire.

[@mr.patriotjol]

Can you do what if the fire nation won the 100 year war?!?

[@JL-ti3us]

This wasnt inspired by the new Edward the III and Burgundian John the Fearless and Philip the Good campaigns in Aoe2 was it?

[@robej2517]

Good video idea

[@toxicsaint3545]

What if the catholic and Habsburg won the 30 years war

[@stanleyt.7930]

As France was by far the most populous state, the capital would have moved to Paris, and England would have lost its identity and the English language died out. It was lucky for England that they lost the hundred years war. While France and the Habsburgs had to spend a fortune on standing armies to squabble over a few acres of Belgium, the Royal Navy could quietly conquer most of the rest of the world.

[@godemperorofmankind3.091]

why is it lucky? ok sure their culture and language would be different but no evidence it would be worse

[@algernonilfracombe]

Last time I was this early, Falstaff was in charge.

[@savagedarksider5934]

What if Edward VI had lived ? What if Crown Prince Rudolf had lived ? What if Habsburgs had "annexed Japan and England? " What if the Soviet Union joined the Axis Powers ? What if Mary I had given birth to A heir ? What if Otto Von Habsburg had married Queen Elizabeth II ? What if Russia and America had joined the Central Powers ? What if Franz Josef had married Helene ? What if Arthur Tudor had lived ?

[@kamanashiskar9203]

If Edward VI, and he didn't have any children and nor did his siblings, his cousin, Jane Grey would've become the next Queen of England. The Habsburgs could've annexed England but annexing Japan was next to impossible. But let's say they do. If they did, the Habsburg Empire would've been a major player in the Asia-Pacific, most likely rivalling the Chinese and maybe the Indian empires. If the USSR was still in the Axis power the Allies would've lost the war or won with much greater casualties. If Queen Mary I of England gave birth to an heir, they would've been the next ruler of England and most likely Queen Elizabeth I being executed. Also, England would've been incorporated into the Habsburg Empire after Mary I died.

[@arcty1293]

Those Habsburg chins tho 😂 😂

[@user-kt8yp5ho2y]

France's religion in this AU: Anglican Church or Catholic Church.

[@gorge2786]

No need for Henry VIII to split with Rome because he really is an equal to the kings of France and Spain, however Anglicanism, never mind the reformation as a whole would likely be changed entirely

[@duo496]

Anglatholic

[@kamanashiskar9203]

The new kingdom would've most likely remained catholic.

[@thefrenchareharlequins2743]

@@gorge2786 Would Henry VIII ever have come to power though? Would the Wars of the Roses ever have happened since the nobility would've gotten their French lands?

[@elbentos7803]

Just call it Anglo-Gallican (or Gallo-Anglican) Church.

[@joedain7320]

"genetic predisposition to protestantism"

[@moonshinei]

@@hillaryclintondidnothingwrong that's why we watch him

[@KameroonEmperor]

Most unbelievably Dumb thing I heard in a while since "was armenia doesn't exist" and "covid is fake"

[@KameroonEmperor]

@@moonshinei no

[@jamesbhollingsworth5452]

Lol, seethe.

[@supahnubz]

@@KameroonEmperor What's so dumb about certain groups of people being genetically predisposed to certain ideas and behaviours?

[@unlapras9365]

The Hundred Year War was mostly a civil war between French nobles rather than a conflict between two nation-states as we like to depict it today. If the English had won it's likely that the kings would have settled in Paris. Paradoxically, had England won, it would probably have become France's backyard, a mere colony of the mainland. Sooner or later, I bet it's actually England which would have fought for its independence.

[@bbrovers2565]

Could you maybe do an alternate timeline where Alexander Hamilton wasn’t shot by burr in the duel

[@FelipeBMota]

Bad ending, everyone is english

[@Newbmann]

Comparing whatifalthists video to this one is something I kinda didn't expect to be so different.

[@thefrenchareharlequins2743]

Still confused about why England would ever conquer rowdy mountain dwellers.

[@Newbmann]

@@thefrenchareharlequins2743 the reason why he said England would not conquer Scotland is why invest in conquering Scotland which are great fighters when there much richer Dutch and Italian land right on the French border. Overall a cost vs reward argument but yeah He kinda ignored a pride of monarchs is sometimes all you need and the strategic element close out the norther flank would be a good idea.

[@thefrenchareharlequins2743]

@@Newbmann To be fair we are great fighters. We were still beating the redcoats when they were armed with muskets with the Highland Charge! Until the the Duke of Cumberland got their shit together, that is.

[@Newbmann]

@@thefrenchareharlequins2743 and how good are the Italians at fighting. Great contrast.

[@mortisoperandi4625]

What if England had won the 116 years, 4 months, 3 weeks and 4 days War..We'd all be spaeking a French dialect today...something derived/akin to the Langue d'Oïl..

[@benjaminobienu5297]

What if the Holy Roman Empire had invaded England? Would the Hapsburgs consider conquering England with justifiable reasons? Anyways this great what-if video about What If England Won The 100 Years War. This a really great video Mr. Z, keep up the good work!!

[@baconator2427]

What if the pope called a crusader to liberate Byzantium after the Turk conquest of the city, does that mean the most *epic* crossover between Orthodox and Catholics even more than Endgame?

[@thethunderchieftain5464]

The Kings and Princes of the West did not respond to Byzantium's call during the siege of Constantinople,aside from 1000 mercenaries. Not to mention that the last crusade actually ended up sacking Constantinople and softening it up for the Ottomans. In other words,this Holy Crusade would fail,just like the one at Nicopole. During that time,the Ottomans had a professional army which was better trained and organized than most of Western Europe.

[@thethunderchieftain5464]

And all that without measuring that the Ottomans had thousands of soldiers to spare,way more than what the kings and princes of Western Europe could muster for a crusade.

[@Nothing-1w3]

its Dual Monarchy time boooyyys

[@plaguemontegue1537]

This is very unrealistic but can you do a video on a what if England, Whales & Scotland became states within the United States as a way to try and reform the British Empire.

[@James-sk4db]

Or what if CANZUK formed as a new superpower.

[@VViIIiam]

@La nova renaissance Something NOBODY in the UK wants.

[@unclesam5230]

What if the Saxons never invaded England during the 5th century?

[@crusader2112]

Oooh I like that Idea. I Second It.

[@unclesam5230]

@@crusader2112 thanks

[@crusader2112]

@@unclesam5230 No Problem man. Take Care. ✌🏻

[@teddyvalentine8688]

As a descendent of those Saxons, I'm interested in that scenario too

[@mbgal7758]

I’ve always wondered what would have happened if Henry V hadn’t got sick and died. Catherine of Valois would never have hooked up with Owen Tudor. England probably would have stayed Catholic. If they were still united in the 1700’s the American Revolution would have never happened and therefore the French Revolution wouldn’t have happened when it did either. So crazy

[@theodoretex1068]

What If Monsieur Z won the presidency in 2020?

[@joesteers5807]

When James Stuart succeeded to the English throne in 1603 it didn’t establish Scotland as the preeminent kingdom in the British Isles. England was larger and richer , so that became the primary title of the Stuart dynasty. Geo-politically it just made sense. If kings of England became kings of a fully conquered France it would be the same deal. The kingdom of France would become the Plantagenets primary title and Paris their new capital. England would probably go on to have a bit of an identity crisis as increasingly absolutist French style monarchs tried to rule England the same way as France. In fact even during Henry V’s ‘reign of glory’ Parliament was already sick to death of paying for French wars, they felt that these wars really bore no relevance to their lives and lands and that the newly conquered French territories should pay for the campaigns. English nobles would probably have rebelled and established a new dynasty on the throne 😂 again.. in some ways similar to what the Jacobites tried to do with restoring a Stuart to the throne. More than likely A powerful nobleman , like an Earl of Warwick or Duke Of Norfolk type figure would’ve roused the English populace of a restoration of English independence.

[@TrueWeej]

More on this subject please. Really great 👏🏻👏🏻

[@comradealex85]

Who's voice is this?! WHO IS IT!

[@BobbinMcferry]

Alternatehistoryhub has many voices.

[@imahuman6880]

@@BobbinMcferry Let’s hope not in his head ;)

[@MonsieurDean]

History Uncovered

[@spaniardmapper1427]

What if Carthage won against Rome

[@rokball4892]

Dovahatty: >:(

[@thorpeaaron1110]

All of Iberia,France,and Northern Italy would become apart the Carthaginian Empire while Southern Italy would be dominated by Greek colonies.The Persians would most likely conquer the Levant and the Middle East;Christianity would never become a world wide religion since Rome is defeated in this timeline it is a regional religion in the Middle East.Europe as a whole would remain Pagan

[@MonsieurDean]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/a5a0kmCDaJKFapY

[@paradox7358]

I do enjoy the maps, but they could do with a simple key. The colours are not always referenced.

[@augustuscaesar8287]

Ahh, Philip _Augustus_ ...a.k.a King Phillip II of France. What a Chad. I like Philip II more than Louis XIV. Fight me.

[@kinsou3865]

you right, but if you are really a chad you like more clovis

[@user-qg4bj6tx6b]

Austro-Hungarian naval flag : exists every single alt historian ever : 👀

[@venomknight7031]

One question What if Siberia became independent after the fall of the Soviet union

[@chaos4395]

it's too late in the timeline to even matter, like it would matter in the long run but for a video how do you expect him to predict the future?

[@bojarckhoosemanschnarf5851]

Probably would fail and barely modern. Barely anyone there except some Russians and some Inuit peoples. They have resources to sell, but no machinery to gather it. Harsh climate too. Countries around it would probably lay claim to it, eg china could claim outer manchuria claiming it was part of the quang dynasty. Russia would claim alot for materials which they sell today. Siberia would fail and scramble to make a stable government. This would fail too, as Siberia doesnt have routes or roads to most lands it holds. Most roads in it would be from small village or hamlet to small village or hamlet. Censuses would be terrible as there wouldn't be an accurate way to get too people as most villages are out in the middle of nowhere and inaccessible. Implementing things like healthcare and laws would also be quite useless due to this. I believe it would not have the resources or population to do anything, essentially becoming a state in which people live off of their own villages and farms.

[@bojarckhoosemanschnarf5851]

@La nova renaissance Qing dont be a grammar nazi

[@Alex-yy5wo]

Good almost afternoon

[@blurthelines8596]

Good afternoon.

[@deaddiva3076]

William the Conqueror was NORMAN and Normandy was reaaaally independent at his time.

[@redwaldcuthberting7195]

Regardless the Englisc still called the Normans 'Frencisc' ie Frenchish, and the Normans spoke a form of old French.

[@deaddiva3076]

@@redwaldcuthberting7195 so Australians are British because they speak English?

[@redwaldcuthberting7195]

@@deaddiva3076 No, I'm just saying the English called the Normans 'Frencisc.' Though at one time the 'Australians' were 'British.' Was an English person one thousand years ago British because they were born on the island Britain? No, as Bryttisc referred to Brittonic speakers/people back then. Kind of Ironic as Britons fled the Germanic incomers 'early English' and founded Brittany 'little Britain' yet there were Bretons in the Norman invasion.

[@kaihiggins725]

Ok I have four let me know what you guys think: What if Carthage had won the Punic Wars against Rome? What if Elizabeth I had married Ivan the Terrible (he offered to join the Russian Empire to the young British Empire)? What if China didn't destroy the legendary Treaure Fleet in 1525? What if Constantine XI succeeded in the defence of Constantinople?

[@ecksdee1637]

Then we wouldn't have the Middle Finger sign

[@manualfein9936]

I just remembered that, well shit that's a devastating loss.

[@thefrenchareharlequins2743]

Probably still would, since as far as I am aware, the French were cutting off the middle fingers long before they would've lost.

[@ecksdee1637]

@@thefrenchareharlequins2743 shut up dont ruin my joke

[@elbentos7803]

Correction : they wouldn't have the"V" fingers sign. The middle finger is still a phallic insult everywhere, the 100 Years War notwhistanding.

[@Thess-wm8ke]

13:00 "Possibly suggesting a genetic predisposition which had made the faith more favourable" Are you mad?

[@Andrew-pi7mz]

You had the last serious Welsh revolt in the 1400-1415 but all of Wales should be red, particularly as this glosses over that.

[@sgregg5257]

What would have happened? The government would be spending most of its time in France. France was richer, more populous, and large than England. English subjects, and elite, would begin to feel slighted by the increasingly French government, and there would probably be a civil war where the English would seek their independence, resulting in England and France being separate again. Or, and more probably, this would result in a combination of latent French royalists opposition, combining with England firsters, and being paid by Habsburg gold, to launch a civil war on the continent, allowing English lords to seize the island and crown a new king. Henry V would still be condemned to pass the crown on to his son, a man of very little ability, mental problems, etc. He would have been cast aside, and remaining in France, while his Anglo-French lords attempted to hold the line against resurgent French royalists. There was already a powerful proto state of Burgundy at the time of Henry V that aided and helped Henry. Eventually they would see that as an error,. The Valois dukes of that duchy were very well connected, rich, and had an army equal to (or better than) either the English or the French of that age. The Burgundian army was a pseudo professional army that was not as ad-hoc as either France or England. I can see a scenario where Charles the Bold, duke of Burgundy defeats the Anglo-french during the civil war, and aids the French royalists. He is a Valois prince in his own right. So he ends up becoming Charles 7th of France, while remaining duke of Burgundy. This rejoins France and Burgundy, but on Burgundian terms. In short Anglo-Francia, or whatever it would be called, would be a short lived and doomed enterprise.

[@jeremy1860]

My country's entire history after the Norman Conquest can pretty much be summed up with the word "yoink" 😅

[@topsdaily_productions]

This is a good video!

[@coderas4180]

What if Tito supported Stalin rather than be neutral during the Cold War?

[@dunbarconnor]

A Franco-British union should of happened makes me sad that it hasn't yet

[@TheZombiesReanimated]

Don't know the realism of it, but what if the East India Company became a sovereign nation. It was essentially the 1600s to 1800s equivalent of a mega-corporation that owned entire countries. It would have some pretty interesting implications if it survived as it was to modernity.

[@huntergray3985]

England was not "subjugated" to France; it was subjugated to Normandy. Vikings not Gauls.

[@tf2664]

interesting video

[@phirus02]

The video is very well made but I can't see english becoming a prominent language. France had multiple Times the population of England and the english Kings were as you said french nobles therefore ... I think France would become the principal kingdom of the two and therefore french language was more. Also the election to the Habsbourg throne between Charles Quint and Françoise the first was quite close and could have gone both ways so who knows 🤷‍♂️

[@ayanothedieingfish6533]

Why does the intro by the first person sound so robotic

[@tamasmarcuis4455]

The entire motivation of the English King was a demand not to pay taxes to the French state for lands in France. Normandy had been granted to Rollo as a duchy of France. Therefore it was part of France and tax was due to the French King. If the English King had any stategy in France it was to fragment the Kingdom after which any territories controlled by England would cease to pay taxes to France. Conquest of all France was never considered.

[@not_averge]

The hundred years war was not about england and france fighting for dominance in france, but rather the definition of what is french

[@zyanego3170]

What if Roman Britain survived?

[@wambutu7679]

A most logical breakpoint for this scenario.

[@BillMcSwain]

What if Germany never attacked its neighbors?

[@ANDREALEONE95]

What if Burgundy remains independent?

[@hunterprater6550]

What is Queen Mary of Scots inherited the English throne instead of being executed illegally

[@eidoneverchoosen1171]

Its likely the USA would win the American revolution with greater victories as Canada would not have a French population and side with the USA in the American revolution

[@cosmomari4669]

Victoria 2: Divergences of Darkness

[@alexflorea5795]

What if Frederick the Great married Maria Theresa of Austria?