What if Iran won the Iran-Iraq War?

[@possiblehistory]

Considering I did a more US politics video last week with the Iraq one, I decided to go with a focus on an (extreme) outcome on the ground here. Hope you enjoy!

[@Ghosty.maria7]

Love the video! It demonstrates how easily the middle east could've gone off the rails in the period

[@EANașirofficial]

IRAN NUMBER 1

[@EANașirofficial]

I LOVE IRAN 🇮🇷 ❤

[@EANașirofficial]

BEST VIDEO EVER!1!! keep it up man I love your videos ❤❤❤❤

[@bolivia_ihatethisyoutubeupdate]

5:32 Reagan won in 1980, not in 1982.

[@TherealMatthias1998]

What if Maria Theresa and Frederick the Great married, uniting the Habsburg and Hohenzollern dynasties and giving the Habsburgs about 150 years of MUCH better leadership

[@hmm8454]

Heresy of the highest order. That would require Fredrick to not be gay which defined a large amount of how he was raised. (also that means no Joseph the second)

[@EdwardMorgan-gf8bk]

How do I say this…

[@TherealMatthias1998]

@@hmm8454I never said they’d be in love lol. Was he at bare minimum bi? Absolutely. Probably gay? Yeah. I just find it an interesting what if lol

[@KartvelArca]

Wasnt fred gay?

[@Sadnessiuseless]

@@TherealMatthias1998 have children anyway you dont need to enjoy it since he was a royal and all

[@theshoe1391]

What if James bissonnet intervened in the war

[@Pardisc13895]

Wrong chanel bud😂

[@Unknown_nobody-p7b]

Bro got channels wrong 😅😅

[@stargazer-elite]

Possible history and history matters crossover when?

[@Emane899]

Depends on which side he funded

[@merengueatang4]

Well that would of course bring in Kelly Moneymaker, which would of course have major ripples across...

[@ayubk2638]

Iirc, in our timeline Iran almost invaded Taliban controlled Afghanistan. It would be interesting to see how this scenario would go

[@minestar2247]

Wait, when? Are you talking about last year or so? Cause the Taliban is the legitimate government of Afghanistan since the us helped take over

[@StephaneTheard]

@@minestar2247I think he is talking about the 1998 killing of Iranian diplomats in Afghanistan. Basically Iranian diplomats and journalists were killed by the Taliban, and this nearly started a war between them and Iran.

[@ariaspes3842]

iran would never invade afghanistan. you should read u s congress notes on iran's involvement with taliban and why taliban are in iran right now retraining lol

[@thesovietshark8945]

⁠@@ariaspes3842he’s talking about 1998 tho

[@HashShYT]

@@minestar2247 US didn’t help

[@indianajones4321]

Here are some things that could help produce an Iranian victory over Iraq: 1. If the superpower’s didn’t support Iraq due to Saddam’s genocide of the Kurds occurring earlier 2. If Iran didn’t purge their competent military 3. If the Israeli bombing of the Iraqi nuclear facility created a second front against Iraq 4. Iran didn’t take hostages during the Revolution to have a less hostile, but still bad relationship with the US 5. The Arab states that supported Iraq outright say it’s a loan and Saddam will have to pay back immediately, which further fractions Saddam’s relationship with the Arab world

[@knightofliberty9297]

6. Britain, to avenge the SAS soldiers who died during the Iranian embassy siege, starts supporting Iran

[@ПьерЛавальТВ]

About second point. I have a strong suspicion that if they didn't purge the military leaders, an anti-islamistic military coup would be imminent with possibility of the military actually accepting Saddam's demands as they were more interested in the restoration of monarchist pro-American regime rather than fighting the pointless war with Iraq (they don't need anything from Iraq, especially if Iraq is being a pro-American state)

[@minestar2247]

Most of the are unrealistic, like, israel intervening would cause support to go to whoever is at war with them(and they have no goal in having either win the war). And Iran not taking hostages is dumb, like, why wouldn't you take the hostages?

[@minestar2247]

And the Arab states would have made it a loan anyway, but only if Iraq won

[@minestar2247]

Also, I don't think the west would care about the Kurds if the got deleted by Iraq before the war, they don't care when it happens most of the time

[@CSquared11]

Alternate title: Iran Won

[@Unknown_nobody-p7b]

😅😅😅

[@minestar2247]

Uhh, watching the video, it seems more of "bin Laden won" cause everything is worst in this timeline

[@ariaspes3842]

considering that Iran was fighting the entire west and saudi money lol

[@minestar2247]

Yeah, probably, past tense specifically

[@ramble21]

Lol I understand this joke

[@supersaiyankeyblademaster2427]

What if the Taliban handed over Bin Laden after 9/11?

[@P0PG03S]

This.

[@BigScreamingBaby]

That would have been one hell of a suprise for sure.

[@jamesk5541]

​@@BigScreamingBaby "What now Mr president the Taliban are handing him over " George Bush: "Idk I didn't think I'd get this far "

[@minestar2247]

This is absurd, specifically because he's Saudi, but it might be possible that he doesn't get to Afghanistan. But at the same time, what's the point? Other groups are gonna get to the middle east and else, and the us probably would keep the Taliban as it was the us that helped them get to power.

[@bweaddss]

⁠@@jamesk5541I think he probably would say word for word "idk I didn't think we'd get this far"

[@axzyte42]

As an iranian Azeri turk I have to say that there is a lot wrong with this scenario. Different ethnic groups in this country mostly consider themselves as Iranians and then their ethnicity. There are some exceptions but in my life I haven't seen any separatist Azeri in my life and we are the largest minority group in the country. Separatism usually occurs in countries where one ethnic group has the almost total dominance over other ethnicities like the Kurds in Iraq in Saddam's time, but here everyone can have any position of power and always could in history regardless of their ethnicity. We might not like our current government but we definitely do not want a fractured Iran.

[@weepingscorpion8739]

I have actually been wondering if there is a movement to unify all Azerbaijanis. From what I can read, this doesn't seem to be the case. At least, not in Iran. Am I right about this?

[@oicmapper]

America doesnt care, they just want to destroy Iran, and Iran eould be in a worse state that independent states

[@Lockfly]

In Iran Azeris aren't discriminated against because it's a Shia theocracy and Azeris are Shia too. For Kurds tho there absolutely is seperatism in Iran because not only are Kurds a minority ethnicity they're also Sunni not shia which the Iranian government discriminates against them for​@@weepingscorpion8739

[@minestar2247]

But the us would want to fracture Iran, which means that the us would do it anyways just because. And I wonder, how's Iran at this time of the year? Good weather? Not too much fracturing?

[@neodenz]

Kurds in Iraq during Sadam's times? Are you kidding me?

[@floor737]

What if Norway won the Iran-Iraq War? (Please do a what if everything went perfect for Norway scenario)

[@wegdhass5587]

Yesssss

[@wegdhass5587]

As long as you keep the bubonic plague from doing too much harm, Norway will become the greatest power in scandinavia. They were at their zenith right before the plague hit and likely could have gotten even stronger

[@minestar2247]

Depends, what were Norway's goals in the war? It might lead to one of these timelines or our timeline

[@Catarigue]

🇳🇴🇳🇴🇳🇴🇳🇴🇳🇴

[@bweaddss]

@@wegdhass5587what if everything went perfect for the bubonic plague

[@Da__goat]

I find it really interesting how Shia Islam has been concentrated in small pockets within the larger Sunni world; Iraq, Azerbaijan, Qatar, and Iran as the major pockets within the larger Sunni space. And then there's Oman with the Ibadi branch dominating the landscape in relative peace.

[@akshittripathi5403]

Qatar is not Shia. You may be thinking of Bahrain?

[@lempereurcremeux3493]

Only reason Sunnis so drastically outnumber Shias is that the Shias were locked out of colonizing the Indian subcontinent and Indonesia, the most lush and fertile parts of the Muslim world, in the 1500s. Factor those countries out and you get Shias as a fifth of the global Muslim population, mostly located in what is by no means a "small pocket" in Iran and its neighbors. And if you keep Egypt under Shia rule after the Fatimids, that bumps them up to a quarter or more, especially if they start influencing neighboring areas.

[@artanz1325]

bahrain?

[@luciddoggo5094]

@@lempereurcremeux3493 what do you mean locked out of? Shias were actually way closer to India for like 500 years but they took too long then the turks converted to islam

[@ArashAram313]

Shias have been massacred oppressed isolated n subjected to horrific crimes till this day! To save face the governments do it through groups like Taliban isis Al Qaeda… all for supporting the prophet’s PBU bloodline lineage (ahlul beit) to guide and rule after his death, and rejecting caliphs legitimacy and decency n not sitting silent about killing his Daughter Fatima PBU, and later his grandsons n others by caliphs! Prophets bloodline n descendants were assassinated imprisoned driven out of Mecca Medina! Many people knew what happened but forced to obey caliphs and their version n understanding of Islam as it was convenient n safe! Shias also didn’t participate in any offensive unprovoked wars such as early wars against Byzantine christians and sassanid Persians motivated by greed and in alliance with western church n Jews. Being in power meant their version of Islam grew. Things dramatically changed when nearly all Persians during Safavid empire became Shia after much research n debates between scholars. Then again 1979 revolution USA puppet king was overthrown shias are able to protect themselves and sunnis or christians facing oppression! Only iran helped armed Sunni Bosnians n sent IRGC generals n volunteers to stop genocide! Only iran and shias help Sunni Palestinians! Only iran saved tens of thousands Armenian christians from genocide n gave them safety and citizenship in iran n big community of Armenian Iranians still live there! They volunteered to fight against Saddam n many martyred n schools streets named after them like my secondary school. Iran still supports Armenia against Shia Azerbaijan attacks backed n armed by turkey n Israel!

[@moredac2881]

7:33 “I have quite literally zero faith that America can manage this alternate Middle East.” So fucking real.

[@maas1208]

It would bankrupt the U.S 💀💀💀

[@morsecode980]

**sees the thumbnail** That sure doesn’t look like they won 😭

[@minestar2247]

Yeah, and in the video they lost even harder

[@anvos658]

Winning a war doesn't mean you win the response to winning the war.

[@Techtalk2030]

Your ethnic map of Iran is wrong. Khorossan is Persian and khuzestan is Persian as is hormozgan. 30% of sistan o baluchistan is sistanj Persian too. Also Azeris in Iran are 10-15 million not 20.

[@capncake8837]

@@Techtalk2030 You’re talking to the wrong person. You should comment that in the main comments section, not reply to this guy.

[@theguywhoruinsthejoke9027]

Iraqi victory - The Middle Eastern proxy war becomes a three-way cold war between Iraq, Iran, and Saudi Arabia, with the US playing on all sides Iranian victory - Complete and utter chaos in the Middle East by 2010

[@FodaseNaoLigo]

Truly a middle east momment

[@danielsantiagourtado3430]

Happy good friday! Thanks For this 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏❤️❤️❤️❤️

[@eltrumo12]

Idea: What if Serbia won Yugoslav wars?

[@E46SedanGaming]

Would likely just be a mildly salvaged yugoslavia-ish state without croatia or slovenia

[@minestar2247]

Depends on how, if you cancel the Yugoslav wars altogether by making Yugoslavia a federation after tito's death, it wouldn't count as Serbia specifically winning. But if you make Serbia win by making a seen ethnostate(like the b g that happened at the time) that would be worst for everyone

[@redcrown5154]

@@minestar2247 ''worst''

[@minestar2247]

@@redcrown5154 so you are saying the non Serbs of Yugoslavia should be all killed? That it would be better if they didn't continue living?

[@FodaseNaoLigo]

Every westernoid you mean​@@minestar2247

[@IronSparrow870]

What if America returned to isolationism after WW2? Not getting involved in Vietnam and Korea.

[@gengarzilla1685]

Good hell, those internal and external borders make the viewer polls look tame.

[@ryanlargent9320]

Hey there - you mentioned that Carter would be blamed for the fall of Iraq in this timeline, but that would’ve come squarely during the Reagan administration in this timeline. The election of Reagan over Carter happened in 1980 with Reagan inaugurated in January 1981.

[@minestar2247]

Oh, that might be good cause it would lead to regonomics to be dead

[@kj07video]

You should do more videos where the turning point has something to do with a nations internal politics

[@magmaboi4359]

*Pours syrup on Middle-East* "Blows Middle-East with mind." "My fucking Middle-East."

[@minestar2247]

Is this a reference to something?

[@alqash6749]

​@@minestar2247blows up pancake with mind

[@moonshinei]

the Cheney Caliphate rises…

[@minestar2247]

What's that? And I don't think so, cause Iran doesn't count as a caliphate

[@namenotneeded5128]

@@minestar2247 Even then Religion prevents Iran from even trying to call itself a Caliphate.

[@strangehermitman7898]

@@minestar2247 Its a joke...

[@minestar2247]

@@strangehermitman7898 i don't know the reference, and don't get jokes

[@Unknown_nobody-p7b]

I get the joke but i’d like to point out that shiites don’t accept any caliph other than imam ali and his descendants

[@XTach]

Bro, you channel is good! I hope you wont fall to politics like many other alt history youtubers. (Monsieur Z, Whatifalthist)

[@Maskito.]

He himself said that regardless of a person's ideology, they should not be prevented from making this type of video.

[@minestar2247]

Yes kind of a lefty, and history is inherently political, but this channel doesn't seem to fall into that many biases

[@FodaseNaoLigo]

​@@minestar2247Kind of a lefty? You don't even know what youre talking about

[@Afri_Pandora_Archieve]

What if the Aztecs invaded Russia

[@enderkatze6129]

Y'know, this offered up a third scenario: the one mentioned in the Intro: iran begins a slow invasion of iraq, leading to international intervention

[@thevettegetsitwett]

The U.S. was highly unlikely to allow either power to “win”. Unless you mean win by keeping their borders but Iran annexing Iraq is highly unlikely. America is in a similar position of the British before the world war wars wanting to simply maintain the current balance of power because we are currently at the top. The world wars were mostly over maintaining the balances of power from the British prospective they did not want Germany or Japan to get to powerful to challenge their global position.

[@zsombortelek8411]

That thumbnail is glorious. If you're doing nore modern scenarios I wonder if you're going to make a video about a Serbian victory in the Yugoslav Wars.

[@keegandecker4080]

What if the Bronze Age collapse never happened?

[@Your_average_Iranian]

Great video. Please make a video about 1953 coup of Iran.

[@minestar2247]

Yeah, if that one didn t happen, the middle east would probably be way better

[@Unknown_nobody-p7b]

@@minestar2247not necessarily . Khomieni wanted to establish an islamic republic nontheless . In fact the revolution might have happened even earlier ( although it won’t be as much of a revolution as it is a bunch of reforms over a relatively small timespan ( also they did a referendum after thev revolution in iran won and 98% of the people approved ))

[@minestar2247]

@@Unknown_nobody-p7b Huh, it would still be better anyways, maybe those reforms, being less extreme than other examples, might show example

[@CliffThePerson]

What if everything went perfect for the Soviet Union?

[@ExDixionconderoga]

They did that in their Soviet cold was victory scenario

[@JaiKarpe-jv2gj]

No Saddam = No gulf war. Which in your what if Iraq won video you predicted would lead to no George W. Bush (Because Bush Sr was even less popular) and no George W. Bush = no invasion of Iraq (or in this case) Iran

[@Techtalk2030]

Your ethnic map of Iran is wrong. Khorossan is Persian and khuzestan is Persian as is hormozgan. 30% of sistan o baluchistan is sistanj Persian too. Also Azeris in Iran are 10-15 million not 20.

[@h_h4790]

As an Iranian living in khuzestan province; I would never let anyone separating us from our country.

[@orionclouds3741]

As a Iranian Lur love you bro and we Iranian people if Arabs, Kurds, Azeri, Fars, Baloch, Gilak, Turkaman, Talish, Lak, Pashtun are always united in hard days agints enemies we showed our unithy many times and we will show it in futur if it necessary again. It is very realistic that we think the enemmis of Iran israel and usa and their poppets in the region have such a nasty plane for my our country, but we Iranian alway are united and never let anyone hurts us and our beutiful peacful country, zende bad bar shoma va Javid va payande Iran azziz. Nouroz tabrik bar shoma Zende bad Iran for ever, Viva Iran ✊💚🤍❤,

[@thatshowyoudoit6583]

@@orionclouds3741not the Arabs Arabs the iranien ones

[@sinabx4325]

the ones that live in the south of Iran ofc😊​@@thatshowyoudoit6583

[@TheRealBillBob]

Hard to believe that the US could just invade Iran so quickly. As if Iran didn't have any defense or mountains to over come. 🙄🙄

[@noname18305]

Ikr

[@danielsantiagourtado3430]

That Rick and morty reference is perfect! Love it 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@hoosierhell7456]

Quiet

[@almostanarchybro9129]

In this timeline I doubt armenia would be around at least by our time and the less stable middle east would have the turks be the biggest rivals to the saudis. As their neo ottoman ambitions develop earlyier and with more success.

[@minestar2247]

Heh, yeah, they're surrounded and undefended, so you're probably right

[@kianabbsi]

They are part of the csto though

[@almostanarchybro9129]

@@kianabbsi russia would be in active decline at the time this would happen and be busy with domestic affairs. And probably supporting other groups in the middle east. Mind you in this timeline with a 30M population azerbaijani state and a proactive turkey that has a defense pact outside of NATO russia even putting in all it's resources can't risk a war. Especially with Turkey. They could give some support but it would be a lost cause. The fact is that Armenia has no allies. They aren't in the west's spehere, Iran is in ruins, the USA is isolationist, China dosen't have enough power projection at this point, possibly the French could get involved in aid but that assumes Armenia holds out for more than a few weeks.

[@gengarzilla1685]

CSTO membership is worthless when Russia won't act. Armenia is seeing that fact now that Azerbaijan was recently allowed to fuck with them again.

[@gengarzilla1685]

Russia can barely be bothered to "protect" Armenia as is. A scenario like this one is game over for them.

[@PaoloCavestro-ey9bb]

What if Iran and Iraq had adopted the cult of Makima, Revy, Cutie Honey, Marin Kitagawa, Trixie Tang, Judy Neutron, Marge Simpson, Wendy Corduroy, Lois Griffin, Sailor Moon, and Maddie Fenton instead of Abrahamic shit?

[@E46SedanGaming]

I love how the Iraqi victory’s thumbnail is nothing too chaotic but this video’s thumbnail is the definition of a shitshow

[@Unknown_nobody-p7b]

Yeah this video’s thumbnail looks like a meme

[@Thatonepersonyouheard]

I like the very grounded videos, even if this one went a little too far into the future

[@anvos658]

Honestly if the US had to go for the trifecta of Iraq/Iran/Afghanistan I'm not convinced this doesn't lead to the US deciding its time to redraw borders, before creating new governments.

[@eradaalmasi7590]

Thanks for the correct pronunciation of Iran.

[@Monker83]

Great Video

[@Maxfromohio2155]

Can you make a what if ww1 was re-enacted in the modern world video please

[@KobeRogers-vw8nx]

Agree Also WW2 But reversed USA/Germany Canada/Italy Britain/Japan China/Great Britain Russia/USA Iran/France

[@Maxfromohio2155]

@@KobeRogers-vw8nx he already did a video about if ww2 was re-enacted in the modern day

[@KobeRogers-vw8nx]

@@Maxfromohio2155 No Again But the Roles are Reversed where the US is Germany while China Russia and Iran are the allies

[@Maxfromohio2155]

@@KobeRogers-vw8nx ok now I understand

[@KobeRogers-vw8nx]

@@Maxfromohio2155 yea

[@goldenfiberwheat238]

Why is there a little dot in Afghanistan

[@aAverageFan]

What if India won the 1962 war against China?

[@semon009]

What if South Korea won the Korean War? and What if North Korea won the Korean War?

[@jaredjosephsongheng372]

That thumbnail sure doesn't look like they won 😂

[@Hahatomato]

Now weve seen Iran win, and before we saw Iraq win. Now show us what would happen if nobody won,

[@Agent_0201]

Well irl it ended In a stalemate

[@Maperator]

what is the piano music used at 7:20?

[@willie4445]

Video idea: What if the tanzimat reforms were successful?

[@minestar2247]

Oh, what were the tanzimat reforms?

[@willie4445]

@@minestar2247 In simple terms, an attempt to modernize the ottoman empire in the mid 1800s with a list of attempted reforms such as healthcare, education, military, etc. The reforms failed due to the failure to modernize technologically in which by then it was sort of too late to catch up to the europeans.

[@Burh643]

​@@minestar2247 Proposed reforms of the ottoman empire

[@minestar2247]

@@willie4445 ok, this sounds pretty interesting, I would like to see what would happen if they were successful, or if the reforms in my own country were too

[@Aiden-wg4pu]

What if Austria joined Germany in 1871?

[@vainoue9173]

do “What if Yugoslavia never collapsed?” you can talk about their impact on the world and what they would change. for example their arsenal

[@Fella12366]

It wouldn't have changed very much

[@vainoue9173]

@@Fella12366 how, like wdym

[@Fella12366]

@@vainoue9173 like it wouldn't have effected global politics very much

[@vainoue9173]

@@Fella12366 they were influential in the third world especially, and would have likely somewhat altered the landscape of Europe + other civil wars. the thing is it’s not comically exasperated by their existence which make sense but tbh it’s an interesting topic

[@FodaseNaoLigo]

​@@Fella12366would have major consequentes In russia and nato

[@Ghosty.maria7]

Truly a Dick Cheney moment

[@SomeDudeWhoIsntDead]

Interestingly, in this timeline saddam hussein is probably remembered more fondly internationally

[@javadnamjoo1235]

Well Iran already won the war. There was no need to put an "if" in the video title. "Winning a war" basically means one side achieving their goals of war (winner) and the other side failing to achieve their goals (loser). The fact that Iraq couldn't achieve its means of war (coquering Iran especially Khuzestan province) but Iran could achieve its goal (defending the country and not letting the border to shrink.) And also the crazy amount of logistics Iranian soldiers took home from Iraqi territories sound like a clear win.

[@pep-qew]

When you found out about cool war and have short episode of hiper interest.

[@SuSTR7]

Invading Iran back then would be very hard for US to pull off because of the country's fortress like geography and population support for the government which was way more back then. Even secular and moderates would fight against america because they supported the Reformist Khatami administration, they wanted better relations with US and even israel. Also there wasn't any major divide between ethnicities, though the government has always kept the baluchistan very poor and that led to the formation of some baluchi independance terrorist groups. Overall, US would face a much bigger catastrophe and the region would remain hostile to US forever. But currently, things are the exact opposite. The majority of Iranians hate their government and are just waiting for a spark. If america continues to destory Iran's economy and not let them sell any oils, the Islamic regime will certainly collapse in the next 3-4 years. Unfortunately every global and regional power will interfere for their own interests and that can turn the country into the next Libya or Syria, but if things go relatively smooth and the next government handles recovering from crises well, and focuses on economic developement, considering Iran's population, geography and resources they can become one of the next global economic superpowers.

[@ironzombie39]

It took the soviets and the British 6 days using a couple tanks, half a dozen boats and 50,000 troops in 1941. I very much doubt Iran could survive a full-scale war with the United States

[@RandomEmperor]

What if Bosnian caliphate is established with them liberating all of middle east and balkans?

[@SebiSuper9mil]

Yay part 2

[@shadowofmeme9599]

Iran🇮🇷 always had survived, even at the worst senarios like moghols and turks(ottoman empire).

[@HKuoksu]

I love ur vids

[@Unknown_nobody-p7b]

I like how optimistic you are about the invasion of iran and it’s “proxies” , the USA isn’t able to defeat syrian and iraqi militias right now or even the taliban and the houthis and hezbollah , so tell me how will they face iran

[@minestar2247]

Yeah, they would suffer. But at the same time, militias use guerilla warfare, which is specifically effective when you have low numbers and want to fight larger armies

[@minestar2247]

Also, the last three are political parties rulling countries, so it would be as difficult as fighting the democrats

[@Familyguyfunnymoments_]

To be fair Iran winning in the first place hinges on saddam being comically incompetent

[@Unknown_nobody-p7b]

@@minestar2247 tell me why the iranian military and the islamic revolutionary guard couldn’t use guerrila warfare

[@minestar2247]

@@Unknown_nobody-p7b they wouldn't have used it at first, but Yeah, they d definitely use it at some point, it would still have the same effect of causing way more chaos than in our timeline

[@liladoodle]

What if the 1926 Miners Strike reached a boiling point and caused Britain to go through their own "Russian Revolution"? With Scotland & Wales gaining independence in the chaos, and Northern Ireland reunifies with the rest of the country.

[@KaiReddy-u5y]

Hey PH are you planning on finishing the every empires series?

[@AlexanderGlobus-bf9pr]

Some suggestions: What if Turkey joined Axis? What if USSR was way aggressive after WW2? What if USA went to isolation again after WW2

[@AgentAction-ni2ji]

Cool War Scenario at 09:32

[@NewDealChief]

Great video that contrasts the Iraq video, but I very much doubt the U.S. can conquer Iran-proper due to the geography of the region.

[@ironzombie39]

It took the soviets and the British 6 days using a couple tanks, half a dozen boats and 50,000 troops in 1941. I very much doubt Iran could survive a full-scale war with the United States

[@minestar2247]

Yeah, it would take them an extremely long time to do that, so it would make reconstruction way harder, as they might not even try

[@Townes888]

@@minestar2247Invading iran is more like invading Vietnam rather than Afghanistan

[@Hotsilog_Gaming]

Please do a "What if Everything went perfect for The Philippines?" video

[@Ali-bu6lo]

Now please consider making a "What if 1979 revolution didn't happen" video.

[@WillJenson-rr6cd]

Video idea: What if Bavaria United Germany

[@FalconfromRF]

May be, Anschluss would had happen earlier, but, Germans would be not really interested in holding and conquering lands near Baltic sea.

[@user-rf7tx4nw8g]

Can you please do what if Britain alliance to Napoleon

[@lynxfresh5214]

Even for alt-history standards that's grossly out there but the brief reaction of the others would be like this; Russia: WTF!?! Spain: HOW!?! Austria: NO! Portugal: Traitor! Netherlands: Thieves! Prussia: Stop... Ottamans: Ugh! Sweden: Tsk! Denmark: What? Dutchy of Warsaw: Nice! USA: Seriously? Colonies: Help... Notice how only one gives a straight up positive response?

[@user-rf7tx4nw8g]

@@lynxfresh5214 So something crazier What if Britain and Napoleon's France united into a super country to try to rule the world

[@balkanlivesmatter]

hey possible history, what platform do you use to draw your maps?

[@kpppppqfa]

perfect timing when I looked at likes, it was 911

[@minestar2247]

Both these videos are fun and insane at the same time, it's like: -what if Iraq won?:similar timeline, or less us involvement(if Iraq can be resonable) leading to less us involvement and a cold war between Iran Iraq and Saudi Arabia What if Iran wins the war?:kaboom? Yes ricko, kaboom. 🔥🔥 This is fine 🔥🔥

[@ultrabeargames314]

What if Liechtenstein became the HRE after the real HRE fell, and bought Alaska and couped Switzerland and Bavaria to annex it to make it more official. and if they make it to it, they'll buy Alaska. (possibly April 1st?)

[@RiggsBF]

What if South Africa still had nukes?

[@mr.humbleguy3100]

This is what bush dreams of every single night

[@sirtgnq6290]

idea, what if the shah wasnt overthrown in Iran

[@Unknown_nobody-p7b]

I’ve divided the story into parts so that you can better understand it : 1-It almost happened , the day before the proclamation of the islamic state , the shah forbode everybody to get out of his house ( and anybody who did so was gonna be killed by the savak ( the shahist police )) 2- and almost all of the leaders often the revolution agreed on not telling people to go to the streets , except imam ruhollah khomiemi 3- he didn’t agree nor disagree , instead he went into his room for some 30 minutes , then came back and told them to tell people to go to the streets , everybody exclaimed , but he told them : “ i am ordered “ ( don’t worry he didn’t ask an 8 ball , it was most likely that imam al mahdi told him in some way or another ) . 4-Later it turns out that the shah planned on killing the revolutionary leaders that night ( also tens of thousands died that night , so it wasn’t without a cost )

[@Adir-Yosef]

a middle east that's a lot safer that's for sure. no Islamic Iran = no reason for the US to get into the middle east, no goliath for Israel to stand against (in the 2000s) and no one to really play power games with. Saudi is in the US sphere and non Islamic Iran, Turkey and Israel would be generally aliened together to the US as the three none Arab middle east nations. in other words the middle east would look a lot like before the Islamic revolution.

[@minestar2247]

That would suck because that Iran Is a us puppet, and stays that way past the cold war

[@aAverageFan]

What if Iranian PM Mossadegh wasn't overthrown in a CIA backed coup?

[@ShubhamMishrabro]

I will guarantee you one thing. Iran would be a regional power economically and military wise. It is because of shah reforms and modernization of defence iran was able to defend against iraq. And iran was under the white revolution. Shah's vision was to make iran a developed country by 90s. Middle East would have been less radicalized and more stable cause you have to remember islamic fundamentalism started in 70s with iran revolution

[@red_chicken_not_redchicken1800]

Yess you make it!!!!

[@Danube-TV]

What if everything went perfect for Iran/Persia? - Day 7

[@ironzombie39]

The Achaemenid Empire would still exist and thus Iranians would never convert to Islam and remain Zoroastrian

[@hishamalaker491]

Oh dear god, the Thumbnail says it all.

[@Ea-pb2tu]

This is a bit different but maybe a video on what if the EU federalized today and what it would mean for the future?

[@krimux3076]

This timeline would definitely lead to more instability in neighboring countries such as pakistam

[@lambert801]

This video is more like fanatasy writing for the entertainment of less knowledgeable viewers than an actual analysis.

[@papastalin6816]

That's what all alternate history is tbh

[@lambert801]

@@papastalin6816 True. Alternate history would be infinitely more fun if it was taken a bit more seriously and done by more knowledgeable individuals.

[@comradebanana129]

4:08 Libya would have sided with Iran as they did OTL.

[@galCheri]

What if a Kurdish state was made in the aftermath of WW1? Just thought it as a good idea

[@MD.Akib_Al_Azad]

A Kurdish state was made wasn’t it? It was probably a French mandate but it was made. It just got obliterated by Ataturk

[@galCheri]

@@MD.Akib_Al_Azad i mean like one which continued onto ww2, cold war etc etc

[@Aamirmahdiy]

50% of iraq electricity comes from iran

[@AGamerthatregretsalot]

What if Kelly moneymaker didn't fund either side and stayed neutral instead.

[@Unknown_nobody-p7b]

Wrong channel mate

[@davidbalogun7569]

What if the Iranian revolution never happened or was crushed and the Shahanshah stayed in charge?

[@minestar2247]

Nope

[@Nicolassantosbranco]

Think that Iran would descend into chaos after American intervention is not an exaggeration, but a realistic way to think based on what actually happened in less populous countries like Iraq and afghan, maybe America would gave up sooner in the war on terror.

[@minestar2247]

Yeah, that's realistic, and this is why i find those who want to "bring freedom and democracy" to the middle east are dumb, because it simply won't work, taking away the dictatorship will make an uncontrollable chaos(even more difficult for a republic to rule), the governments would probably be like the Weimar republic, basically puppet states to serve the west, so they'd have no power nor legitimacy. And even if it worked, people would still get dictators to power because they would represent them better, the people would either have freedom and would restore the old government or old laws, or they wouldn't have freedom, which means the democracy is fake and would cause a revolt

[@RightfulArchon186]

Screw it, what if the Chinese warlord era never happened? (Yuan Shikai gets 360 noscoped) Or what if everything went perfect for Arabia or China?

[@lephten]

I have a few questions, if America were to go isolationist, wouldn't the American backed Kurdish region be invaded by Turkey and Azerbaijan? Also, if if we were to divide these nations among ethnic lines what about the Turkmens and Uzbeks in Syria, Iraq, Iran, and Afghanistan.

[@planetarystargazer]

What If everything went perfect for China 🇨🇳

[@PalauBallEdits]

Plzzzzzzzz do final empire video part

[@shreys7551]

What if Austria joined the Franco-Prussian War?

[@saladbruh2625]

the more alterante timelines I investigate , the more i am assured that we live in the brightest timeline

[@aarohalme1020]

Iran could have a chance of actually "winning" the conflict, maintaining control over at least it's own territories. Iran has better geography, a far higher population and so on than Iraq so it could become a second Vietnam.

[@lolitzdefaltboy5063]

Is an encirclement possible in mountainous terrain?

[@567secret]

What if the US & Britain never overthrew the 1953 democratic Iranian government?

[@perfectlyfine1675]

I don't understand why you seem to think in both these videos thay the Soviet-Iranian relationship was so horrible that the USSR would even contemplate invading Iran, when in reality the USSR was lukewarm occasionally to the regime. Also, no, a strengthened Iran wouldn't just be fully conquered by America. A complete conquest of Afghanistan was just not possible, with the Taliban forever present in the north. Iran is deserts, mountains and even rainforests, has a more competent military, would have an even better military had they just won and not grinded down in trenches for eight years and have a far larger population than Afghanistan. And that's not even counting the necessity to also defeat Syria, Iraq and Houthis. How? Just how?

[@General_Universe]

This channel usually creates pretty unrealistic scenarios. He usually doesn’t care much about realism but more about views from the western “history buffs”.

[@ExDixionconderoga]

Also, who tf came for Balkanized Iran?

[@__mints__]

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