What If James Kept The Invisibility Cloak - FULL STORY 1-5 | Harry Potter Film Theory

What if James Potter had kept the Invisibility Cloak instead of lending it to Dumbledore? Would it have helped the Potters survive the night Voldemort attacked? Would Harry still become the chosen one? Does Voldemort win or does he ever fall at all?
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[@coolnerdlll6053]

The multi-part stories are the absolute best What Ifs. I'm still holding out for the rest of What If Neville Was The Chosen One. Also, I'm dying laughing at the idea of some random Quidditch World Cup attendee accidentally becoming a Horcrux instead of Harry. Maybe it's Agatha Timms and Voldemort's soul knows a lot about eel farming.

[@ikedounut1187]

Same

[@Minecraftsmewtwo]

Same same

[@Roid33]

Same same same

[@theohanley1715]

Absolutely yo

[@orangetuxedoman]

Patiently waiting yes.

[@DuonDRaven]

- Baby Harry hiding under the invisibility cloak - Voldemort: "Wormtail, bring me the Petrol..." - Credits roll over a burning house -

[@rafaelantonioribeiro7605]

"Harry Potter And The... Oh, No More Harry Potter"

[@coolnerdlll6053]

A Burning Pile of Ash and the Philosopher's Stone.

[@Minecraftsmewtwo]

And if Voldemort poured the petrol it wouldn’t even interfere with the prophecy

[@the_author07]

Yeeaaahhhhhh I feel like baby Harry wouldn't be living through that no matter how much Lady Plot Armor wants it to happen

[@KevinZimmerman-uw8mv]

Petrol? More like fiend fire!

[@darkenai0045]

Umbridge as "good" teacher I imagine is like a college professor who shows the material but refuses to explain or take questions but instead demeans anyone who doesn't instantly get it or asks questions

[@Coco-my9qu]

So ... like Snape?

[@colefuemmeler7685]

Personal theory: The reason Harry is able to return to life isn't because of his sacrifice. Dumbledore just needs the world to believe it so they don't know the true power of the Deathly Hallows. In truth Harry is the true owner of all three, both being that he is the rightful heir to them and they have all been passed down to his possession. He is able to return because he is actually the Master of Death.

[@DezMarivette]

LOL Voldy’s face on Lucius’s body is the most majestic image I’ve yet to see.

[@henryguillen806]

Can you give a timestamp, please? Never mind. Found it. 44:40

[@Coco-my9qu]

Oh my god he has a nose ... and ... hair?

[@Minecraftsmewtwo]

3 what if ideas 1.what if dumbledore told harry about the prophecy in philosophers stone 2. What if the troll killed hermione 3.what if Krum won the triwizard tournament (Also massive respect for uploading 2 videos in 1 minute) And I hope you continue what if Neville was the chosen one

[@jennb1590]

What if Snape overhead the whole prophecy?

[@bruhdon4748]

In response to 2, I imagine Harry and Ron would’ve either died or just not made it to certain conclusions without her lol

[@Minecraftsmewtwo]

@@bruhdon4748 it would probably still be interesting though

[@Minecraftsmewtwo]

@@jennb1590 a lot of people have said that already but it would be cool

[@kaylapounds1359]

Better yet, what if Harry took the trophy alone? Obviously he'd still go to the graveyard and a lot would play out relatively similar but... 1. Cedric would be left in the maze and have seen Harry get pulled away by a portkey, so would Fake Moody/Crouch kill Cedric to prevent him telling? Or would Cedric get a chance to tell Dumbledore and the others? Would they figure out everything sooner? 2. Without witnessing the death of Cedric this would mean Harry doesn't see the thestrals the next year. Maybe OOTP plays out the same and after Sirius' death he sees them, but still.

[@alessandrobotti8981]

Day 1 of asking: what if Grindelwald and Dumbledore actually went through with their plans?

[@annahrodrigues4297]

Gay

[@davidbakke9293]

Ah but the Fantastic Beasts series kinda sucks in comparison to HP

[@annahrodrigues4297]

@@davidbakke9293 That's why we need them to rewrite it

[@aubriegardiner37]

I prefer the question: “what if dumbledore and grindelwald had never heard about the deathly hallows?” I like to think they’d be happily ever after, Arianna would be alive, he never would have become a teacher, never would have discovered tom riddle, and tom riddle becomes a corrupt politician in the muggle world with a self-discovered skill of mind control. Voters never stood a chance

[@kaylapounds1359]

​@@annahrodrigues4297that's not cool to use gay as something you find insulting.

[@ezradanger]

I'm only 40 minutes into the video right now, but I wanted to pause it to let you know that this is awesome.

[@NicoleFollansbee]

What if Snape never called Lilly a Mudblood? Would that change the plot at all?

[@Serothil_and_stuff]

Harry Severus Snape sounds so wierd Oo

[@TheKing72.]

Harry Severus and the sorcerers stone

[@dillonlongland8995]

@@TheKing72. philosophers*

[@jennb1590]

I’ve watched all the “what-if’s” multiple times. These combined videos are great for throwing on when I’m doing house work. Thanks for all the great videos. We all want the rest of “what if Nevle was the chosen one” but I’m also curious what would change if Snape stayed and heard the whole prophecy. Would Snape have told Voldemort? Would Voldemort have done anything different? Y’all are awesome. Keep up the great work!

[@saba4646]

What do you think would become of Draco in your scenario? Would he desire to fight against Voldemort earlier assuming that Voldemort benefits of this situation and what would his parents do if he ran away on the knight bus at the age of 11?

[@saba4646]

Plz reply

[@goliathus8815]

so both snape and sirius survived in this version. dang that is a really big change

[@PixelIMC]

Voldemort’s face on Lucius is so weird and funny

[@NoVaReflex212]

"The teen who lived"

[@sebastianwieczorek2041]

theres one big issue with this, if hermione gets petrified on halloween harry wont know to not look the basilisk in the eyes when he gets down to the chamber and will likely die in the chamber of secrets in his first year. i know this is hard to swallow but shes the one that found out that the monster is a basilisk and she only does that toward the end of the year, the piece of parchment harry and ron find on hermione and moaning myrtle is how they find out about the basilisk's instant kill eyes, and this way round they wont have a relationship with myrtle AND they wont have this info, so its very unlikely harry still defeats the basilisk

[@the_author07]

Wait you've got a point 😭

[@Chillvibesonly629]

I absolutely love your in depth stories/ What Ifs. You two are very creative writers and very knowledgeable on the subjects. I’ve truly enjoyed these series. Would love to see more in the future. 🥰

[@quincyking010]

There's a major problem. Kakarot was only durmstrang head master after leaving the country. So the events would have been different since durmstrang would have had a different headmaster

[@gabrielfiore8847]

I just got to part 3, but another major problem I see is what is Snape doing??? He should still be a spy working for Dumbledore

[@OtraConta]

I’m only calling him Kakarot from now on 😂 thanks

[@wulftheghost]

Kakarot 💀 😂

[@KevinZimmerman-uw8mv]

I'm still trying to figure out why they had matching cores when Harry wasn't a horcrux when he went wand shopping?

[@hannahb.375]

@@KevinZimmerman-uw8mvHarry was a horcrux as a baby. Tom’s own death plus the fact that his soul was unstable meant a part broke away from the rest of his wraith self that was in Albania for 10 or so years, and it went into Harry. So he was made a horcrux the night Tom attacked and tried to kill him

[@ThatAnnoyingLynel]

Absolutely love you vids! I've been watching since... forever! I would love a theory about what if Barty Crouch Jr actually controlled himself as mad-eye moody after the maze.

[@danielsantiagourtado3430]

Your multi parts are awesome! Yoy always make My day ! Flower pot ruled😊😊😊

[@danielsantiagourtado3430]

LOVED this one! Happy easter brothers! 🔥🔥🔥🐇🐇🐇🐇🐇

[@ctrI_key]

these videos are very well-made! Love it

[@mirvzdnb]

I am left with only one question: Isn’t it impossible to make Gryffindor’s sword a Horcrux due to it’s properties? It is said that the sword only takes in what makes it stronger. A soul of Voldemort would make it a vulnerable object or am I wrong?

[@potentianox1573]

I was about to post the same question myself. Goblin metal is only supposed to imbibe that which makes it stronger. It seems that taking voldemort soul into itself would be completely counterpoint to this, also, the sword is supposed to be impregnated with basilisk venom (that's what gives it the property to destroy horcruxes) why would the soul survive being in a container meant to destroy it?

[@KevinZimmerman-uw8mv]

It became impregnated with the basilisk venom in the chamber of secrets. Before that it was just regular old goblin metal.

[@Selfish_Neurotic]

​@@KevinZimmerman-uw8mv Just regular old, indestructible metal.

[@MeowMeowza37]

Questions: 1 What would happen if the trace was triggered in a fidelius charmed house would it work? 2 What would happen if you polyjuiced into a viela are they the same species? It works when Fleur does it and she’s 1/4 Viela???

[@I-love-charity]

After 3 I was like, “ Voldy is da master of the elder wand! Gasp”😱

[@savagelystitched]

Am I the only one that gets teary-eyed when James urges Lilly to take Harry and run.😢😢😢

[@alannahmartin9424]

Hi SCB i have two suggestions for what ifs: What if Hermione confronted Lupin about him being a werewolf in POA, or if she even just told Ron and Harry? What if Lupin didnt forget about his wolfbane potion that night and didnt transform, Pettigrew probably wouldnt have escaped, etc Needless to say I'm a Lupin stan

[@sirloro]

could a coat be an invisibility coat if its a normal one under the fidelius charm? Because it should be invisible to anyone but the owner so anything beneath it as well. Yes it would work differently than the "normal" one but still. I wonder if this would be possible🤔

[@aud2d2]

The only thing that I can’t quite see is Voldemort getting the philosopher’s stone in year 4. I thought nicolas flamel was actually planning on dying anyways and just let Dumbledore borrow the stone. Would it still be in the SCHOOL vault at Gringotts? In my mind, Flamel deposited the stone to the Hogwart’s vault. Then, Dumbledore had Hagrid pick it up. With such an important item, why would it not be on Flamel or under his own protection? He’s had it for hundreds of years right?

[@8-balllaufeyson948]

You guys should make a Percy Jackson video

[@HogsHighlights]

Hey there! I was wondering if I could make a suggestion. It would be amazing if you could create a video of Harry accepting Lupin's offer in the Deathly Hallows. I'm sure many fans, including myself, would love to see that iconic moment come to life. Thank you so much for considering it!

[@erikagholston6610]

That was an amazing What If. It had me riveted to my tablet.

[@PixelIMC]

I love it continue the videos

[@HannahEvansOfficial]

Love your videos

[@eyez274]

Really good work!

[@Payatown]

That Voldemort laughing clip gets me everytime 😂

[@Dondoki_]

i love the part where snape shouts "alive!" because its such a contradiction to most stories/theorys where they proclaim hes dead

[@user-mk8sq4eh1k]

We gotta get this guy Ben a thesaurus. Heard “as ever” 5 times and I’m half way through

[@bruhdon4748]

I mean, there’s not many variations of as ever & the ones there are sound pretentious

[@matthewpelletier6900]

Much better Elder Wand solution here than the main story.

[@RockismyAir]

Why does Sirius always need to die in your theories? Also: Why didnt Hagrid give baby Harry to Sirius to raise when Voldemort struck on Harrys parents? The story would have been different, but better.

[@Orgeifex]

Bond of blood charm

[@bruhdon4748]

The blood charm lived on through her sister petunia & kept Harry safe until he was 17, of Sirius was related by blood then he would’ve went to Sirius

[@MelissaHere720]

I love what ifs videos 💚 Now only need there take on what is siruis was proven innocent, both during back in the trial and at the end of POA. unless it exists already?

[@Coco-my9qu]

1:02:13 I was actually thinking about the dragon just outside the vault.

[@maxwiebe357]

polyjuice is actually used 5 times in the deathly hallows. 1. ministry break in 2. gringotts break in 3. 7 potters 4. godrics hollow 5. bill and fleurs wedding

[@NintendoCrescend0]

If Moody's eye can see through walls, and the room of requirement is being used as a "somewhere that can't be found" room, can Moody see through the wall into the room?

[@bruhdon4748]

I always found it dumb that moodys eye can see through the cloak, makes no sense to me. Makes something super powerful negated so easily, how hard would it be to have your eyes replaced?

[@kickpushlongboards]

​@@bruhdon4748it's following the old tale of the "all seeing eye" which has many origins but is usually an eye plucked out from a god's face

[@jprice7]

I was re-reading Goblet of Fire the other day and a solid What If scenario occurred to me: What If Frank Bryce got out of the Riddle House before Nagini spotted him and reported what he heard to the police? I imagine the Ministry has ears in Scotland Yard and might hear about it also. What then?

[@X2sharkv]

yo your doing great keep on uploading

[@Potterheadforever144]

I love how snape character was shown

[@davidbakke9293]

“Wormtail, I’m doing the Wordle. What’s a five letter word that starts with ‘S’ and ends with ‘KE’?”

[@corneliastreet2491]

Spoke, obviously 😂

[@RillaGorilla420]

That shirt Ben is wearing is absolute 🔥🔥🔥 and I want one!!!!!

[@richardprice2398]

Amazing!!!!!

[@adampennington979]

I’ve had a theory that I’ve been sitting on for a while. If the Elder Wand’s got a thestral hair core, what if the invisibility cloak is made of thestral hair? I mean, thestrals are invisible, and so is the invisibility cloak.

[@mards9491]

I love this theory and I do think even in the movies they kind of hint to the cloak being more powerful for hardy. When snape hears Harry’s footsteps while questioning quirrl and reaches out I always saw the scene in my minds like the movie portrayed. Snape reaching out and hitting a void where harry holding up the cloak should have been. Since the cloak would not truely protect one from death if the magic in the cloak were not more than just makes you see through.

[@thichinatangul3340]

Does the “rightful owner of the cloak” means it is also make it sound proof? But in the movie - when Harry used it and gasped - Snape heard him… right? If not, baby Harry would probably be crying. So V could just pull off the cloak and kill him, no?

[@juliaspoonie3627]

Was the first thing I thought about!

[@ZChantie]

Love this version of Goblet of Fire. Much better villain plan than the convoluted one we got in canon lol😅

[@williamvlogs623]

Video idea what if harry remember the 2 way mirror Ifk if it would be a popular video if it was made but I'd like to think the battle of the department of mistery still happened some way

[@spacepiratemitchell8201]

What if Moody's eye was a fourth hollow, think about it he has bested death multiple times, losing pieces of himself each time. I think it would be cool if he request an eye to see death coming so he can prepare for it. Constant vigilance.

[@alainaclyden9754]

They should have put a silencing charm on the cloak

[@calcifur]

James wouldve gave it to Lily and she would've escaped with Harry. James would've been matyred but Voldemorts power would've continued to grow. Until they couldn't escape him.

[@UnfazedPhoenix]

Ooo can we get a deep dive on Moody's eye?? Pleeeease??

[@ugolomb]

c. 55:00 -- I'm not sure Scrimgeour would be the new Minister. Isn't it possible that, this time around, it would be Amelia Bones, assuming Voldemort hadn't killed her? Unless, of course, she was one of the casualties in the Battle of the Prophecy in which Crouch died.

[@meechealababyshaq]

Just heard about this from the podcast

[@HorizonGD340]

that ending was lit

[@SJ95111]

I came back to you this account after months and what is that beard . WHAT IS THAT BEARD

[@chlo-yb1ob]

i love how they pronounce accio "ah-see-oh" loll

[@fidogyrenuzanon2335]

Quick question. What happened to the stone in the snitch? I don’t think you guys ever used it.

[@kichiroux3025]

question... how does this spell work? (in one of the other videos, it's made clear that gold cannot be duplicated... the "why are the weasleys poor" video )1:01:53

[@TitanWar93]

This is going to be a twoferone I know you done the Harry Potter in Slytherin but what if Sirius Raised Harry and he is still going to Slytherin? How can that work? It's a big challenge but it's worth something.

[@Voloncheboroio]

Fun storyline, but in Prisoner of Azkaban, Lupin did see cloaked Harry on the Marauder’s map. Semi plot hole given the later significance placed on the cloak.

[@Voloncheboroio]

Just saw the FAQ video where J and Ben address this by narrowing it down to total concealment from agent of death.

[@Voloncheboroio]

Malfoy hitting Harry just by catching a glance of his foot earlier, is probably more hard to square with Mr. Lovegood’s description of “constant and impenetrable concealment, no matter what spells are cast at it”, or with Dumbledore’s claim that it “can be used to protect and shield”.

[@Voloncheboroio]

The incident with Malfoy contradicts Ron’s claim that “we’ve never been spotted under it”. This has to be changed for the cloak to be something that Harry “had never seen anything to equal”,-a description that better fits the Marauder’s map, that thing is ridiculous.

[@DaneCoDM]

When Voldemort created an 8 horcrux with the Sword when the goblet, ring, and the diary are destroyed. What stops him from just always having 7 horcruxs. Whenever one is destroyed, he can just create another one, right?

[@mindovermatterbecomingyour1561]

No he can't as Hermione says he's pushed his soul to the limit him just making 5 rendered his soul so unstable that his killing curse rebounding on him blasted out a piece of soul & turned Harry into an accidental horcrux (altho I DO wonder how much of that was because voldy was preparing to make a horcrux & had completed the process up to the point of commiting the murder)

[@sabrinamozaique5888]

But in Prisoner of Azkaban, Chapter 17, Lupin explains hat he can still see Harry on the Marauders Map, even under the Invisibility Cloak!

[@beed2587]

56:40 bro is cooked heh... get it? y'know, cooked. Because of the fire... heheh...

[@user-xi5zg6sv2v]

59:05 Harry might not have the phoenix core wand at all.

[@ezradanger]

You need to do a what if of what if they accidentally summoned Saruman into The wizarding world.

[@Liz-pc3dc]

Voldemort : where's that baby? Baby Harry starts crying as babies are wont to do... Aaaaaannnnd he's found.

[@bittersprout3694]

Here's an idea: What if ... A _naturally _*_POWERFUL_* Muggleborn student (either Lily Evans or Hermione Granger) was a blood descendant of Martha Steward (the squib daughter of Isolt Sayre. Who is a descendant of Salazar Slytherin and Morgan le fay) and therefore born as a parselmouth with the ability to transform into an animal (crow or snake)... somehow. The born as an Animagus bit was optional

[@alisonquentin3287]

Back to the norbert question, would norbery explode, like once Scabbers died and returned to human form would Norbert be okay?

[@Trible_F]

the only thing i would doubt is, that volcemort wouldt make a horkrux with an object that harry could call through a hat...if it was once in his possesion and then harry called it thorugh the hat it wouldnt make any sense fpor him to do trust the object again... also in the normal series he doesnt really care to make a gryffindor item after his "death" so i dont really see it beeing such a big deal to him to make it this time....but it was a great scene how you described it

[@rodan9773]

How about. WHAT IF HERMIONE WAS THE CHOSEN ONE ?. Respect and keep up the epic work.

[@OtraConta]

A muggleborn destined to defeat the dark lord would’ve been sweet! I hope they make that

[@sonofrome2339]

Hey man, you look like Joseph seed from far cry 5😂

[@scuttlebut]

I just realized that his voice is very close to penn Gillette.

[@davidstorm2224]

Not sure how I feel about the sword getting turned then “killed” but other than that this was better than the original 😂

[@lissaweers346]

hambuger are also a deadly hollow i guess

[@ocuada252]

Did Snape die? There should have been an epilogue for the aftermath great story though

[@Potterheadforever144]

No I don't think saw because after destroying the hocrux voldermote doesn't care about Snape he just started fighting with Harry so yeah no he doesn't die

[@Bad.AI.Robot_Kane-BOT]

Wow. Like. Thanks yall

[@Mega6470]

43:50 wait, isn’t the cloak impervious to spells ? Shouldn’t it protect Harry from crucio while he’s under it ? Yk as he is its true owner

[@arissantorisonmars9271]

Id like to see a What If Regulus lived

[@brendanrodriguez5111]

Man based on this, when you think about it you really don’t need the whole slugghorn mission since dumbledore already knows about one and he found the ring before handand he already suspects harry’s a horcruxe so why need him?

[@allydrake5634]

Slug horn knows the exact number of how many there are before that Dumbledore only suspects

[@danielsantiagourtado3430]

CLICKED SO FAST

[@muhammadzuhaib-td8mj]

What if Albums Dumbledore take Harry Potter as his apprentice early

[@shahzebhasan2260]

Does anyone else wonder why the trio didn't use the cloak to kill nagini?

[@leifleif1436]

You should do: what if Harry’s parents doesn’t die

[@SillySid4Ever]

What if Sirius stays the Potters' secret keeper?

[@blackpanther121]

Does this also mean that harry is a direct descendant from the third brother and he is also related to the master or used to be the master of the wand?

[@nintendoman800]

Man, I love these what ifs. Could one of you two try to tackle a what if I had? It is a simple change. What if Harry was born a girl. She looks like her mother but with her father's eyes. Also keep the same character gender should not stop them from being a big, simple, joch. Not much would change but the experience with some characters would be fun and new. How would Snape react? Would Petunia be nicer to some one who looked like her sister? Who would they end up with? Would the Harry Draco ship finally happen. Lol.

[@lukejohnson4975]

What if Draco Malfoy Had Attended Durmstrang instead of Hogwarts? I believe that Draco brings up in The Goblet Of Fire that his father, Lucius, was initially intent upon his son gaining his education at a school which actively taught the Dark Arts, not to mention the fact that I got Karkaroff, a supposedly ex-Death Eater, was serving as its headmaster since sometime after his capture and Ministry trial/hearing? It was only Narcissa Malfoy's reservations about her boy/beloved son being so far away from her on the European Continent, since I think Durmstrang is in a centuries-old Norwegian castle or something like that, which prompted Lucius to send his son to the same institution him, and, at least so far as we are aware and know, all previous generations of Malfoys that came, lived, and went before them? Would Draco still meet Harry in Madame Malkin's Robes For All Occasions at all? If not, then perhaps we get another "Harry Potter Sorted Into Slytherin House" scenario? How would the complete absence of one Draco Malfoy as Harry's primary rival and enemy at Hogwarts affect the series, especially when we consider his planned role to kill Dumbledore in The Half-Blood Prince? Also, will Harry still end up on the Quidditch team in his first year, without Draco to steal the Rememberall from Neville as a direct catalyst? And how would Harry, Ron, and Hermione discover Fluffy and the trap-door without the ruse/ploy of the Midnight Duel Challenge from Malfoy? Could Malfoy end up at Hogwarts in fourth year as part of the Triwizard Tournament's Durmstrang delegation, perhaps somehow replacing Victor Krum as the Durmstrang Champion? And what about the Chamber Of Secrets if Harry is a Slytherin in such a universe, without Draco around to steal the Diary of Tom Riddle, and Ginny obviously having no access whatsoever to the Slytherin Common Room and Dormitories as a Gryffindor?

[@hannahb.375]

There are so many amazing Durmstrang Draco fics. Highly recommend

[@b.ozgur.b.]

I always thought harry having the same core wand as Voldemort's was because of the horcrux. Since he get the wand before the horcrux, wouldn't that make him have another wand that wasn't a twin core thus not priori incantatum?

[@hannahb.375]

Maybe, but Ollivander has a sort of sixth sense and I think he says he knows Harry is destined for greatness and that he reminds him of a boy he once knew. I think as long as he still get an Ollivander instead of Gregoravitch wand I think twin cores still exist

[@uxw05]

40:34 why is there a static X on the screen tho

[@fionarodgers4806]

Which is the best? What If Harry Was In Slytherin, What if Neville Was the Chosen One, or What If James Kept the Invisibility Cloak.

[@jennb1590]

I like the Harry in Slytherin one best but they are all great. Would love to see a “what if Snape overheard the whole prophecy.”

[@carolineemmetson3655]

What if Draco was in gryfindour

[@snapshow1989]

Why can only Harry retrieve his prophecy? What happens if someone else tries to retrieve it?

[@semystick8458]

Could you do a bit "drunk free" videos

[@BilliamJoyBoy]

What if Lilly just aparated out when she got Harry from upstairs? Maybe to dumbledore or something? If James could hold him long enough for her to go to the nursery why not aparate?