WHAT IF? Season 2 Episode 9 REACTION!! 2x9 Marvel Breakdown & Review | Strange Supreme | S2 Finale

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[@1tjn]

Kahhori did get her power from the tesseract, and so did captain marvel, so her power set is pretty much explained and she has had practice and time controlling it

[@lunarguardian5523]

@@1tjn Her name is Kahhori, pronounced as ka-hoor-ti. Also yeah she's pretty strong

[@davemeers37]

Ghia is Talos’ daughter

[@lunarguardian5523]

@@davemeers37 Wrong comment thread man 😅

[@MinimalistTheatre333]

If the seventh episode was the MCU's take on Apocalypto, scenes from the ninth episode is the MCU's take on the monsters being released in The Cabin in the Woods.

[@JosephLicka]

I never thought they would ever acknowledge the end of Loki in a different show/movie so I’m happy

[@everythinglakers1713]

such a great homage to Loki!

[@shadowx8145]

Why would u think that?

[@gabrieldosmundos9948]

why? ???

[@levarukaba2]

@@gabrieldosmundos9948multiverse tree

[@alanscott6005]

@@shadowx8145 they rarely show connections in mcu now

[@carlsfc6807]

Peggy at the end is like when you get all the OP items in a video game 😂

[@completeownage379]

When you rock up to the final boss after completing all the side content XD

[@Iwillone]

Every player's goal

[@clintbrew]

Including doing the sidequests in the Final fantasy games to get the ultimate weapons cus some of them were a pain but are doable

[@owenbridgers]

And that’s what makes it perfect!

[@Rxxk0]

That's cool 😂

[@jhayashneil]

This show can have endless seasons

[@legendslug7431]

They are making a s4 s3 is alr planned just needs a release date sadly s4 wil be the last

[@PatrickBateman3116]

Agreed Tbh This could save the Mcu 🍷

[@geneeverett7855]

The MCU is dead.

[@PatrickBateman3116]

@@geneeverett7855 Nah It's Back

[@devathey]

​@@legendslug7431i mean we get s4 is already great.. so no need to be sad..

[@Trickstress_]

I thought the whole thing with Strange Supreme is that his grief manifested into this literal demon that was influencing his decisions (hence why his ‘final form’ was completely different than his mishmashed form) but when it was removed from him, he understood that this was bad. The rational good side of him protecting other universes while collecting universe killers while rationalizing that ‘oh, I could also take care of the threats AND rebuild my universe’ is where the whispers of the demon come in.

[@brandon_youtube]

I wish they gave a bit more of narrative around strange and made it less "fighty, fighty". The MCU is at its best when creating character moments. Not the actual super powers. MCU forgotten what made it great. It's not the super abilities it's the people.

[@lisamarieligreci-newton7804]

@@brandon_youtube Yup, this a million times. I think in a way this episode could have been a really interesting exploration of grief (a la WandaVision).

[@anubhavsingh8515]

As reed said, the greatest threat to the multiverse is doctor strange

[@Abraxiel]

Im so excited for doctor strange 3. His potential is going to be glorious

[@jimmylee9120]

And was defeated by Peggy Carter (only power is super strength) and the other chick (power comes from the space stone, she doesn't even have stone) literally makes no sense, also how is Peggy able to wield all six of the stones? At one point she had all six in her hand😂😂😂

[@vedangsasane8873]

​@@jimmylee9120bro you were rooting for Groot to appear in Finale??

[@jimmylee9120]

@@vedangsasane8873 what? I was rooting for strange supreme to win, cause it makes the most sense, he has the most experience in fighting, just look at his wall full of world enders.

[@aeroship2157]

@@jimmylee9120 Eh, kahhori got her powers literally the same way carol danvers did and the armor that can contain the infinity stones merged with peggy herself. Did we watch the same show?

[@eifl_]

Benedict Cumberbatch's voice acting in these 2 seasons deserves all the awards

[@DanV900]

No, no it does not. I implore you to watch more animated series.

[@robyyn_your_gender]

Please watch some more animated stuff, i can highly recommend jujutsu kaisen and demon slayer I feel like general audiences are pleased with mediocrity when it comes to VA when theres perfection out there

[@nullandvoid287]

​@@robyyn_your_genderAnime's cheap voice acting doesen't lick boots of this show for example among many shows

[@onmars0058]

Okay let’s not get carried away here 🤣😭I don’t think there was any insane award worthy moment from his voice acting in this session. There are so many more animated shows that have much better voice acting. Especially if we’re counting anime

[@aminaadler]

He was always amazing at voice acting too!!! SMAUG, SHERKHAN, GRINCH and more..he is so good at this!!!❤

[@ReelRejects]

Just wanted to say THANK YOU for joining us on this journey. It's been an absolute blast & this season surprised the hell out of us

[@Joseph_R._Azevedo]

What if season 2 was so good, my favorite parts were Kahhori, the 80’s Avengers team, and the Christmas episode. Also, I really would love to see more of Kahhori and the 80’s Avengers do their own adventures, especially Kahhori.

[@wrenwry]

Even as someone who had fun with the first season, this one was such an insane jump in quality. “What If” is somehow one of my favorite MCU properties.

[@ksdk326]

Thank you for your honest reviews a time when other channels are simply pushing agendas. You guys are the best!!

[@730evie]

Thank you for giving us so reactions to each episode. You made it so much more fun. Happy Holidays

[@TheChiraagG]

Also "Tight, tight, tight" is Tuco from Breaking Bad

[@duck-ew5zs]

More accurate title for this episode would've been "What If the last episode didn't have a script and we just told our animators to go crazy" lmao

[@arunanshadutta9651]

The latter part of what if should be "Peggy Carter's Multiversal adventures"

[@littlesparrow303]

@Julianjulesr1361thank you!! Meanwhile on Twitter they are like “WE had To much Of HeR” Like where is the forced hate coming from?

[@EpticZeamus]

@@littlesparrow303imagine people want different characters from an Anthology story… crazy right!!!!

[@THE-IMPOSSIBLE]

@@littlesparrow303 One of the main probles of this season was how it handled strange, and how thanos died every single episode

[@gazabo-gam463]

​@@littlesparrow303overshadows other stories, we don't want to see the same character but rather several whats if

[@Kanjiiklub]

I like how all the universe killers escaped Except for infinity ultron

[@manavkhandurie3591]

Yea but they probably were talking about a diff infinity ultron as the one at s1 finale died

[@FelixArizmendi555]

If he had escaped I don't think any character could stop him.😅

[@chainsawboy2388]

@@FelixArizmendi555he died anyways it was Ultron-Zola vs kimmo her and we saw kilminger apparently won that here.

[@barryalien_]

@@FelixArizmendi555Thats not exactly correct, Strange is clearly way stronger than last season finale, he was the one that put ultron in this prison remenber, Strange cannot defeat all six stones in last season but in this season he is already stronger than six infinity stones.

[@slickvishesh9993]

@@FelixArizmendi555 lol infinity Ultron is powered by infinity armour itself and we just saw how strange handled it, didn't we

[@wrenwry]

After that final scene, I desperately need to see Peggy and The Watcher visiting Loki Who Remains for tea time

[@richtang4946]

Doctor strange supreme made an ultimate sacrifice you will never be forgotten

[@sillyskater2]

Supreme strange taking on two powerful heroes with infinity powers/other cosmic weapons is a visual masterpiece. The reference to Loki at the end was excellent.

[@morebordz]

@@YaBoyCoriSo simplicity whilst being INSANELY packed and good “art” is just not your go?

[@Brook11223]

The Yggdrasil that Uatu the watcher shows to Peggy Carter was a nice ending.

[@thathighguy6980]

Honestly, I loved the chaos. I get the gripes. Not even going to try to argue them. And "Cabin in the Woods" is the exact description i was thinking. It went absolutely bonkers at that moment and i just ate it up. Can't wait to see Erik Voss break those scenes down. Let that man have his paternity leave first though!

[@qcrew2938]

He can get a sitter!!!! We need that breakdown yesterday

[@thathighguy6980]

@@qcrew2938 you're a full hour late. The breakdown done been up

[@qcrew2938]

@@thathighguy6980 Well slap me around and call me Susan! Right you are!

[@fuzzyotterpaws4395]

This almost seems like too much lol. I like the earlier individual episodes. Just so much happening I don't know what's happening and any power scaling goes out the window it seems haha😂

[@thathighguy6980]

@@fuzzyotterpaws4395 I get that, but sometimes you gotta just sit back and enjoy the flashing pictures

[@ENERDTAYMENT]

Peggy by the end of this episode felt like when you were a kid and gave your favorite action figure ALL the combined accessories from all of your other toys 😂

[@HellfireComms]

It's a great finale if you judge it purely by spectacle, but merely an OK one as a conclusion to the entire season. Maybe less if you're like me and are torn on Strange's sudden change of heart. I liked his idea of capturing universe killers, but it definitely feels like they didn't plan ahead for this because it's nowhere near as cohesive as S1's finale. Complicated, if I had to summarize it in one word. Season 2 is better on the whole, but Season 1's conclusion was more satisfying.

[@zaluwawa20]

Yeah i agree, his change of heart it's so sudden

[@michaelallingham4122]

He was always wanting to save her though? That never changed, he just had a mission to take his mind off her. Then being alone for however long he was thinking about how things could have been different its easy to see how dove into madness

[@bobbiehill7445]

Honestly feel this has destroyed the character development we got with him, like the ‘demon strange’ part of him sort of makes more sense, but still I wish if they was set on making him the antagonist that it would be from a place of trying to do good rather than for his selfish reasons.

[@rexarsenio9447]

Really? The guy who'd rather destroy his own universe, kill another version of him just because he didn't want to give up on Christine. You didn't believe he's still obsess with her? 🤣 It actually didn't make sense for me when the Watcher just left him alone but then again he never really cared lol What I didn't like much from the episode was where are the other characters? They already have a good excuse (Strange has been collecting righteous heroes), why not bring them all in the last episode instead of just these 2 heroes? It felt incomplete.

[@bobbiehill7445]

@@rexarsenio9447 I agree I would have liked to have seen more of the characters we saw throughout the series. And with Strange, you saw his remorse and regret and the end of his first story, and him taking on his role as penance. To make him the villain in this way just feels very cheap and kinda makes what development we saw of him void.

[@user-ux5ur8lx5p]

Such a good show, and love the end thing for loki, who is by farrrrr my favorite character

[@user-ux5ur8lx5p]

Sad strange died tho😢

[@rygornspectre7142]

​@@user-ux5ur8lx5p At least his final wish was fufilled.

[@robiandrei5821]

Same

[@rexarsenio9447]

Lol their reaction at Carter getting the infinity armor. Did you expect her to fight Strange Supreme with just her shield? 💀

[@SabersCreationsMM]

exactly ! if that happens still they gonna say ooh my god she is fighting wth her shield

[@frostdragon7135]

Regardless of what anyone may think of Kahhori's actual power level. I will say is that I love her powerset. It seems to make so much sense in connection to the space stone. Everything she does is related to space. Space as in location and movement if that makes sense. She creates portals, she runs fast, she stops and moves objects. Comparing this too for example Captain Marvel. Who's powers, at least I feel isn't very connected to how she got them, at least visually.

[@himanshudhiman5169]

Marvel just gave us the little grain of secret wars in this, and now I'm hyped for secret wars more

[@geneeverett7855]

Disney killed marvel. Unfortunately there’s nothing to be excited about

[@ond5041]

@@geneeverett7855For you, now moving on.

[@iamchristian1129]

@@geneeverett7855 I’m still excited what’s gonna happen, especially for Deadpool 3 coming out

[@fanthefrog847]

​@@geneeverett7855okay nice opinion now go on, no one wants your consistent bitching

[@Brook11223]

I loved the whole set design for Supreme Strange's Sanctum Sanctorum with the giant scale of architecture is quite amazing.

[@richtang4946]

One hell of a season finale

[@tannex4574]

RIP Strange Supreme. I love the ending showing God of Stories Loki. Now we know that he is not alone anymore since he has the Watcher and Captain Carter. I wonder if they could interact with him and does this mean that Captain Carter will be the one who will tell the heroes about Loki and will help him in Secret Wars? That would be cool to see.

[@koala322]

Help what? Loki is keeping the verse alive … why wud they help him? He is doing his job .

[@tannex4574]

@@koala322 yeah we know that but I think it will end in Secret Wars like the heroes will somehow find the way to free him but also keeping the tree alive. I don't know how that works but that's what I'm hoping.

[@OGYabby]

So strange was scheming the whole time. He couldn't let Christine go. When they all gave kahhori and Peggy their weapons wow!!! Great finale for season 2

[@GirlsBravoanimecrossover-cf5kl]

He never learn.

[@Marvelousgamer7697]

I do agree with the initial skepticism of reusing his motivation from last season but considering that he has been isolated alone ever since with nothing to grow off of put a his thoughts loneliness, sadness, and grief plus the manifestation of all the evilness he's absorbed become as powerful as he is I do think his turn to Evil did make sense. Like in real life typically you have other things to do to help you grow out of the dark place you find yourself in but Stephen literally had nothing to do but watch a trapped prism all by himself with no way of truly addressing his grief.

[@brandon_youtube]

I totally buy the fact Stephen Strange will bide his time to figure out a new way to rebuild his timeline for Christine. I'm surprised they bumped into that.

[@LluviaLuvRain]

Ik I made 3 comments already but Dr strange spent abt 20 years trying to get Christine back which is why it makes sense for him to still be evil.

[@FelixArizmendi555]

The chapter was BEST, this is easily just proof of what we will surely see in Secret Wars. 😎😎😎😎

[@multiverse_media2023]

Just as long as we get the writers of What If instead of the writers of… Quantumania or Secret Invasion.

[@akashvig5007]

​@@multiverse_media2023Agree

[@simpayshenaides]

Please always lower your expectations. Thats the problem with marvel fans today LOL

[@FelixArizmendi555]

@@simpayshenaides Please Secret Wars is an event, there are no excuses for Marvel, it is all or nothing, if Marvel does not have in mind to hold an EVENT as big as that at the level of what the fans expect, it is better that they do nothing, it is fair That's where they should show the best they have for the fans, PLEASE, if not in that movie, when will they do it?

[@Thy639]

​​@@multiverse_media2023what if is shit all they care about in endless possibility is captain carter shitty final

[@melodydiagames]

This Steven Strange never got over losing Christine. That was a split version that The Ancient One made, the one who FOUGHT Strange Supreme and lost.

[@joshuacollins9316]

No he def did. That was his whole arc in the first season about not giving into his desires and making sacrifices for others.

[@ShieldVids]

​@@joshuacollins9316 what sacrifice did he make for others?

[@melodydiagames]

@@joshuacollins9316 all he did was say "I'm sorry" and then help The Watcher defeat Infinity Ultron. At no point did he ever say he gave up on bringing back Christine, or go thru any sort of actual redemption arc. He destroyed his universe, and still lost Christine, and we all felt bad for him. Making it all the easier for us to believe he learned from his mistakes. In fact, the prisons he has all the "universe killers" trapped in are the same exact pocket dimensions he trapped Infinity-Killmonger and Zola-Ultron in. He was more than likely planning this whole thing since that very moment in season 1 where he told The Watcher he'd keep an eye on them.

[@chrisjarvis2287]

This has been one of the best Marvel shows this year without a doubt.

[@TimmyTurner421]

Good season except for the ending which felt rushed and cheap in the way Strange Supreme suddenly became evil again after saving the multiverse by stopping Ultravision in Season 1. From evil to good to evil again without explanation.

[@ayushpanda4740]

@@TimmyTurner421 he wanted her love back. That's what was shown even in the s1e4

[@hariefirdestian1702]

Doubt. They still make woke agenda with all feminist thing whole season

[@Isaacisaperson4677]

yea all three of them

[@MikeKennedyNFL]

This is a statement someone makes that they think is saying something, but it really isn’t. There were a whopping three Marvel shows this year lmao

[@elisabethcuningham3526]

I want a season of this every year. It can go forever. Endless stories. Actors aging doesn’t matter. It’s great. I also wanna see Loki team up with the Watcher in season three.

[@tobyc96bt39]

Thank you so much for your Incredible reactions gents this journey has been awesome bring on season 3!!

[@agathaharkness1824]

A good idea, the battle of heroes and villains of the Multiverse, a nod to Battleworld, but I didn't like that Strange was a villain in the first season, he had already redeemed himself and here they ruined it.

[@shadowx8145]

Did he really redeem himself tho? And did they really ruined it tho? Like really think about it. Think about how people develop and learn

[@echo_z319]

@@shadowx8145Bros asking a marvel nerd to think

[@HellfireComms]

@@shadowx8145He accepted his world was gone and chose to guard Killmonger and Zola as penance. Then suddenly he decides he wants to get his world back by killing a bunch of people (including heroes). That's the opposite of being redeemed.

[@holycowthatsoutofthisworld3831]

@@HellfireComms then he spends an unfathomable amount of time in solitude watching over endless multiverses seeing Christine and him in every one.

[@ivysabs]

@@HellfireComms He wasn't redeemed at all, he never accepted the loss. That's the thing, you can go on like 'ok i have to move on' but can't.

[@stevenarttv9970]

Rip my glorious king Dr. strange supreme 🙏😔

[@Brook11223]

Captain Carter went Super Saiyan with that sprinkle of fusion lol. Then mix it with operatic music playing in the background just elevates the scene. Even Kahhori just pulling no stops with her superspeed just incredible.

[@everythinglakers1713]

WE NEED MORE KAHHORI CONTENT. Her power set is damn amazinggg!!!

[@meolful0516]

I think some have forget that strange captured? Engulfed? Sold his soul as the watcher has mentioned to the demons that made him supreme strange. They are not a separate entity from his grief but a totally different entity from his doings just to get Christine back. Hope there was an episode to justify why he did this and not make us think, "didn't he just helped the multiverse in S1? why did he turned bad again?" Like for me it easy to understand that he would have that turn and do something bad again but at least we could have seen it not as a twist. The captain carter thing of why she does use the stones easily and her power scaling, an easy digestion of explanation would just be she had first hand knowledge from jumping from one universe to the other as well as being part of defeating Ultron on S1, if you notice at first she just kept using the power stone and space stone. She only begun using the reality stone when Supreme Stranger Multiplied, and the time stone to stop everyone from falling. So she did not fully used the stones to its full potential technically. But I agree, it has come to Captain Carter so easily. Would've been better if there was a struggle to justify some actions but there wasn't. Still great episode. S2 has been great and hoping to see some ideas brought into live action.

[@devathey]

Fully agree on what u're saying.. imo all the eps of s2 feel kinda rush.. like, wow okay.. we're doing that now? Oh we're here now.. i mean it's great.. but it feels too fast..

[@zhulfadillahanugrah6380]

@@devathey If we compare to this season and before, two of them have good and bad in narrative aspect but overall still good and great. "Rush" is still a main problem in "What If...?" series imo, because the duration in each eps to explain about some characters in each universes in one ep. But we'll see another Marvel animation that probably setting place only in one universe, Marvel Zombies. We'll see how they cook with it.

[@gandalfthewhite.5245]

The rush can probably be explained through the 30-40 minute maximum episode length, otherwise I’m sure Peggy would have shown more visible struggle.

[@TimmyTurner421]

I don't know man felt cheap how Strange Supreme after his redemption arc suddenly became evil again. Ruined all his character building in the previous season. Felt like the writers just didn't know what to do with the character so they had to get rid of him somehow.

[@M.A.D.C.J]

@@TimmyTurner421totally disagree

[@PakkuDevadiga]

My man was too OP for theaters that they just killed him

[@190mohammedyasin6]

😭

[@arobin6695]

he went up against Captain Carter, of course he got his ass kicked and died

[@drakenefx2816]

@@arobin6695 😂😂

[@Lord_Of_Order]

​@@arobin6695that's just lazy writing an thick plot none of those characters could have gone toe to toe with strange supreme

[@animezing2133]

I enjoy the idea of Captain Carter just hanging out with Watcher and visiting other Universes and realities. (I've decided on a headcanon that Watcher now allows Carter to travel with him and intervene, where he can't, in some Universes facing threats that could destroy them. Seeing as a theme between him and Captain Carter is that she feels he just "narrates" and he even acknowledges she gets things done... yeah.) 😊 I absolutely loved this season of What If. ❤ Also, if we just get even ONE episode next season of Captain Carter, Watcher and Storyteller Loki hanging out, interacting, I will be the happiest fangirl alive.

[@sillyskater2]

I think Captain Carter has the same struggles as Steve but she’s also moving faster and needs to have story fit into 30 mins episodes (yes, it could span the season). If you have a problem with the power leveling, then you should mention Supreme Strange being OP while Carter and Kahhori literally need infinity stones and cosmic weapons to fight him but he still holds his own.

[@brandon_youtube]

Supreme Strange was practicing magic for thousands of years in his episode. I think Kahorris use of power makes sense with practice. But I think the MCU for some reason tries to level up female characters too quickly for the weirdest reason. In iron man 1 most of the film is stark practicing and refining the suit. MCU seem to ignore this for female characters which then attracts critisism. If they give some attention to this it would help the characters more. It's always writing.

[@Soutar3DG]

@@brandon_youtubeYou don't need to learn to use the stones, Thanos used them instantly in Infinity War/Endgame as soon as he got them, it's more so about thought and will when using them rather than actually learning to do so.

[@drakenefx2816]

@@Soutar3DGgreat argument but bad point. Thanos is a being who lived for thousand of years he was studying the stones for thousand of years. The good point for this argument will be killmonger he used the stones immediately similar to captain carter. But holding all the stones in barehand without the armor (yes if you go see that scene again she doesn't have a armour and was wearing normal wardrobe when punching strange) is lazy writing. When half celestial have almost died holding one stone.

[@quietfang1]

The space stone. You know space. Teleporting is one of the gems powers.

[@M.A.D.C.J]

@@gualacheesesteaklove them both but yeah I noticed this often in their reactions to marvel shows and films 😂😂❤

[@Greenhawk4]

@@gualacheesesteak fr

[@apoorvsingh4459]

It was one hell of a spectacle! It might be not the strongest narratively, but it felt like an epic final battle and worthy of a finale episode of a "what if" season. My main gripe would be kahhori's character needed more time in the season and she seems a little too OP

[@fkkawlni]

How faminist do you want Season 2 to be? Director : Yes

[@IsiahBradley]

And now our journey with "What If.....?" S2 ends! As someone who read the first volume of the comic off the stands (I'm not mistyping; that's how old I am!), I still find this amazing!!! What a great level of entertainment Marvel and you have provided!!! THANKS for that!!!!

[@daurydavis3983]

Peggy did struggle guys, her struggle is about reuniting with Steve. It doesn't always have to be physical. Also Peggy had Ulton Vision's infinity stone armor which she took from Kilmonger.

[@M.A.D.C.J]

Yeah I was kinda brothered they kept saying that.

[@roboninja3194]

Disney doubled down on the nonsense again. Not going to say anymore cause comments get deleted/reported around here if you say the wrong thing. The dynamic between the 3 characters at the end 😉

[@cruicalrexy1220]

Nahhh don’t defend this dogshit

[@rudrodeepchatterjee]

31:10 they did not allude clearly that Strange was still not completely good. But there was an allusion. In 1x4, the warden at the library(dont remember the name) said that the demons/monsters dont bargain. Yet, it seemed that Stranger tamed their powers with relative ease, staying fully in control(except for moments) and not being overwhelmed. Well, years and years of isolation with demons and an intense wish to fix your life would crack the toughest of wills.

[@tomderuiter2254]

Love how they let us think that we'd get another villain, but it was still Strange's tragic story. So well done

[@190mohammedyasin6]

No it wasn't, it was rushed

[@jnmks]

@@190mohammedyasin6it’s 30 minutes…

[@IronMan013]

​@@jnmks but still it felt like rushed, and also it felt like strange was holding back the entire time

[@jnmks]

@@IronMan013 how tf are you gonna make this feel not rushed in 30 mins with all what’s happening? this is the last episode, they can’t just make a new one as a part 2 🙄 and strange is defending the power of the stones, that’s why it was hard for him too. the only reason ultron was defeated because of the usb.

[@joshuacollins9316]

@@jnmksnot true. It was rushed considering his entire arc last season was not giving into his grief. They could have set it up in earlier episodes that he was slowly being influenced and turning evil. Instead of just doing a whole 180 in this episode. You can still do a lot in 30min.

[@matthewnelson4746]

the ending makes What If as current MCU canon.....it unites with Loki Season 2

[@RishiKumar-ie6ns]

That was how you do a mad conclusion. I think the only thing it needed was an actual a set up. Imagine an episode just before the finale where we actually see Strange falling from grace again and really lean into the madness and the manifestation of his Grief. Then we go back to the seemingly benevolent Strange meeting Carter.

[@juanfajardo1295]

Guess the Illuminati was right about Strange in the Multiverse of Madness 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@natemongan3838]

Peggy reminded me of when you customize a character in a LEGO game LMFAO. Loved this season!

[@user-sq8wt4lw9x]

For strange part is a little unfair they level up so much the two characters i enjoy it but the s1ep4 is still on top that set the expectation quite high (in emotion) in this ep there is some touching moment but its so fast that u can't process it ( its my opinion that s1ep4 is my fav. ) And strange here is like wanda in mom so definitely she still alive

[@brandon_youtube]

Yep. When will the MCU learn it's the character stuff we enjoy that serves the story not superherodom and punchy punchy. It's weird they don't seem to get that. Tony stark, Steve Rogers, banner, Loki Thor, all character development. Guardians, infinitywar Civil war, all driven by emotions

[@user-sq8wt4lw9x]

@@gualacheesesteak yah

[@drakenefx2816]

@@gualacheesesteak 2 one was good tho. This one fails narratively but have the best animation so far.

[@TheNipunism]

They tried to do the Wandavision storyline but with Strange Supreme. It was okay but too late. Like having this storyline as an S1 finale would have been so much better. Because then the Strange Supreme character arc would have been satisfactory. Also I can get behind how Peggy knew instinctively knew how to use the stones because she saw how Infinity Ultron used them so she must have picked up the skills and use of each stone. I can get behind Kahori being op because Captain Marvel also got her powers from Tesseract and she is considered super op, even though her opening portals was kinda sus. All in all a great show, easily 7 out of 10 but just because of previous episodes. From the title card I thought it would be Strange Supreme appearing in each episode and trying to solve the issues much easier. It could have been like SS asking the Watcher why doesn't he intervene and Watcher explaining the reasoning and letting him try intervening to see the effect of intervention, but oh well.

[@kdonig84]

"What is grief, if not love persevering?"

[@LluviaLuvRain]

My problem with this episode is the plot holes. Carter can pick up the stones specifically the power stone and not get hurt? Kahhori a teenager with not even a day of experince making all the fights 2 mins less. Strange who killed the mystic creatures and absorb them all of a sudden back to life and is getting revenge by bringing back the universe? Fun episode tho🎻

[@IronMan013]

Exactly

[@IronMan013]

It felt illogical

[@himum3429]

I don't know if Kahori is a teenager here. Isn't she older because by the time we see her, Red Skull has destroyed the world. So it's AT least the 40s while she started all the way back in the Spanish Inquisition. She's like Centuries old lol. I had quite a few issues with the episode as well but​ that's not exactly a plot hole.

[@rvds2040]

wasnt that the point of the armor she's wearing, to be able to use the stones without dying, she's also a supersoldier

[@himum3429]

@@rvds2040 RIGHT! I feel like people are just nitpicking at this point. The episode has quite a few flaws tbh. But people are making it sound like it's the second coming of the Secret Invasion finale lol.

[@Isaacisaperson4677]

If there is one thing I have learned about this show, it's that the creators fundamentally misunderstand the infinity stones, their value, and how they work

[@Samlolsky]

Strange sacrifice 😭 he loves Christine in every universe 💕

[@ValentinasWatching]

When they showed Loki's tree at the end they very subtly played the music from his show. So yeah, they're definitely connecting the show to everything.

[@iagoluiz8467]

"Zombies are pretty universal". That statement shows that Kahhori actually knows a lot about other universes' cultures despite being from an old era.

[@thenerdywave2007]

This episode was so crazy and fun! The Ending with the Yggdrasil Tree from Loki was so cool! 👍

[@GageTrue]

They need to keep What If as a anthology, the main problems with both seasons is trying to get the ending to work with all the different stories, the finally should just be a big final story that puts a nice end to the anthology, save the biggest and best episode for last

[@DarkabyssTheFounder]

Me at the beginning: This is going to be fun:) Me at the end: What the Fu-

[@expiredbagel2001]

The consistency with these uploads is crazy lol! I haven’t seen this season yet but atp I might as well watch it through your guys reactions to them.

[@elisabethcuningham3526]

I realized yesterday that I think the reason we love it so much is cuz it’s largely the OG heroes we’ve seen this season. It’s so nostalgic in a good way. I don’t know if we saw anyone from phase four, not that I hated phase four, but seeing the OG peeps was so fun. More every year please!

[@user-xz9ik9lt4s]

The fact that even with all of the most OP powers that Peggy got and teaming up with Kahori to fight Strange Supreme, he still managed to overpower them all shows how insanely powerful Dr. Strange can be.

[@ma3mc3mu-X]

Fortunately, season 3 is already in the works.

[@jayp9881]

Strange quite literally consumed a large variety of demonic entities in his pursuit of his goals. It's nice to see that that method of power gain came back to bite him to show the true consequence of it. He has taken these entities into himself and those beings have used his grief to turn him into something he couldn't control.

[@clarissa182]

I liked this season, but personally, I liked the episodes from Season 1 better, story-wise. The animation was a step up from last season though.

[@LelekPLN]

The season was fine overall but there were a lot of minor things that really bothered me like. First of all, last season's finale really put an expectation that we would see the remaining characters from previous episodes in major roles. Probably still by the mid of the episode I was wondering when Nova Nebula, White Hela or Warworld Iron Man will appear and it felt disappointing they haven't. Additionally, there were a lot of inconsistencies within the universe and characters: - episode 2 - how do Peggy and Howard know that Bucky is the WInter Soldier (Steve didn't recognize him in Winter Soldier with the mask on)? It just felt like lazy writing to assume the characters know this just because the audience knows this - episode 4 - 616 Tony was traumatized after New York and wanted to protect the Earth above all else. Here he just gets to know that Gamorra is a loyal daughter of Thanos and his first instinct was to see the "good in her" and talk her out of it? Bull... Tony would be out for revenge for NY. - episode 6 - I'm mixed on the messaging of Kahhori - it feels very pro war unfortunately and making her the all noble hero for it doesn't fit right. She finds a tribe living in peace and she wants them to join a war. I get helping the weaker but something just felt off about the delivery here. - episode 7 - timing made little sense to me - I thought Hela was fighting alongside Odin before human civilization was even a thing, so there's no chance she would encounter Wengwu and the Ten Rings - episode 8 - How is Hogan a monster again? - episode 9 - how did Captain Carter not die or at least get seriously injured from palming all infinity stones? Makes no sense within the established universe.

[@trungvo9552]

now we need an episode of What if about "what if Strange Supreme won"

[@Abraxiel]

Literally!!!!

[@billyadonis5328]

That fight happened in the Sanctum Infinitum. I am going to assume that it's a place outside of time, like the TVA. So what happened there is probably some unique event that can't be altered to make an alternate universe/conclusion

[@jnmks]

there’s only one strange supreme

[@ReelRejects]

Honest Thoughts On The Finale?!

[@oneaboveall7515]

This is ❤🔥

[@jhayashneil]

pretty good

[@Joseph_R._Azevedo]

EPIC, just EPIC

[@multiverse_media2023]

INSANE 🔥

[@Godzilladreamer]

I didn't like it

[@nayeebG]

Strange was the best part of this episode. Sad he had to die. Hopefully someday, we see this type of OP Strange in live action.

[@randompeople465]

That ending with loki tree multiverse make me scream at the end

[@coulombedon]

"When did she learn to use the infinity stones?" Probably the moment she got the mind stone.

[@jeetlaha9627]

Both Devery Jacobs and Hayley Atwell are of Native American descent. Their team up was good

[@roses_R_red16]

Marvel totally missed the opportunity to remake the ‘I HAVE BEEN FALLING FOR 30 MINUTES’ line with Loki

[@Robross888]

THE ENDING BLEW MY MIND

[@hamhockbeans]

Kahhori has the space stone power. Have we forgotten the power of the space stone is teleportation!!!!

[@ZenJedi]

I don't think there's an issue with her not "learning how to use the stones." How did Bruce know how to use them? How did Tony? How did Thanos or Ultron or Kilmonger? It's always been portrayed that using the stones is just kind of instinctual. I don't think there's any training or instruction manual needed to use them.

[@drakenefx2816]

U see that's the problem of shitty writing. We tony dead by using the stones and hulk (hulk > any super soldier) loosing his arm using stones, peter quill a half celestial almost dead using one stone.Then we have a super soldier casually grabbing all stones like it's nothing.

[@Karas540]

@@drakenefx2816 yeah using all the stones in her hand was a bit much. I think it was completely ok while she was using them through the armor

[@drakenefx2816]

@@Karas540 nuh uh go see that perticular scene again she didn't had any armor or hela helmet. It was pretty much destroyed when demon from strange emerged. And if you can see properly you can see that she is only wearing her captain carter wardrobe no armor whatsoever

[@drakenefx2816]

@@Karas540 i just had a whole argument with another guy under this video about the same thing. If you're curious go check that comment.

[@brandon_youtube]

The difference is clicking your fingers and making a wish is different to learning how to tap into the different aspects of the stones powers to do specific things in a high intensity fight. MCU writing needs to get back in check. They seem to want to make the newer characters in the MCU unrealistic within its own universes rulesets!

[@patricknoll81]

My feelings on the Infinity Stones were the exact opposite: Once you get over the fact that the Infinity Stones are established to not work outside of their original universe, she did next to nothing with them. I eventually had to come to terms with her not having any real imagination to use them to their full capacity.

[@DM00SE]

Captain Carter is now my favourite marvel hero. Ive loved everything shes been in. Ok granted im english but come on she is awesome.

[@itzmehDevi]

I was just excited every time they simply mentioned Loki's name in this episode or some appearance of variant Loki... the fact that a Loki Variant that just had a gun is a universe destroyer/righteous hero lmao..Like that's all that variant needed But then the end..OMG

[@RarefactionCell]

They went really over the mountain with this finale didn't expect this outcome, really cool and epic indeed

[@fuzzyotterpaws4395]

Kahhori seems extremely OP lol. She literally didn't care about the full infinity stones AND Scarlet Witch XD

[@FancastFanatic]

Glad a lot of ppl liked this season, I just had apathy for every episode and zoned out in several of them. I want to rewatch it eventually, but I honestly found the premises themselves extremely disappointing.

[@wuzzy41123]

I don't understand the critique of Peggy knowing how to use the Infinity Stones right away, for a few reasons. Whenever Thanos got a new stone in Infinity War, he immediately knew how to use it. When Bruce and Tony wielded the Infinity Gauntlet for the first time in Endgame, they immediately knew how to use the stones (Bruce brought back half the life of the universe after wearing it for like a minute). If we presume that the Mind Stone gives enhanced intellect like in the comics, that could explain why Bruce, Tony, and Peggy would have the knowledge on how to use the stones right away.

[@Feedback72]

16:21 Another thing I dont get is when people don’t understand that a character “back-peddling” is actually realistic and something A LOT of addicts and mentally ill people do all the time. So for me this makes sense, he’s already insane, hes been alone all of this time, and he’s already destroyed his own universe so “in for penny…” 😂😂

[@BillSender7]

There’s no doubt that’s realistic but there is no build up or anything. It just happens for no reason. When someone is mentally ill or addicted there is a path that got them there. It doesn’t feel that way with Strange here. He’s just full evil again for no reason

[@Feedback72]

@BillSender7 He has a reason. It was established last season. He lost his entire universe, and the love of his life all at once and has been alone this entire time. And we just expect him to move on and be A-okay after that? To me this makes sense, we're reacting from the point of view of Peggy and we're just seeing the end result.

[@BillSender7]

@@Feedback72 I’m not saying we’re expecting him to move on. It’s believable he would do all that just you save his universe. I’m just saying it’s kinda out of nowhere. Like there was no build up or anything even suggesting he was gunna do any of that this season. Makes it feel harder to care that he’s even going back to his old ways

[@adriantepes8493]

The last part of Peggy falling with the monstrous Strange Supreme reminded me a lot of Gandalf falling with the Balrog in LOTR. Peak vibes.

[@williamjrosterholt7752]

Killmonger and Ultron didn’t have anymore on-screen time to learn how to use the stones. So it tracks that yeah, Peggy put ‘em on and used them as well as they did. Maybe the stones lead the way. I think it was even alluded to in the first Avengers. Thanos’ ward says something to the effect of the stones reveal an ancient knowledge.

[@bryansmith5727]

Maybe Peggy is more powerful because she was a healthy human subject as well as a "good person" like Steve. Steve may have been more powerful if he (in his own comic book words) didn't previously have: "asthma, scarlett fever, rheumatic fever, heart palpatations, nervous trouble, bone deformity, scoliosis, high blood pressure, diabetes, anemia, partial deafness and astigmatism."

[@Abraxiel]

This show made Doctor strange be really the threat to the Multiverse. Reed Richards was right all along.

[@thepurpleelephant2789]

Greg has this unique ability to not like and like something simultaneously.

[@dune1547]

I think it made sense for Peggy Carter to be able to use the infinity stones well because of her journey throughout multiple universes but she definitely needed to struggle more. Even if it weren’t physically, I would like to see her loneliness a bit more. She speaks about going home a lot but you never feel like she actually misses it.

[@everettjoseph6189]

And the mere fact that in the ending she decides to take the scenic route to further delay her way back to home

[@AllGreyEverything]

She's experienced military, she doesn't have a spouse or kids and she's basically deployed. It would be weird if she was too down in the dumps about being away from home on a mission she believes in. She had food, lodging, friends and she's buddies with the freaking Watcher-she's good to go for a long while. She said herself that Steve wouldn't want her to sacrifice universes to save him, and finding Steve was the only thing she had going on back home.

[@j1918]

@@AllGreyEverythingyeah I don’t think ppl want women to not break a sweat lol.

[@Montesama314]

Hela: "Tale my helmet!" Wenwu: "And my rings!" Thor: "And my hammer!" Gimli: "And MY AXE!"

[@slickvishesh9993]

Sucks we lost dr strange, he was insanely powerful, quite undefeatable, also finally marvel addressing that loki is not holding the multiverse lol, i was tired of people coming up with ridiculous theories

[@HellfireComms]

What? He's inside the tree.

[@slickvishesh9993]

@@HellfireComms Who said he is not inside the tree?

[@ajaymaan3414]

​​@HellfireComms haven't you watched loki s2?

[@sonbaty5932]

He is, the Watcher literally showed her the Multiverse

[@echo_z319]

..so what is he doing

[@alijohnson7247]

I don't get why people can't seem to see that it is still in character that Strange thought of continuing the same motivation considering how alone he is acting as the only guardian for all those multiverse killers for infinite times. I guess because I've gone through depression myself I can definitely see the grief and loneliness in Strange piled up and then manifested towards something more sinister eventually.

[@Marvelousgamer7697]

I also completely agree with the criticisms of Peggy Carter being someone who can handle so much without actively showing too many struggles. However, I do think if these episodes were longer they would incorporate that into the story. They have a lot interesting things they want to try out in this episode in another episode as well that I think they really don't have the time to properly show that effectively so I think this issue could be solved by adding a a couple more minutes to each episode to really get enough time to flush out stuff like this.

[@lgt_jne]

Agreed

[@dejajade6726]

Yeah I would say the only major issue this season is the runtime. The episodes NEED to be 45 minutes to an hour long, credits excluded. The less than 30 minutes, Disney channel esque runtime is not working out, with the other shows as well. Y'all are making grown people content, so get on Netflix type of timing.

[@daurydavis3983]

Not all characters have to struggle

[@thenewspiderman7019]

I guess you could say strange having his own plan was teased when he "offered" to watch over kill monger and Zola stuck in the dome at the end of the season. He smirked like he could use them

[@Brook11223]

I just finished watching the episode and got to say the finale of season 2 of What If...? is cinematic and this episode was even more cinematic than the previous episodes.

[@brandongomes4412]

greg: "fits like a nice sports bra too" coy: "CAPTAIN GAUNTLET"

[@BryanTheDM]

Not every character or hero needs to struggle or needs to be seen struggling. It's a tired trope and possibly THE most repetitive one in superhero fiction. It is genuinely refreshing to just see a hero at their prime, no bullshit, no build-up, and just doing what they've been dropped in front of us to do. Regardless, this literal entire time, the point of Peggy's journey is that she is still being confronted with her own mental and emotional struggles, and that should be good enough. It's not, apparently, and gee......I wonder why.

[@jnmks]

well that would be boring if they’re all perfect 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@daurydavis3983]

I had the exact same thought Bryan

[@Jayo_businessmansavior01]

Tell it to the people in the back, I've been said this 😂

[@drakenefx2816]

@@jnmks exactly. What makes spiderman so popular. Coz dude was relatable.ofc not the being spiderman part. The peter parker part every nerd clearly related to him and his struggles. The what make the character iconic