What If Sengoku Continued The MARINEFORD War vs SHANKS | One Piece Discussion

[@bdalaw]

Jeez, these responses are leading me to a Shanks power scaling video or a yonko and admiral comparison...idk Maybe a Garp video... to vote in video ideas, become a patron below 😁. My hero coming soon...

[@BragoDAce]

@fibonaccho I guess you gotta wait for the video...😁

[@trueprodigy221]

Brago D. Ace can I help you with the admiral and yonko power scaling? I feel like people don’t give the admirals their proper feats they deserve.

[@BragoDAce]

@KingOne you tryna get blocked?

[@trueprodigy221]

Brago D. Ace I’m in your sever, I would like to have a conversation on it if you’re down.

[@isaksidenius7059]

then scale Shanks and lets get the cards on the table one's more so we can agree on that he is heads and shoulder above the admirals ;)

[@withinDT]

The confidence level of Shanks speaks enough. He isn't someone who'll overestimate his power.

[@theobserver3753]

Definitely.

[@joelswilley7533]

He just learned how to be a more leveled bluffer than Buggy.

[@FireAngelChris]

Precisely

[@VollFlippi]

@@joelswilley7533 Well, on the fact that an off prime Rayleigh was easily holding of Kizaru and assuming that Shanks is stronger in his prime and with his haki which imo would be justified his threat level might also be really high as he presumably has the hightest bounty of the Yonkou. I would say he could fight with 2 Admirals and not have too much of hard time with how much damage Akainu took already.

[@joelswilley7533]

@@VollFlippi As we already know bounty means nothing in One piece only titles as many Marines only acknowledge major pirates as such. Whitebeard the strongest man, Law the surgeon of death, Straw Hat Luffy, Heavenly Demon Doflamingo etc ... As we also Know that Rayleigh and Shanks are on comparable levels even now. Means that Shanks at most can take on one admiral and survive.

[@anorangewithacapybaraunder2370]

Are we just gonna ignore how Shanks moved faster than Akainu could even realise, he literally speed blitzed him in such a casual manner

[@SunitaSharma-qu5dl]

i think someone in shanks crew has teleporation type of devil fruit as they pop out of nowhere in an instant

[@insitakaya1672]

@@SunitaSharma-qu5dl Nah, I'm pretty sure it was said somewhere that no one in Shanks' crew has a DF

[@zia-ul-hassansaeed4028]

I think shanks has more men waiting in the boats

[@extrem8475]

Shanks doesnt need to fight 2 admirals, Kizaru already sht his pants when Beckman was just beside him, meaning Beckman should be able to beat an Admiral 1v1, Shanks would thereore beat 2 in 1v2. + as soon as the first admiral or vize gets down, the Moral Advantage would heavly shift.

[@insitakaya1672]

Ex Trem I agree with you, but there are some biased peeps who claim that Admirals are above the Yonko.

[@alexcruz8024]

100k elite soldiers that some got taken out by LUFFY’s conquers Haki... imagine shanks using his taking out more than Luffy did at fisherman island.

[@jeromemonteiro8062]

Carnage

[@Ishaan2122]

damn so tru

[@yaircelis1175]

That's also something to take into consideration

[@mediumrare444]

Yeah good point

[@Nights1024]

Especially because Oda already stated that if shanks was replaced with luffy on fishmen island he would have incapacitated all of the fishmen fighters where luffy only knocked out half. So if luffy pre timeskip was able to knock out a few marines at the war then shanks most definitely would have knocked out a considerable amount of marines. And looking at the fact that he also affected white beards crew with his Haki when he went to meet with him. His Haki is on another level

[@adamquenano8563]

Shanks would have become more hyped up than he already is

[@zes7215]

wrr

[@UnexpectedWonder]

The Marines didn't want that Smoke from another Yonko Crew, especially the Red-Haired Pirates. They rolled up with just their flagship.

[@FireAngelChris]

UnexpectedWonder Lol man tried to tell them.Also Shanks don’t come off as cocky,,overconfident at all.He is sure about who he is and his power.He walked into that war with full confidence and challenge everyone

[@UnexpectedWonder]

@@FireAngelChris Exactly! Logic, Reason, Facts, and Evidence. 😁😁

[@FireAngelChris]

UnexpectedWonder Lol telling them man

[@TheHobgoblyn]

​@@FireAngelChris Unless it wasn't Shank's POWER that gave him confidence. The Reverie arc showed that the Gorosei are perfectly happy to welcome Shanks into the center of Mariejois and meet with him. And it wasn't about his power-- they got him in there in disguise. And it was suggested that it was far from the first time he met with them. I don't see them welcoming Big Mom, Kaido or Blackbeard in like that. So it could very well not be Shank's personal fighting power that gave him all the confidence-- it could well be that the Gorosei have specifically forbidden the Marines from fighting Shanks due to whatever relationship they have going on with him. Thus, Shank's needn't even be concerned about whether he can defeat everyone.

[@FireAngelChris]

TheHobgoblyn Naw I think it’s more so to who he is as a person.He is not one looking for confrontation or goes out of his way to cause chaos.He more so balance for peace.People like him are especially dangerous because if you want peace you must be prepared for war.Big Mom or Kaido isn’t like this.Based on what we have seen from Shanks,he is responsible and can be talked with.Overall they know Shanks have the type of presence and power to make things happen if he choose to

[@mohamedab9033]

the fact that you suggest that Shanks would lose, and not AT LEAST one Admiral would die as casualty, is underestimating him enough despite your high bowling.

[@worldbosspf1]

He wants to prove Big Mom is better than shanks.

[@henji9165]

And why do you think that an Admiral will die? When they are around the same lvl

[@d1dg2]

@fibonaccho Well. As far as I know the only one needing to prove his strength is Shanks. You know he has great conquerors haki is a great swordsman and that's it. All the rest is just speculation.

[@Dnie.]

Its stated in a book that shanks could go head on head against the 3 admirals so I think he would fuck them up easily because they were already exhausted and injured mostly and we only saw an old whitebeard so we didnt even see the real power gap between an admiral and a yonkou (yonkou in prime) If a luffy can fight against a fujitora and dont even harm a big mom or kaidou I dont think that the admirals would stand a chance against shanks in their state at the war I dont say shanks would win but I say atleast 2-3 admirals die maybe only one admiral would survive if BB would fight alongside shanks against marine

[@d1dg2]

@fibonaccho I think what he said is wrong, but to say it's an outrageous statement implying the admirals are not even relative to the yonkos is foolish in my opinion.

[@Stumpsville]

Shanks challenged a “Yonko” crew and all the Marines so casually that I’m taking him winning

[@akalep7259]

Stumpsville even the whitebeard pirates challenged the marines so casually, but they got destroyed. Even jack challenged the marines casually, but he got destroyed. Even luffy challenged big mom and kaido, but he got destroyed. Even queen challenged big mim casually but he got destroyed. Do I have to continue?

[@Stumpsville]

Akalep whitebeard challengers them out of desperation, Jack also out of desperation, Luffy out of desperation and Queen out of anger. Shanks wasn’t desperate, wasn’t angry and he had nothing to do with what was going on. They aren’t even close to being similar situations

[@calvinthagoatENT]

@KingOne Damn your power scaling is all fucked up no shit WB in his prime is wrecking everyone but it obviously he was 72 and sick so what's the point of even bringing that up? You want to put WB 30 years in the past for your arguement? And who the fuck said Marco and Ace are stronger then Admirals just because they could tango with them doesn't mean they could actually win. Akaniu was slapping Ace all over the fucking place he wasn't on that level yet foh 💀💀💀

[@Ashtonflorman1997]

Calvin T. U peep how he just mention prime WB and saying he will destroy everyone easily but leaves out prime Garp, Sengoku, and Tsuru.

[@BlaqIVx]

@@Stumpsville True, And let's not forget Shanks has the strongest crew besides kaido.

[@MrCristian1337]

You made some horrible assumptions: 1. Shanks came with more than 10 ppl from his crew, I can't remember if it's shown in the manga, but 100% sure in the anime they've shown at least 15 members more on the ship. 2. Shanks most likely has allies there too, or at least on the way. 3. Ben Beckman would've most likely faced Kizaru, that match-up was set already so there's no way Kizaru + Aokiji vs Shanks. 4. Shanks would've most likely fought Akainu or maybe Akainu + Sengoku. 5. Garp 100% would've sat out, he had absolutely no reason to go against Shanks, who was there to make sure Ace got a proper burrial (I'm kinda surprised he didn't attend it tbh) 6. Luffy's "alliance" would've joined Shanks, they had no reason to go against him and he was their escape ticket aswell. 7. You're forgetting the most powerful and important character: Buggy. He would've rekt all of them if he got serious. + if luffy was able to K.O. so many soldiers with untrained COC, imagine Shanks + Ben Beckman's COC. They would've instantly wiped out at least 50% of the remaining fighters. I'm not saying that they could've won, but they sure as hell had a really high chance and would at least draw. I don't see them losing there.

[@katsurakotaro9711]

I've there were 100.000 soldiers i really believe in the marine everyone except vice admirals and Admirals would have be automatically K.O because luffy was able to K.O 50.000 at fishman Island

[@aimanbabahmed7449]

@@katsurakotaro9711 those werent captains

[@-schattenpflanze-3755]

Oda confirmed Shanks would have knocked all 100k Fishman as well as Hody himself with 1 CoH. Hody was around the level of a vice Admiral!

[@aimanbabahmed7449]

@@-schattenpflanze-3755 well idk if hody was at the lvl of vice admiral bit he wpuld knock all 100k of them.

[@Yi-zw8is]

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[@updod88]

Manga : Yonkos are equals Brago D Ace : Shanks has 10 characters over YC3 level

[@zerooreos8798]

if u read 957 it makes sense

[@Shark-hn4mv]

It makes 100% based on the bounty chapter. The marines said his crew is the most balanced. This isn't something they'd point out unless it was incredibly noteworthy.

[@rexyz5875]

@@Shark-hn4mv his crew is undefeated sengoku mentioned

[@Tekka579]

Marines: we have the numbers!!!!! Shanks: Hold my Conquers Haki.. Marine numbers effectively dropped. Give Shanks his due, he came from dealing with Kaido who was on his way to Marine Ford. Stopped the war, put both sides on notice. Not just the marines, but both sides! Stops Akainu dead in his tracks. Kizaru respected Beckmans order to stop. You sleeping on Shanks and his crew...

[@omid492]

so true his putting op characters vs 1 character like that situation would even happen beckman had kizaru held and he obliged so she basically was wrecked.. luffys haki dropped half the people there imagine shanks haki...

[@withinDT]

Not to mention a very little burst of Shanks' Conquere's Haki damaged Whitebeard's Boat, it's probably the first instance where Conquere Haki hit a physical object. Imagjne that Haki in full power it would probably change the weather.

[@winchelphilemond4073]

Tekka579 Lol. Boy need to put some respect on shanks’ name

[@nmty4226]

@Hitado Dota if the war continues im sure marines will be annhiliated

[@nmty4226]

@Hitado Dota nope base on the manga dude

[@johnathancarrillo6990]

Correct me if I'm wrong but didnt the reason shanks arrived late to the war was because he had to fight kaido on his way there? And shanks and his whole crew didnt seem to have any damage on them either

[@AS-yi5tc]

Johnathan Carrillo it wasn’t a fight it was an argument they were just talking cuz it pretty sure fighting between the yonko’s is illegal but shanks still woulda fought if he felt like it cuz shanks is papi

[@johnathancarrillo6990]

@@AS-yi5tc I mean being a pirate is illegal, so just because it's illegal doesnt mean anything. Especially if you read the manga

[@AS-yi5tc]

@@johnathancarrillo6990 I meant to say forbidden sorry I meant forbidden

[@johnathancarrillo6990]

@@AS-yi5tc ah gotcha

[@samloyd9287]

Awad Souedan But also no. Kaido and Big mom fought in wano

[@jacobcalamba5785]

Even Garp says : Navy CANT handle 2 legends at once . Now shanks is a legendary pirates and Whitebeard. It make sense Navy will lose

[@nickjohnson02]

is shanks considered as legends tbw? sure his duel against mihawk was indeed a legendary duel, but is shanks really is a legendary individual? nope i dont think so, .... when we talk about legendary fighter we got whitebeard as the strongest pirate ever, kaido as the strongest living creature, roger as the pirate king, garp as the marine hero, big mom as an invincible pirates with no scar, mihawk as the strongest swordsman in the world and blackbeard as the only human with two devil fruits ...but what do shanks got?

[@nickjohnson02]

@Blueseekers 1.shanks capable to stop the war because of his political ties with gorosei, thus it meant his strenght as yonko got nothing to do of why marine agreed with his demands 2. ben capable to stop kizaru because of his point blank gun threat, when he was very far from kizaru, he aint as threatening guy as he was before 3. kaido may seem as savage, but he is truly a negotiable pirates, so there is high chance after their skirmish, they ends it with alcoholic negotiations like how shanks always does his things 4. blackbeard didnt wanted to fight shanks simply because he literally wasnt ready yet atm (his power was totally imbalance, his whole pirate crew lack ammunition, he was surrounded by 3 party who hate him for his action) 5. what does shanks' influence on luffy got anything to do with being a legendary pirate ?

[@nickjohnson02]

@Blueseekers 1st. i read it from vjump magazines in january2019, its in the same articles talks about shanks having the highest bounty among yonko , in addition we didnt know how much the gap between all yonkos' bounty, so shanks having the highest bounty didnt determine anything .... 2nd. i do said they might have alcoholic negotiations, but i didnt says anything about kaido took shanks alcohol and went off like that, when i said alcoholic negotiations i meant the same thing as shanks did with the mountain bandit and whitebeard, he offer them an alcohol and talk about some topics, the topic that kaido may took an interest most likely the lost ponegliph/raftel location/ancient weapon etc.. ... anything can be talks about in that negotiations

[@nickjohnson02]

@Blueseekers shanks pirates + dying remnants of whitebeard are completely nothing against marines atm, even if shanks use his conqueror haki to beat thousands of marine footsoldier, shanks pirate still have to face 5 yonko/admiral level marine officer, dozens of pacifista, giants vice admiral and 4 shichibukai .... they clearly got no chance against marine atm ... btw why would you mentioned kaido? he aint there in marineford, and there was only one yonko in that war after shanks arrive which was him alone

[@nickjohnson02]

@Blueseekers if you read the manga, wano war would be about 5shichibukai + minks + samurai vs kaido pirates + big mom pirates ...

[@saimanishraosirikonda4145]

The actual X factor is Buggy. If he gets serious he could cause Nuclear attacks with his devil fruit

[@kunxv15]

awakened bara bara no mi is no joke bruh

[@mssa1912]

boringgg

[@fostNZ]

@@kunxv15 Wait what would awakened bara bara no mi look like? Would it chop everything around him?

[@fernandoperez7292]

What if buggy actually knew haki and was near Yonko level but just wanted to lay low and hide from the government.

[@Anonymous-nq9pk]

@@mssa1912 im a year late but do yoy know what happens when you split an atom yeah the top comment is right

[@jasonlegend8062]

I wanna know how shanks appear in front of akainu without anyone realizing... somethings not right

[@j.fischer707]

He must be as fast as Kizaru

[@MonkeyDIvan]

jason Legend Plot. It made for an epic entrace. As simple as that.

[@insitakaya1672]

@@MonkeyDIvan Plot? Lmfao, as if things were that easy to explain.. Akainu wouldn't be alive right now if just "plot" was the answer.

[@NJP6974]

@@insitakaya1672 yes it is, akainu have a really thick plot armor specialy againts WB that time:)

[@labakabeast9848]

he a fast boi😂

[@biraypurty6665]

U r underestimating shanks and his crew

[@SirDave]

He really is. Not to mention he's not calculating their intellect, which has nothing to do with strength per se. A lot of his characters have high intellect and are technical fighters Ben Beckman & Yosopp.

[@zeezoldyck1924]

Haha it's literally the opposite, he's overrating them on purpose to make things fair. He said shanks crew has 3 ADMIRAL level fighters not including shanks himself and you call that underestimating?!

[@biraypurty6665]

Anyway we haven't seen any of the shanks crew members fighting...and the way shanks is respected by gorosei...is something else..u can't just respect people based on character... strength is also an important factor...

[@sandygarcia3567]

@@biraypurty6665 he may be affiliated to the government and maybe sengoku knowing that say "I will stop just for you" not because shanks is superior, but because he is technically on their side and they already accomplish their goal.

[@SirDave]

@@zeezoldyck1924 I think he has at least 1 admiral fighting crewmate and that's Benn Beckman, I'm not sure about the rest, but I don't think we should underestimate them either. They could very so be admiral-level fighting characters. At this point it seems quite obvious Shanks is a Haki master, the weakness of logia users, especially the weak ones that are naive and over confident. Considering how tactical and smart Shanks is and Benn Beckman, I'm sure he figures some aren't stupid and trained to a high level of Haki, so I'm sure he's taught his crew top level mastery of Haki, and other ways to beat their logia abilities. Shanks doesn't seem like a brute Force fighter, he seems like one that goes into fights with a plan and a multitude of techniques. You're laughing like Shanks is a power hungry, brute force fighter like Big Mom and Kaido, who are seemingly born with monster strength, and without their devil fruit powers, they don't have to do much to defeat powerful opponents. Not that they haven't mastered their devil fruits, but it's a different level of power and mastery when you weren't born with monster strength and have to work extra hard to acquire it. I'm sure that's Shanks and his crew.

[@adrianortiz3392]

Shanks conqueror is enough for the 100k marines 😂

[@ainz9812]

shanks is a smart man he wouldnt challenge the whole marineford to a fight with him knowing he would be defeated. my opinion

[@alitaghdisi-rad2890]

I think the main reason for his confidence is that as he is on good terms with the World Government he knew Sengoku wouldn't choose to fight him, because even if he was an absolute beast there would still definitely be a risk of him losing.

[@illenessOne]

No. Shanks would’ve won because the marines was Already weakened.

[@alitaghdisi-rad2890]

@@illenessOne Aokiji and Kizaru were still fresh, that's 2 admirals already, Sengoku and Garp were also quite fresh they hadnt taken any serious damage, Doflamingo, Kuma and Boa Hancoco were also all ready to fight, Akainu was injured but still strong enough to take down a couple of commanders. Yes the navy was weakened but not enough.

[@sittienakan1594]

@@alitaghdisi-rad2890 finally someone smart enough to know and not just to say shanks would win because this because he so cool he such a badass as much as i like shanks i really don't think he would win but i do think he would do a lot of damage to the marines but please people common sense

[@dorl318]

@@alitaghdisi-rad2890 wait I agree with everything u said except boa handcock cut her off the list Cuz shanks is luffy's friend and boa wouldn't go against someone who is luffy's friend other than that your correct.

[@korxiong2565]

Didn't Oda stated that Shanks's conquerors haki is strong enough to wipe out the whole entire fishman prisoners which is about 100k fishmen.

[@VollFlippi]

Yep also pretty casually just like Luffy did

[@isaksidenius7059]

exactly so the 100.000 fodder is knocked out instantly, maybe some vice-admirals as well.

[@yobro6053]

only fodder get wiped out, who cares.

[@klaudedxp4705]

@@yobro6053 yeah except that those fodder are vice admirals

[@yobro6053]

where was that stated? That his haki could wipe out vice admirals?@@klaudedxp4705

[@akainukillsace9733]

Lucky Roo is mid-Admiral level and can beat Akainu?! This video is a joke and you should delete it.

[@BragoDAce]

Akainu is at 60% and I said it would be a good fight for him at that stage. Did you listen? Your comment is retarded and you should delete it.

[@akainukillsace9733]

Akainu at 60% stomps Lucky Roo.

[@BragoDAce]

@@akainukillsace9733 you could be right

[@akainukillsace9733]

Kaido >>> YC1 Kaido > Akainu So Akainu >> YC1 And Akainu >>> YC2 That’s how I see it at least.

[@almightykue3914]

Why would that be surprising. In a random recruit draft they found at least 1 Admiral level being with a godly fruit. the fact that Issho was just recruited into the Navy means there are random fuckers in the OP world that are Admiral tier. Hell if thats the case and we know Shank's crew are all the elite and of the elite I mean he has 1 fucking point full of people and he is a Yonko implies these people are no joke, then all of them could in theory be VA or even Admiral level at least. Thats the issue with them throwing in that Issho was just recruited randomly because imagine 1 Yonko and 9 admirals vs the Marines present that were willing to fight and you have a serious fight on your hands and yeah Shanks might lose, but what loses are the marines gonna take.

[@TheWizkaz116]

Ty would have said...Aokiji and kizaru vs Buggy

[@davidson-728]

Ty said bonnie could beat katakuri....

[@davidson-728]

@abcde fghij he said she'd turn him into a baby ..

[@lagseeing8341]

Buggy would probably kill kizaru and badly wound Aokiji

[@AliA-by2ju]

The funny thing is that buggy could have been as strong as shanks

[@Blitz0009]

@@AliA-by2ju yep but he didn’t want to work under him

[@ProdigalSonAD70]

Just knowing that Ace Rogers son was killed is enough for Shanks to decimate everyone heck He even went straight for the big fish Blackbeard

[@RadioActiveKeypad]

The stack on the marine side is outrageous Akainu, Aokiji, Kizaru, Sengoku, Garp, Tsuru, all of the VAs the Pacifista artillery, Sentomaru and his advanced haki. Moriah, Doffy, Kuma, Hancock (who's a wild card) but no Mihawk (he was uninterested in gang teaming Shanks and left before the war even ended) Against Shanks, Roo, Beckman, Yassop (3 of whom are in the YC spectrum) and the nameless others (who could be there too or be comparable to your BM veterans like Oven and Daifuku). With Marco, Vista and Croc and your other nameless commanders. Yh, I got the marines too.

[@trueprodigy221]

Thank you. If anyone says different, they are yonko dick suckers.

[@Ashtonflorman1997]

I can really see the marines winning another round with another Yonko if the Warlords actually stay, and if the marines use awakening and forget trying to protect their island.

[@henji9165]

Shanks would have been Rape

[@henji9165]

@@Ashtonflorman1997 They didnt even needed the Shishibukai they dirent do shit, with Garp, Sengoku and the Admirals they would have raped Shanks

[@almightykue3914]

​@@henji9165 Garp was more likely to kill Akainu himself than fight Shanks. And hancock likely would not want to fight her loverboys idol, after all Luffy never shuts up about Shanks so he likely mentioned it at some point. Pacifista are not that powerful compared to some of the higher tier fighters in the series I mean Luffy took one down with little effort post timeskip. Those are pretty big wildcards

[@moHmd4002]

I agree with you,if the marines continued to fight shanks would lose,the only way I think he and his crew has a chance is by having blackbeard side with him against the marines,which is highly unlikely.

[@Roronoazorochan]

I really enjoyed this one but there’s a reason why Sengoku backed out! Not only would more than half get knocked out by Shanks Haki.. Imagine the damage he would of done to the marines... I totally believe the marines would come out on top but the damage that the marines would of suffered is unimaginable... Then Kaido would rock up and KO the entire marines 😂

[@nappingkyoshiro3393]

Yea they really couldn't continue i think they would win but after that the marines would be so weak and open for attacks that any yonko could easily beat them

[@greatrevenge6994]

If garp in action to . Shanks know the power of garp.

[@t1tony1]

This is the coolest intro I’ve ever seen

[@Erzoneee]

You're pretty much Underestimating the power of possibly thestrongest yonko.

[@icebear3877]

yeahh this guy is so bias to the marines especially akainu

[@number234k4]

Mihak use to 1v1 shanks so if he stays it marines probably win

[@fireemblemaddict128]

Nope. If 1 battle with a Yonko fleet were to completely knock out the Navy then the Navy would never be able to rest. The reason the Navy was sitting pretty all those years is because they have enough reserve to fight off at least one, probably two yonko groups. Of course doing so would cripple them, they could to it especially with White Beard dead by then. If White Beard had not died however, that would have possibly been a world ending battle. Shanks + White Beard would have probably lead to at least two admirals dying and exhausting Garp and Sengoku, or in a more favorablr outcome forced Sengoku and Garp to retreat with all 3 admirals dead.

[@m.phoenix1399]

he's overestimating his crew so the retarded shanks fanboys don't cry in the comments. Akainu was taking on all the commanders minus Jozu by himself, yet her put only Lucky Ro against him? lmao. Akainu would one shot Lucky Roo unless Roo has some kind of a hax defense ability

[@cutiebaliwFreedownload]

it will be biggest troll of oda if shanks or dragon is weak too much build up already 2 decades there is no way there are weak.

[@Meliodas-uv1tp]

Even strong members of the whitebeard pirates got knocked out just by supressed shanks walking near them. Shanks can even knock out vice admirals with just conquerors haki

[@sharroccogarcia3864]

I think this needs to be revisited lol Shanks one shots every df user at marineford except maybe tsuru and sengoku. Garp would be his biggest challenge

[@williamssundeep1182]

After seeing the massive difference in power between 2nd commander of a yonko(queen) and a yonko(big mom), I’m not buying this theory. Also shanks is very calculative, not the kind of guy who will challenge someone without knowing his strength!

[@Tolga-rm3zb]

Dude what has Beckmann done to you? How could you gave him sengoku AND Garp to fight at once?🙄😂 Garp alone would mob the floor with ben beckmann😂😂😂

[@saritajayantigoswami3014]

ya Garp one shotted marco back to his base form, he would do the same to Beckmann, at best 2 or 3 shots

[@dricedt]

I feel like your power scaling is way off. Shanks' crew isn't huge so he depends on quality. Like the SH. So I'd rank the members at least King level or higher

[@chaotica-game985]

Yeah luffy is a lot like him in that regard. Makes sense

[@silhouette_a]

"King level" like we know how strong is king lol

[@vortexdreamer8161]

Ken Z obviously king is a first commander level...

[@silhouette_a]

@@vortexdreamer8161 first commander level is not a thing. the gap between beckman and katakuri is massive for both of them to be at the same level

[@CameraSnap]

Yeah ben beckham is over First commander level ben beckham is admiral level

[@Tjay343__.]

After recent chapters I want an update to this video

[@LeonPlayzzz]

It did NOT take Garp & Sengoku to take down shiki ... It was stated that Garp was there to minimize the damage or vise versa ... Again ... Giving false information

[@jdela579]

What were was that stated ? Give proof. they jumped shiki 2v1 and he almost won lol

[@trueprodigy221]

Jurrian De La Croes lmao. No. Garp and sengoku beat him low-mid diff. They literally beat him the same day, he didn’t even last 24 hours LMAO. 1 week later we saw he was still all beat up, and garp and sengoku weren’t implied to be hurt or badly injured.

[@jdela579]

@@trueprodigy221 thats a still a L. Took them a long ass time to jump him and half of MF was destroyed. What i mean is natalio needs to give shiki more credit

[@trueprodigy221]

Jurrian De La Croes lmao jack destroyed 2 out of 4 ships when he faced Fujitora. Does that mean he is almost as strong as Fujitora? Lmao. Nah, Fuji low diff’d jack, and sengoku and Garp best shiki’s ass in less than 12 hours and imprisoned him.

[@jdela579]

@@trueprodigy221 they jumped him to beat him he is that strong thats a W for him. still took them hours to 2v1 him at there home turf 😂lmao yall wank the marines so much like shiki said pirates rule the seas!

[@lucafurlan6224]

after that battle the world government would have been very exposed to kaido and big mum or even the revolutionaries

[@marknasr9292]

If big mom did one shot queen (or will at least low diff) and kiddo one shotted Luffy with just pure strength and not seastone then there is no way 2 admirals can defeat a yonko. It will probably take all 3. Also I doubt Kong will join the battle, if he didn't join for white beard then he won't join for shanks. They prepared for the battle all they can why would he join now?

[@BragoDAce]

They overwhelmed the WB pirates. They would be facing another yonko right after. Also what the hell does queen have to do with the admirals. I literally just said Sengoku and Garp took out Shiki.

[@marknasr9292]

@@BragoDAce From what we saw in the story so far, we can assume that commanders are not that far off from admirals. If yonkos can one shot second commanders then the difference between yonkos and admirals is pretty big. Garp fought Roger multiple times and should be close to his power, so adding Sengoku was a sure win against Shiki. No admiral pre time skip was close to a yonko, so this isn't the same.

[@malopephasha5341]

@@BragoDAce guys like Garp are of a different breed from today admirals that guy has decades of battle experience n from what it looks like he probably was Roger s rival on the Marine side so him n senkyoko taking on shiki was overkill it even looks like shiki was mid diffed since only half of marineford was destroyed

[@bulletdouglas7393]

@@marknasr9292 bruh garp and sengoku didn t even fight lmao that s why whitebeard had a chance 😂😂

[@derronscott6137]

@@BragoDAce prime Garp>>>>>>>>>>>>Current Admerals

[@dennyv1999]

Bro why did you bring up Mihawk at all, we literally saw him take off already. And you didn't mention match ups for the rest of the WB commanders (13 in total) or rest of Shanks commanders (he has 9 in total). There is not enough strong marines to double team every hard hitter pirate left. And don't disrespect shanks crew thinking vice-admirals are gonna keep their commanders at bay. When one commander has a victory they aid the other, so shanks taking on two admirals is not gonna last that long. Plus the allies of luffy are still in battle.

[@BragoDAce]

Mihawk was literally still there. Take off? You saw him on the boat? Shanks other commanders would ne dealt with by the remaining warlord, vice admirals and pacifista. Not to mention the other matchups that should be overwhelmingly on the marines side, they would end. The only commander of note that wa left is honestly Marco. We saw in the war Vice admirals could hang with the allied pirates. You think Shanks is beating two admirals?

[@dennyv1999]

@@BragoDAce The warlords are not monsters. A pre-time skip dofi, moria (weak), pacifista were one shot by time skip straw hats, then those weak warlords> vice admirals. Mihawk went towards the exit a marine even yelled to him as turned his back and headed out, did he just stand there after with popcorn to see what takes place? He failed to make match ups for almost 10 other commanders.

[@BragoDAce]

@@dennyv1999 You're so wrong you sound like a novice. Pre time Skip doffy wtf does that even mean. Law said Doflamingo got complacent after taking over Dressrosa...if anytime pre timeskip doffy would be stronger. Secondly in this scenario, he wouldn't leave because at that point they're continuing vs both the WB pirates and Shanks. It took all the straw hats to defeat Moria, he's not weak are you serious? The matchups for 10 commanders mean nothing because the level they're placed at, the vast remaining force can take them out. Boa Hancock was even remaining...bruh just stop.

[@yatamisaki5707]

@@BragoDAce Unless the marines got some more admiral level fighters 10 commanders are not getting dropped by foot-soldiers and Vice-admirals. Did you see what Sabo did to a top vice admiral, LMFAO.

[@beng3360]

@@BragoDAce The onlt warlords left to fight are Doffy and Nerfed Kuma, Pacifista I actually have no idea why u even bother counting them, As denny said got 1 shotted by strawhat, and u think they can take on Shanks crew? the disrespect man.

[@breadtv8146]

In one piece blood ain't shit, you can't even call it a bruise

[@BragoDAce]

True

[@MadaraUchihasz]

What if Shanks arrived early and fought alongside wb pirates?

[@godgod6335]

If sengoku said no akainu,most Blackbeard pirates, jozu would die

[@MetakJesu07]

I never really considered that Mihawk could fight for Shanks. He has nothing to lose unlike Hancock or Jimbe who were responsible for other people's safety. Anyway, if you truly think about it, it should be clear that Shanks would lose. He doesn't have enough high tier players to go around. The WB pirates were already basically defeated, and Akainu was handling them on his own. That also shows that unless you have opponents on the level of Akainu and co, no one else can take them down, even when seriously injured.

[@AliA-by2ju]

why are so many forgetting that Whitebeard got stabbed at the begininng

[@allstarkidd6776]

casue that was because of his age marco said he should have been able to doge that attack easily but because of his age he wasn't able to

[@javilo2797]

mihawk joining shanks would shift the tides.... are you guy sure

[@daviddavid206]

Sorry but oda stated that garp was the strongest at Marineford garp could beat shanks alone at that Time and Sengoku was Fleetadmiral i dont know why so much People understimating Sengoku his fruit could be equal to Whitebeards fruit i Think garp and Sengoku were yonko Level at marineford +3 Admirals with a Admiral like Akainu who has no mercy sry but there is no Chance that shanks could beat them but imagine mihawk Would fight too who i Think is on yonko or on a Fleetadmiral Level like Akainu nowerdays

[@darkking1014]

You what's funny, that you said vice admirals could take out a commander. And yonko are on a different level than admirals, like admiral and vice admiral.

[@zeezoldyck1924]

Lmao we've literally seen admirals 1v1 a yonko and be fine. They're not on different levels, the yonko are stronger but the gap isn't big

[@darkking1014]

@@zeezoldyck1924 you mean sick 72 years old whitebeard, who is way far from his prime. Lol nice one

[@sandygarcia3567]

@@darkking1014 wb was sick but still strongest in his prime yonkou with a devil fruit that still has the same power than his prime thanks to that dv don't age, old wb have a nerf in stamina and speed, but in terms of dc he is above all the others yonkous and akainu give him a pretty good fight and equalize attacks with him in their first match

[@darkking1014]

@@sandygarcia3567In a fight between top tiers, devil fruit doesn't matter as long as you have op haki. He maybe consider strongest, but we all know that he is not as strong as he should be. So yeah, he definitely got weaker and that weaker form of his went toe-toe to an admiral. Now just imagine what he could had done if he was in his prime.

[@sandygarcia3567]

@@darkking1014 prime wb is superior to the yonkous, haki matters but is not the only thing that matters a op dv is a big plus to the power, thats why kurohige with two dv is yonkou lv, while having not any dv is just commader lv at must

[@ramzez587]

Man i freakin love your videos!! Youre the main man brotherrrrr

[@nssht9johnson]

Shanks people are fresh against a bunch of tired soldiers who couldn't take out Luffy

[@Junior-lc2im]

Yeah, the half dead Luffy

[@justnbody.5934]

He actually got saved by plot armor 1.Garp let luffy punch him bc he thought to let Ace escape 2.Akainu was about to kill luffy straight after murdering Ace but he was slow 3.Sengoku was about to kill Luffy but plot armor saved him again 4.Mihawk could’ve kill Luffy in 1 minute but plot armor again Etc etc etc

[@godgod6335]

Your opening is sick and btw katakuri would rape doflamingo

[@victormeimaris3774]

I think that some of the warlords would team up with Shanks just for this fight cause it would be beneficial for them

[@Theweirdinternet1]

let's see how the war will actually play out, rather than your dumb video. shanks *Arrived at marineford* -shanks : lemme handle the burial of ace and WB -Sengoku : No!! -shanks : Boys!! get ready!! *Shanks* *intense haki sounds* *everyone below the rank of vice admiral Are down* now stand 9 marines, 2 warlords (moria will most likely be down) The red hair crew and The WB crew.

[@shashankdevadiga2646]

And a divine departure can take at least a couple of them

[@Theweirdinternet1]

@@shashankdevadiga2646 of course...doffy,Kuma, and all the vice admirals would be down..except Garp of course

[@urougethemadmonk131]

Dude... Shanks has around 100 members on his ship...

[@klaudedxp4705]

And those member were tired because they just fought beast pirate

[@Samir-kn3jd]

Cloud Gaming bro but if they have beaten kaido and then they are in marine ford in 1 day then we can say that shanks is on the whole new level

[@klaudedxp4705]

@@Samir-kn3jd that's why I said they are tired because the beast pirate are one of the most strongest pirate in the world...and shanks pirate only got a single ship...while kaido has a whole fleet trying to interrupt wb

[@wildfire613]

Cloud Gaming nah bro they clearly didn’t fight

[@brothergunner3568]

I mean they still got all whitebeard's top tiers and if the marines do fight who will take out blackbeard. Would they let him have his way with marineford?

[@MetakJesu07]

Blackbeard cannot remain on the field because he's the first person Shanks challenged. He can't just ignore Shanks and try to continue fighting Sengoku. BB really only had 2 options at that point: fight Shanks or leave. If he did the first then Shanks would be seriously weakened to fight the Navy. In the second option, Shanks still loses to the Navy.

[@brothergunner3568]

But this is a what if scenario only when the navy decided to fight Shanks not Blackbeard. Literally in the title "The MARINEFORD War vs SHANKS"

[@MetakJesu07]

@@brothergunner3568 Even then it still has to make sense in the context of the story. Shanks primary target was Blackbeard, so it wouldn't make sense for him to turn and attack the Navy if Blackbeard is still there. Notice that he took out his sword and put it away only after Blackbeard left, then it was after that that he turned to address Sengoku.

[@insitakaya1672]

@@MetakJesu07 Lmfao, Shanks would be seriously weakened if he fought BB? Damn, nice logic dude

[@MetakJesu07]

@@insitakaya1672 Of course. You think getting hit by a quake doesn't hurt? Blackbeard scarred him before even getting any fruits.

[@SynChrATiCinHD]

Legend Brago Mac

[@BragoDAce]

How'd you come to that conclusion?

[@SynChrATiCinHD]

Trolling u bra lmao

[@robertpierce7978]

You speak about kizaru but he was scared when Ben beackman pulled up and had the rifle on em

[@zeezoldyck1924]

You're very dumb if you think kizaru was actually scared.

[@robertpierce7978]

Zeezoldyck k bud it’s not that emotional “very dumb”calm down it’s someone’s opinion anyways if he wasn’t scared he would have kept at what he was doing but...he didn’t he stopped why cause he didn’t want beef with Ben Beckman

[@akalep7259]

Fried Chicken nah, kizaru wasn’t scared of Ben Beckmann, he was TERRIFIED. Remember during sabaody? Kizaru was going to attack Hawkins, but apoo showed up and kizaru stopped attacking.this means that kizaru was really scared because he stopped what he was doing because of apoo. Even later, kizaru wanted to attack Hawkins, but he stopped because sentomaru called him, this means that the den den mushi is so strong that kizaru had to stop what he was doing because he was scared... Remember marineford? Kizaru was going to attack Oars jr, but he didn’t because Luffy appeared just in front of him. How strong was luffy??? If you ask me, he was definitely above admiral level during marineford because kizaru wanted to attack, but he stopped because of luffy. During marineford, kizaru wanted to attack the whitebeard pirates( including whitebeard), but he stopped because Ivankov appeared, this clearly means that ivankov is clearly way above admirals since Kizaru stopped his attack because he was scared.

[@robertpierce7978]

Akalep Mann your a great support to yourself and my point but we have a similarity but you went very in depth well said🤝

[@robertpierce7978]

Zeezoldyck nah bud he was scared and your making it worse 😂😂

[@hidan5812]

This video hits different when u find out kaido could have been at marineford

[@TheEckoEcho]

He didnt even mention Shank just came from a fight with Kaido. Little is known of how strong his crew is. But the reacition of everyone when Shank said We will be your Opponent speaks it all.

[@jeremyroberts8822]

EckoEcho that’s not entirely true. While yes shanks had just had a confrontation with kaido we don’t know if they actually fought or anything and tbh I don’t think they did because there’s no way shanks could’ve came out of a fight against kaido with no damage whatsoever. I think he basically just confronted him and convinced him not to go to marine ford to challenge whitebeard.

[@seingam5625]

fake we all know if Shanks didn't stop the war then Buggy would of stopped the war, to him everyone else there is fodder

[@sujeetshinde7828]

sei ngam buggy sama

[@jeromepanesa5435]

jbxjjdox

[@christymathew7490]

Bro after 1055 what is your opinion ?

[@OrlandoSHIESTY]

3 years later we now know Shanks could just use conquers haki and knock out all the vice admirals 😂 #FilmRed

[@winguw7685]

Im not sure about ben beckman being admiral level. Marco was the right hand man of Whitebeard, who was the only pirate to compete with gold roger. Remember that even though whitebeard isn't at his prime, marco is. And marco is not admiral level. Im not sure where you got the idea that ben beckman should be stronger. But saying akainu vs lucky roo to be a close fight is ridiculous, even if akainu is at "50%" we saw akainu still over power marco and the whole crew after all the damage by whitebeard, why would he struggle with just lucky roo himself. I know you said you highballed shanks crew but to say shanks 3 strongest crewmate could take on even a weakened akainu is so farfetched, no way the 3rd strongest is admiral level

[@akainukillsace9733]

It’s insane. Akainu took on Jinbe, Marco, Jozu and others at the same time and was pushing them back. Akainu at only 10% power would destroy Lucky Roo.

[@trueprodigy221]

Calvin T. Jozu never did that. It was NEVER implied they fought off screen. Same with Marco. They only had small clashes with the admirals, and then essentially got 1 shot.

[@footballscouter777]

Lol man sakazuki is a monster he did the most at the war

[@buggydama]

Marine forces had the advantage in this fight, true. But you have to take in the consideration that time were against the marines. The longer the fight goes on, bigger the chance of Kaidou appearing there.

[@vitopastrana7667]

I think if two emperors will team up they can destroy the whole marineford. Just imagine shanks crew & wb crew. Shanks vs garp, wb vs sengoku. Beckman & marco vs akainu Lucky roo & vista vs kizaru Yasopp & jozu vs kuzan Then rest commanders of shanks crew and wb crew will fight the vice admiral below. That's why world govt needs warlord bcos individual strength of warlord can fight with yonko commanders.

[@insitakaya1672]

True, but Benn Beckman, and Lucky Roo were said to be Admiral Level...

[@kingjamesaratea4333]

IF GARP HELP THE MARINE IT WILL BE DIFFERENT STORY.

[@sumeetbehera3109]

Dude if one yonko fucked the marines so hard ... imagine facing another yonko at the end.. it will surely be a disaster !!

[@Yao686]

Damn grap has already taken a beating more than any other admiral or vice admiral, he has to fight more guys than the others lmao

[@spencersteele4492]

If Big mom and her fam pulled up though instead of Shanks, now that would be a battle.

[@joshlyman7059]

BM pirates would get murdered

[@bensylver5113]

they would get slapped.

[@resilience_gaming4102]

In realit when you break it down, the marines would win. You have a good argument. But in the story, you know oda going throw a curve ball and something crazy going happen

[@christopherebigwu]

I know right, like Shanks Conquerors Haki being able to knock out Admirals lol

[@calvinthagoatENT]

@@christopherebigwu Lmao Sengoku is a conqueror too so who cares, and it's not like he'd be able to knock out any Marines of note anyone Vice Admiral or above is unfazed

[@jordanintheflesh2589]

@KingOne hes a fleet admiral wtf

[@jordanintheflesh2589]

@KingOne and shanks is not low diff beating him. Even if you were to say he would beat him shanks would really have to try to win sengoku ain't even fight except for that little skirmish with blackbeard and luffy

[@reterdedhorse1212]

@KingOne lmao alri big boi tell us what use conquer's haki is goo for in a top tier battle

[@joshlyman7059]

If the conclusion is anything but a total defeat of the Red Hair pirates I will be very disappointed look, I love Shanks, but no way in hell does he and the rest of the Pirates have any chence against the Marines, despite what most people think of MF the Marines totally annihilated the Pirates. WB was the only one int he war capable of defeating a top tier of which the Marines had 5 (6 if u count Mihawk). Not to mention imo Sengoku is the single most underestimated character in OP (leaving obsuce 1 time characters like Kong aside) Unless Shanks is leaps and bounds above WB (which he isnt) the Pirates lose easily even if the Sichibukai leave and even if BB joins Shanks' side despite of making the war greater anyone below top tiers aside, to a very limted degree, Marco and maybe Backman are , in the end, irrelevant as we have recently been shown by BM and Kaido this is also the biggest flaw of the MF arc, and any story with vastly different power scales that attempts a war, it was Akainu, Kizaru, Kuzan, Garp and Sengoku vs Whitebeard, ie the WB iraes had 0 chance at victory and WB knew it PS I would not say Beckman would be equal to an admiral, I think its much more reasonable to assume he would be Marco's level

[@nathankagoro]

I agree for the most part but I feel like if BB joined shanks then they would win and I also think that what B.D.A said about shanks crew is probably crew considering how small it is and yet shanks is still a yonko also Imo Marco could take an admiral, maybe not win but it would he a high diff battle

[@joshlyman7059]

@@nathankagoro technically Luffy is an emperor too, there is no need to meet a quota, just because shanks either has a small crew or we simply haven't seen it all really doesnt mean anything and lets be honest, only like 10 ppl in wbs crew are relevant if that, same with BM (yea we met more than 10 but Kata seems by far the strongest and even he is nothing to BM)

[@AnimeALX]

@@joshlyman7059 You can argue Queen is stronger than Kata and at this time period, Kata is weaker than his current-self. Queen totally yeeted Udon trained Luffy like it was nothing so with Luffy being stronger than he was in the Katakuri fight only to get thrown away like nothing by Queen is a huge factor in how Queen and King are both stronger than Kata. They probably know advanced Armament or know both forms of advanced Haki since Katakuri was used for showing Luffy about looking in the future. The same can be said for Doffy and how he was used to show Luffy and the reader what an awakened Paramecia is like and then when we saw Kata show off his power and he had an awakened paramecia too so it is safe too say that from here on out, we are fighting awakened paramecias and high tier haki users if they are high tier fighters.

[@joshlyman7059]

@@AnimeALX you could also argue queen is weaker, all queen did was block 1 attack. and even if he is marginally stronger than kata hes nothing to a yonko

[@MetakJesu07]

@@nathankagoro Marco can't take an Admiral....no Commander can. Marco had 12 Commanders and Crocodile helping him and they couldn't do anything to Akainu. Akainu even took one of them down (Curiel) with Marco still there. Keep in mind that this is Akainu after taking an island-splitting punch. It just goes to show that unless you have someone like another Admiral, you can't even take a weakened one down.

[@williamvallespir5509]

Your analysis is great love your videos

[@CharlesTaylor-lo6ol]

Id looooove to see a revisit to this after the new yonko bounties and what was said about shank's crew. Changes a lot.

[@Harrison20101000]

The Admirals definitely make the difference. The fact that Akainu was still taking down commanders by himself after his fight with Whitebeard speaks volumes. Then the marines have at least 2 other combatants of that level of power plus the warlords. The fact that it’s Shanks is blinding people

[@dayon2296]

Harrison20101000 smh, you forgetting 2

[@Harrison20101000]

Ddh Dayon 2 what?

[@trueprodigy221]

Harrison20101000 thank you. The navy wins mid diff at that point.

[@henji9165]

Exactly

[@trueprodigy221]

Jay veeru Z force no. Sengoku also has CoC, he could knock out thousands of pirates as we if he wants to.

[@enigmanut4445]

I didnt see anyone else's conquerors haki busting ship boards up lol just saying shank is gonna be a badman.

[@yobro6053]

busting??LMAO cracking, relax.

[@m.phoenix1399]

Luffy and Katakuri haki destroyed the wall of Mirror World

[@Orca472]

If Marco and Beckmann double team any admiral admiral gets mid diffed

[@yonkobuster112]

don't think so

[@mrmolefe3402]

Red haired shanks pirates are the most balanced pirate group for me that sounds like a power house

[@jesusloveyou9523]

Shanks lost his arm to a sea lizard. Yet he has no chance. Cp0 that guy sounds scary

[@649306]

admiral level, yonko level no such thing just a top tier level

[@klaudedxp4705]

Shanks is the strongest yonkou FYI so 2 admirals won't be enough...but I think Garp at his prime might be able to defeat shanks Idk...because Garp is stronger than the admirals when he was young

[@eugenedavetumagan6685]

@@klaudedxp4705 shanks fanboy here hehehe

[@klaudedxp4705]

@@eugenedavetumagan6685 lol😂

[@hdhcxgtsdfndogd900]

@@klaudedxp4705 you're underestimating the admirals lol

[@klaudedxp4705]

@@hdhcxgtsdfndogd900 I'm underestimating the admirals?..did you see how bad wb beat akainu? FYI akainu is the strongest admiral...and FYI shanks is stronger than wb.. And you might want to say why did they say wb is the strongest man in the world...its because of wb age...shanks is on his top condition while wb is not... So that's mean shanks could've handle 3 of them

[@vazzed]

"Shanks gets MID-diffed by 2 Admirals" - BDA @ 10:20

[@stardestroyer19]

So brave yet so true

[@TheWillszy]

stardestroyer19 How though? Akainu face when he’s standing in front Shanks says it all: “Ahh shit”. If he knew Shanks was in his league he would of cut him off mid speech and pummelled him. Or maybe he respects him...? I see all three Admirals giving him a high diff fight with them winning.

[@MetakJesu07]

@@TheWillszy Akainu is not stupid. He'd just taken big injuries from WB while Shanks was still fresh. Even if it were Aokiji or Kizaru that stopped him he'd be int he same position because they were fine and he wasn't. No one can hope to face 3 Admirals at the same time and survive. WB was massively injured facing just 1, and the injuries he received from Akainu would eventually kill him as well. That is why you never see WB fighting more than 1 because it's just too much. Even after Aokiji and Kizaru had taken down Marco & Jozu, they didn't join Akainu to fight WB because the plot would have ended right there.

[@musclehead2680]

lmao

[@trueprodigy221]

MetakJesu07 thank you. Admirals = emperors. Idk why people hate the marines so much. Each admiral held their own against the strongest pirate alive (which WB even said he was himself).

[@troyskywalker2389]

After seeing kido in action I think we should put shanks higher yonkos aint no joke

[@curtisbauer1614]

I agree on the match ups you presented and I hate to say it, but I do think the Marines would force a withdrawal on Shanks' part..... eventually. If CP0 and Kong come in for backup, it's a no brainer. But i offer this thought in exchange. We all can safely assume Sengoku did not want to battle with the Red Hair Pirates for one reason or another. Whether that's Shanks' prestige, respect or because he knows the Marines cannot beat his crew. However, if Sengoku were to choose to battle with the Red Hair Pirates, he either knows the Marines can win, or has a plan to keep the Red Hair Pirates at bay. But what i think we're all neglecting is how intelligent Shanks is. He would not offer to be the opponent's in this war if he did not have faith in his crew and the remaining crews capability to get out relatively unscathed. So Shanks crew is either not getting enough credit for their strength...or... Shanks has a plan to mitigate the strength the Marines h have left. Whether that is teaming up to take down stronger opponents fast before they can counter or something else. Shanks wouldn't make a claim like that if he was not capable of backing it up. Just some food for thought. Love the videos, keep em coming! When the next episode of the groove coming out?

[@frozenprince6602]

This comment goes right with my mindset sir 👍🏾

[@MetakJesu07]

Strength would be the last option Shanks would rely on because there literally was no hope of his crew winning if it came to fighting. That is why he didn't move an inch when Luffy was being attacked on the sub even though he'd placed his hopes on Luffy. He had high faith that Sengoku would be reasonable, and on the off chance that he wouldn't be, he could threaten to reveal more secrets about the One Piece. That is the WG's greatest fear, so even if they defeated Shanks, they would still have lost because their greatest secrets would be exposed. It was revealed that Shanks had the highest bounty among the Yonkous, and that is most likely why. He's by far the closest to the secrets of the One Piece.

[@FyeDFlowright2]

The moment you stated Ben Beckman was Admiral level implying that Admrials are below a Yonko level.

[@kyleelbuckner7211]

Think of it like this, shanks is a calculated guy we all can agree so why would he go not knowing what might happen and risk them all dying for a maybe. I think him and his crew may be ridiculously strong hence why he only brought 10 ppl he knew that was enough if it all went left... but let me know if u agree

[@BragoDAce]

I think knowing his relationship with the WG, he knew they would accept his offer.

[@trueprodigy221]

Brago D. Ace exactly. If they fought, they would have lost. Marines + war lords >>> any 1 yonko crew.

[@Unchained8358]

True Prodigy you know why oda still hasn't shown shanks power yet? You will find out soon. This guy is far beyond admiral level. There was no other option. Fighting shanks would result in serious casualties for the marines. even BB said "we are not ready" lol what proof do you guys need

[@trueprodigy221]

Mr Toriko what? BB didn’t say that. In the VIZ manga, BB says “it’s not the time for us to fight you”. Also, Shanks doesn’t have a DF, Oda already hinted to us that he just has very powerful haki. And shanks is “admiral level”? Oda’s editors say shanks and the admirals can fight equally: www.google.com/amp/s/amp.reddit.com/r/OnePiece/comments/aib7bb/new_information_about_yonkos_bounties/ Admirals = emperors. The downplay for the admirals is insane. Each admiral in a 1v1 held their own fine against WB, who even admitted he was still the strongest pirate in the world during marine ford, regardless of people who try and downplay WB and say he was the weakest yonko. No one or Oda said WB was the weakest. EVERYONE and their grandmas said WB was the strongest and even WB himself during marine ford.

[@Unchained8358]

True Prodigy The translations in the anime and manga are different, however it has the same meaning, because he backed down from a fight. BB had two of the strongest DF and he chose not to fight. theres a reason. If oda wanted he could hv shown a fight between shanks and akainu but he didnt. because he's gonna reveal his power near the end of the story, thats gonna blow your brain. Think about it

[@WhosKoozko]

Garbage video. Shanks takes out akainu mid-diff. Marco and the whitebeard commanders high-diff kizaru and aokiji. then everyone else pretty much fodder.

[@sieg942]

dumbass

[@bromponie7330]

Garbage comment. We've seen the strengths of the admirals - Akainu had the *upper hand* against the commanders and Aokiji is only _fractionally_ weaker than Akainu. In fact, those two admirals were doing well against the commanders themselves. Not to mention that you neglect the roles of _all the vice-admirals_ and the likes of warlords such as Doffy. You haven't seen jack of Shanks & his crew either - hence why he overestimates them and assigns them 2-3 compitent fighters each.

[@WhosKoozko]

Brom Ponie The commanders were over powered fighting admirals individually. But double teaming two commanders per admiral would take them out. Then shanks can take out akainu.

[@bromponie7330]

@@WhosKoozko Read my words again. Akainu himself held his own against the whole group, I daresay had the upper hand.

[@lemonsteve2385]

MOST UNDERRATED KZbin CHANNEL EVER

[@akainukillsace9733]

Lucky Roo as strong as Akainu is underrated? If this got posted to r/onepiece it would set a new record for downvotes. KZbin is full of 10 year olds that don’t understand powerscaling.

[@brandonkima32]

man chilllllll. wtf are u saying. ok two admirals could hold off a yonkou but i doubt they could beat them. u really think kizaru and Aokiji could beat kaido mid diff. chilllllll man. look i understand your comparison with garp and sengoku beating shiki but thats a different scenario. first off, garp is a diff story, garp fought roger 1v1. second, shiki doesn't rank even close to our recent yonkou. don't get me wrong, shiki was crazy strong but his main thing was numbers and alot of ships. yonkou have a lot of numbers yes but they are monstrous tanks. i think u are underestimating the red hair pirates. If sengoku refused, shanks crew would have done more damage than whitebeard. because they are all technical fighters. the marines only hope are cp0 if they make it in time, and kong, but kong would get there in time to stop the red haired pirates from wiping out the marines.but on the battle field the marines BEST Hope is Garp and sengoku. garp is the only person that could hold shanks long enough to make the slightest difference. but im sorry garp is old now so when i say hold shanks back for time sake i mean literally that. Garp is not in his prime so we can all agree he could fight any of the yonkou on equal terms but he would eventually lose.

[@jdela579]

What? Shiki is comperable to PRIME WB and roger he is stronger then any current yonko lol

[@MetakJesu07]

2 Admirals are beating any single person. It's just logic. 1 Admiral severely injured WB who was the strongest man alone. Any one else would also get severely injured fighting 1, so another is just overkill.

[@burkles4456]

Now we know that shanks crew is the most well rounded crew aka all hovering in the same power level (At least how I took it) Means you need to bump up Roo, Yassop and even the unnamed crew members.

[@bearandthebull2372]

Garp would have turned shanks into a shadman comic.

[@solodolosolomon]

Garp? Didn't pretimeskip luffy make him bleed? Didn't he let akainu kill ace right in front of him? Didnt blackbeard tell him he aint shit right to his face? Garp is soft.

[@rorypatton5747]

@@solodolosolomon yeah but luffy also made blackbeard bleed in impel down who scared shanks eye

[@samsom4122]

id agree if it was prime Garp but shanks > old garp high dif.

[@solodolosolomon]

@@rorypatton5747 but blackbeard takes double damage. Does garp?

[@bearandthebull2372]

@@solodolosolomon 1.Hes a marine first and foremost,which is why he didn't help throughout the battle.Hell he would have killed akainu on the spot if sengoku hadn't stopped him,and that took both sengoku and garps self control. 2.teach shitalked WB and shanks during the war.His opinion is irrelevant,especially since he ran from akainu right after the war. 3.He let luffy hit him because he couldn't bring himself to harm luffy.The same scene also had garp punking marco,unless you wanna argue "pre-skip luffy>marco>garp".

[@crazylarryjr]

I have a slightly different theory, i think Mihawk is a secret member of the Red Haired Pirates. I also think, he's the second in command. As close as he and Shanks are, it'd make sense. That'd put Ben Beckman at #3 (2nd mate) and might make a massive shift in the battle

[@abdelrahmanyounes94]

now here’s my speculation about this: shanks and the 5th strongest member in his crew would be able to tie or win against both kizaru and aokiji especially that aokiji took a hit from marco and juzo and also from ace when they clashed , shanks is not like shiki , oda stated that shanks is the closest to one piece so hes definitely the strongest yonko , now i dont mean stronger than whitebeard because wb was sick and couldnt use haki in the war so we cant compare. for ben beckmann , in the same interview oda said that ben beckman’s appearance is comparable with shanks’s , that means he should be the strongest yonko commander so he should be able to take care of garp if saying garp is at his 90% , he did get a nice hit from luffy and from a huge height and that was what did the damage. now for sengoku i think yasopp with the help of 6th and 7th of shanks crew would be able to hardly win ( 6th and 7th in terms of strength) assuming that everyone in shanks crew is atleast a decent fighter. now for lucky roo he would be able to take care of akainu only because akainu is at his 50% , now they’ve wasted shanks and ben and yasop and lucky roo and as i said 5th 6th and 7th , so theres 3 members left i would say they can wipe the vice admirals and moria ( tbh bc moria is not that strong compared to other chichibukais and vice admirals compared to 3 shanks members are like pest) , now thats all shanks crew , now marco at his 40% with crocodile would be able to take down doflamingo since i would consider doflamingo better than croco but marco even at his 40% is a great support. personally i dont think mihawk would interfere in this bullshit like yea hes a warlord but hes a yonko level so even if he says no to a request they cant get rid of someone like him , and he had no intention to fight against shanks , mainly because mihawk understands shanks’s intention to stop the war and he respects shanks as his rival and also mihawk is a great man. even against whitebeard he barely was motivated or had a reason to fight thats why oda said he only used 25% of his power there. so i would exclude mihawk. and the marine soldiers are useless as fuck they only introduce the celebrities when they come, in battles like this they wont do shit. so i would give the W to shanks crew thats my personal opinion

[@Unchained8358]

abdelrahman younes Agree. If the marines wanted they could hv continued fighting but they were fully aware of who they were dealing with. This guy's been drinking with the gorosei. probably is far beyond admiral level. This is why oda hasnt shown his power yet. This guy would have destroyed marineford if they tried something against him. Even BB who had two Devil fruits said "we aint ready for you guys yet" proves he is gorosei level

[@illegalalien3937]

no

[@jeremyashmead5951]

This is so simple. Shanks immediately knocks out all the fodder marines, and will proceed to fight Garp. Garp has an extreme level of hatred for shanks. But the major secrecy behind the crew will ultimately lead to the loss of the marines. If whiteboard could pummel Akainu like that, then the admirals aren’t gonna do shit

[@yonkobuster112]

Shanks is as powerful as an Admiral he is not above them in terms of power, Oda confirmed this with the Vivre cards

[@LongLe-nk4rg]

Chapter update, shanks most likely has the most strongest commanders

[@stib6782]

Yep.. after seeing the commanders of Big Mom and Kaido, I'm definitely sure that Shanks commanders are definitely the top brass fighters...

[@nmty4226]

Agreed

[@nmty4226]

Most stronget yonko crew

[@beratukshini4600]

They are a Crew Made of Yonkos

[@RandomShowerThoughts]

yep, they are definitely the strongest, I can't wait to see them fight

[@itsdariius8479]

Your intro beats up in my car😎

[@juanvilleda36]

Shanks n crew battled kiado before arriving and pulled up with no damage

[@MetakJesu07]

They just stopped Kaido, not necessarily fought. In fact, it doesn't make sense for them to have serious fight when Whitebeard was Kaido's target.

[@danielonehi2818]

you have never seen where someone trying to separate fight got beaten up

[@princeyoutuber-yq8hf]

kaido took no damage either he doesnt have any scar beside the one given by oden

[@vlpstorytime1039]

Brooo I was bouta go to bed😐but ngl your vids are dope af‼️

[@ayashhome2584]

you should do this video after knowing that conqurers haki can be coded with attacks

[@ayashhome2584]

you also should understand shanks crew has the highest average bounty of all the yanko so that speaks for it self

[@ayashhome2584]

after what kaido said i dont think that shanks would lose to any admiral know that

[@ayashhome2584]

i disagree with your conclution

[@godson7891]

That bartender was gonna get smoked

[@trueprodigy221]

Lmao. The marines would have dominated. Even if the remaining WB pirates helped out, the marines had too many top tiers there. I haven’t watched the vid yet, but if you in any way try and say shanks would win, I’m downvoting.

[@TouYang_89]

you should do a video on what if ace is luffy blood brother and dragon actually take part of the War. what do you think would happen??? look foward to the vid!!!

[@klaudedxp4705]

Dragon will come and oblirated marineford..can you imagine that dragon used his DF to create a tornado...that'll flung almost everyone into the sea XD

[@deathtrick]

Everyone Dies When Buggy D Clown awakens his haki of the supreme king.

[@roshan-no4ud]

Whatever you said are correct, but if shanks gets attacks by WG I think the dark king will join the battle because he is already in his way to teach luffy