What If Shay Patrick Cormac Never Left The Assassins? (Assassin's Creed: What If)

[@LazerzZ]

I had to find some way of fitting "I make my own luck" in there somewhere xD

[@saribbaig5305]

LazerzZ Holy shit this was such a good story holy fuck

[@lukytay]

Assassins rogue is my favourite Assassins creed

[@faddishname2287]

I always find these what if's sad why? because we will never see these great stories and ideas in an actual ac game

[@faddishname2287]

hungry joker I would think yes because this happens after haythem goes to the colonies and starts up the Templar order which is when he made conner all over the the temple entrance floor if you know what I mean

[@austinhub123]

LazerzZ Do ur take on this kzbin.info/www/bejne/qpawkJ2npNtlmKM 😁

[@CheddarMannn]

4 words that could change history: "Tell me, what happened?" -Achilles

[@mazireigiem8760]

Is it just me or are shays templare outfit the best looking robes ever heck they even fit arno and that is an acompleshment and a half

[@nguyetdieu4142]

@@mazireigiem8760 Same.

[@malmann7066]

They make the assassins just like the Templars in the old games

[@hansr3281]

@@mazireigiem8760 agree its sick

[@frederikferguson2571]

@@malmann7066 Which I think was kinda the point

[@nikthedestroyalator6796]

"What If Shay Patric Cormack Never Left The Assassins" aka "What If Achilles Wasn't A Shite Leader"

[@isaacezekielthecolorblindg7343]

Yep

[@ZFLBF]

lol

[@Cumslut720]

If you play ac 3 Achilles Tells Connor “in your haste to save the world be careful you don’t destroy it” he realizes his mistake

[@apollo8586]

@@Cumslut720 at least he learned from his mistake

[@spentlizard353]

Aka “What if Shay had actually realized Lisbon was a complete accident beyond anyone’s control?”

[@alincarabet1743]

All of this could been avoided Only if achilles would have listened to shay And also this story would have been fantastic

[@BOSSFIGHTWARRIOR]

alin carabet agreed

[@norlyngibe9215]

alin carabet

[@norlyngibe9215]

alin carabet

[@mr_boats]

alin carabet, well, Achilles did realized the Sites where dangerous, that’s why he was spared by Shay

[@Ninjaboy321BK]

He did... Well To Late

[@lilmochavert9947]

What if Ezio fled from Florence to Spain as he originally had planned rather than staying with Mario at Monteriggioni?

[@vivusbrydyr4039]

then he wouldn't receive the training, either would manage to find some sort of work and live a common life, or would eventually be hunted down just in case

[@ArcherDrake287]

lol going to Spain is a mistake since the Borgias are Spaniards and Ezio, Claudia and Maria will be easily be hunted down

[@LoneWolf-nr1km]

"Pizza time!"- Ezio

[@koburrr]

then we might have had a chance to play as aguilar

[@himmeIskorper]

we all die thats what happens

[@Niernatsu]

“I MAKE MY OWN LUCK”

[@edgyomellete0121]

The GMSloth how many times does he have to say it 😂😂😂😂😂

[@anthonys6417]

Cool Pillow at least in the thousands, what you should ask is how many times in Origins do people say "medjay" my god I would die counting

[@edgyomellete0121]

The Doc LOL!

[@hammodiyourbud5199]

I thought hey said shay I make my own look but it's luck

[@harryborded5294]

I don't know luck was a stuff!!

[@AbrarSikandar]

Wish Ubisoft used this story . Man you're so talented and creative

[@edgyomellete0121]

shay Patrick Cormac so r u

[@AbrarSikandar]

Cool Pillow. what do you mean

[@edgyomellete0121]

shay Patrick Cormac u are the Templar of the American right may the father of understanding guide u

[@AbrarSikandar]

Cool Pillow .no , I am not a templar not an assassin

[@edgyomellete0121]

But ur shay cormac u must be a Templar

[@mihcci]

Shay: expleanes Achilies: ok i understand *credits roll in*

[@MassiveMyatt]

God I wish Connor's story began like this!

[@briansaladaga5773]

MassiveMyatt this would have been SO much better

[@mustachio2]

I agree.

[@1980Shadowwolf]

Although if Lee was killed then the fire never would of broke out at the tribe Remember Lee. was the one who set fire to Connors homeland still it would of been a good outcome. If Connor became a Assassin not for revenge however to protect the people.

[@chowdercat1776]

Agree.

[@chowdercat1776]

1980Shadowwolf It was actually Washington who did it, I think. I believe it says it in Assassin's Creed Forsaken

[@Mectrex]

Not sure about you guys but rogue is one of my favorite ac games.

[@adamik123]

Rogue may have had Black Flag's gameplay, but the story was GREAT, in my opinion

[@kingjay6009]

You a traitor too? You know what we do to traitors? We piss in their apple juice... and put it back in their lunch boxes.. don't Fuk with the creed!

[@Liakos953]

Mectrex my personal favorite

[@MilestheDirtyMindedGoblin2099]

Mectrex same

[@_MaximusM_]

Mectrex yup I agree I liked it alot

[@coreblue762]

I like the idea of adewale raising Connor, his best friend’s grandchild. It would be interesting to see Connor find out his father was killed by Adewale but then later find out that his grandfather was an assassin.

[@DeathstroketheTerminator]

To think that Shay staying an assassin could make Connor become a templar when he finds out how his father did

[@fastasgaupthebargaining7174]

What adewale did not kill edward hes was outnumbered and stabbed adewale left edward long by that time

[@fatspyro4630]

@@fastasgaupthebargaining7174 he meant Connors dad aka haytham not edward

[@fastasgaupthebargaining7174]

@@fatspyro4630 oh ok

[@Cumslut720]

They didn’t know it was haythams sin

[@TBWL195]

Then Arnos (AC Unity) father wouldn’t have been killed

[@JamesZ32100]

The French Revolution would either never happen, or would end quicker too

[@Lolpy.]

Ooh, Arno wouldn’t have been an assassin then wouldn’t he?

[@ionga]

@@Lolpy. He would, since his father was one.

[@lihan6870]

@Sherlock Whole mess De La Serre would still have been assassinated I think. Charles Dorian wouldn't really have had that big of an effect on the dudes who tried to overthrow De La Serre, cuz there are always those who disagreed with him. In conclusion, the French assassins and templars would still be against each other, although the whole situation would be wrapped up quicker because of the support the assassins would get from the colonies.

[@hansr3281]

@Sherlock Whole mess there is always that one extremist guy to ruin that ya know

[@dalton1860]

rogue is a little bit under rated

[@mustachio2]

Uh no. Rogue is over rated

[@noboace101moomoocowisgood8]

Anarchy agreed

[@יותםגיל]

fuck of

[@w8niko_405]

NatePlayz gaming modding and more How is it overrated it's a good game

[@wyattcheramie004]

Love Rogue because it is very similar to Black Flags

[@rik5384]

Stay your blade from the flesh of the innocents. 'Not my fists though, 'cause I punch innocents whenever I want.'

[@urboijeff2545]

dadedododadada that's all i want to say to you gaming sins much

[@spookynonce2277]

dadedododadada that's all i want to say to you AC2 😂

[@rik5384]

ur boi jeff yup

[@rik5384]

Robbie Sey ac2?

[@Demolition89336]

It says nothing about beating the shit outta em and dropping their unconscious body into a river

[@brackyt1906]

What if Shay trained Connor

[@homersimpson6585]

Sam Bilzerian haythem let Connor kill him

[@homersimpson6585]

Sam Bilzerian I don’t hate Connor but I prefer haytham

[@Abhinav-ss3th]

Shay would have let Connor kill his father anyway

[@Real_NormalGuy]

Connor would use less tomahawk and more hidden blade

[@Kensho-gw5cp]

If shay never left assassins I think shay would try to kill haythem, but haythem would defeat him, probably

[@LongEaredFox_]

W-wait... i-is that w-what I think it is? I-is that the *r-rogue t h e m e*

[@xchaxseyx1282]

Stutter

[@imlagging3653]

Fizhy longEAredfox lazerzz

[@jmscrazy90j75]

Stutter yo ass outta here boy you ain’t a anime character THIS IS THE BROTHERHOOD

[@primuspilus44]

This is really good, your knowledge of the more obscure lore is brilliant!

[@LazerzZ]

Thanks a bunch man, It's nice when my 10 years of nothing but lore consumption is praised xD

[@markkrousos5011]

That was really good. Keep making this kind of videos.

[@andregoldstein6220]

I wish this was this was a game because it's just such a great story

[@thegamingcocoa]

The ending gave me goosebumps! Imagine how interesting the story of assassin's creed 3 would be if Connor and shay's story happened that way!

[@DatMentalGamer]

I love the ending with connor being picked up by shay and the other assassins

[@SecukupAli]

They should make a dlc called “alternate story” in ac rogue with this story

[@yoinkreal]

Yes like dlc of ac3

[@mitchell1976]

Please do what if Desmond didn't die and What if Connor became a templar!

[@SonicFan147]

The modern day would certainly be more interesting if Desmond didn't die. And a LOT of things would change if Connor was a Templar so yeah, I agree with this.

[@SonicFan147]

That is true but him and Ziio broke up before his birth so...

[@dmv118]

@@SonicFan147 I don't think they broke up. I think Haytham just got to busy being with his Templar business and doesn't have time with Ziio.

[@hemijay7183]

@@victorsrur134 he isn't indian?

[@victorsrur134]

@@hemijay7183 yeah sorry,native american?

[@potatopc9205]

oh man i love it!!!! im just finish playing 1, 2 , brotherhood, revelation , 3 , black flag , rouge and preparing for unity . your story is amazing

[@camaronpotts4214]

I think you could do a video on what if Altair killed Robert de Sable in Solomon's temple

[@SonicFan147]

That's a good point... since we don't know who killed Kadar. If it was Robert, not one of his men, then Malik or the other assassins wouldn't have a reason to hate Altair but at the same time, Al Mualim probably would have punished Altair anyway for his disregard of the creeds.

[@tizukis4343]

And them they all sat down and drank infront of the Kenway Manor

[@OnyxArclight]

Octagus Plays Edward wouldve wanted it that way

[@reecevince2166]

I left my phone on the radiator and the notification I got from this video scared the shit out of me cheers james 😂😂😂😂😂

[@MilestheDirtyMindedGoblin2099]

The British Guild of Assassins 😂😂😂

[@danieldriscoll2155]

I always think about why a radiator should be called a convector every time I see or hear the word radiator

[@JoshuaPrime]

Haytham: May the best man win Shay: I make my own luck Haytham: "The Fuck?"

[@davidscott5406]

"Several days later" bruh that trip london from America is like 1 to 2 months

[@hazzywazzeh]

This was really good for a fan fiction, Ubisoft should definitely hire you for storytelling.

[@chowdercat1776]

OMFG!!! This was so great. Thank you for making it.

[@alincarabet1743]

This must be heard by ubisoft Maybe they will make a game

[@vinikenway2725]

Holy damn!!! That was amazing bruuu, Ubi could really take a look at this video

[@mrkbd7069]

What if Ezio killed Rodrigo Borgia in AC2?

[@gorkhawarlord4943]

I am pretty sure that the events of AC Brotherhood will be same just with no with no Rodrigo.

[@emmanuelbongar7370]

MrKBD That won’t stop Cesare from invading Monteriggioni

[@dmv118]

Ezio did say to Machiavelli that killing one man will not make a difference.

[@ThatGenericPyro]

Easy: The fabric of reality would unfurl because he died earlier than he was supposed to. (Also Cesare would've still attacked Monteriggioni because The Borgia were twats)

[@murugesankarthikeyan7821]

@@gorkhawarlord4943 No Ceaser would have won.Did you forget he was poisoned by the pope? This made Ceaser slower and Ezio became the one to take the apple first.

[@brohit2500]

the concept that shay would become connor's mentor feels so satisfying and good

[@jaks2706]

Damn that was good

[@Shawn4815162342]

Also, with Shay staying an Assassin, Arno might have been raised by his father and not De la Serre; meaning the two of them could have continued their fight for Unity.

[@voiavictor]

Ish, an awesome interpretation. But we all know that this one feels so epic just because the actual events in the games happened the way they did

[@BrandonCuringtonOfficial]

This story is okay but the original right now is probably so much more interesting. The fact that Shay as a Templar fought for a good cause in the same time Connor as an assassin fought for a good cause too. That's why I want one more assassins creed colonial game in a showdown between Connor and Shay.

[@briansaladaga5773]

Yeb_Yeb they'd never fight cuz their reasons for being a templar and an assassin's wouldn't make them fight

[@briansaladaga5773]

Yeb_Yeb reasons that wouldn't allow Connor to know of shay and reasons that would not make shay want to kill Connor

[@saitysalmon5719]

If he remained an assassin rogue wouldnt have happened the end or your story could happen.

[@LazerzZ]

Wow thanks for the answer to my question bro, I that's exactly why I made this video, to get a good ol' clean cut answer to this tough question from Red Death himself, eternal thanks brother.

[@IsaactheAssassinAllen]

There needs to be a dlc for rogue where you play as Hope building up the assassin's gangs in the colonies before the events of rogue. But that's just my opinion. Hope is one of my favorite characters.

[@brokenbridge6316]

Hey LazerzZ---I've got a suggestion. Can you do a video on "What if" Connor managed to corner and kill Charles Lee at Fort George instead of Haythem in AC: 3. Wouldn't that make a great video. Or would it be not good enough.

[@wailingaphid]

Broken Bridge that seems like a great idea

[@brokenbridge6316]

Thank you very much wailingaphid gamer.

[@jeremycampos4738]

Broken Bridge too little to talk avout

[@brokenbridge6316]

Jeremy Campos---Do you have any idea's to possibly make it better? And believe me that's an honest question. I would like to hear what you have to say.

[@brokenbridge6316]

Or maybe a "What if" can be done on this. "What If" Arno's father hadn't been Assassinated by Shay. Or maybe what if Elise managed to kill Germain without Arno's help and essentially take over the Templar order. Would those make for nicer suggestions.

[@CoolGuy-xf3hb]

If this was canon I can imagine Connor going to London and taking it back from the Templar’s

[@coxyozora7510]

Who makes better story: The whole team of ubisoft Or One KZbinr boiii

[@ZanethMedia]

These keep getting better and better my dude!

[@proudbandito]

wouldn't that just be glorious

[@shauryalall]

really good ,nice explanation ,perfect images ,everything explained in correct order and amazing commentary without fumble . Really good. also an amazing idea . I am a fizhy subscriber but like u equally.

[@FRISHR]

Great story telling and production quality bro!

[@sylophyn]

A great what-if story. Although the last fight seemed a little unrealistic. Haytham and Charles were outnumbered. Hope, Le Chasseur, and the rest are more trained than Shay yet they were cut down quickly as if Haytham and Charles were like Darth Sidious slaughtering Jedi Masters. I do believe that more assassins would've lived that incident. Haytham may be a Grand Master Templar and Charles quite skilled as well, but they can only take on a few highly-trained assassins before dying.

[@jamesrason3731]

James your what if videos are all ways fun to watch keep up the great work

[@Boxsteam]

So shay and friends left England and got back to the colonies in a few days? That's some fast travel right there

[@emanuelmaris7482]

This was absolutely fantastic ! Well done !

[@Jack-sc3dn]

Who the fuck writes the stories we end up getting?

[@cra0422]

Really shows just how different things could have been if Achilles and Shay had simply been able to keep their tempers and egos in check. Personally I wondered if Achilles had sent Shay to inspect the one in the Arctic that was seen in the end of Rogue instead of Lisbon, it would still set off an earthquake but would happen in an isolated area.

[@masterassassin6688]

God I wish this is all really what happened. Imagine how much cooler rogue would have been if it had this story

[@soulhunter4849]

It would not match ac 3

[@akirathewildcard9625]

This should be dlc alternate timeline for rogue ALSO great way of fitting in, "I make my own luck!" In there. It was honestly AWSOME

[@smeagol2742]

Rogue not rouge(red)

[@akirathewildcard9625]

@@smeagol2742 got it sorry

[@Stranger312656]

There's problem with your theory if Charles Lee wasn't around Connors village would never been burned which lead to Tyrant Washington Dlc.

[@briansaladaga5773]

Squek um first civ mumbo shumbo makes someone burn the village? I don't know I tried

[@josedominguez5588]

Squek yeah that's true

[@CNRSyndicate]

It could have been caused by George Washington, casue in the AC3 story Connor is shown by Haytham that Washington has men going to destroy his village. Maybe in this alternate timeline they were attacked years ealier than in the game. Or maybe they were caught between two warring factions, since France, Spain and England all had claims to the colonies. Whatever happened, Connor couldn't be the way that we see him in the games, since his father wouldn't be Haytham and he would be less likely to be on a mission to avenge his village and people.

[@glowhoo9226]

Matyáš T. No lee did burn the village, Washington only sent men after the natives because they sided with the British

[@glowhoo9226]

CNRSyndicate lee still burned the village, Lee even admits to it later on, Washington never harmed the natives until they decide to help the British

[@krowentheunknown7848]

if you read forsaken you should know after haythem returned after saving Jenny and Killing Birch he began resenting the templar order so he wouldn't have been as composed as you depict in your own story which sounds great but I think after what haytham found out about his father and everything and then being brought back to the Kenway manor I think Haytham would have went rogue or turned coat and continued his fathers legacy but it would triggered something but because he never had anything else to trigger the trauma thats why we seen him talking smack about edward in rogue

[@cyberceltic]

I have some ideas for future ‘what ifs’: -What if Ezio killed Rodrigo Borgia at the end of AC2? -What if Ezio was able to save his father and brothers? -What if Altair didn’t accidentally kill Maria? -What if Ezio did take Altair’s Apple of Eden at the end of Revelations? -What if Elise didn’t die at the end of AC Unity? -What if Desmond wasn’t forced by Juno to kill Lucy? -What if Daniel Cross didn’t betray the Assassin’s? I know he was a sleeper agent but what if during that time he became loyal to the brotherhood?

[@SonicFan147]

Unfortunately I think most of these stories would still be the same. - Brotherhood (the game) possibly wouldn't have existed/there wouldn't be a major target to assassinate/different main target. - Then Ezio's father would have trained him to be an assassin as well as his older brother, Federico. - Then the two would have continued to fight and possibly kill Abbas. - Then he would have possibly been consumed by it's power. - Then Lucy would continue to fight but would ultimately betray Desmond, Rebecca and Shaun since she's a triple agent. (Sorry, I left some out since I'm not very familiar with Unity's story events/Daniel Cross)

[@mrmalcolm]

Hope wouldn't have died. She'd have poisoned Haytham while running away like a bitch forcing Haytham to chase her for the antidote, staying on the move so his heart wouldn't stop, but also needing to stay undetected for the bonus objective.

[@jeremycampos4738]

I love these videos

[@LuzHernandez-cn7zm]

I love all his vids

[@2Scribble]

Subtitle: What if Achilles hadn't been so heavily addicted to those crazy pills? :P

[@TheMilitaryLegend]

I loved this!! That was awesome! Thank you for doing this!

[@harshitsharma2014]

I MAKE MY OWN LUCK

[@Blacklungs-Sanji]

rogue is a top tier game because it answered questions all over the place from Black flag’s Adewalé, Ac3 Achilles, the fact achilles had a son named connor before CONNOR ( didn’t even realize until rogue) and showed the balance between the two causes, because they’ve both always had the same goals of peace, but execute their plans differently

[@kristijankocjancic3236]

I wish something like this was an expansion for Rogue, kind of the same concept as The Tyranny of King Washington, an alternate reality.

[@cap1841]

I love you man, your vision to shay is a good idea

[@giuSE2004]

Rogue will always be my favorite ac game

[@troyankee3089]

The only bit I questioned was with Haytham. It was in Damascus after he rescued Jenny that he learned Edward was an assassin and he had contemplated his life choices. He then decided to stick to his beliefs and I don’t think he’d hesitate just because Adewale mentioned Edward.

[@BabaAlex505]

What if Connor killed George Washington for burning his village

[@LoneWolf-fx9lm]

Connor would become president of America.

[@kzkva-m2g]

@@LoneWolf-fx9lm wait, really?

[@renukapallege5970]

Love your work.Keep up this series.

[@adamik123]

See, why can't they just remake Rogue? Or perhaps just remaster it with better graphics and shit?

[@ptlemon1101]

cuz is still like 3 years old. came the same time as unity

[@whitteewollff]

Or Even Expand Its Story

[@jakesaunders6015]

your wish has been granted

[@harryborded5294]

Because Rogue sucks

[@goldenjebboni1331]

Holt Hazel No, because you suck

[@skybl0ksnl]

Nice Job! This would be such a cool begin of Connor's story..

[@spaghetti0s115]

What if Arno hunted shay ………

[@bakerzane3055]

@Nripesh Lamichhaney Yes he would be at the same age as Ezio was(estimated), which Ezio was still a badass.

[@Sanstheskeleton-rf6jj]

If i need to hunt down shay i will not why?: WHAT HAPPENED IN HAYTI HAPPENED IN PORTUGAL THIS MAD GRAB THE POWER NOW. Just joking if i need hunt shay i will knock him out just like i do when i do pacifist in ac rogue

[@EmperorOfTheScrubs]

Also, the underlying theme of AC Rogue is that the good guys will be jerks while the bad guys will be nice Kind of a weird theme to have

[@filmwatcher6968]

Where is Monroe Edit: like that ade killed haytham

[@H_cked]

if this was the orginal ac rogue game we got, this game would have won game of the year, just imagine 12 sequences worth or adventure. I wish we got an epic game like that instead of what we got. it would honestly add more depth to connor

[@danielcelta2333]

Assassins Creed. The Rising Empire

[@tacobaco6460]

Another great video James, I have to admit though Haytham's death was fucking sad

[@darkvortex2410]

Can u make a part 2

[@edgyomellete0121]

Dark Vortex lol

[@japanman5113]

My dad fucked a koala and i was born

[@jamesbond1126]

Would anybody have loved to see a shay trilogy? Maybe during the first you play as an assassin who tends to question the creed and at the end you have the Lisbon earthquake. In the second you have shay wandering the world following his own creed. Tying to keep the assassin's away from the precursor sites and meeting people like Christopher Gist (or maybe some more interesting character to have as your first mate). Then in the final one you have him as a fully fledged Templar. I think this story could have done a lot better with more than one game and certainly with more then 6 sequences. This could have made way for things like developing shay and Liam's friendship more and had that be more emotional as I felt that was lacking in rogue.

[@scotty_a2115]

I’m early I guess I should make a joke Shrek is green His swamp is greener When I think of you I play with my weenier

[@clefton3112]

Loved it man this was really good imo :)

[@erikknudsenmork4536]

What happend to arno then?

[@imadewahyuwidyatmika_1381]

pilotcooper his father will not death because shay not kill charles dorian :)

[@abyvincematthews286]

You made whole multiverse.......KEEP MAKING SUCH VIDEOS!!!!

[@noot_noot__]

Shay,conor,and Edward are my favourite

[@_TheGhostChild_]

Great video man :D Keep it up

[@tapio2heinonen]

Shay's "I make my own luck" quote makes me very very triggered

[@tapio2heinonen]

Because he repeats the same sentence so many times during the main story

[@adamik123]

Would you be happier if he was saying something like: You've failed this city, Or, I'm not the hero this city needs, but the one it deserves?

[@tapio2heinonen]

No, it's just a very arrogant expression.

[@Demolition89336]

Tapio Heinonen yes but that shows that he's an arrogant person.

[@tapio2heinonen]

Demolition Gaming True and that sucks

[@ShotoTodoroki-go6dp]

Not only Gist would be dead but Charles Dorian would be alive

[@jasmyslowski8886]

that was a beautiful story I really really liked it well done can't wait for the next one

[@tidus96]

Dude.. this should be a game story!! Great job!

[@thefirstrobin9909]

Yo this is amazing man make more of these

[@MRKESTIV]

Great vid man

[@visciousitachi1681]

Finally some good KZbin recommendations 💯🔥 Earned yourself a sub mate 👍

[@Gamer_Groza]

I'm honestly quite curious to see what Connor would look like if he was trained by Shay, he'd probably be twice as deadly as in AC3

[@SchazmenRassir]

Loved it, very nice AU!

[@jplayzz8542]

This should be a dlc for ac rogue kinda like connors dlc the tyranny of Washington we’re it’s all a dream in the end

[@tyicocirand6883]

I dont think that the brotherhood would have risked going to London n to kill Chales Lee because with his fleeing back to london the templers no longer had a hold in the colonies and instead would have stayed back at the homestand planning for a inevitable return with more forces, the deffense would be lead by Conner.

[@Andrew53670]

Well I sure wish we get another game where we play the Templars.... And I'm sure Shay did stay with the Brotherhood in a Parallel universe