[What-If] Star Platinum VS King Crimson (Jotaro VS Diavolo).

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Music: JJBA All-Star Battle: Diavolo's Theme (Extended).
JJBA All-Star Battle: DIO's Theme (Extended).

[@Hyourinjutsu]

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[@SpammytheHedgehog]

Hyourinjutsu is Diavolo like Steely Dan?

[@SpammytheHedgehog]

If only Diavolo fought Dio...

[@darkmario720]

Idk who but PLEASE do anyone from the Touhou series those girls need some love >_

[@charredlegacy]

could you please make jotaro vs hit and ssbk goku vs za warudo ( i love the way you make jojo what-ifs )

[@dexias7621]

Jotaro vs Kars

[@pugingy8852]

Polnareff: Jotaro! We need your help to defeat a powerful stand user. Jotaro: Nope. Polnareff: Why? Jotaro: Plot armor gone.

[@blackkat2018]

That had me dead

[@arecib5751]

Bro how is king crimson physical stronger than star platinum

[@EH_Anthony]

That explains part 6 Jotaro

[@ronelysbello1931]

@@arecib5751 King crimson has less range than star platinum that makes him slightly stronger

[@arecib5751]

@@ronelysbello1931 idk I still don't buy it

[@223antemerediem2]

Jotaro can easily just say "so its the same type of stand" and acquire king crimsons time skip

[@heatsflamesman5353]

Ikr. I guess jotaro forgot his plot armour

[@mrantipatia1872]

AHAHAHAHAHAH

[@Oh.Nah_]

a jerry boi man he should’ve used that line against Pucci and maybe he wouldn’t of...you know...

[@heavygem3154]

@@mrantipatia1872 DIO's laugh

[@tolgakasap2606]

@@Oh.Nah_ he could beat his ass if he didnt try to save jolyne and part 6 jotaro is weakened af

[@dustdevil8518]

Diavolo won because he skipped Jotaro saying “So it’s the same type of stand as Star Platinum”

[@Power-xl8vh]

U

[@AgentB69]

Star crimson

[@miketheknight522]

Good point

[@shooter-300]

@@Sun-uv7yi bro, really

[@user-ni3tb2oi3s]

Star platinum king crimson

[@tomsama4856]

diavolo: *moves in time stop* araki: yoo what the fu-

[@OmenKito]

even araki didnt forget that diavolo has no timestop movement

[@abdullahshazad8412]

@ige because he could move in it because they were similar types of stands

[@breadeater8737]

@ige Jotaro stopped time just when Dio's time stop ended

[@abdullahshazad8412]

@@breadeater8737 Well no but yes

[@k.f.kobold7910]

See, that's what I was thinking. Besides, considering his foresight let him see the future, would it let hin see things in timestop? My guess would be he wouls just see his last few seconds going from fine to wrecked in an instant. Ugh, time stands are bullshit.

[@bathboy7115]

Jotaro: hits king crimson a billion times. Diavolo: Stays conscious/alive. This is illegal.

[@somerandomguy3768]

King Crimson's durability: Wait, thats illegal.

[@user-fi3bq6zq2x]

King Crimson durability : E How this works?

[@jeram6462]

King Crimson erase the time when he got hit

[@kindaGrim]

iMabuti you can see SP break his bones and diavolo just poses it off

[@d4clt427]

@@kindaGrim it shows us what happened, but KC erased the time, it would be stupid if everything was skipped for us

[@phone9375]

The reason jotaro lost because his theme doesn't plays

[@poopersscoopers2116]

Phone what theme is playing

[@brightfuturerblx259]

Jotaro theme

[@brightfuturerblx259]

Here.. kzbin.info/www/bejne/hHfNdmh3abp0gKs

[@thebadger622]

Nah, He lost because it wasn't "High Noon"

[@StardustCrusader18]

It wasn't the same type of stand, it seems. Yare yare daze..

[@enzop6861]

that moment when Star Platinum breaks both of KC's legs, his ribcage, and rushes him and Diavolo just stands up nonchalantly

[@bandabanana4939]

Yeah this was bullshit

[@ianthecoolthief6226]

Maybe Diavolo erased that action.

[@pogmaster6009]

@@bandabanana4939 So Dio breaking all of Jotaro's bones and him moving like he just doesn't care isn't bullshit?

[@shafizzimiji478]

@@pogmaster6009 well the injured is not that critical compare to diavolo's broken bone

[@bandabanana4939]

@@pogmaster6009 E in durability vs A in durability, Plus it's a fucking leg, DIO broke Jotaro's Arms and other bones but not the leg. Plus the adrenaline, But this shit different, Even if adrenaline was rushing through Diavolo's body he shouldn't be able to move with those shattered legs

[@oldgames4377]

Guys Diavolo taught me even if I break a ton of bones and get hit with punches strong enough to break diamonds I’ll be fine Imma go skydiving without a parachute

[@aklaaaultramarine3904]

GAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHA

[@themanwithnoname5870]

To be fair divaolo took punchs from g.e.r A requiem stand

[@requiem522]

@@themanwithnoname5870 and died, so imagine if he took punches from a Stand massively FTL

[@tutiofrijol8466]

@@requiem522 Well yeah he died. But he took a ton of it and also was able to move it over to try and counterattack, also Durability is in reality Stamina (Or that is because of the misstraduction in English), so maybe his durability is better that we tough of it. Also in another point, this is Jotaro from part 4, an weakened version of Star Platinum

[@amnesia1537]

@@tutiofrijol8466 star Platinum isn't weakened in that animation at all. He could break bones, a feat that only jp3 showed with ease( jp4 could break kira's bones in the end of part 4 ).

[@felixwen1843]

Video: Jotaro dies from one hole in his stomach Me: Looking back to Jotaro vs Sheer Heart Attack

[@josefumi5661]

Me: Remember that the abdominal region have most of vital organs, and that Jotaro have a vertical hole of 30cm on it

[@jeremiassutter5321]

Me: remember the amount of blood that Jotaro loose after sheer heart attack and some of the wound are in points where are vital organs also me:*laughs in araki forgots*

[@josefumi5661]

@@jeremiassutter5321 Remembering that in the scene it doesn't really showed how deep the wounds are

[@jeremiassutter5321]

@@josefumi5661 Kira said he can almost see the through his wounds...

[@josefumi5661]

@@jeremiassutter5321 Gimme a Scan of it

[@Roma-pv5qq]

Jotaro: You can't erase time if it is stopped. *+1000 IQ Jotaro picture*

[@Reykoo_2]

I mean its true tho. You cant erase something when you yourself is stopped. Lel. So Diavolo skipping stopped time is dumb af.

[@unlimitedlegitist2374]

@@Reykoo_2 he erased time just before timestop by using epitaph

[@Reykoo_2]

UnlimitedLegitist Epitaph doesnt erase time tho, it just foresees 10 seconds into the future. Also if in that 10 seconds Jotaro uses Za Warudo, he’d only forsee in realtime which is Jotaro teleporting and wrecking Diavolo because of time stop.

[@unlimitedlegitist2374]

@@Reykoo_2 i know, he used epitaph to foresee the timestop

[@unlimitedlegitist2374]

@@Reykoo_2 he'd see jotaro or star platinum pose to timestop, like they always do

[@bloulinkling3206]

Fun fact :Jotaro learned king crimson ability in less than a minute while people take hours to understand it !

[@krimson4626]

That's because it's easier to understand any ability when you experience it yourself

[@luiousy7329]

Polnareff is not as smart but even he figured out in the first move. There is no other way for something this broken to happen without messing time

[@momon5359]

2 seconds later: Star Platinum, Act 2!

[@awadsab_]

Star Platinum Over Heaven

[@palxpez3561]

Star Platinum Over Heaven Requiem Act 4: Love Train Za Warudo Bites The Dust

[@AgentB69]

@@palxpez3561 hamon and spin

[@thechadmadlad23]

@@AgentB69 this aint yba

[@vpbruguera2284]

@@thechadmadlad23 your absolutely dumb hamon is in jojo bizarre's adventure and same for spin (but maybe its in the manga)

[@onehappyboi6811]

> king crimson's endurance is E > takes multiple hits from star platinum that has A in power > still alive *ARAKI FORGOT*

[@onehappyboi6811]

@ShadowBladeX yeh ik

[@mms7328]

@@onehappyboi6811 no diavolo erased all the times he got hit though the animator left it in to make the animation more exciting

[@MumblingSolipsist]

@Cursed Image.yoshithebastard.mp4 No, you are wrong because the results of Jotaro's actions in time stop only happen after time stop ends, therefore Diavolo will always know the results of Jotaro's actions before before Jotaro does them in stopped time. And the time spent in time stop is only experienced by Jotaro which means the time stop doesn't eat into Diavolo's 10 second precog. Also Jotaro will only activate time stop if he thinks he needs to, which means if he gets hit by a stealth attack he wasn't aware of he will use time stop too late. A good example would be the when Jotaro time stops after realizing he got hit in the head by a road roller, sure he avoided most of the damage but it's still not all of it. Where as diavolo on the other hand always sees and nullifies danger coming because he's always using his precog+"erase time". Only the fastest or sneakiest of dangers can instantly kill Jotaro, but for Diavolo only the sneakiest dangers can kill him. If we assume that diavolo can die in "erased time" then the only way to kill diavolo is through damage that lasts more than 10 seconds, which would be nearly impossible to do, the only viable option would be poisoning or drugging him without him noticing. If diavolo can't die in "erased time" then only suicide can kill him. 1. both don't know each other or their stands = Diavolo win 10/10 2. both know each others stands and have prep = Diavolo win 9/10

[@henriqueoliveira5123]

@Cursed Image.yoshithebastard.mp4 Nah, timestop is a single instant in time, and all the actions taken by Jotaro in stopped time happen at the same instant, if you will. So no, time stop does not transcend erased time.

[@spooky3991]

@@henriqueoliveira5123 That's why time erase doesn't work on time stop, if jotaro stops time and hits diavolo the hit is already done and since it's in stopped time diavolo can't skip that hit even when time stop ends and normal time resumes, it's because he can't skip the ''cause'' or the ''beginning'' or the ''start'' of the action, therefor the hit is landed already.

[@daddymyers3322]

That wasn’t jotaro because he didn’t say “yare yare daze” a single time

[@animeking830]

Damn true, he never said, which never gave him power

[@Aaron-ub1qw]

speedwagon foundation cloned him

[@Kxre_]

I didn’t know Surface could copy stands too

[@brandonhansen2231]

Exactly. This is completely inaccurate

[@ithinkitwaseshan]

@@animeking830 very VERY true

[@randomweeb9240]

I completely disagree with this logic, if time is stopped: all action ceases. If he skipped time *before* the time stop it's a different story. But time stop would totally stop diavolo.

[@mrgio7060]

Ye and diovalo cant see future cuz jotaro stand is faster than bullets and it wont attempt to do that

[@calamity69907]

Even if diavolo skips time first it isn't guranteed victory what if so stops time after 5 second mark of skipped time then diavolo is fucked as he won't be able to move in his own skipped time

[@Ponera-Sama]

To be fair this logic did work for Made in Heaven

[@thanos3869]

@@Ponera-Sama diavolo doesn’t know anything about jotaro or how long he can stop time

[@thanos3869]

@@Ponera-Sama it worked for pucci because he studied jotaro powers and stuff

[@rayyandaniael7066]

Jotaro: *legit breaks every single bone in kc* Kc: *stands up normally*

[@alteshaus3830]

and kc skips time stop what doesent make sense

[@lostfollower7397]

Jotaro: *Takes a punch barrage from The World without SP shielding him* Jotaro: *stands up normally*

[@lostfollower7397]

@@DarkWuz_ What are you even talking about, the “durability” of a stand doesn’t affect the “dueability” of a user lol. And since you wanna talk about stand stats… Also KC: *Takes a hit from a stand with A in power but doesn’t shatter like glass* Also KC: has an E in “precision” Also KC: *hits almost every attack he does* Stand stats in a nutshell: TW: has A in speed and B in precision Also TW: Beats SP with an A in speed and precision SP and TW: both have A in durability SP: Gives TW a donut in one hit TW: Only breaks Jotaro’s bones after a kick and punch barrage GWE: has a C in power Also GWE: throws cars in the air like they are toys Yep, keep believing those stand stats lmao, they definetly make a lot of sense LOL.

[@othila9902]

Jotaro fanboys when the exact same thing happened in part 3: "Imma pretend that never happened"

[@lekacious3529]

You can see him struggle a little bit

[@Sotally_Hollow]

Now jotaro knows how kakyoin feels

[@simpleyetcomplex]

BOOOOO

[@johnsida4499]

That sounds gay

[@Sotally_Hollow]

But it makes sense

[@zacz1801]

That was cruel

[@quasimodokiwi1500]

;(

[@Gatling93]

*Kakyoin:* So, how did you die? *Jotaro:* ... ... *Kakyoin:* Mm... I see.

[@jalter1361]

*Jotaro:* having my face cuted in half

[@SenorFluffy]

Sucks doesn't it?

[@gigagleb9842]

Señor Fluffy You could say it’s a real... *_Punch in the gut._*

[@Funstun-yk7oo]

@@gigagleb9842 same as houdini

[@BussySlayercranker]

No you can't

[@cunning7313]

when jotaro forgets his plot armor:

[@MateusKADITA]

King Crimson's durability: E This channel: Ok... I'll ignore that have a good day.

[@Therat921]

Stand stars are garbage, everyone knows this

[@pogmaster6009]

"Durability" stat is a mistranslation, check your facts

[@choconectar2284]

Stand stats are not even credible lol

[@zaconmacon565]

Didn't KC survive a barrage from GER? I'm sure he can handle a ora barrage

[@gamercentral2417]

@@zaconmacon565 actually no he didn’t. The infinite death started when the old guy stabbed him. It would be logical that the old guy didn’t cause it because the death has to be by ger I think to be infinite death. So my guess is that ger killed diavlo

[@ronjonson7026]

It's almost necropost but Jotaro: *Hits Diavolo with barrage* Diavolo: *Stays alive with his stand Durability E* Jotaro: "Wait, that's illegal"

[@SolProxy]

Durability is a mistranslation.

[@ronjonson7026]

@@SolProxy Then what is this? Endurance? Even if it's Endurance Star Platinum part4 has the same power as Star Platinum in part 3. And that means he can break DIAMONDS, and i think diamonds a lot harder than Calcium

[@SolProxy]

@@ronjonson7026 I believe Araki wrote it as persistence and it doesn't really mean how easily a stand breaks against another stand. THE WORLD got donuted by Star Platinum in one punch with an A in persistence. Also the JoJo Wikia calls it persistence.

[@ronjonson7026]

@@SolProxy That may mean how long can you endure the damage or something like that? If it's that, that would make sense as well persistence.

[@SolProxy]

@@ronjonson7026 I believe it may mean stamina, relating to how long you can keep your ability active or say, how long you can punch without getting weaker. Attacks rushes take a lot of stamina so something like Sticky Fingers with a D in persistence would tire out quicker while Star Platinum from Part 3 wouldn't. King Crimson and SP The World have an E since their abilities can last 10 and 5 seconds respectively.

[@ShadowVTuber]

Jotaro: There's only one reason of why you won... *My theme didn't play.*

[@Symboite3099]

But your name is shadow so you are not jotaro

[@ShadowVTuber]

@@Symboite3099 lmao

[@alexjames6412]

there 2 main reason he didn't win His theme didn't play and he didn't say yare yare daze

[@manahokianga8154]

NO, NO HE DIAVOLO ONLY WON Because he didn't piss him off you fool

[@refanza4300]

*SC theme played* Jotaro: Yarou...

[@justarandomjesterpassingby3449]

Everyone gangsta until jotaro screams : "STAR PLATINUM : ACT 2"

[@TenshiYerlin]

Star Platinum Over Ocean Jotaro: Now I can stop time for 30 seconds straight now

[@mishaweaponsguy484]

Diavolo: guess I'll die XD

[@datdude5707]

Jotaro fans :

[@shogun5408]

time erase dont work that way

[@adwitatherealadwita]

Incorrect, Jotaro would NEVER think to use Star Finger after Part 3.

[@jaronjohn8178]

Yeah he wont because its a he isnt immobilized and its a close range combat

[@MyNamesNotJaral]

Yeah not even if Pucci is IN RANGE! REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

[@emanuelacampa4359]

that's the style of Hyourinjutsu, he makes characters use moves that they don't even use anymore, but some are great (moves like star finger) that add more mechanics to the fight, like in dragon ball sprite animations he animates fights that are even better that the actual show

[@galakticboss]

The logic would be the surprise element, but just that, and wasn't even a decisive thing

[@wujek7616]

Only on dolphins

[@speedogoku3696]

*Josuke arrives and heals jotaro and gives him the arrow* KC: Oh hell no.

[@Naruko_Nami]

SpeedJosuke Fondaition

[@Mystic-4252]

Then Jotaro can now warp reality and stop time indefinitely

[@frosttv7896]

@@Mystic-4252 Nah that's over heaven star platinum, the requiem would have other busted type of ability

[@thorhit]

Jiren Owarida JosukeSpeed

[@kaiingram9081]

Star Platinum The World Requiem is a long name for a stand

[@tomtommy5302]

For the Time Stop vs. Time Erasure debate: Time only appears "erased" to people other than Diavolo. What King Crimson actually does is remove Diavolo from the flow of time and fate. He uses Epitaph to see 10 seconds into the future. This future is absolute. For example if Diavolo would get stabbed in the next 10 seconds, it WILL happen, IF Diavolo doesn't activate King Crimson. If he does activate King Crimson, Diavolo is now removed from predestined fate and thus is able to escape from getting stabbed. But the stabber would still continue to stab in the direction where Diavolo was. After the ability stops, the stabber would have no memory of Diavolo suddenly disappearing. So in conclusion I believe Time Stop is superior as during Time "Erase", Diavolo can't actually do anything except prepare a counterattack. Star Platinum is faster than light, so even if Diavolo placed himself behind Jotaro, King Crimson cannot outspeed Star Platinum.

[@anindoin4330]

>Star Platinum is not faster than light. There is no stand that moves at the speed of light, excluding Hanged Man and Made in Heaven. Stands moving at the speed of light is constantly disproved throughout the entire show...

[@theboatman6284]

to be fair king crimson was able to best silver chariot which had similar speeds to star platinum, so I wouldn't be too sure who'd win this

[@zerotwoistheworsthumancrea5405]

Araki stated that star platinum is faster than light in the databooks, chariot was able to slice hanged man, meaning that he is ftl, and star platinum was able to keep up with a silver chariot improved by anubis. made in heaven has MFTL- infinite speeds, and star platinum could react to him, putting him at least as ftl+, stop saying nonsense. ​@@anindoin4330

[@kunalKumar-xg8mk]

​@@theboatman6284 bro r u gone nuts cuz diavolo doesn't even fight silver chariot at full potential (i mean when he takes his armor out) where as s.p fight him at his best and guess who won?!!

[@kunalKumar-xg8mk]

​​@@anindoin4330nope bro u r wrong S.P exceed the speed of light,, and facts are everywhere,, you may as well as google it,, jojowiki

[@etheriousnatsudragneel9612]

The only counterpoint here, is whether THE WORLD can be skipped, this video said yes, but if it can't, then everything Jotaro did in stopped time couldn't be foreseen or cut-out since his stand isn't moving in real time.

[@dexv1lz996]

Of course it can be skipped. Why couldn’t it? You can’t stop time when time doesn’t exist

[@etheriousnatsudragneel9612]

@@dexv1lz996 i mean you couldn't know for sure. Stopped time could work differently and not be able to be skipped, although i kinda agree. Still what if Jotaro activates THE WORLD before King Crimson activates his ability? Thats why its a what if

[@customshepard7954]

This would be a gunslinger duel whoever activates his stand ability first wins Jotaro would one shot diavolo the same way diavolo would one shot Jotaro

[@etheriousnatsudragneel9612]

@@customshepard7954 Exactly!

[@dexv1lz996]

@@customshepard7954 except Diavolo has epitaph, meaning that he’ll always be able to completely counter jotaro’s time stop

[@OmegaTheMyth]

Polnareff: *contacts Jotaro* also Polnareff: *doesn't tell Jotaro about how King Crimson works with blood drop trick which would lead to instant victory*

[@doshep_hegex]

*_Laughs in dead french_*

[@StardustCrusader18]

Hell even a clock would work.

[@aaronnguyen4506]

Jotaro Kujo I mean he has a watch.

[@aaronnguyen4506]

Seth Hegex dead?

[@doshep_hegex]

@@aaronnguyen4506 uh oh

[@lordfridge4849]

jotaro just had to play the music and and say "yare yare daze" and diavolo would just ınstantly die

[@maximodubs4189]

Dolphin Prince of the universe

[@jones7119]

Star Dolphinum

[@gamerente101]

You forgot the blackscreen 🤣

[@ehee4544]

To all the jotaro fans out there Yall do realise that the fight wouldve been over as soon as jotaro tried hitting diavolo right? Diavolo's epitaph can easily show him that hes dead or about to be hit (if he gets caught in time stop since epitaph cant see in time stop it will just show the aftermath of him laying dead) as soon as diavolo sees the outcome he just erases time and since nothing affects diavolo while he's erasing time he can actually see inside of jotaro's timestop and can position himself behind jotaro, throw an attack, remove his time erasure right as timestop is over and right before the attack lands, basically leaving jotaro with barely any time to react to the hit and getting donutted The only way I see jotaro winning that fight is by getting an 11+ second time stop which would be longer than time erase and Diavolo would be trapped in stopped time as soon as his 10 second time erasure was over If jotaro hit outside of timestop diavolo would erase time, walk behind jotaro, throw an attack, and remove time erasure before that attack lands leaving jotaro with no time to react just like with timestop The plan I layed out would be kinda hard for diavolo to figure out since he doesnt know how jotaro's stand works but with that op time erase and that op epitaph he can hang in there enough to figure jotaro out Also i know the ending to my timestop plan is explained very poorly so just follow it slowly and try to imagine the scenario step by step

[@wonderland9601]

The comments section is sinceriy a tumor

[@Aaa-vp6ug]

He struggled to dodge a severely weakened Silver Chariot despite using *both* of his Stand Abilities. And Star Platinum is faster than a Silver Chariot who isn’t injured and on a less predictable trajectory. He’s still going to get hit first. Not to mention Jotaro being able to survive The World’s punches as though they were just regular punches hitting the average person Last I checked, Diavolo’s stand doesn’t bop buildings to pieces. Edit: that last point’s kind of fishy.

[@Aaa-vp6ug]

@@wonderland9601yep…

[@wonderland9601]

@@Aaa-vp6ug no i mean you can tell that msot comments is from the cringe 2017-8 reddit hunmor era

[@Aaa-vp6ug]

@@wonderland9601 oh

[@kojikowatakashi7767]

Diwvolo in this, survived a broken bones. Diavolo in the Anime screams in 0ain while lying down because he was stabbed 1 time

[@EVERYTHING-km5ex]

Yeah it was strange

[@lk.das_maloka]

*after he got beaten to a pulp

[@goose9245]

naw jotaro would have gotten too pissed and learned how to reverse time

[@livingcheese2910]

Well, I have a theory that Star Platinum is a requiem stand itself. Everytime when he had no chance, he adapted himself to his enemy and did overcome him with a new different ability he never had before. He suddenly learned star finger to hit an enemy that was too far away. He suddenly could breath all the fog from Justice in. And finally, he adapted a way to fight Dio, with his own abilities. So yeah, it wouldn't be a surprise if he turns back time suddenly.

[@user-uv5ld3cx5t]

@@livingcheese2910 Star Platinum has plot power giving him time stopping abilities

[@livingcheese2910]

@@user-uv5ld3cx5t That pretty much is the same thing as my theory.

[@ericx6969]

@@livingcheese2910 nope star platinum and za world are exact copy stands ability I'm surprised why hermit purple and humanoid stand it doesn't make sense also It seems za world is less durable but faster

[@mavikartal7775]

Or maybe Star Platinum and King Crimson are similiar Stands so he skips the parts where Boss hurt him

[@davethebaron]

Diavolo: Moves In Stopped Time Me: Wait A Minute

[@jib381]

Sigh, he looks 10 seconds into the future to predict when jotaro stops time, then skips time right before jotaro skips it

[@vegitobutmasteredultrainst487]

Oh my god roplayer

[@vegitobutmasteredultrainst487]

Welp I guess the head to be a roleplayer

[@Kenny-qk9nr]

Jibby! He can’t predict the time stop because it doesn’t register into reality time skip does

[@Kenny-qk9nr]

Jibby! All Jotaro has to do is stop time and one punch him king crimson doesn’t have enough durability

[@k0ana889]

I'm going to explain how Jotaro will beat Diavolo around 8/10 times in my opinion. If Jotaro and Diavolo are just facing each other without knowing each other's abilities, Jotaro will win most of the time. If Diavolo uses Epitaph and sees Jotaro just teleport and possibly see himself beaten up on the floor, Diavolo has to use King Crimson to defend himself. Time stop completely counters Time Skip and Epitaph. I'm going to explain how. If Diavolo activates his time skip, Jotaro would be affected as well, as all would. However, if Jotaro (most likely, since in most of his fights, he always uses time stop ) subconsciously activates Star Platinum : The World, Diavolo is finished. Star Platinum : The world freezes time, and therefore freezes King Crimson's time erasure as time is still moving within King Crimson's time erasure. (Just so you know, King Crimson's "Time erasure" is a metaphor of people other than Diavolo not remembering the next ten seconds once activated). So in a scenario like this, Jotaro once subconsciously activates Time Stop would be confused as he activated it without him knowing himself. Remember, while time erasure is active, Diavolo is invincible to every physical attack to him, however, since Time erasure is paused by Time stop itself, meaning Diavolo is no longer invincible therefore vulnerable. Jotaro would also not remember what happened between the space and time before activating time stop, however remembers what will happen in his world of time stop. Jotaro would use this opportunity to pummel Diavolo into the ground (remember, Jotaro doesn't possess the will to kill, so Diavolo would just be crippled by an ora ora rush). Once Jotaro's time stop ends, Diavolo in his world of time erasure, would possibly see Jotaro teleport and suddenly crippled on the floor. He would most likely question what happened and with the lack of stamina to continue his time erasure due to the beating of Star Platinum, would end his time erasure and be lying on the floor unconscious. Jotaro, once again would be confused as time erasure ends, he would most likely taken steps forward or backward. Both Diavolo and Jotaro would be confused.

[@lemonplayz4032]

I kinda disagree. I feel like Time Stop would be affected by Time Erasure. But in the end I don’t think it would matter. The way I see it, Diavolo skips time and during that he sees Jotaro teleport but he’s suddenly obliterated, but he maneuvers away so he gets into the perfect place to attack. Time then continues and Star Platinum suddenly appears, blocking the attack of Diavolo with its crazy reaction speed. Then Jotaro stops time and beats up Diavolo where he cannot react.

[@k0ana889]

@@lemonplayz4032 There is really no way how Diavolo's Time Erasure would work against Time stop, but the flow of time still remains in Diavolo's world so that's why I came to the conclusion that it is just normal time, but everyone apart from Diavolo are actually conscious within the space and the people affected are carrying out their fated actions. Just so you know, Diavolo can only see the result of what happens, he won't see Jotaro teleport but he will see himself in a bloody mess. But the rest just depends if Jotaro reacts to it in time.

[@Leig5H0T]

@@lemonplayz4032 well no, because when time obliteration ends, jotaro will be styck mid action due to briefly being unconscious of what he's doing. Not only that, but diavolo tends to begin his punch DURING te, ending erasure right as it's about to connect, resulting in no time to react. KC has an A in speed too

[@Leig5H0T]

@@k0ana889 also timestop isn't outside of time, it's one single instance of time dragged out for a longer period. its not actions outside of time it is a bunch of actions performed instantly. while watching jotaro's movements in time erasure, he'd see him teleport and probably notice a a sudden force passing through him and probably find that weird, but it wouldnt hurt him, and then he'd continue as normal.

[@TheMan-ct8gh]

Im gonna disprove you and show he wins 0/10 times. So lets say jotaro stops time, but before he stops time Diavolo uses epitaph! He can see that suddenly he takes damage even though NO TIME PASSED! So he erases time, which erases his action of stopping time, and the effect of him being damaged! Jotaro still has the feeling he stopped time so he will be tired, and feel like he just attacked and stopped time, but it didnt matter! Diavolo can also spam his ability unlike DIO and Jotaro! Hope this helps man!

[@chaneychane9339]

The animation is so goooood!! I've found this masterpiece long time ago but now I'm feeling like comeback to it. This is so satisfying!!

[@fro_gqy]

1. You cant do shit in Timestop, so Diavolo had NO WAY to skip inside it. 2. Star Platinum is as fast as light, and strong enough to withstand a roadroller on him. 3. Diavolo was able to JUMP and withstand punches with a broken rib and broken legs. 4. King Crimson's durability isnt good enough to withstand Star Platinum's punches, it simply isnt. Besides from those 4 illogical things, good animation. Edit: My comment is now a battle, feel free to argue here. Edit2: It appears people think that King Crimson can skip frames ahead of present time, it cannot, its ability just erases current time for 10 seconds, it doesnt erase the future. Edit 3, 5 MONTHS later: This is my most liked comment, with an amazing 1.3K likes on it, im astonished at the fact that this little opinion of mine is near the front of a comment section, thanks for taking the time for trying to explain stuff and commenting here.

[@zyoh4311]

Actually he can, he uses the epitaph to forecast 10 seconds in the future. Remember when he had Metallica pinned and narancia used Aerosmith to fire at them but diavalo foresaw that so he erased the time that happened. No one can touch him in erased time and on top of that jotaros time stop is about 3-5 seconds long which is very small compared to the 10 second future forecast from epitaph and 10 second time erasure. Durability doesn't really mean anything, if king crimson punched star platniums hand king crimson's hand would break which is why king crimson takes precise movements. Remember sticky fingers had a d in durability so does golden experience however when golden experience punched sticky fingers arm why didn't it shatter? Or why didnt golden experience hand shatter when he had his hand pierced by the arrow or black Sabbath holding his leg. Durability doesn't always mean that he's instantly gonna die king crimson's power is a he can handle a beating. Not only that remember that when DIO punched Jotaro abunch of times and had his collarbone, armbone, and the middle of jotaros right ribcage shattered. But he was still able to stand and use star platniums to not get crushed by road roller.

[@jacchi5801]

ZyoH Ur fucking wrong about the time thing. When time is stopped, there exist no time. Why tf would u use time skip in time stop WHEN there is no time.

[@jacchi5801]

thats the logical thing

[@asiansimp]

JazzTheKoala You’re right, what is there to stop when it is already erased?

[@phillbill7852]

You are absolutely correct he can't do anything IN time stop but he skipped the time before and during timestop also before making any claims that he cannot skip timestop time I'll go ahead and stop you there and say timestop has a set amount of time correct? Thus it happens in a time window which king crimson just shut completely before it ever happened. HOWEVER I don't think jotaro would die this easy and would definatly find some method of fighting back more efficiently such as using his bleeding arm to tell when he already erased time to immediately timestop assuming that time erase has some sort of cooldown or something

[@torpedogang]

While I disagree with the results, I love the animation

[@Artistofprocedure]

It makes sense if he knows Jotaro he uses epitah and sees hes about to use time stop and erases time before he can do it

[@thottietoohottie1932]

@@Artistofprocedure wouldn't he be unable to see what happens in stopped time? Since y'know it'll just show what happens after the results of what happened after stopped time instead of the full action

[@roca6690]

Artist of Procedure yes but jotaro already immobilized diavolo so would that make diavolo unable to use his king crimson

[@Toastman30K]

well, aside from time stop, star platinum had superior durability, speed and precision. so did Silver chariot and chariot got wrecked

[@povertyeditor4898]

@@Artistofprocedure You can not see *stopped* time since you know everything around you and yourself has been stopped except the person who used timestop. You can not erase stopped time either since it's stopped. All he'd see is just jotaro teleporting in his epitaph

[@LastsBobaTea]

There’s so many ways TS and TE can interact. Like its possible TE could just skip the whole TS, or it’s possible that TE cant skip TS because its stopped time and Epitaph can only see the effects of TS as if Jotaro just teleports.

[@yessir7068]

Yea

[@Leig5H0T]

if time is obliterated, king crimson will see jotaro teleport suddenly, but the force jotaro tries to apply within stopped time will just phase through diavolo. timestop is not outside of time. it is a prolonged instance of a single time frame. if time is not present, there is nothing to freeze or interract with. it is a bunch of actions done in an instant, rather than actions done in a ×■●♤•●□▪︎■♡~ abstract ○■○♤~■

[@tolstyy624]

as shown in golden wind, you still carry through the plotted actions in time skip, even if you're oblivious to doing it. if time stop and time skip activate at the same time (which is pretty likely, bc star platinum is just about as fast as silver chariot, and diavolo could react before silver chariot lands a hit) then jotaro would still carry out whatever he was planning to do to diavolo, and he wouldnt be able to stop it from happening. diavolo would still get his 10 seconds, but he would find it hard to do anything at all after jotaro pulverised every bone in his body.

[@thecrimsonraven9446]

You think people care about that, they'll just power scale characters based on how much they like them anyway.

[@imstupid880]

Absolutely amazing panel artwork, and tastefully done.

[@kqurn5454]

He can’t skip time when he himself is stopped and isn’t King Crimson’s durability E and Star Platinum’s power A?

[@saleh999x9]

Yes

[@capitanfalcon64]

It isn't durability its persistence or how many times can he use the ability, durability was a mistranslation. King Crimsons power is also A so they are pretty much equal.

[@saleh999x9]

@@capitanfalcon64 i don't think they are equal the world has A in power but star platinum was stranger than him

[@capitanfalcon64]

Saleh999 X Pretty sure he wasn’t considering when their stands were clashing they were pretty much even in strength.

[@kos4793]

@@saleh999x9 still E in durability, and no, SP is stronger in bare hands than kc

[@kanzakins]

Can confirm I beat him, he just cut the fight. Edit: my name was Star Platinum when I made this comment so go crazy

[@blitzwave9330]

That would make sense

[@Icanseeyouhappybirthday]

lol

[@QuandaleDingle_69]

You can win

[@kenhdautientoitaora7676]

I think about it and i think that SP cant win solo with KC

[@emelgocmez8865]

Hey star platinum you user death ;(

[@synaticx1351]

Jotaro : Ok let me just immbolize him. Also Jotaro : *Breaks diavolo leg bones and shatters his rib cage*

[@ryan-bu8hl]

can someone explain this to me: i know that diavolo saw jotaro stopping time but how does he skip it when he can't even see what happened? like, he skipped the time stop that already started, he wouldnt be able to if it already started because he cant see jotaro stopping time, not to mention jotaro broke diavolo's leg, arm, and rib cage, yet he could still move?

[@mynamajoj6152]

He probably saw himself being beaten in the future with Epitaph, so he erased everything that happened during the Time Stop. Also, JoJo characters break their limbs and bones a ton yet they still manage to fight. I don’t know how to explain that one.

[@speedwagon9023]

@@acer7217 yea that kinda makes this feel likes some plot armor bs

[@kakarotgoku4585]

if jotaro stopped time during epitah diavolo wouldn't be able to predict it, because all he would see is jotaro either standing still, or teleporting

[@minecraftvvg4250]

@@kakarotgoku4585 you know king crimson has 10 seconds Time erasure, it's possible when king crimson activates that time stop becomes useless since it only last for 5 seconds. By the time jotaro does time stop it'll be done due to KC Time erasure.

[@kakarotgoku4585]

@@minecraftvvg4250 that's not how it would work. if time is stopped you can't do anything about it. the flow of time itself is stopped and plus the odds of Diavolo doing TE when jotaro does TS is HIGHLY unlikely. even if he looks in the future with epitaph he would see 1 of 2 things 1. jotaro teleporting around 2. jotaro not moving at all. if your not somebody who can stop time, there's nothing you can do unless your Giorno.

[@reapus1792]

You can't skip time that's frozen since the frozen time doesn't actually exist within time. Big brain IQ for this one.

[@XxAJxX-qp1qp]

facts

[@officialgaming9203]

@@shadowhy6710 you can't skip time if time doesn't flow. If Diavolo tried 'skipping' time before the time stop, then Diavolo would freeze in his last position during time skip. The reason this would happen is the time stop would stop Diavolos time skip, even if he was only 3 seconds in.

[@havokcomplex1425]

@@officialgaming9203 The stopped time will only work to "extend" KC's 10 second limit. The actions within that the stopped time would not effect Diavolo because the time erase ability would work within the single moment where Jotaro has stopped time. To be fair Diavolo shouldn't be able to move but the actions within that moment would not effect him, like how getting shot by Aerosmith didn't effect him during his fight with Risotto.

[@officialgaming9203]

@@havokcomplex1425 But Aerosmith can't stop time, while Star Platinum can. So if King Crimson were to skip time Jotaro would either teleport for Diavolo, or he would just stop Diavolos time skip. I don't think the time stop would increase King Crimsons time skip

[@havokcomplex1425]

@@officialgaming9203 Jotaro would definitely teleport, my point is that KC ability would continue during the stopped time and the seconds after time resumed. I used "extends" because for Jotaro the time skip would be the 10 second limit for KC plus the time that was stopped. For example let's say that Jotaro wanted to attack Diavolo. Diavolo saw that he is going to be a bleeding pulp with Jotaro walking away from him. So he uses KC to erase time. Running through JoJo's attack let's say he takes 3 seconds to get in range then stops time for 3 seconds to ora Diavolo then resumes time and walks away for 7 seconds. For JoJo the time skip would have been for 13 seconds but Diavolo would experience a 10 second time skip. Diavolo includes JoJo's time stop within the erased time, any attacks that occur in erased time do not effect Diavolo (as seen how Aerosmith's bullets passed through him). My point is that a time stop compresses all actions into a single instance of time relative to the normal timeline, Diavolo will erase that instance of time, what happened before, and what happens after.

[@locvo2050]

If this was in the anime/manga i bet jotaro would have said "we have the same type of stand" and had jotaro get all the abilities king crimson had

[@watchpug5225]

FR tho😂

[@Karma-jj2wr]

Star platinum's ability: copy whatever he thinks is strong

[@illuno--bf8dx1bw5j]

Lol what would his stand be called? star platinum the world king crimson. He'd be dead by the time he says the name of his stand.

[@yareyaredaze6059]

Ouu. Actually. N O That's not what would happen. He only has the same exact type of Stand as DIO. No one else. He would simply stop time and steely dan Diavlo

[@yareyaredaze6059]

@@spoopyghost2683 I like where that's going. Except you spelled Crimson wrong

[@sooraj_vijay]

Part 4 jotaro is a lot more careful than part 3 so when he realised the blood drip technique he could have waited for time to skip then stop time immediately so its an easy donut for a jotaro with an intent to kill. He wouldn't just irrationally stop time like that

[@ProfBrunoClemente]

That is amazing! Great work!

[@SurpremeCalamitas]

Jotaro: I have The World(time stop) Diavolo: I have a video editor :v

[@stopit3869]

basically youtuber vs the viewer

[@penetrador]

papulonche

[@ilovecats8192]

The ending: is an ending Me: this is illegal.

[@v0lt244]

I Love Cats, EXACTLY im no jotaro fanboy but like it seems so weird that he lost

[@studiosx8561]

@Nathaniel My and? Sp still claps

[@moderncrusader1150]

If Diavolo fought Jotaro then Diavolo could just use Epitaph to see into the future and if he sees that he gets damaged in the prediction then he would just erase the time where he was supposed to receive damage. Also Diavolo can spam full 10 second time erases unlike Jotaro who couldn't come close. Also Diavolo has great speed feats like when King Crimson managed to dodge Silver Chariot's sword slash and defeated Polnareff

[@tolstyy624]

diavolo can't erase events, he can just erase a moment in time. the events still occur, but he can easily dodge out of the way of any threats. within time skip, people still carry out the actions they planned to take, but are oblivious to anything happening. also, star platinum can match silver chariot's speed, and diavolo only *reacted* quickly enough, he wasnt necessarily quicker than him.

[@Xenomnipotent]

I agree that Diavolo wins, but I don’t think it would go on as a fight, rather as just an instant kill. Epitaph will always foresee Diavolo being injured 10 seconds before, allowing King Crimson to always be the quicker draw and skip time where Jotaro attacks him. And what about stopped time? It wouldn’t really matter how long Jotaro can stop time, since it will always be less than even a nanosecond of ‘real’ time, therefore King Crimson will just skip it entirely, and perceive it as Jotaro teleporting from one spot to another. In skipped time, Diavolo would just reposition himself towards Jotaro and deliver a fatal blow as soon as his ability ends (or, if he somehow perceived Jotaro being killed with Epitaph, he’d simply allow fate to do its thing). A lot of people say that Jotaro would stop time faster than Diavolo can attack right out of time skip, but it’s been shown multiple times that it leaves people disoriented and confused, and Diavolo delivers the killing blow before they can readjust. Remember, even Whitesnake was able to attack Jotaro first, and Jotaro SAW Whitesnake coming in stopped time. TL;DR: King Crimson hard-counters time stop, Diavolo kills Jotaro before he even realizes why he’s suddenly attacking the air at a random location.

[@ZorroCeleste1]

To be fair, King Crimson only delivered two blows.

[@Fau499]

Two fatal blows is all it takes

[@Fau499]

Also I love how not one jotaro fanboy tried to "debunk" this

[@ZorroCeleste1]

@@Fau499 - I do believe Diavolo wins, but I don't like how he wins. He wouldn't be able to act within Time Stop; but ten seconds of Epitaph are enough to beat Jotaro's two seconds.

[@Fau499]

@@ZorroCeleste1 I'm actually starting to become more sure of the fact that the 10 seconds he erases can be before the "present" time unless I'm wrong, but diavolo wins horrendously hard

[@MetiNotTheBadGuy]

This was really enjoyable! A very fun and simple way to get across KC ability

[@hitcat1157]

Meti! It’s nice to see you here:D!!!!

[@waynebehrens64]

Hey your here!

[@jshereforareason6830]

But do you think that Diavlo would win? Would this actually happen if they fought? It most likely true, I just would like an explanation...

[@boxtank5288]

@@jshereforareason6830 smart as jotaro is, he would not be able to figure out the ability in time for it to matter.

[@onlythefinestmemez8934]

@Box Tank! Polnareff didn’t have too much trouble figuring that out, so why would Jotaro?

[@pyrauxe3507]

dio got his skull literally excavated from one head punch, he was a 100 year old vampire, diavolo got hit directly in the skull from a punch that sent him flying. gg. also sf to the heart is gg gg diavolo got plot armor

[@jermainemcfadden255]

-logic has left the chat-

[@amirgarcia547]

Pyrauxe That’s how mafia works.

[@dia1452]

I think the hits were fan service tbh (because if it wasnt that means the stats are a lie)

[@iversonrobb4052]

Thank you no logic in this video

[@stefanrosu248]

Jotaro: Dies in a bullshit way Dio: First time?

[@chai_blet2]

Jotaro: so, its the same type of stand as star platinum. Star platinum: "erases time"

[@jonathantom2423]

Diavolo: So its the same type of stand as king crimson

[@KimoFest]

I have this question: How do you erase time that is stopped? If it is stopped, there is no time running in the reality, so there is no time to be erased.

[@moodyblues8029]

KimoFest u r right

[@UncJah]

Underated comment

[@thugshaker3092]

Both replies are incorrect. It's not that "there's no time to be erased", but that there's no time. It'd get erased in a moment, and Diavolo would be able to erase 10 more seconds.

[@UncJah]

I dont think thats how king crimson works tho

[@thugshaker3092]

@@UncJah It does.

[@sugoha_2548]

jotaro: "a kid is playing with a frog... LETSU KILLU DA HOOO BEEEEETCH"

[@noperpotato6439]

Koichi would be a supporting character if he was there

[@Zonate]

if kc skips time before jotaro stops it, jotaro would be a "sleeping slave of destiny" and he would react when the time stop already passed cause kc skipped 10 seconds, time stop occurs in instantly in 1 second

[@Joe-lj3wb]

This was awesome I really wish more JoJo fights were like this to be honest please make more JoJo fights

[@MikeDaddy]

Wouldn’t Polnereff have warned Jotaro about his ability?

[@WeedMaxxer]

No cuz Polnareff in Part 5 is a crippled 36 years old man lmao.

[@user-pi4ly6gr5f]

@@WeedMaxxer he legit contacted JOTARO before battling with king crimson also part 5 is not sooo much years next to 4

[@user-pi4ly6gr5f]

@@WeedMaxxer since koichi is the same height in part 4 and 5

[@megaguy-pp9kc]

@@user-pi4ly6gr5f 2 years, actually. DiU is in 1999, Golden Wind is in 2001.

[@ApokR]

@@megaguy-pp9kc no shit he said not so much years

[@Christian-cp7no]

"that stands raw power is stronger than star platinum" Meaning a lumpy sphagetti is stronger than a body builder

[@resortisland8977]

Jotaro: so it's the same type of stand as Star Platinum. *_part 6 Star Platinum appears_*

[@thefull9746]

Sadly that's true King Crimson is one of the strongest stand in Jojo. He can cut you in half with his bare hand.

[@EpicLegoSniper1]

@@thefull9746 Araki stated Star Platinum is the strongest physical stand in all of JoJo, King Crimson is powerful but couldn't hold a candle to Star Platinums strength

[@zenkairy-san4794]

@@thefull9746 I'm gonna hold you right there. YOU'RE TELLING ME THAT KC IS FASTER THAN SP? SP IS FTL, IDIOT! BRUHH IMMATURE JOJO FAN.

[@crotch4821]

@@EpicLegoSniper1 I would like to think that what Araki meant by SP is the strongest physical stand in JoJo is that he is balanced in raw strength and durability,whilst KC is Really strong in physical but really weak in durability.KC could still beat SP but it have to be done from the back where Jotaro wouldn't see it coming,as seen in the video.

[@blackskull1069]

Yooo that's pretty cool dudd

[@leplatinumburger7552]

Diavolo would've lost cause how are you gonna erase time when time doesn't exist in timestop

[@naru5935]

How Do You Skipped Time That Didn’t Happened In Real Time

[@wdg2384]

Just like any other type of time, Time Stop is basically doing actions while being stuck in certain second of Time during a situation, and then every action seems to occur at the same moment when Time Stop gets cancelled While Time Erase can actually make all of this completely useless, simply by erasing the supposed second were someone stopped time and did all of those actions.

[@ok-bw8eu]

@@wdg2384 nah my guy time erase needs the flow of time while time stop doesn't, you can't skip time stop.

[@wdg2384]

@@ok-bw8eu just erase the moment someone tries to stop time.

[@originalname5096]

WDG Yeah Jotaro telegraphs his Time Stop so Diavolo could erase it but if Jotaro succeeds Diavolo cannot do anything as all actions within Time Stop happen instantaneously in real time. Jotaro will probably get the first one , maybe two, off whilst Diavolo is figuring how SP’s ability.

[@ok-bw8eu]

@@wdg2384 but umm even if he skips time TS is not real time so it would occur. If diavolo ST it would be his downfall since he can't attack or do anything other than reposition himself

[@vuedevjs7031]

*Jotaro sees a random person talking to a frog* Jotaro: Im going to kill him!!! If he wasn't such bad person, he would be alive. The moral of the story: dont interrupt people while they are talking to their boss using a frog.

[@erfewvevreve]

I mean.. he is talking to frog, in the world of Jojo that's sus af

[@MosquitoDoidoMaluco]

JOJO BIZARRE ADVENTURES LOL

[@generic_artist9527]

Sounds like jotaro to me

[@Sako89]

Im about to end this mans's whole career

[@anthonymuller300]

CometZ15 that’s how the mafia works

[@charlespackowski6620]

I don’t think KC can move in stopped time or activate it’s ability in stopped time. I also don’t think KC is physically superior to SP. however that explanation for time erasure was very good. The animation as a whole was great. It felt like a hyper choreographed JOJO fight which is perfect

[@shafizzimiji478]

Time stop means time stop. You cant skip it unless the time start to moving. Which means its impossible for him to skip time while the time stop

[@draph91]

it does have a time limit remember, this is post part 4 Jotaro so he'd only be able to stop time for 2 seconds Diavolo is skipping the time limit not the time stop

[@qy5440]

*jotaro death* Star platinum that has level power A : "am I joke to you?"

[@huss393]

Bruh fr he punched king crimson like 20 times and it has an E in endurance

[@keyanims1978]

@@huss393 durability isnt even a stats its about persistence king crimson isnt made out of a weak glass

[@axethical]

@@keyanims1978 can you stfu, SP broke both of KC's legs and yet he can still stand up, wtf

[@keyanims1978]

@@axethicalthis animation is non Canon and king Crimson is time erase so its look like star platinum punch king Crimson but he alredy time erase first

[@keyanims1978]

@@axethical also no need to be salty i only telling

[@EnrocaLaRoca]

Diavolo died as soon as Star Platinum punched King Crimson: anything after that happens on Diavolo's head.

[@jotarokujo6582]

Yes...just...yes

[@Slenderjuan]

Nop.

[@johnathanarteaga5817]

True

[@JoseJoestrella]

Always Remember, if Diavolo dies, is Canon

[@Grug_Crood]

@Jotaro Kujo if diavolo wins any fight that isn't him killing Bruno then it's non cannon.

[@pix3188]

This is my favourite video, and it always has been ever since it released. But was Jotaro holding back? If A+ Strength can impale A Durability then A Strength should be more than enough to completely impale E Durability right??

[@isaihglover7458]

Couldn’t agree more, mans turned it into Diavolo’s Bizarre Adventures

[@RyanBrown2K5]

This is they best way to explain how Emperor Crimson works, I believe.

[@thanhphuongnguyendang2147]

We can agree Araki didn't let Jotaro fight Diavolo because thinking about the exceptable outcome would give anyone a headache

[@bluenitethewarrior9332]

I mean it be very unlikely jotaro would go in there without knowing how his stand works. Plus overall jotaro would stop time. And in stop time no one can move and don't even know time has stopped. Jotaro would have been better prepared to fight him

[@watch6272]

@@bluenitethewarrior9332 the only people that know that time stopped are the people who have a time stop ability, so only Dio and Jotaro

[@nanuninja8061]

@@watch6272 yep

[@vondying24]

@@bluenitethewarrior9332 EXACTLY. ONLY Jotaro is able to move or someone else with the same ability. Even Diavolo will be frozen along with time. There is a reason it was Polnareff that faced Diavolo, and not Jotaro.

[@bluenitethewarrior9332]

@@watch6272 exactly my point

[@pacificsafari6924]

King crimson: E in durability Also King crimson: yall feel something? Edit: when did my comment become a flame war?

[@goddamndoor]

That is not durability, is a misstranslation, they said it a thousand times in the comments

[@davidsupreme459]

@@goddamndoor there is no difference. Star platinum would still fucking win. You cant erase stopped time

[@gameuniverse5973]

@@davidsupreme459 ummm jotaro never uses time stop in the beggining of the match but diavolo always uses time erase

[@davidsupreme459]

@@gameuniverse5973 okay and? Jotaro could survive an attack from Diavolo and Jotaro could see how much Diavolo injured Jotaro. Jotaro time stops and pummels Diavolo which would injure Diavolo by a lot which humiliates Diavolo and Diavolo struggles to pull out King Crimsin because he has a durability of E

[@gameuniverse5973]

@@davidsupreme459 Diavolo way more durable if not as much as jotaro he survived a attack from a A power stand,self donuted himself,and got his face punch off by ger

[@bwylle6325]

*"So it's the same type of stand as Star Platinum."*

[@Ranfriendss]

It really made sense when Diavolo moved in stopped time

[@LumpKing]

Dragonball to JoJo? That’s a big switch lol. Not a bad thing just saying

[@minecraftvvg4250]

i love the switch

[@Hyourinjutsu]

+LumpKing [What-If #11] GT Goku VS Golden Frieza is still underway, this channel will always focus primarily on Dragon Ball unless announced otherwise!

[@LumpKing]

Hyourinjutsu are you ever gonna do other anime besides JoJo or db?

[@minecraftvvg4250]

@@Hyourinjutsu I still like your branching on other anime what-if fights, i still love your what if fights of db in general. But i really was surprised by the jotaro vs divalo, it was really good.

[@peterhuang5968]

Hyourinjutsu I’m guessing it’s GT Goku vs Super Manga Frieza right? Cause even anime Battle of Gods SSG Goku would be overkill for GT let alone Golden Frieza.

[@DioBrando-dw4fk]

Doppio: boss there’s a strange haired kid here Josuke: what did you just say about my hair?! *and thus part 5 was over, diavolo was dead and josuke was now a mafia boss*

[@Muhaimin-ot3ns]

It's canon since Diavolo is dead

[@kenhdautientoitaora7676]

Bruh. I can say that Diavolo can beat Josuke. Josuke win agaist Kira bc he had a team. Without it. I can say Josuke cant beat anyone

[@DioBrando-dw4fk]

kenhdautientoitao ra It was a joke, but yeah that’s realistic

[@siphadam]

no josuke wouldnt stand a chance buddy, i call that basically character stand cry overcoting

[@youraveragejoe2712]

Thus he made everyone in gang wear a pampadour as a hairstyle.

[@purplehaze2358]

King Crimson’s durability is E. And Jotaro already caved Dio’s skull in with a single punch, so I’m fairly certain Jotaro would have killed Diavollo with ease.

[@wallyzrr]

Also Kiss with A in every stats that died from getting their arms off:

[@flashxml]

@@wallyzrr to be fair, ermes had her head caved in by a rock minutes ago, the shock on her body might've killed her if not anything else.

[@LordSeraph999]

Here's a little thing I noticed. Jotaro Figured that During the Time Stop, King Crimson skipped time, This is impossible due to the fact that DIO and Jotaro are the only 2 who can stop time, in existence. (Minus any Alternate Timeline or universe counterparts) If time is stopped, DIO/Jotaro are the only 2 who could tell, and act in it. If DIO were alive, anytime Jotaro stopped time, DIO would notice, and could interact with it if he so pleased. King Crimson cannot do this, he can Skip time, not Stop time, Same goes for Kira's Killer Queen: Bites the Dust, It could rewind time, but if Jotaro Stopped time, Kira could not Rewind time, no matter how much he wanted too. Skipping/Cutting time is an enormous feat, but it's still nothing compared to Stopping time. BUT, If King Crimson Skipped time, (or used Epitaph) He wouldn't see every action Jotaro makes in time stop, he would see what any other person would see, Teleportation and random object movement, Not time stopping, moving around, punching, no. He would see Jotaro teleport, and and maybe a few items dash around seemingly at random. Although Fast forwarding time is a completely different thing, and could theoretically skip Jotaro's Time stop, Skipping time cannot, especially if Time is already Stopped.

[@Aaa-vp6ug]

Diavolo could still move as he is unbound from fate’s consequences, while using KC, but that doesn’t change what he sees

[@solovoypasando]

Me: King crimson, a time-manipulating stand that can punch holes into people like if they were made out of paper. Jotaro: So it's the same type of stand as star platinum. *Star platinum proceeds to remove his headband to reveal another epitaph*

[@kenhdautientoitaora7676]

This type of cmt freak me out

[@bongodoggo5381]

too bad before he do that kc time erase and donut him

[@S0LUR1]

@@bongodoggo5381 **So it's the same type of stand as star platinum.*

[@OGAntzmo]

NANI

[@mishaweaponsguy484]

The gem is epitaph XD

[@onlythefinestmemez8934]

So, before I say anything else, I just gotta say: This animation was amazing. I actually failed No Nut November because of this. Now that that’s out of the way, I have some points to explain. 1. Diavolo usually, when using time erase, goes behind the opponent, because that’s his fighting style, and likes to end fights in one killing blow, like he (almost) did with Polnareff and Bruno, and mostly goes for the stand USER, not the stand itself due to stand durability. 2. King Crimson’s durability is an E. When Star Platinum broke King Crimson’s bones, not only should Diavolo not have been able to stand after that, but (If I’m being honest) his entire limbs should’ve just exploded from the force of his punches (note that even though Jotaro doesn’t fight to kill, he doesn’t exactly know the durability of the stand, and if Jotaro DID have a reason to kill, this wouldn’t even be a fight, lol) 3. I think I have a better interpretation of time erase and time stop amalgamating. Well, first off, KC doesn’t completely erase the action of you doing what exactly what you do, he goes through all of your actions in that time, and what he would see is Jotaro “teleporting,” and might likely assume he has the same/similar ability, which would probably throw him into a panic attack. Technically the actions he did in the time stop he cannot see, and therefore did not happen to him(yet), would most likely STILL happen to him after the effects of time erase go through, and he’d get ORA’d and probably get knocked out. 4(cont.): In another case, after Jotaro figures out KC’s ability(like he did in the animation) he, being used to being teleported behind(as it’s be done to both him and he’s done it himself), considering that SP has a somewhat mind of it’s own, instinctively protecting Jotaro from a speeding bullet, SP could(SP has never done this, so you could call this “headcanon,” but it’s a theory of some sorts.)instinctively stop time, Jotaro would realize this, and instantly ORA Diavolo, and the fight is over. 5. Diavolo is a cocky bastard. He’d probably put himself into a open position, thinking the fight is already over.(As said in number 1 and 4) 6. Jotaro would learn time erase due to asspull.

[@onlythefinestmemez8934]

Also, just an add on. I DO KNOW THAT DIAVOLO TELEPORTED BEHING JOTARO. I only added that statement, simply because that is usually his first action, in which this case, was not.

[@mercersworld1040]

The last reason is the best one, a truly golden comment, thank U

[@dustin3294]

J Gonzales *BuT sTAr PLatInuM iS ThE saME STaNd*

[@flooplesmooples]

What’s the difference between time erase and time stop in an outsiders perspective

[@mercersworld1040]

@@flooplesmooples I think I figured It out like 2 months ago, but I have a very poor memory so... Now I don't remember the details. Still, I could say the difference is in how they interact with time, because of the "what you saw and touched was your future self". So maybe those affected by KC are kind of conscius of themselves at the moment time begins to be erased. While time stop doesn't let you see anything until time unfreezes.

[@zombathinlostleghackercat5233]

What if Jotaro were to pause time outside of the time skip.

[@supergotcre2194]

This is so good

[@AnikiBillyHerrington]

If it was Araki, Jotaro would probably somehow move through “skipped” time. Star Platinum: *ZA ASSPULL!*

[@satoridevil7848]

Jotaro would've realized that he could use time skip too

[@demolictorrent2177]

Jotaro would’ve realized king crimson and star platinum is the “same” stand, and bam.

[@khomchat1]

@@demolictorrent2177 I think his ability is to copy ablities other stands(of his type) how else did he got dio's ability.

[@skinnymanatee4621]

KT S he didn’t copy there the same stands just different between too souls

[@khomchat1]

@@skinnymanatee4621 They're similar stands, not the same. He didn't even have an ability until he met Dio.

[@mandom9307]

This animation was godlike, but the biggest thing I think this video might've overlooked (aside from how KC's time erasure interacts with SP's time stop but that's pure conjecture until Araki states something about how their powers interact) is how King Crimson has very low durability yet tanks many direct hits from Star Platinum. King Crimson is extremely powerful, but it's got an E (very poor) in durability, probably because its entire power set relies on avoiding hits instead of taking them. Whereas Star Platinum's got an A in durability and destructive power, so I think any substantial hits from Star Platinum would shatter King Crimson's legs like they did to The World's. Diavolo does focus on Jotaro instead of SP though, which negates that a bit. Amazing fight either way, could've gone either way!

[@dobletmatutino9446]

After Stardust Crusaders, Star Platinum's durability dropped from A to C, you are right though, King Crimson couldn't hold on so much SP punches

[@draph91]

@@dobletmatutino9446 actually it's A to E and that was only in Stone Ocean

[@Amsel_616]

@@draph91 Fron Star Platinum: The World to Glass Cannon: The World

[@Excalibur5k]

plus star platinum was already stated to be the most powerful stand (in raw strength at least) in the beginning of part 6, which was with an even weaker jotaro. if jotaro punches with the intent to kill, it would destroy KC.

[@eujoblackblade473]

@@Excalibur5k It even punched a hole through someone's stand which had an A in Durability I'm pretty sure, one full power punch and King Crimson is dead

[@slickbroly]

I'm really jealous right now because Jotaro's Star Platinum is stronger than the other Stands and he beaten those other Stand users but basically as King Crimson time skips, it becomes invencible such as Star Platinum...how impossible is this man...how impossible that Jotaro dies in this beautiful sprite animation

[@01.duonghobach27]

Dont worry, sp is more superior than kc

[@01.duonghobach27]

There are tons of reasons to prove that, this video is so inaccurate. This is NOT how kc works.

[@kibitotoga116]

I feel like this is completely inaccurate because diovolo cant move in stop time because time is stoped he cant manipulate it meaning he cant use epitaph times skip nor time erase so this is wrong. When jotaro stops time only people who have stop time or who can nullify it can move in it as show by tusk act 4 in the 7th part of jojo and by jotaro and dio himself. So jotaro would even have to try against diovolo he can just stop time injure him to the point of death then boom diovolo is dead and he wouldnt know bc he can see anything in stop time meaning epitaph can predict future of when jotaro stops time.

[@PsmTrey-Man]

That's deep

[@bobloxfardnoob9445]

he cant see Jotaro's actions in stopped time but he would see himself flying backwards from the impact of all the hits, after seeing this he would erase time to avoid getting beaten up. although I have to agree that jotaro should have killed diavolo because of that fat E in endurance for kc.

[@ihatejose]

It should of been the end of the fight when hr broke those bones because KC has very bad durability so the video isn't that accurate

[@yaboiskinnymannn7861]

Yes a jojo animation thank u so much for my 2nd favorite jojo debated fight between time users I love u so much for this ❤️!!

[@meig2568]

ReapeR the GriM ikr

[@samlevy8385]

Pretty sure an E in durability is weaker than human, one of those punches that broke his ribs would have gone right through

[@NewNecro]

Well both Za Warudo and SP have have A in strength, yet the one making donuts is Dio and not Jotaro.

[@marcus1723]

NewNecro jotaro punched a bunch of holes into dio simultaneously at one point in their fight

[@NewNecro]

@@marcus1723 I was rather pointing out the inconsistency of strength used in the series. Jotaro broke Dio's skull at one point with a single punch yet his stand rushes (along with Josuke's) never killed anyone. It's unreasonable to assume every punch and kick are strong to go through people if killer blows are rare to begin with.

[@bruhmomento2339]

NewNecro Jotaro holds back pretty much he never has the intent of killing, but he really wanted to kill DIO so he didn’t hold back.

[@bluntaidenpearce523]

also when jotaro broke dio's skull he concentrated all his stamina in one punch, meaning he wouldn't be able to rush with each fist using the same strength he hit dio's head.

[@sometechydude2324]

I really like this interpretation of how the fight would go. First of all, I like how Star Platinum completely dominates King Crimson in a fist fight, which from what I know about Jojo power scaling, is accurate to how it would actually go. Heck, at least as far as I saw, KC only landed 2 hits in the entire fight: a chop to SP’s shoulder and punching Jotaro through the chest, both of which were right after skipped time. As for the other comments, there seems to be 2 main things people have an issue with: Diavolo being able to take so many hits from SP and him being able to resist time stop. Personally, if Doppio was able to survive getting his insides shredded by Metallica, I have no problem believing Diavolo could survive getting his bones broken by SP. As for him resisting time stop, while it’s not an interpretation I necessarily agree with, I’m fine with it considering that Made in Heaven was able to shorten time stop, so I can believe Diavolo being able to see and skip time during time stop (although him moving at the end is definitely pushing it)

[@tolstyy624]

mih was a bit of a different case, as the rate of things that occurred was sped up (as long as it didnt belong to a living being), and since time stop is something that has a time limit, that time limit passes by faster, and thus is shortened. king crimson's ability allows him to "erase" the next 10 seconds of time, and epitaph lets him see what would happen in that moment of time. in that skipped time, actors still carry out what they were planning to do, even though they're entirely oblivious to it happening at all. essentially, if star platinum stops time at the exact same moment as king crimson skips time, then jotaro would still carry out what he planned to do with his few seconds of stopped time, oblivious to anything that would happen during that moment, and then diavolo would be able to move after jotaro had finished. effectively, time stops and skips, jotaro has no idea what happened, and nor does diavolo, because he couldn't see what happened in stopped time, nor could he interrupt it.

[@sometechydude2324]

@@tolstyy624 While that interpretation is perfectly fine, I don’t think that it completely debunks Hyourinjutsu’s interpretation. MIH can accelerate time, and this also applied to time stop, making it shorter. Epitaph allows Diavolo see into the future, and if MIH’s time accelerates affects time stop, then Epitaph’s future seeing should also affect time stop by letting Diavolo see into it. And if Diavolo can see into time stop, then it’s not out of the question that he could also erase it. Like I said, your interpretation is fine on its own, but I don’t think that you have the right to imply that others’ are wrong, especially since this topic has so much room for interpretation

[@hippydragonnslayerxdlmaohi3921]

@@sometechydude2324it’s not actually time erase though. Time still passes so if the passage of time stops he can’t do shit

[@skell6810]

Even while dying Jotaro has his hand in his pocket

[@JobuMattheworiginaldonotsteal]

Good fight but I don't think King Crimson would be able to survive many hits from Star Platinum in its prime. And I'd love to see The World vs King Crimson. Definitely be a different fight since Diavolo can't outright kill DIO like he can with Jotaro.

[@nobu6833]

Dio Shits on Diavolo Real hard, Thats if Dio remembers that He is a vampire

[@itjustworks1858]

@@nobu6833 honestly I think it'd be even but in DIO's favour but yeah I'd DIO remembered he had vamp abilities its gg diovolo

[@erenanarchy9538]

king crimson is equal strong and fast as star platinum he wouldnt take those hits in first place

[@autisticpenguin658]

Will Huston that was probably DiU jotaro

[@xxdomoxxkunxx]

>punch dio >dio starts drinking diavolo

[@beyondblue2879]

1- King crimson would have been destroyed by those hits of SP (KC durability is E, SP durability is A) 2- KC can't erase time that never happened, Diavolo shouldn't be able to move while time is frozen. Only Dio and Jotaro can do it because "The world is the same type of stand as Sta Prachina" 3- Beatiful sprite btw, really enjoyable as always

[@felipeangelo6073]

He's used nerfed Jotaro of part 4.

[@123lokiyo]

Made in Heaven can move in the Frozen Time .-.

[@jalter1361]

@@123lokiyo no its just that pucci was smart as shit there

[@beyondblue2879]

@@123lokiyo no, he can't.

[@beyondblue2879]

@@felipeangelo6073 yes, Araki nerfed SP since DiU, but like i said, Za warudo is the best option against KC besides GER.

[@fyunaos]

Reminder, Time Erase Does NOT work like Time Acceleration when it comes to time stop

[@BiggestSniff]

its not just the skipping time beating stopping time, foresight is also incredibly OP. diavolo bodies dio/jotaro

[@vito6197]

Jotaro literally has the strength, speed, and durability advantage. I'm also pretty sure KC can't act during Time Stop since it was NEVER stated or implied that he could do that. Also, Time Skip doesn't affect stopped time since there isn't any time to be skipped during stopped time. "but what about epitaph?" What ABOUT epitaph? Ok, he can see Star Platinum speedblitzing him a moment later. Ok, let's say Diavolo can see Jotaro acting during time stop. What can he do about it? He can't counter attack cuz he's already dead and, again, HE. CAN'T. ACT. DURING. TIMESTOP. I'd even argue he can't see what happens during time stop. All he'd see is is Jotaro from a distance and then Star Platinum's fist through his skull a moment after without any sign of Jotaro moving at all. As if Jotaro moved in a blink of an eye. It would be like that one part in that one Ghost of Tsushima video that MalsWRLD made, where the grunt died so fast he didn't know he died. Diavolo would just be like that grunt: on the ground, asking God what happened with God saying he doesnt know.

[@alexliem8603]

Diavolo: *Wins* The Community: *Wait, That’s Illegal..* Edit: *Feel free to argue here* Edit 2: *My first time getting 100 replies (actually not replies but i'll just count it anyways)*

[@bloodmoonroninx7775]

These are jotaro fan bastards

[@bloodmoonroninx7775]

They dont want anyone to win except their fav stand user... they dont know how it works so they began to hate... such poor bastards ...

[@huss393]

BloodMoon RoninX bastard!!! I mean ye some of them are retards but what can you do against that. They’ll just team up and try to beat you.

[@its_a_ghostd827]

@@bloodmoonroninx7775 you're smart for figuring out how king crimson works, have a cookie.

[@bloodmoonroninx7775]

@@huss393 if yall love jotaro so much... show other characters compassion or else... GET DONUTED

[@xlv9968]

This is a truly *GOLDEN EXPERIENCE*

[@jalter1361]

not really you died there

[@melvin7086]

3:16 jojo fan is going to be haeck-a mead at u now