What if the Huns Never Existed?

[@matttakazawa5973]

“Without their couches, the kushans migrate...” 😂

[@Name-ed2lr]

*Cushions

[@mrtrollnator123]

💀

[@straightrippnable706]

I've just starred the video, but Matt aka Zawa 5973 could as easily be saying "without buttresses..." so - we'll see

[@concernedliberal4453]

Whatifalthist: there are serious mistranslations of the word "Hun" WWI German: yeah, tell me all about it

[@royalpotato1908]

‘Beware the hun’.

[@ap6480]

0:27 that might be the most unique way to say "xiongnu" I've ever heard. I was like "chuenu? Wtf is that" lol

[@SxVaNm345]

Then Mulan would never have to save China.

[@heavenwatcher100]

Mulan is a heroine around 400-500 AD against Rouran, another group of nomads.

[@SxVaNm345]

Chi Zhang But Rouran was still a successor state to the Huns/Xiongnu! They were like the Huns’ heir.

[@coryplum5375]

@@SxVaNm345 Mulan came from Northern Wei Dynasty which founded by Xianbei people (Another name: Siber, yes Siberia came from them) who sinicized themselves heavily.

[@azelfdaboi5265]

LETS GET DOWN TO BUSINESS

[@Deutsch_karen]

She fought jujans

[@darthbricksempire3606]

“We’ve all heard of the huns, and we’ve all heard of Atilla.” Here i am, 13 years old, the only one in my class, possibly my entire school, to know about those two...

[@darthmarr6676]

Im proud of you

[@simpleman6352]

We are proud of you

[@reymichaelsungazornosa4040]

you proud I am

[@minrominro9986]

@n v The fact that there are actually people in this world who legitimately don't even know who CAESAR was, is reason enough for a purge.

[@o-pitamask4698]

I am 15 and the same with me

[@duskshard4854]

“Without their couches” WHEEEEEZE I don’t know why thats so funny, but, objectively, it is

[@TheCreator901]

What if the western Roman Empire survived whilst the east collapsed

[@DonKrieg-382]

Then nobody would care that Constantinopel is in turkey and not in greece

[@ice_sea5527]

@@DonKrieg-382 I don't care as long as they don't turn the haga sophia into a mosque

[@DonKrieg-382]

@@ice_sea5527 Its now a museum

[@aporist]

Empires never survive.

[@joehiggins5705]

@@ice_sea5527 boy do i have news for you

[@myohmy9000]

Scenario idea: "Klein Venedig" Since King Charles V of Spain had debts to owe to the an independent city in the Holy Roman Empire (called Augsburg, and lead by the house of Welser), he granted them colonial rights to Venezuela, and it was more of the North west of it, with its capital being Santa Ana de Coro (but that's not very German so let's change it to Neues Augsburg), this colony was founded to find the mythical "El Dorado", but that's, well, *MYTHICAL*, it failed, and since the Augsburg family kept arguing with the Spanish government, after Charles's death, they took their colonial rights away. What if Klein Venedig, instead of fading into history through the Spanish taking their land back, succeeded as a German Colony?

[@insecurebee]

"What if the huns never existed?" Hungary: guess i'll die

[@tallthinkev]

Why would the German tribes need, or even want, to invade the WRE, there would be no pressure from the east this time around.

[@Roca005]

tallthinkev they were having too many children. They were always ready to expand east, west, and south. They could not expand east for obvious reasons, so they expanded west and south. The north did not have much land for agriculture. The angles, saxons, and jutes to Britannia The Franks, Visigoths, and Lombards to Galia The Vandals, Suaves, and Visigoths to Hispania. The Suaves, Lombards, and Alemani to Italia. Gaul became Frankia or France! Britannia became England! The rest of the region remained under Celtic control. Hispania became the Visigoths Kingdom of Spain, which included south-western France and Portugal. Capital in Toulouse and then Toledo. And the Italian peninsula, as the German lands, became small independent city states. It also became the Papal States. Not until the 19th century did the peninsula join to form Italy. And not until the late 19th century did the German States join. Of course, Austria was already a great empire by then. The Vikings raided Western Europe for the same reason. Too many children and not many natural resources or land for agriculture. That is the same reason why Germans and Italians, and Scandinavians moved to the Americas in the 19th and 20th century.

[@ice_sea5527]

@@Roca005 Then hit the children with rocks and bam they don't exist anymore. Or invent condoms.

[@bennetla10]

Yeah, I think he's a bit too blase about WRE still falling. The Germans all invaded at once, not just because of the Huns but because they perceived Roman weakness. Without the initial domino tipping over, I don't see why the WRE HAS to fall. This was still early on in the split, no reason an Imperial marriage coudn't reunite the halves later on down the road even.

[@lamebubblesflysohigh]

Because of better climate a.k.a more and better harvests, pressure from Slavs from north-east and they were already raiding WRE even before Huns showed up

[@Ali-bu6lo]

Because they were doing it even before the Romans, when Caesar invaded Gaul a Germanic invasion of Gaul was occurring.

[@andrewjacks2716]

I really enjoyed this video. The period of late antiquity is one I find absolutely fascinating, and your interest and knowledge of Roman history makes for some fantastic content. Two things which you didn't address which I find interesting in this period were the cooling, drying climate which reduced the agricultural productivity of Roman lands and the plague of Justinian, the combined force of which depopulated Europe severely and led to the social conditions which allowed feudal society to dominate the middle ages. I'm curious if a cooling climate alone would have been enough to disrupt the Germanic tribes such that they invaded Rome and Rome enough that they would still fall without the invasion of the Huns. I'm also curious if the lack of Byzantine wars for reconquest, or the probably reduced scale of such invasions would have allowed the plague to be as devastating as it was.

[@hamzaalmdghri8741]

Without the Huns, the Vandals would not migrate to the Iberian Peninsula, and the Roman Empire would not fall because it did not pay tribute

[@lastofrwby8395]

What if the Mali Empire colonized South America?

[@lastofrwby8395]

Metsarebuff 22 yes they did in the year 1312 they sent 2,000 ships to explore and none came back those ships also was the reason the manda dies

[@roundduck7005]

Yes please

[@eoinharrington2692]

Metsarebuff 22 the modern country Mali is not the same as the 14th century Mali , the richest star in the world and west Africa's most powerful empire

[@davidbock6276]

14th centur mali was far away of being the richest country in the world. The only thing that slightly would qualifiy them as rich, would be abundance of gold. But thats no value itself. Infact 14th century mali was a primitive country for its time.

[@eoinharrington2692]

David Bock no it was not primitive , it was a center of learning , a trade empire with a powerful military and a diverse but tolerant society

[@michaelbarcenas1551]

What if alexander did not die in India and continued to expand his empire

[@eyuin5716]

I doubt he would have gotten very far. There are 3 main circumstances we have to consider carefully. Alexander's empire was vastly overstretched at this point and to big for him to maintain if he continued expansion. Also coupled with the fact of the unforgiving terrain which separated India from Persia and the fact that the Nanda Empire military were no pushovers would have made it very hard for even Alexander to realistically invade and maintain the subcontinent.

[@eyuin5716]

Also Alexander did not die in India. He died in Babylon on his return back to Greece.

[@leaveme3559]

Michael Barcenas .....India would have a touch of Greek culture I guess than

[@SxVaNm345]

Long comment; I very much doubt that Alexander would be able to conquer beyond the Indus Valley, but let's suppose he did. India would be a mixture of Western/Greek & Eastern/Dharmic Culture. India would probably became a brilliant cosmopolitan bastion of enlightenment, With Eastern & Western values/innovations united. Also, The Greek, and Western Roman World would have incorporated many Indian achievements into their settlements, and empires. Science, and progress would develop rapidly faster, and philosophical religions would be a blend of interacting cultures. The Industrial Revolution may have begun in the Roman world, and India may be one of the first places to become industrialized. India would also be more Abrahamic then it is now. Instead of at 18 percent, it may be close to 45 - 50, and may develop a Judeo-Dharmic society within the Subcontinent. If European Colonialism happened, Maybe India would get a piece of terrority in the New World. Within this East-West unification, Celto-Germanic Kingdoms, & Southeast Asian Trading Hubs would become part of this wider Judeo-Hindu world culture.

[@primalforlorn]

He would probably conquer Carthage and Arabs which was prosperous from trading and he would appoint a heir when he’s old so his empire won’t collapse into successor states which weaken the Greek (or Macedonian) influence in Asia Minor and the Middle East through countless infighting and allowing the Romans and Persian to take advantage of its weakness

[@karenarmstrong8141]

im getting some grossdeutchland vibes

[@ice_sea5527]

Except they would break into tons of tribal and possibly feudal kingdoms; because everyone wants p o w e r.

[@biliminsrlar5752]

@@ice_sea5527 So Holy Roman Empire again?

[@peterongan9655]

@@biliminsrlar5752 yep, but Frankly there is no france.

[@blastroisehunt6546]

People get this wrong. They did not come from China but they were already preexisting people of the vast steppe.

[@cavemug4834]

Yes my favorite alternate history bro is back with another MASTERPIECE!!

[@jbussa]

actually your theory Xiongnu sort of being the early "Huns" would explain Attila's actions after he thought princess Honoria wanted to marry him. Since they would have been used to being offered wives as tribute. hmm...

[@robertlind186]

At this points of what ifs, you are basically making Fan Fiction

[@peterk.9571]

True though

[@moritamikamikara3879]

That is what alternate history is really

[@centeyek]

Scythian and Hunnic invasions were what eroded the caste system in west punjab and sindh. Main reason why these areas were majority muslim by the time of partition.

[@PSIRockOmega]

Anything ending with a stronger Byzantine Empire is a good ending.

[@MeanBeanComedy]

Chinese: ✔️ Latin: ✔️ Sogdian: ❓⁉️❓

[@mimicon5640]

Thank you!!! I've been looking all over for info on the Xiongnu

[@chaz4609]

The Xiongnu tribes were nomadic pasturists from the Xia dynasty.

[@edenli6421]

What if the Barbarians stood and fought the Huns, instead of migrating into the Roman Empire

[@alessandrogini5283]

For make be true, romans must not fight goths at adrianopolis, but respect the agreement and maje them roman citizens

[@Priyo866]

You read some really bad sources about Indian history across all your videos, I keep noticing. Gupta Empire wasn't a "collection of kings sending tribute to a weak emperor just waiting to be invaded" though. It was actually really well organized, and essentially controlled entire India in two ways - directly governed the north with a centralized bureaucracy (that existed until early 6th century AD), and nominal but closely controlled vassal kingdoms covering the entire southern area (the biggest one being Vakataka kingdom). The "tributaries" you mention existed in the form of colonies in Southeast Asia and tribal kingdoms in Himalayas and modern Myanmar. Pretty much same as what Mughal Empire did until 1590s - directly controlling only the northern heartland region and turning the rest into vassals, at least until they began directly annexing the vassal kings in 1630s. Guptas weren't militarily weak either. They actually managed to defeat the Hunas at first (repeatedly in fact, under Emperor Skandagupta). The thing is, every emperor after that was weaker than the previous one, creating warlordism and rebellions (first to go were the vassals in the south, followed by various governors). By the end of 5th century, the emperor was essenitally a hostage in his own palace. The final defeat of the Huna invaders in India (mid-6th century AD) came at the hands of Yashodharman, the Gupta governor of Avanti province (Malwa), who led the Gupta army on behalf of Emperor Vishnugupta. That man was a governor and subject in name, but in reality he had grown powerful enough to declare himself a king in his own right and eventually separated away like rest of the warlords. And even in this era, in their final years, the Gupta Empire controlled a considerable portion of eastern India (as inscribed by Yashodharman himself on Mandsaur Prashasti pillar). This era isn't badly documented either. There is loads of manuscripts from writers of the late Gupta empire era. The actual lack of sources comes in the "dark ages" of the post-Gupta era, until the rise of Pushyabhuti-Chalukya imperial diarchy when large scale writing resumes.

[@foreverjune8]

Well, he cant just straight up say "Heyo, I couldnt actually read all the sh*t about history so I'll just *assume* what happened and that will be good enough"...

[@CoolMan-ig1ol]

Calling Gupta Empire Badly documented is true only in English. There are more texts about Guptas in Sanskrit, Prakrit and Tamil than those about greece, they just have not been translated. Even in post gupta era, during the tripartite struggle era or Prithviraj era was also fully documented. Only after 1100 AD documentation was poor from native sources.

[@SearNRivers]

Nobody cares.

[@Leo-ok3uj]

Yep The last gupta king was weak and waiting to be conquered, that’s why he was the last, just like the last Roman emperor or the last Chinese emperor Also, vassal kingdoms are just tributaries with extra steps

[@Praxeria]

@@SearNRivers I care about being misinformed.

[@l.u.i.s._.8452]

Absolutely no civilization: Nomadic Central Asia tribes: your stability trials has come to an end

[@grubbybum3614]

This is one of the best alternative histories on KZbin

[@dominicross96]

4:31 best joke in the history of this channel.

[@nitex9938]

Lol

[@aqui1ifer]

10:33 Truely the best timeline.

[@angelmiau8445]

Dohany hatty yes yes

[@ArdaSReal]

Swear byzantine/roman cucks are the cringest group of people

[@Zycore1]

@@angelmiau8445 lol

[@hishamalaker491]

As a Palestinian Syrian yeah nah i am glad that the Islamic invasions happened and that the Arabs took the Levant thats my opinion your probably have a different opinion lets not fight and agree to disagree

[@azelfdaboi5265]

LETS GET DOWN TO BUSINESS TO DEFEAT THE HUN- oh wait they don't exist

[@PCGameNerd917]

I rather be called a goth than a gypsy.

[@lisvit3887]

So u would rather not have transilvanya

[@goodmustacheman9657]

hehe

[@abadyr_]

4:17 most portions of the "Great wall", among the older ones, were not built against the Xiongnu but against rival "chinese" kingdoms/clans/ethnicities

[@SpoopySkelington]

Honestly when I was younger i thought the Huns and Mongols were the same thing

[@ihavenomouthandimusttype9729]

Whatifalthist: What would borders be like? What would cultures be- Me: Skip 15 seconds

[@bornstar481]

@Jeff Person fellow mobile user don’t bother yourself with uncultured swines like him

[@caniblmolstr4503]

What if the Huns never existed? Nothing would change. The Steppes have other terrors there - The huns were the Xiongnu, There was the Yuezhi, Gokturks, Xianbei (Predecessors of the MOngols), Khitans, Jurchens, Tatars, Scythians....The list does not end. If the Hunds didn't exist, another group would take its place. A steppe nomad terrorizing the plain farmers is inevitable

[@innosam123]

LET'S GET DOWN TO BUISNESS

[@SxVaNm345]

TO DEFEAT THE HUNS!

[@innosam123]

DID THEY SEND ME DAUGHTERS

[@1943rfagan]

@@innosam123 WHEN I ASKED FOR SONS

[@ingold1470]

I guess the Germans would have had their lebensraum, so WW2 would have been completely different.

[@sonneh86]

If history is changed like that, or even slightly for that matter, it's pointless to even consider the existence of WW2. It's not something that's meant to happen

[@arnoldstallonereeves7469]

What if C.I.A. never existed.

[@Alsayid]

Americans have more English ancestry than they realize. I feel recent home DNA tests are revealing this. But it also isn't sexy to say your ancestry is English, so people will say they are whatever other "more colorful" bit might be in their bloodline. This is especially true with people calling themselves Irish (which I suspect is greatly overestimated), but is also true of people just flat out making up romantic storylines for their family, like that they are descended from brave Cherokee warriors or some such (Elizabeth Warren, anyone?). This is a side issue to the discussion about Huns, but since it was mentioned I thought I'd give my take.

[@Asdf-wf6en]

most people have only heard of the huns from that one mulang song

[@tuko4082]

Without the Xiongnu, the independent hellenic realms in Bactria and India formed by Greeks would have stuck around a bit longer, as the Kushans/Yuezhi were driven from their homes in western China and into the Ili valley by the Xiongnu. It was here that the Yuezhi then drove out eastern scythian peoples, or Saka, who would destroy the Greco Bactrian kingdom and form the Indo-Scythians and Northern and Western Satraps.

[@AwesomeSauce696969]

So wait, I've read before that the Huns wiped out the Scythians. This video says that they wiped out the Illyrians too. How on earth did they wipe out those two groups??

[@mrtrollnator123]

Sheer force

[@BloodRider1914]

Over HUNdereds of years

[@komradekevinthekommuneistd7362]

When u supposed to be fighting nomads but they start speaking greek *visible confusion*

[@avandorhu-3389]

I can't help but wonder how similar this timeline would be to the "what if rome never fell" video... I mean, the west still falls but...i really dont know.

[@eastcorkcheeses6448]

I know this is why late , but that last image of a Byzantium that controls pretty much the entire Mediterranean coast- except Spain , why would they not take southern spain ?

[@FozzyBBear]

Episode suggestion: What if the Kushans had brought their couches with them to India?

[@arunshukla5664]

Kushans were the ancient Tocharians(Extinct Indo European people). Chinese sources call them Yeuzhi and wanted to ally with them against the Xiangnu. Indian sources call the Kushans as Tusharas, and they're super important for defeating the Scythians(Shaka). The Defeat of scythians by Kushan king marks as the 1st date of the Hindu/Buddhist calender, Vikram Samvat/Bikram Sambat. Without the Kushans, India would still be under scythian domination. Also, Gautum Buddha was most likely of Scythian origin. Also, it's possible Kushans weren't the ones to defeat the Shaka, and indigenous kings defeated them, but we really don't know for sure.

[@Eškala_Iśa]

Yuezhi > the Yuezhi Tribes unite, under one King > Conquered Bactria > Mixed with Greeks colonies and natives Bactrian > Kushan > Conquered part of India > Become Buddhist

[@raklibra]

M. Yusuf To answer the OP , if Kushans did not develop there would be no Buddhism and a different East Asian culture: “They played an important role in the establishment of Buddhism in the Indian subcontinent and its spread to Central Asia and China.”

[@mljfiredragon747likethepla7]

India has been conquered many many times so most likely not much would change culturally

[@eyuin5716]

Actually the Huns were pushed back and finally defeated by the Indian King Yashodharman by the 530s CE but the damage had already been done and the Guptas fell into decline.

[@elhombredeoro955]

MLJ FireDragon747 like the plane that is true but as far as I know the Indians were the first to defeat the Huns. One thing is to be remembered is that for a big time in history India was not a political entity it was just a geographic region like middle East or Balkans.

[@nangyaldorje8624]

Huns gave the main cultural evidences to India,in architectureraly, paintings...etc...160million people have heftalites ancestry from Kashmir to Bombay.....

[@blastroisehunt6546]

Man world is pretty much mix genes

[@thorne9794]

*sees title* LETS GET DOWN THE BUSNISS TO DEFEAT THE HUNS!

[@azelfdaboi5265]

DID THEY SEND ME DAUGHTERS, WHEN I ASKED FOR SONS

[@Quetsalcoatvl]

TBH i think that if the huns never existed, another Nomadic people would fill the niche of the steppe warlord as so many others had done before and after, so this scenario is better descriped as "what if horse nomads didn't exist in the classical era steppe?"

[@matthiuskoenig3378]

Or the steppe peoples were weakened in the periods the huns operated so that none could operate

[@kingnothing5678]

A surprise to be sure, but a welcome one

[@antiliess]

white huns were part of north Xiong nu +part of yuezhi+hua tribe +other part of Xiong nu tribes like tie le-gao che

[@Ranting4Rent]

The huns are Mongolian along with xiongu. They separated and the huns were out casted over conflict. Xiongu is pronounced Hiyangu as Mongolian i can confirm so will the others

[@austintheamerican3784]

What if Germany never reunified? Say in his youth Otto Von Bismarck is killed during one of his many duels he engaged in.

[@kunalrao2134]

Kushan empire is a very important part of Indian history....it simply boosted India's wealth....guess the reason, i have trust in your intellect. Most importantly learn about Kanishka. The contributions of kushans in field of Buddhism.

[@ericsaxon5736]

0:50 White is often associated with the compass for the steppe peoples, White=East and Blue=West. The White Horde of the Mongol Empire (aka the Golden Horde by the Russians) and the Blue Horde which controlled the East. So the White Huns could have simply been the Western Huns and it would follow suit that the Eastern Huns could be called the Blue Huns. But this is simply speculation. However, the Huns like the Mongols followed the Tengri faith and shared the same homeland, along with the Turks, so it is quite possible that the White Huns were Huns.

[@abhinnakhale7520]

Hunas finally drove away from india by yashodharman of aulikar dynesty and narasimhagupta baladitya of gupta dynesty

[@ericveneto1593]

Nice couch pun!

[@lastofrwby8395]

What if the Civil War never happened until the 1880s or 1870s?

[@TheWazzoGames]

De Harding it's the civil war but deadlier and 10-20 years later

[@hylandhistories4140]

actually this brings up an interesting ramifications as the Prussian military staff had many observers in the civil war if the Franco Prussia war or even their war with Austria being a loss causing a delay in unification

[@CoffeeSuccubus]

De Harding What civil war

[@lastofrwby8395]

Coffee Succubus American

[@CoffeeSuccubus]

De Harding Oh Sorry

[@Joe-rk4mf]

Well I am Indian and I am a big fan of you, sadly I have 0 idea about Indian history, and I’m not surprised that lots of other people don’t either, there is very little written records that have been found so far

[@blupolo2389]

LET'S GET DOWN TO BUSINESS !

[@metalpolish8612]

"Without there couches"

[@yog-sothothery5720]

I like what happens to the byzantine empire in this timeline.

[@michael_crow]

You are wrong about slavs. At that time they never were so far north. Migrations into modern north-western Russia happened later than this timeline. Historical cradle of slavs are North-eastern slopes of Carpathian mountains. Modern western Ukraine, and South-eastern Poland. From this territory slavs migrated in three directions later on. In the north there were mostly finno-ugric tribes, not slavic ones. Goths indeed were on those territories, but they coexisted with slavs and maybe in some way forced them to migrate further east, but I don't think that it was so far east at that period. Slavs basically lived in the wast forest chain from Carpathians to maybe about north of Belarus.

[@evolvedape3341]

Atilla was mini-Gengis

[@aliemreazgn3634]

Xiongnu was a confederation between mongol and turkic tribes, they are not chinese. Also, Huns were Turkic people from central asia who migrated to europe and they settled to today's Hungary and developped modern Hungarians

[@mylerwilson4879]

Hungarians speak a uralic language and I can’t understand hungarian or say it sounds anything like turkish. Hungarians are decentends of uralic nomads coming to central europe

[@aliemreazgn3634]

@@mylerwilson4879 dude its been 3 years or something

[@joshuanaumowicz5115]

I have never heard Xiongnu said that way... interesting

[@forgetful9845]

wait so if the byzantines actually conquer italy that means we wouldnt get the renaissance in the form we did and in turn we wouldnt get the enlightenement. huge ramification there.

[@catalanmapping8074]

It’s crazy that we learn about the Huns as Attila vs Rome. They stretched to China and were basically Dark Ages Mongols

[@symmetry08]

Historians, sometimes, have detached view from reality that local people from Ural Mountain to Pacific ocean still remembers Huns as Hun, not Xognu. How about ask locals ?

[@christospanagopoulos5821]

What if my grandma had balls? She would be my grandpa

[@notorious9278]

The biggest amount of Hun descendants still live in North West India

[@sophiawilson8696]

There a theory that if Huns were not around the Roman Empire will NOT have fallen.

[@anilpratap6952]

What if Siberia was a sea?

[@vinfacts11]

There's a new theory that Xiong-Nu's language belonged to the Yenisien family in Siberia. There's another theory that connects the Yenisien family to NA-Dene family of the Americas, in a single family known as Dene-Yenisien. IF all of these are true, Huns are basically related to Native americans.

[@nooneimportant834]

If what you say is true, then let's just say that Europe did not take kindly to these Native American relatives' invasions of their homeland...by conquering their entire two continents

[@howlers616]

Why did you turn into a buzzfeed article at 0:18

[@jeremybird3467]

I like these videos...and to plunge into alternate timeline type things r awesome...the huns not being around...i have studied history a lot myself...i went to college for history....love it!!! I have always loved the roman and greek civilizations...along with american history given im from WV in america....anyway no huns id say 1 thing people would jump to real fast would be the fall of western rome....it was not just the huns that led to that and i believe it woulda came to an end in the west anyway...it may have helped west rome hold out a lil longer and east rome/byzantine would last a lil longer possibly....but the huns were a very deadly enemy to western rome...but FAR from their only enemy...they had fought with the german people for soooo long...by the time of the fall of western rome....rome and their excellent war machine they had built was bein fought a lot by germans who fled...and the huns r 1 reason....so no huns....be no reason to attempt peace...i say attempt cause the emperor in western rome granted the Germans under...i cant remember his name....i think he is the 1 who helped raise alaric...the germanic leader who sacked rome...it was the leader before alaric....armenius was a huge threat...he and his brother were raised up roman...and went into the military and went to war with their people...armenius' brother was ok with it but not armenius...plus when granted to cross the danube...roman military commanders REALLY took advantage of the germans....which is 1 thing that led to alaric sacking rome years later!!! So no huns...rome most likely wouldnt have had as many of the germans in there armies....so that means even more war in germania....which rome had been trying to conquer for a very long time....so im saying without the huns and the threat from Attila especially....wouldnt been an army with a lot of Germans in it...instead the huge bulk of their warriors in germania wouldnt have fled....into rome...and got screwed....then started helping the roman military against the huns...and the germans were always the 1st to be put in danger...basically im saying that with even more germans fighting against them....plus the germanic people had some great leaders in those days....alaric...armenius...the shepherd guy who waged a guerilla war basically.... they woulda stayed in germania and never been seperated from their homeland and people....so western rome would have still fell...they may have held out a lil longer...maybe...they still may fell close to when they did cause a lot of it was internal strife in the west and the east and constantinople had been the real roman power left...they moved the capitol to constantinople...they also had the vandals attacking the roman held north africa and basically that leader...cannot remember his name...took carthage and made his own lil kingdom down there...so ima say no huns...west rome may have held up....50 to 100 years longer than the normal timeline with the huns and attila....great video

[@cybertronian1836]

What if Bulgaria conquered Constantinople before the ottomans?

[@ice_sea5527]

Then they would still get smashed.

[@10hawell]

6:00- Yeah, germans occupied many more lands in the east but Slavs have always been in Belarus, northern Ukraine and a patch of eastern Poland. Germans did not move away from the mountains further than 500km because the forests were difficult to navigate. The Slavs were most west on the Bug River in eastern Poland and stretched to the Smolensk gate. This map is wrong, because the Slavs were a bay of ocean of steppes in settled europe. Slavs are tribes of Neuri, a of branch of the Sarmatians who went along the Dnieper River to the north and further north lived the Balts then known as Androphags who separated themselves from the Slavs, not the Slavs from them.

[@amadiohastruck4331]

Blah blah bla

[@joaopedroauriemo]

Then we wouldn’t have to get down to business to defeat the huns

[@nirupamakumar3917]

There was no such thing as the Indian Dark Ages. The Kannauj Triangle followed the Gupta Empire collapse. This period so continued economic prosperity with the Great patronising of the arts and science in universities such as Nalanda, Vikramashila and Odantapuri. The great cities of Kannauj and Malkhed were built during this time. The Gupta Empire actually defeated the Huns. The Empire collapsed due to flooding of thousands of cities across the Gangetic plains.

[@Player-st4hn]

...then Hungary would be called Magyarorszag and everyone would have trouble pronouncing it.

[@insecurebee]

Finally! No more hungry Hungary "joke"!

[@Ali-bu6lo]

I read somewhere that Hungary is a fusion between Huns and the Greek word "Oungroi " (from Old Bulgarian "ągrinŭ" which is in turn from Oghur Turkic "Onogur ") this was the name of tribal confederacy under Bulghars who Magyars were part of before reaching the Pannonian basin. So perhaps Hungary would be called "Oungaria or Ongaria".

[@amadiohastruck4331]

There would be no magyars there, just germanic peoples

[@FrankOceanLover3169]

Two things u got wrong about Xiongnu 1. İts pronounced Hong Nu 2. It wasnt chinese it was a confederation of mongolian and turkic tribes

[@andtiochliusvult537]

They were proto-Turks-Mongols yes, and rival of Han China

[@nangyaldorje8624]

False!Mongolians appeared in the VIII.century not before....also turk has been mentioned first on the Orkhon stele in.560 not before....

[@edenli6421]

It’s more like Sheeongnoo

[@johnyricco1220]

What if Hawaii was independent or a British territory?

[@keaolakaupe6044]

Was better that way .

[@sanniepstein4835]

Who would protect them?

[@thetigerking2613]

>Turks get Ukraine and Northern Caucasus Fuck this timeline

[@dayift2387]

Turkey And hungary Will be in central Asia

[@dreinacho]

Huns, bring ze Flammerwerfer

[@Szycha8412]

Good work:)

[@presidentidyote3127]

LET'S GET DOWN TO BUSINESS TO DEFEAT THE HUNS

[@JediAcolyte94]

What if the Trail of Tears never happened? What if the Raid of Harper's Ferry succeeded? What if Hernan Cortez failed to conquer the Aztecs?

[@natewilson6250]

I heard that funny couch joke.

[@ecosse1982]

Then Celtic would walk the Scottish Premiership year after year.

[@Meaocb]

There'd be no old firm

[@pedroleuenberger4270]

With no chinese huns the greek kingdoms in bactria wouldnt be sacked beacuse they sacked those places once the chinese defeated them

[@jeisee15]

What if Russia won the Russo-Japanese war

[@leaveme3559]

Joshua Capada ... I guess than they cease Manchuria....and make it like a puppet and a buffer between China and Russia just like Mongolia

[@user-gj1np9rp4d]

russia gets another war to brag about

[@dcactus100]

then much of Northeastern China would become permanently Russian... once them RuskySlavs come they never leave until you slay the very last of them

[@gilgameschvonuruk4982]

No, the wall was build to keep the sand from the desert out

[@lisvit3887]

5:06 If you look West on that map you can see Albania neighbouring Armenia lol 😂

[@hazzmati]

lisvit there was an actual kingdom called albania in the caucasus it's real

[@lisvit3887]

Damn, I didn't even know that. Thanks for sharing :)

[@TeymurKhan571]

That was Caucasian Albania they were Lezgins not Illyrians they weren’t even Indo-Europeans