Von Karma's only stain on his perfect record was a penalty. It must have been especially humiliating if he's the only prosecutor who's ever received one.
@potsdam2811 ай бұрын
Judge didn’t give it though his boss did
@Mathee10 ай бұрын
@@potsdam28 No it was the judge, but afterwards the chief prosecutor was like "You gotta stop forging evidence, man. You were too close to getting caught this time". Ace Attorney Investigations 2 actually gives us context for what happened during the trial, as during one of the cases, you play part of it as Gregory in the past, with Edgeworth solving the case in the present. Turns out the reason why that trial went on for a year and Von Karma got that penalty, was because the victim's body disappeared from the crime scene, and Von Karma had covered it up
@toshinoriyagi18877 ай бұрын
@@Mathee no Von Karma didnt get the penalty because of that even he wasnt told anything about the disapperance of the body and that the autopsy report was forged The Chief prosecutor has told the lead detective to not tell him about it And he got his Penalty because Edgeworth showed the court a recording of Karma and the detective forcing a confession out of the Defendant
@joaolima71315 ай бұрын
@Zalkovayou know forced confession is forged evidence too right? The forced confession alone was on Von Karma. Also, everything was covered up, if the Chief was a suspect, he would've been caught a lot earlier, Edgeworth only started to suspect him after Kay was kidnapped, you are basically expecting everything to be laid out in the first game, also it was the first game of the franchise, they weren't even expecting to be successful nor have sequels
@thebrightdiamondtp7871 Жыл бұрын
It’d be actually interesting to see prosecutors with a penalty gauge of their own ingame, with the bar/badges decreasing as you progress through the case and beat them.
@royalfool0230 Жыл бұрын
Isn't this what happens in the Investigations games?
@thebrightdiamondtp7871 Жыл бұрын
@@royalfool0230 It is but that’s only there because you’re playing as Edgeworth.
@kleinersboss5 ай бұрын
but how would that work if they are programmed it cant be 2 player or else the case idea wouldint work
@thebrightdiamondtp78715 ай бұрын
@@kleinersboss Maybe like a standard boss health bar?
@GHOSTRIDER-nu6fb3 ай бұрын
I mean unlike the defense the judge cannot give penalties to prosecutor ,only the chief prosecutor can do that, that's why prosecutors have more power in the court.
@RikouHogashi11 ай бұрын
When the Judge is BEING A ACTUAL IMPARTIAL JUDGE and not a Prosecutor Simp
@Heather_exe4 ай бұрын
We're all Prosecutor Simps, to be totally fair.
@RikouHogashi4 ай бұрын
@@Heather_exe well I wasn't I like my justice to be accurate and fair (call it boring if you want this is just my opinion)
@Heather_exe4 ай бұрын
@@RikouHogashi no prob! If you're not, you're not, if you are, then you are! :DDD
@CitrusRex Жыл бұрын
“Phoenix is the main character! He can just reload saves when he messes up!” i actually backed myself into a corner where i thought i had to present evidence to further the case, but instead i had to NOT present evidence, so i reloaded after presenting the wrong evidence like 30 times… finally i clicked through the penalty and realized i was wrong
@jeffbenton618310 ай бұрын
This was the Lana Skye case, wasn't it? (If I'm wrong and it's not in the Phoneix Wright trilogy, or if it's case 5 of Trials and Tribualtions, no spoilers, please)
@CitrusRex10 ай бұрын
@@jeffbenton6183 yes, it was! spoilers for that case ahead: It was where you had the option to present evidence to try and incriminate Damon Gant, but the actual correct answer was to just wait to present evidence. I kept reloading onto the present screen before I found out you actually have to not present anything.
@vatsalyasobjections10 ай бұрын
i think you should've used a walkthrough/guide or something at this point
@CitrusRex10 ай бұрын
@@vatsalyasobjections i think i actually did… usually i hate using walkthroughs as i want to do the game myself, but at that point i had almost exhausted all my other options
@Speakerman4207 ай бұрын
@@CitrusRexBro fr i thought i had to present smth to Gant but all you has to do was spam press on him 💀
@55alegria7 ай бұрын
The real reason why the judge decided to change the rules was probably because he got tired of the prosecution's abuse (more precisely, of Franziska's whip)
@memenumnoscopus8 ай бұрын
Penalty for whipping? Franziska won't last 5 minutes in the courtroom.
@TheLastRaven66 ай бұрын
Blackquill: *Breaks his cuffs.* Judge: DOUBLE PENALTY! BlackQuill: *Cuts bit of wrights or Apollos hair* Judge: PENALTY! Taka: *Attacks someone.* Judge: FFS! Double Penalty!
@user-el9ve6kl2n Жыл бұрын
The Judge mentions giving penalties occasionally to the prosecution, we just dont have a visual indication of it. I definitely remember him saying that to Franziska during a case
@joshuawillis6025 ай бұрын
You’re correct. He threatened to penalize her when she tried hiding important photographic evidence.
@techno15613 ай бұрын
Von Karma (elder) famously did a murder because he got a penalty
@joshuawillis6023 ай бұрын
@@techno1561 actually the Chief prosecutor gave him a penalty then not the judge.
@rylade475 Жыл бұрын
Godot: This trial will be over after my 17th cup of coffee. Judge: 17 cups of coffee?! In that case, how about 17 penalties?
@vatsalyasobjections Жыл бұрын
destroyed 💀💀
@kellenfox58711 ай бұрын
*spits out a waterfall of coffee, presumably all 17 cups*
@skiller503411 ай бұрын
Spitting out coffee everywhere is also a penalty! And throwing your coffee mug at the defense? You bet that's a penalty!
@kellenfox58711 ай бұрын
@@skiller5034 Looks like the one getting the unlimited penalty is Godot
@kieranashley11910 ай бұрын
Bringing Coffee into Court? That's a penalty!
@edwinkjellzahn Жыл бұрын
Considering how completely free of oversight prosecutors conduct themselves with (at least in the US), it probably would be good idea implement penalties
@vatsalyasobjections Жыл бұрын
Agreed
@potsdam2811 ай бұрын
I hear Japan is worse
@magnusprime9628 ай бұрын
They do exist IRL, but how often they’re enforced varies. A lot of the stuff the prosecution gets away with in this series would never fly in US courts though. An updated autopsy report that wasn’t shared with the defense would be enough to get a case thrown out.
@catabolicusagi6 ай бұрын
I like the small texts that appear sometimes. They're like talking to the voices in my head
@vatsalyasobjections6 ай бұрын
Finally I found someone who appreciates them 😭
@PuppyOrion10 ай бұрын
Considering how many times the prosecution has knowingly concealed evidence from the defense, this seems absolutely necessary
@rockincradilyyyy8489 Жыл бұрын
This could honestly make for an interesting case, here’s my idea At some point in the investigation the killer out right admits the entire case to phoenix because they know that there won’t be sufficient enough evidence, so instead to win the case phoenix has to somehow get the prosecutor to rack up enough penalties to automatically lose the case
@notherapy4u6 ай бұрын
Wouldn't that make the judge find the killer innocent if the prosecution loses?
@vatsalyasobjections6 ай бұрын
The defendant will be declared innocent, not the killer. He didn't mention that the defendant was actually the killer
@doctorwhat7792 ай бұрын
Can you imagine how our boi Wright's life would be easier? He could end cases just penalties instead of an actual defense
@k.w.pillsbury40703 ай бұрын
Goddamn. The Von Karma’s would earn so many, SO fast.
@PhoenixTrite-yc7fn Жыл бұрын
Amazingly done work.
@vatsalyasobjections Жыл бұрын
Thank You!
@kinopiko0110 ай бұрын
I find it conflicting how Mitsurugi couldn't handle having penalties when he literally has them in his spinoff game 😂
@R21217 ай бұрын
Isn't Edgeworth acting as a Defense Attorney in the Investigations games?
@vatsalyasobjections7 ай бұрын
Only as an assistant in GK2(I think?), that too after losing his badge. According to the timeline PW trilogy comes before AAI so it would be his first time gettig a penalty.
@FierySpritesКүн бұрын
Oh god, that's my old crusty custom penalty gauge in the thumbnail. I can't believe someone actually decided to use it.
@DarknessXxMasterАй бұрын
So then...throwing coffee, hitting people with a whip, false evidence and interrupting the defense during a cross examination would all be penalized. That would make the game far too easy😂
@Gogo-zv4hy Жыл бұрын
This is what would happen in a spin-off where we kept the accusation during the trials
@narudyholmesie Жыл бұрын
This is absolutely amazing work! But might I ask: How the hell did you get that GBA gallery complete with the actual gallery people and sprites for the prosecution and defense?
@CM006yt6 ай бұрын
The fact that the objection 2004 Mario sunshine version came on by ikiwi genuinely caught me off guard, real good
@kyaksachan502 Жыл бұрын
The ultimate karmatic bitchslap of the century and I live for it. Idr which case it was but it cemented my hatred the absurdities that Prosecution gets away with.
@marsplague61406 ай бұрын
Franziska would straight be put in prison for several assault
@tylerhrunek8 ай бұрын
Now it’s the prosecutions’ turn to be trolled.
@moon4236 Жыл бұрын
Reminds me of PLvsAA since you can receive a penalty as the prosecution there lol (and Phoenix is very enthusiastic about it)
@ensndkdndne-Eusjsnsns7 ай бұрын
Even better, witnesses.
@DARS_0411 ай бұрын
If any of the two parties present a witness, the other party has the right to cross examination
@reeman2.011 ай бұрын
Yeah, I always thought it was bullshit that I had to point out the lies in my own client's testimony. Couldn't I just lie and say my client's telling the truth? Lol.
@dylanzlol729310 ай бұрын
@@reeman2.0 imagine if it was phoenix wright having to shoot down the prosecution's objections about YOUR witness's testimony with evidence or dialogue choices.
@reeman2.010 ай бұрын
@@dylanzlol7293 I think that would be pretty fun. It reminds me of that one civil case in Apollo Justice(?) where Phoenix is the plaintiff suing your client for theft or something similar, I wonder what it would have been like if we played as Phoenix during that case.
@KirbyLinkACW4 ай бұрын
Considering Ace Attorney started as a parody of Japan's legal system, you might've actually solved a nationwide issue with this.
@vintprox Жыл бұрын
Justice will be served! xDDD
@k.w.pillsbury40703 ай бұрын
I love how the Updated Autopsy Report can always just be defeated with one word “Why?” Why did you ask to have it updated? What purpose did that serve? Is this just an attempt to get evidence that only serves you, or is this a complete and total fabrication?
@Scythr2s4 ай бұрын
You know it would be great battle between defense and prosecutor in showing evidence. Whenever the defense shows the correct evidence then later as the prosecutor messed it up earns a penalty as a health bar.
@badrinath53065 ай бұрын
Penalties were handed to prosecutors in game. The most important being Manfreds only penalty in his career. Miles got a penalty in case 5 of the first game for being negligent (not finding the weapon in his cars out valve and not listening to Meekins report). In the same case his next penalty was for apparentally using forged evidence in the case with Lana Skye however both never solidified as he was excused for the first one and the was found innocent of the second one. Frnasiska was abt to get penalized for whipping but didn't cause the judge didn't dare. After that the second Payne (Winston forever) was accused of forgery as indicated in the ending of dual destinies and Edgeworth penalized him and then removed him from service leading to his re-location, conversion and promotion in Khura'in. I doubt Sebastian got out scott free exactly after his fathers shenanigans. Though t was violent and law breaching Godot was never even considered for penalizing over the cups of coffee on Wright. Gavin was also not penalized nor was close to until he decided to admit regarding the shady data given by his brother however it doesn't seem to have really affected him at all as he was fine by the time of dual destinies. I am not that good at the new games but I think black was almost penalized for his bird sitting on the judges head but was able to manipulate his way out of it. Samdhadi was sort of penalized I guess but it wasn't exactly a penalty either. He was only blackmailed theough out.
@Potatooknight7 ай бұрын
Imagine ace attorney PvP 💀
@MinorLife10 Жыл бұрын
Hey, cool done music. I haven't ever heard the 8-bit Objection 2013
@aishutoon4553 Жыл бұрын
Wait I recognize that music. It’s from a video where Phoenix defends Mario in Mario sunshine
@MinorLife10 Жыл бұрын
@@aishutoon4553 That sounds cursed enough to make ma check it out
@jamesmacleod12129 ай бұрын
how about what if Ace Attorney follows the US law system? Having both DA's and prosecutors learn about discovery will have me in stitches laughing
@erhanjpg1467 Жыл бұрын
Now this is just.
@cheezemonkeyeater7 ай бұрын
"Two colas please!"
@hauntedmedic373 Жыл бұрын
I love the idea of this!
@eldonmariano7813 ай бұрын
Yay someone who uses gba sprites/size
@vatsalyasobjections3 ай бұрын
gba fan 🤝
@SuperSquad644 ай бұрын
Where did you get the judge with gavel sprites
@robertlupa8273 Жыл бұрын
Dat Objection 2004 remix tho
@josselinlouis6538 Жыл бұрын
It's from a video about phoenix defending mario in super mario sunshine. It's from the KZbin channel ikiwed.
@DaDompy Жыл бұрын
Pizza tower
@SoraFan23Ай бұрын
Yeah you know why is that the Defense gets Penalites yet the Prosectuors don't get it?
@addisonfung5009 Жыл бұрын
Unless you add a PvP case, otherwise its just impossible.
@ConstantineCatacuzenos Жыл бұрын
nice objection lol
@baki-son-of-ogreАй бұрын
Finalmente justiça Advogados são muito injustiçados em Ace Attorney
@Awelbeckk3 ай бұрын
Didn't mr von karma got a penalty once?
@WarHelmetCombine5 ай бұрын
I would love to see something like AI Generated Trials and the further you push through, the more the prosecutor's bar lowers.
@archivist_13 Жыл бұрын
Very nice
@Lou-yf1jo4 ай бұрын
wtf why are you placing comments during the video?
@KyalinaTheNotable22 күн бұрын
I believe it's supposed to be the gallery speaking
@cheezemonkeyeater7 ай бұрын
Interesting fact: every aspect of this game design is meant to be a critique against the judicial system in Japan. The reason the prosecutors don't also face penalties is because the game is meant to feel like it's biased against you because Japan's judicial system heavily biases against the defense.
@joaolima71315 ай бұрын
It's worse considering Japan still have the death penalty even when having a biased judicial system
@tailsfan11westandwithukraine Жыл бұрын
Did you really have to put in a fourth wall break there? 🤦♂️
@capital_of_texas11 ай бұрын
But...but prosecutors literally have special immunity for their performance...