What If there was Force Heal in the Prequels?

[@FantasyFolklore]

I meant to say "Prequels" at 7:21

[@scouseflay8393]

1 more sub till 1k?

[@Artist19]

In EU force heal was there in prequels. Anakin tried to used it but it involved having to have certain emotionally control I think. I remember it was brought up in comics Anakin tried to use it on someone but ended up causing them pain. There we a branch of Jedis who practiced force heal.

[@epilepticatarave]

Youre underrated and "Star Wars Theory" is overrated

[@mjae1023]

@@epilepticatarave thats true

[@05goode]

@@epilepticatarave truth

[@Katakuri]

“He could even save the ones he loved…from dying…” “Oh, you mean like Force Heal?” “Yes, exactly Anakin…wait what?”

[@drmarioprojectm1510]

"That was how I had my right arm reattached after it got cut off."

[@MonsoonMemes13]

"And how Obi-Wan saved qui-gon from death"

[@WillFredward7167]

Very well reasoned. The sequel trilogy tried very hard to destroy Star Wars as a whole. Is getting easier and easier to dismiss those 3 movies as bad fan fiction

[@Ehwhat1]

But the sequels are goo- *dies*

[@Rizzob17]

@@Ehwhat1 Kathleen Kennedy: force heals you. “…ood” Dies again.

[@megaman37456]

@@Rizzob17 Me: Executes Order 66 on Kathleen Kennedy and her story group. Also me: There is no mercy!

[@Rizzob17]

@@megaman37456 yes, I can feel your anger. Take your Jedi weapon c strike me down with all of your hatred and your path to the light side will cleanse all of Disney’s blasphemy! Luke: surprised pikachu face… uhhh, yeah, 100%. Beeew! Fandom: I heard a great disturbance in the force, as if millions of voices cried out in relief. Luke: wasn’t that the same with jar jar being offed in a fan flick? Uhh, yeah, I guess, but I’ve grown since then and can handle him. What kk did is evil, with a third k.

[@bigtomar]

We can all agree the best force ability is Animal Friendship.

[@FantasyFolklore]

Ezra is a lucky Jedi

[@andrewcabral963]

Yeah plus it could come in real handy with a Rancor, an Acklay, a Nexu, and a Reek.

[@themasteroflaughter2458]

I really love this one, Fantasy Folklore. This is very great and very exciting and very beautiful and very epic as well as very nicely well done and written.

[@FantasyFolklore]

Thank you!

[@dianesinger9729]

I liked the idea of force heal and wonder why it was not used in the prequels and all the other movies. Just think of all the lives it could have saved

[@LordVader1094]

It WAS used in that time, in Legends and before. It just can't resurrect people, and takes way more time.

[@jerry3790]

The problem is that then there is no story. Yes we like the alternate reality when things didn’t go wrong, but that’s only because we saw the reality where things did

[@ryplay08]

Anakin could have used it to save to he loved from certain death. Obi-Wan could have used it to save Qui-Gon

[@jeffwright4491]

This was my first thought right after seeing RoS! If this ability exists I dare say the Jedi would have known about it and Yoda would have taught it! Yes certain injuries would still be fatal....beheadings etc. Pretty sure Jango and Dooku would agree with that one. But pretty sure Qui-Gon could have been saved with it. Zam Wessell would have been revived after Jango tried to kill her...thus her ratting out Jango and company to the Jedi. You can go on and on. This is just one more reason the Disney sequels are terrible and have no place in Star Wars canon....for this fan here (me) they never existed...only bad fan fiction.

[@Lelebees]

The only explanation i have for it, is that it is a dark side power, that rey and kylo are somehow able to use still, bad fanfic

[@jeffwright4491]

@@Lelebees Here's why (this is just my opinion) that cannot be the case. The ability to heal is giving of oneself to achieve a benefit for another person. Dark siders think inwards...only of themselves and cannot achieve such power which is why they can never cheat death. See the RotS novelization when Qui-Gon is speaking to Yoda near the end about the ability to become one with the living force. Force heal (were it to exist) would come about in a similar manner as its a "giving" ability requiring love and compassion....something lacking in the dark side. Vader and Maul were able to keep themselves alive with the dark side using their immense hate to sustain them. But once again this is helping only themselves....that is where the dark side shines....giving great strength to a person's selfish desires and love of self....if they had light in them their injuries would have been too great and both would have died painfully...ceasing to exist....no amount of force heal could have saved them (were another light sider present to help ofc). Hope that helps....I do love a good friendly Star Wars chat.

[@richiefranklin76]

Hey I'm not saying the Disney sequels aren't bad,because they simply are. But I think your assumption that Yoda would know force heal is flawed. Yoda may seem old to us,but in fact he was born nearly a 100 yrs after Darth Bane instigated the 'rule of two'. The period from Darth Bane to the prequels,originals,and sequels is actually really small in comparison to the whole of Star wars history.It's a stated fact that even Sidious and Vader pale in comparison to some of the ancient Sith before Darth Bane. So obviously there was a lot of knowledge lost there somewhere. In return I don't think it's crazy at all to suppose that there might have been some very old techniques like force heal that the ancient Jedi used,that were rediscovered again at some point.

[@jeffwright4491]

@@richiefranklin76 Oh I have no doubt there might have been a number of abilities/powers lost and possibly rediscovered through the ages. I completely agree with you. Still I personally in my own fandom choose to ignore the sequels and consider them the bad fan fiction they are. Force heal and Rey just pulling it out of her ass to save Kylo who in turn saves her with it is just a slap in the face to all the great Jedi 9qui-Gon) who never stood a chance due to it simply "not being around". If my memory serves me correctly I swear I recall hearing George Lucas himself refer to it as "lazy storytelling" on their part coming up with this as it pretty much makes it like "why fear any of our heroes being killed? Force heal will save the day". Again just my opinion...for anyone who likes it and the sequels I say "God Bless....enjoy them. They're just not for me....episodes 1-6 and the old classic expanded universe are the only canon for this old guy lol

[@robertruse6552]

This wus very good and keep up the good work

[@caedus6525]

Shouldnt the question rather be; "What if there was good writing in the Sequels?"

[@b.a.krokodil6219]

Well, in Jedi Academy u had force heal, but that was a videogame.

[@techwizpc4484]

What if Force Drain was present in the Prequels? This is the Dark Side equivalent of Force Heal used in the Jedi Academy games.

[@pingandpong674]

It didn't even occur to me that the dark plageius speech isn't even more BS now that force heeling is a thing, god damn I hate the plot holes the sequels create lol

[@FantasyFolklore]

It just ruins all these great scenes in the prequels

[@akenilsson4762]

Can you do what if Anakin and Padme rescued Obi Wan without getting caught in episode II on Geonosis

[@arrowghost]

Force Heal is normally a standard curriculum for all Jedis since I played Jedi Academy, I can't believe it's not utilized in the prequels and of course, Jedi Fallen Order.

[@toddstockton9663]

If qui gon jinn never died count Dooku may have never gone to the darkside

[@Zack_Zander]

He was teetering on the edge of the Dark Side. Losing Qui Gon Jinn was just the final push, but it is hard to say that if he still wouldn't fallen into the Dark Side in another way.

[@crytantrevors7416]

Canonically speaking force healing existed in the non disney canon… sorry i mean the actual canon…. As to why we never saw it on film? Likely because lucas knew if they kept healing everyone that got stabbed by a saber people would find that boring… and also kill any weight the sabers had to them suspense wise whenever some one got stabbed… Hi my name is reva and i got stabbed twice and survived… Hi my name is the grand inquisitor and i got stabbed and survived… Hi my name is sabine, who has no business using a saber and easily got stabbed and survived…. Hi my name is kylo ren and i got stabbed by my own saber… and survived… Meanwhile qui gon is like wtf from the grave…. Thanks disney

[@PapaPodo]

Force Heal was already in the Star Wars universe. In the video games and novels, especially in the KOTOR era

[@Zack_Zander]

I remember seeing it when playing KoTOR but just assume it was just a game thing.

[@BasementDweller_]

Well maybe because Rey has dark side Force abilities is why she could use force heal?

[@OogaBooga-sq4xg]

the sequels could've easily fixed this too, could have been something luke learned while he was the jedi headmaster, and simply taught rey this and a newly discovered move or something

[@NikaiX2]

Nah, she is the bestest ever! Why should she need any training... (God saying that makes my stomach turn...)

[@danielharman572]

What if the fundamentals of force heal were rediscovered by plo koon and yoda in between episode 1 and 2

[@myworstenemy7966]

I'm not sure if Obi-Wan would be powerful enough to heal Qui-Gon. Obi-Wan was a master duelist, but he was relatively weak when it came to using the Force.

[@andreasamardzija1496]

If he saved Qui Gonn then he'd have a father figure so he'd never have looked to Palpatine for guidance.

[@aarohalme1020]

Anakin would probably have spared Dooku, which would have changed the story there as well.

[@obi-wankenobi6498]

This would probably be the most influencial what if

[@srstriker6420]

7:15 yeah especially when it comes from Rey when she is using force heal just feels like cheating and that there is no doubt she is a Mary Sue Also I love this work by the way 👍🏻

[@FantasyFolklore]

Yeah cheating is a great way to describe it. Thank you, I didn't go into too much depth with the clone wars because I felt like that would have been a bit much. Next what if out later this week.

[@srstriker6420]

@@FantasyFolklore yeah exactly, oh I get because I only saw the 2003 version of Clone Wars not the other longer one, would the What if be Darth Maul, Count Dooku and General Grievous were in 4,5 and 6?

[@FantasyFolklore]

I haven't watched the 2003 version, is it good? Also disregard what I said, I might upload a what if tomorrow.

[@srstriker6420]

@@FantasyFolklore well you should because General Grievous is a lot better there than what got in the movie.

[@whatsupwituholmes3978]

I think that the main problem is there were already many great stories after ROTJ, but they just threw that all away and made some random BS canon.

[@someoneidk2804]

force heal is one of the worst things they’ve added in the squeals alongside hermit Luke and Mareysu

[@grudgeisdead]

From what I always understood, by the time of the Clone Wars things that were unnatural were taboo for the Jedi Council. The Council was flawed and they avoided anything with the "Sith" name attached to it. Disney didn't even make this up, this was a common force ability in EU Legends.

[@oXRaptorzXo]

This. This is why I hate when people complain about it

[@northman4514]

What if JJ Abrams watched all the Movies and shows before attempting those awful movies ? What if he was an actual fan and payed respect to George ? What if he actually knew what Star Wars was about ? Questions we will never get answered

[@FantasyFolklore]

Sadly you're right. Imagine if a Star Wars Fan (who was a director) or George Lucas directed the sequels!

[@NikaiX2]

@@FantasyFolklore But KK can't have that, she needs to make Rey the bestest ever!

[@5Demona5]

George LITERALLY offered them stories for 7, 8 and 9, and they rejected them. Star Wars Legends are a great source of story material. But noooo "We didn't have any source materiaaaaal"

[@thejupiterjumper8472]

my headcannon is that Rey DISCOVERED force healing, and that it was a force ability unknown to the jedi before her

[@crisrustaad9849]

Sad

[@jasonskeans3327]

it did exist but it was extremely rare it was in the eu works

[@VexNovaYT]

Stakes? What's that?

[@PurpleLPikmin]

Tbh the plot of episode 3 and the ending of episode 2 wouldn't even be remotely similar to how they originally were since Qui-Gon probably would've believed what Dooku told Obi-Wan on Geonosis

[@yosef_tetro]

But if Qui-Gon lives Dooku doesn't turn to the Darkside...

[@Volcocysaurus]

Did you not save Yarael Poof?

[@jozefmasny8349]

I doubt Palpatine would have even gotten a chance to become Anakin's father figure or manipulate him with Qui gon still alive. Even if he did, Dooku would have not turned and even if he did Anakin would have spared him on Invisible Hand.

[@Arsiege]

I believe Force Heal was in a New Hope done by Konobi to Luke.

[@christianparra9584]

The idea of force heal while its an interesting concept, it wouldn't make sense in term of the prequels. In legends (OG Canon) there was in fact a way to heal and even bring those back from the dead which is what Cade Skywalker would eventually learn. However, he had to tap into the darkside in order to do it. I remember it saying the the person required lots of training before preforming the ability so they don't turn to the darkside. This would make more sense to me because its suppose to be a very powerful ability that would be discovered after the original trilogy. I could be wrong unless I'm missing some Old Republic lore that I may not know.

[@FantasyFolklore]

I have heard this before although I'm rusty on legends after the original trilogy. Would be an interesting concept to explore in future episodes.

[@LordVader1094]

People could be healed with the light side, but not brought back from the dead. It took time and a lot of effort

[@christianparra9584]

@@LordVader1094 it would make sense now in the Disney era but it does create some complications in the prequels as said in the video.

[@colmohare2609]

force heal is all over so called Legends

[@creepykoala7255]

So if Force Heal was a thing in the prequels, Anakin would eventually be granted the rank of master? That would truly be the best timeline.

[@northman4514]

Hate our fanbase . I wish it was like Tolkiens . One community United against political agendas

[@lazymansload520]

I thought there was force heal back then. They said darth plagius stopped people he cared about from dying

[@locky7347]

It's like applying logic to the Bible, yeah you can pull up some obscure reference, but it's futile in the end

[@lazymansload520]

@@locky7347 I don’t think it’s all that obscure, seeing how it’s highlighted in the opera house scene.

[@FantasyFolklore]

Yes but that was a sith technique that required the darkside hence the jedi didn't use it, the force heal that was introduced in the sequel trilogy was based around the jedi and would have changed the prequels a lot if they it.

[@locky7347]

@@lazymansload520 in a single scene, verbally, explained in under 30 seconds as a part of a larger scene with zero visuals It definitely was referenced, but it was obscure though

[@beccamaroney3782]

Overall, I definitely prefer a version with force heal.

[@essbee7948]

the only heal i think wouldn't work is anakin's arm its properly come off his body

[@lograystudios]

Yeah Disney was just so bored making Episode 9. XD

[@RobertWWD]

If it was in the Prequels it would be a waste because Force Healing the dead is deadly killing Anakin in the process.

[@sora654able1]

Yeah, the issue with Force heal is that it kind of fucks with the entirety of the Star wars timeline. Though. I guess a way to make it work is that maybe force heal isn't normally a well known ability, or the jedi were so dogmatic they neglected the ability altogether like dumbfucks

[@XxstrawmanxX]

So anakin just said suck it palps jedi has hax

[@brokenbridge6316]

Great "What if"

[@error-4269]

I hate Disney so much

[@maxmr.awesome2829]

I do to

[@ciaranpelfrey5853]

bro this new update is op can you get rid of it in the next update disney

[@andrewcabral963]

Yeah I don't think Force Heal can work on a missing limb.

[@FantasyFolklore]

I think if force heal was a thing then Yoda would be very skilled in this so I don’t think reattaching a limb (not growing one) would be that extreme

[@jarfmusic]

Once again, the sequels have broken the entire continuity for the sake of some lazy plot device.

[@NikaiX2]

But that is Disney they want to destroy George their work, because they are jealous that he can do it better.

[@itsenox4145]

As much as this is a cool story I disagree with it sidious would know about force heal and adapt massively

[@Mikebuster]

I think its best to try not to "canonise" everything disney did. it's clearly not canon to anyone with any sense, including the people that made the films. utterly awful.

[@FantasyFolklore]

I agree, not canon in my eyes.

[@crypticrs]

So much lost knowledge from the old republic

[@jlelias5080]

Ff

[@Tyler_Persad]

There was force heal in the prequels but was never used cuz we needed vader to be broken since the originals were made in 90's

[@DarthJarJar23]

More examples of the sequels being little more than poorly written fan fiction

[@k1lladragons718]

I think of ROS and while there are things I do not like I see why Rey can do the things she does. She is meant to be "all the jedi" meaning she can tap into the force and use every power that only a select few have. Cal Kestis can use psychometry, Grogu uses force healing. Rey is all the Jedi so she can do both. If people don't like that, that's one thing but that is who the movies made her.

[@FantasyFolklore]

Interesting idea and I can see why this could be correct.

[@muthinjama]

The sequel trilogy is not canon in my world.

[@FantasyFolklore]

I'm with you there

[@muthinjama]

@@FantasyFolklore great video. Interesting premise👍

[@rl872]

Going back to save Anakins mom, could have saved billions of lives

[@Zack_Zander]

Maybe more. It would prevent planets from blowing up.