What Inline Figure Skate Frames Should You Buy?

[@MsLadyFuchsia]

I got Snow Whites and am trying to transition my skills, so am eating up any and all vids I can find on inline skating -- I don't know why it's so hard to find anything inline figure skating related for North American skaters, whether it be tips on skills or just plain info vids... it's mostly geographically niche in languages I don't speak, so I'm glad I stumbled upon your channel. Super helpful - never really checked out Starlights, but those are frickin' cool! Thanks for doing these videos, please keep it up!! Any tutorials on skills would be great! It's a completely different world on inlines, I find. PS--Love, love, love how you're a GAM girl. I am too!! You don't see that very often, eh?

[@Hazook]

Thank you! And I know, it’s so hard to find people wearing GAM nowadays! For me sadly, it’s just my inlines that are GAM though.

[@AdamJukes]

Hey, i am about to start a video series, what would you like to learn?

[@natcers]

Very helpful video! I'm curious on why Starlight is not a nice word to say? (Sorry about the question, English is not my first language).

[@Hazook]

The issue isn’t with Starlight (it’s actually a really pretty name), but the abbreviation after it. I learned a couple weeks ago that’s it’s actually called Starlight Standard, and ‘standard’ got shortened to STD, which is the colloquial term for sexually transmitted diseases. Admittedly not my best joke but I felt a little uncomfortable saying it on camera😅

[@natcers]

@@Hazook hahahaha ohhhh I see! Makes sense!! 🤣

[@aw3866]

Thank you so much for this! It's been so difficult to find info on all the types of inlines and compare the costs. Great job and thanks again!

[@Hazook]

You’re welcome, I’m glad it was helpful!

[@2damecuteUK]

Most helpful video I have seen about artistis boot inline skate. I only just discovered these kind of skate existed, I only knew about the traditional hockey boot style inliners.

[@Hazook]

Thank you, I’m glad it was helpful!☺️

[@Aspen_Husky]

I have snowhites, I only brought them a few months ago. It was so hard get started in understanding the basics of the frames, this video will really help people who are new to inline figure. I would have deffinatly helped me and I still enjoyed watching it now. I didnt come from an ice skating background, I came from a regular street skating rollerblading background haha

[@Hazook]

Thank you! That actually gives me an idea, would an ‘anatomy of an inline figure skate blade’ video be helpful or interesting? I feel like it’s the logical next step to this video maybe? And that’s actually a really cool place to start, if you don’t mind my asking, what are the easiest and hardest parts of transitioning between them? I’d imagine the toe stop to be a bit of an issue, and maybe not having a break on the back wheel (if that’s something you had before)? That’s super cool though!

[@Aspen_Husky]

@@Hazook A video like that would be awsome! The most unexpected hard part was the heel to the boot. It made me ankle ache super quick, since my previous inlines where flat. Also the fact that the frame on these is actually heavier than the plastic frame on my old ones! It also took me about 5 hour sessions at the rink before I completely stopped hitting the toe stop, so that was deffinatly also a struggle. Since havnt yet done the street or a slopped place on my figure skates I havnt noticed the fact I dont have a back break on them, but I expect it to be an issue once I get a bit more adventurous haha!

[@Hazook]

Thank you for your reply, it was really interesting to read! I never thought of that, but I guess the heel isn't something most rollerblades have, and I'd imagine that'd just exacerbate tripping on the toe. Make sure you can stop without the back brake before going fast though, better safe than sorry!

[@miumiuthecat7167]

Omg im also an inline skater im scared if i bought figure inline it would be so different

[@miumiuthecat7167]

@@Aspen_Husky actually same same same , i played ice skate couple times from inline skate and it also made my ankle hurts like really hurt i barely could skate because of it

[@iissmexy1040]

This video was actually very helpful thx

[@Hazook]

Glad it was helpful!

[@Auggie025]

I went with Snow Whites as well. I agree the website is hard to navigate, and I will say that you can order directly through them. Anyone else reading this, buy it directly from them! I looked at all the authorized dealers listed on their site, and most of them were selling the boot and snow white frame outfit package for double the price practically. Essentially, I bought the package deal from them for the price some of the dealers wanted for the boot only. They were extremely helpful and great in helping me find my size. I can't wait for my Snow Whites to come in the mail

[@Hazook]

Darn, I should’ve ordered directly from them!

[@Auggie025]

@@Hazook Some sites were selling just the frames for about $300-400 when the boot and frames are just under $400 on the snow white site (inlinefigure.com). I almost missed buying directly from them because of the site layout and ordering process. To order from them, you have to send them their questionnaire template pasted in an email. There's no cart icon at the top right like most sites. I love taking my time leisurely browsing different sites and googling for coupon codes to get good deals LOL. I was about to buy inlines for slalom skating then discovered that artistic inline skating/inline figure skating is more along the lines of what I want to do. It took me 2 weeks to discover and order the snow white outfit package. It may still serve someone well to look at the other authorized dealers or other sites because I saw one site selling a package for $399 but it was a sale to get rid of the outlier sizes like 3 and 13. I looked at discountskates and the edea chorus package is $800 before shipping/taxes while it's $375 if you buy directly from snow white (+ additional $60 shipping but I wasn't charged tax, must have already been included in price), just as an example. I'm liking the videos btw! I have an inline skating background, no ice skating. I plan on maybe taking a few ice skating lessons in the future to learn the harder basic levels.

[@Hazook]

Holy crap, amazing research, I wish I’d don’t that before I bought mine! Thank you!

[@claudianowakowski]

I ordered mine directly from them too. Had the frames mounted on a pair of boots I already had.

[@felmerjunausan9023]

Gosh! This video is really for me. Thanks by the way! It really help me on this.

[@Hazook]

No problem, I’m glad it was helpful! 😊

[@icesk8er]

Good video. Yes it helped someone me. Keep the videos coming you have a great style

[@Hazook]

Thank you! I’m glad it was helpful☺️

[@yukiwang3421]

I got my snow white today, thank your introduction😭❤️

[@Hazook]

You’re welcome, and Omygosh that’s so exciting! Good luck!

[@carolinebackstad]

It helps me! I have "normal skates and do figureskating on them amd it is getting pretty hard

[@jerrypie]

Skates being out of stock everywhere is ruffling my feathers

[@hobbybugs1286]

My next pair of inlines

[@regullerr203]

yass same

[@deniz6304]

They are too expensive in my country, only the frames cost as much as 1 month salary. At this moment I am starting to wish I knew how to mend metal to DIY my own inline frames.

[@Hazook]

Oh my gosh that’s crazy! You could always try getting regular rollerblades or quad roller skates? They both feel different to the ice in their own ways but could help a little with keeping progress or learning new skills?

[@vinnymadelynelamata4833]

Same

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[@deniz6304]

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[@xiangyuncheng8250]

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[@luablau]

I wonder if we could fit a wheel instead of the toe stop of the pic frames. Looks like then it could be fit for artistic (with the stop) and slalom (with a wheel instead). Of course it wouldn't be a "proper" slalom skate, but better than with the stopper or the metal frame exposed in the front end. That would be the only reason I'd choose these fixed toe stops (besides price, maybe - but I've heard the replacement for these stoppers aren't too much affordable)

[@Walymie]

For Russia / Kazakhstan they sell another brand of frames, it's called RF Professional and it's similar to Snow White frames, they're also half the price of them ( cheaper than Pics ) . That's what I've had for 2 years and they're pretty good :) PS: I've checked, in the US it seems that it's a bit more expensive than pic frames, I guess that's cheaper if you buy from Russia because of the exchange rates

[@Hazook]

That’s awesome, I’ll have to look into those!

[@thedancingskater8407]

Awesome research on frames! I got my Pic frames back in 2016 before this was a "thing." I've NEVER replaced my toe stop and they don't make my harmony spinner wheels anymore. I'm really excited to try new equipment when it becomes available. ⛸✌🏻

[@Hazook]

TheDancingSkater that’s crazy! I’m about to move onto my third toe stop already (and I only got my skates a little over a year ago)😅

[@thedancingskater8407]

@@Hazook 😂 I know!!!

[@ertfgghhhh]

@@thedancingskater8407 what a waste. Shame on pic

[@brunalives]

I love her energy omg

[@Hazook]

Haha, thank you!

[@brunalives]

@@Hazook Heey, thks for the reply! I was hoping I could ask you something?!

[@Hazook]

Of course! You can comment it here, DM me on Insta, or email me ([e-mail])!

[@Aron77777]

what about the Jackson Atom Mirage Inline frame? Are they good? Because snowwhite etc are even more expensive 😭😭

[@socer451]

❤❤❤so the toe stop doesnt help spin??? Its better to have a rocker???

[@amandaowens1008]

It was a good video and you are so energetic and hilarious! You always make me laugh and bring a smile to my face. Keep making videos! I have Snow White as well and so far love them. Though it has been a learning curve for me.

[@Hazook]

Thank you! It's hard to find a balance between making enough jokes that it's not boring and making too many jokes that it feels too long😂

[@amandaowens1008]

Hazook I face the same problem in regular conversation lol! I say just be you and it will all be great!

[@uursullla]

How do you take off the toe stop to replace to another one ?

[@ilpuw801]

This is sooo helpful! I regret buying squads now😭

[@Hazook]

Nooo! Quads also let you do a lot of figure skate-y stuff, don’t regret buying them!

[@Sparkiiro]

I got my own Off Ice brand ones but I'm finding them too difficult to use on anything except laminate floor or skate park concrete, which really limits me. I feel a thousand times less safe on them too, I think I just feel more comfortable on ice. I'm thinking of getting something like the Snow Whites as the wheels are much bigger and look more enjoyable to use but the price tag, ahaha yikes. Also I used my old Graf Davos boot for my OI ones and I hate that boot so much ugh. Thanks for the video! :D

[@Hazook]

Skating on inlines are scarier for sure! I used to have bad boots on my inlines for a couple years, and I have to admit getting comfy boots makes it a lot more enjoyable😅 I’ve noticed that having the right support in my boots also helped a lot with my confidence in my skates (except now I’m scared to scratch them so that one kind of negated itself) and my ability to spin on them too!

[@Sparkiiro]

@@Hazook oh gosh thanks for replying! I was having a look at the other options too as Golden Horse do the CUTEST COLOUR BOOTS so I might invest that way instead! I don't wanna use my Davos boots any more 🥺 I did four levels of basic skating in them and they HURT

[@Hazook]

Golden Horse are great for colours! You could also get white/black boots and paint them with leather boot paints :)

[@paulinadelgado457]

Other brands look more safe because the wheels are bigger but I’ve been told that it’s the same feeling of dying if the surface is not completely flat and clean, a friend fell really hard at a park because she stepped on a really small rock so you can die on all of them lol but off-ice I think it’s the best brand

[@maddie-xk2uv]

@@paulinadelgado457 so if i were to use them outdoors you think i would have a lot of trouble?

[@throwmilly]

I’m wanting to know if A toe stopper is best for figure skating skills, or should I stick to having a break in back, or no break at all. I used to rollerblade in the 90s, but have always loved figure skating on ice, so tried my ice skating skills on rollerblades. Never really thought it was possible to do spins , and other skills on roller blades until I saw people using inline skates to do amazing figure skating skills on you tube recently. I’m in Texas, so there isn’t outdoor ice here to skate on and rinks are expensive to go often, I figured I’d give rollerblades a try again, but realizing I may need a decent pair of skates meant more for figure skating. I also noticed most people I see on KZbin doing spins, have toe breaks, of which I have never seen on inclines until recently. Anyways, sorry for long story. I enjoyed your video

[@Hazook]

Sorry for the late reply! Having the toe stop in front mimics a figure skate's toe pick so I'd say that's best for practising figure skate skills. The spins with heel breaks tend to be freestyle skating, which looks super cool, but doesn't resemble the mechanics of figure skating much.

[@ave_rie]

Lurker/noob here.....My god this the best ever explainer video about this! Thank you so much! I’ve been internally debating if I should just commute 4 hours every week to another city just to skate on ice or just get something for daily inline skating down the street/nearby half basketball court. For inline skating, is it just for smooth surfaces or can you also skate on the road/compact and flat grass? :)

[@Hazook]

Thank you! I've been able to skate on roads but it can make your feet feel like it's half asleep or fuzzy if the terrain is really rough. Because of inline skating, I've gotten really good at finding smooth surfaces and roads to skate, and my favourites are cement pads and tennis courts. You won't be able to skate on flat grass, dirt, or gravel because the wheels will 'sink' into the ground and not have a way of smoothly gliding. Basketball courts can be great for skating especially if the surface is maintained well. Since the commute is so long, in your situation, I would consider getting inlines or quads. Good luck!

[@michelle19991215]

Possible to chance the frames for quads for these inline frames?

[@WatchMyKimchi]

You are so adorable and this video is dope! I only just found out about these!!!! Cannot wait to buy and be able to skate on roads!!!!!

[@Hazook]

Aww thank you!🥰

[@elizabethcapps5616]

I have the MK pro with a 7" rocker and I was wondering if you knew anything about how similar it would feel if I were to switch to snow whites? Your videos have pretty much convinced me but still

[@Hazook]

I think they’ll feel familiar but not the same. As I said in my Back on Ice video, there are a lot of tiny differences that make switching between ice and inline tricky sometimes, but I also know that it’s possible to learn skills on inline and eventually transfer them onto ice and vice versa. If you have the resources and are willing, you might want to look into the new Golden Horse frames or Roll Line frames because they both offer some adjusting of the rocker which would give you better control over the feel of the skate. Personally though, I really like my Snow Whites and I think it was a valuable investment for me and my skating! (and I don’t mind not being able to adjust my rocker, I’m not sure if the freedom to adjust it is actually helpful or not😅)

[@juliehorackova]

Hi what about the jacson ultima inline frames? I saw them are they good?

[@rienn8559]

what website can you buy snowwhites from?

[@sashasquattatap3200]

I ve got snow white as well… I m a ice skater and for me is pretty hard to skate on Wheels with snow white Blades are too short and I cannot find thé point for spins I would try off ice skates

[@Thoughtspresso]

I have some Jacksons from when i started trying figure skating. Someone is selling their GH Avant-LT. Should I get it? Also, would changing the frames to inlines damage the jackson boots at all?

[@Hazook]

Omygosh I'm so sorry for the late reply!!! Changing blades on a boot once or twice isn't too bad when done by a professional, but you can't swap out the blades and frames every season since that'll wear down the holes in the sole that hold the frame/blade.

[@qqcuz255]

if you're a beginner skater is there really a need to adjust the rocker? asking about GH magic inline :)

[@Hazook]

I’d assume probably not. You can play around with it once you get more comfortable with inline skating but it shouldn’t effect your skating too much in the beginning!

[@kellyc.9962]

I’m new to ice skating/inline figure skates. If i buy just the frames, would they fit onto my current ice skates? I just need to have the blades removed?

[@Hazook]

They should in theory, but make sure you go to a skate tech to get the blades mounted so they can also fill the holes from the ice blades while you’re there. You shouldn’t swap between ice and inline blades on the same boot often but switching it once or twice and getting the holes filled each time (I think) would be okay.

[@ericafraser4478]

@@Hazook are they not going to go in the same holes?

[@Hazook]

The holes usually don’t line up, and even if they did, the screws would be loose since the previous screws would have made the second set of screws less secure in the same hole. If you go to a skate tech or figure skate shop, they should be able to fill the holes and mount the blades for you. That way, you also know that it’s centred properly and you wouldn’t risk damaging the sole of the boot with a drill.

[@katiavera2086]

Thank you for your input! I have an opportunity to get snow white frames and watching your video has convinced me to go for it. Did you get the frames and attached them to old boots?

[@Hazook]

I got them mounted onto old boots by a local skate tech because I didn’t want to risk doing it myself. That’s so exciting though, good luck!

[@katiavera2086]

We got our new frames and hubby mounted them on old boots and they’re great! Scary but nice! Spinning on one foot is hard!

[@Hazook]

Haha spinning’s pretty tough! And inlines are scary for a bit but I’m sure you’ll get used to them soon! :D

[@katiavera2086]

@@Hazook We (my daughter and I) have gone back on the ice and are preparing for testing so I’m not sure when we’ll do inline again. She’s 18 and we skate together.

[@Hazook]

Omygosh good luck!!! (Or break a leg? I never know which one with skating😅 break a lace?) the nice thing about inlines is that they’re a little easier to find surfaces to skate on year round so you have plenty of time once the winter season’s over!

[@1alicepb]

i’m trying out off ice skating after being a figure skater for 12 years, do you recommend starlight for jumps and spins ? If not which do you recommend for that?

[@Hazook]

Shoot, I’m not up to date anymore with frame types but all the ones listed plus the new Jackson and GH frames are all possible to do at the very least single and easier double jumps in as well as spins. Once you get to doubles, it becomes a little more important to prioritize researching frame build and sturdiness (same as boots). Sorry I can’t give a more straightforward answer!😖

[@heloiserobin9247]

Thank you it was very helpfull! I have some questions to ask you. But at first i’d like to tell you i am french so sorry in advance for my mistakes😁 I’ve never taken ice skating lessons as there are no ice rink near my home. But since i was young i use roller-skate (the one with four wheels and a brake at the back of only one shoe, and we can use it in the street). I’m looking for a model of roller-skate, the nearest from ice-skate. Because i love ice-skating when i can come to the rink sometimes (not now of couse) which is still being rare. But all the models are expensive, like golden horse costs 500€. And here is my question. Do you know if we can use thos models (the one with three wheels) in the street or is it only for a special wall? And if it is, which one for you? Oh and could you tell me your opinion if this is a good idea to buy it in my situation? I want to improve my level in ice-skating by this way. Thank you for your answer et for all this informations you gave in this video.😉 (and sorry again for my mistakes i could have done, i hope i did say it well so you can understand me)

[@Hazook]

No worries, it's so cool you speak multiple languages! As for places you can skate, it depends on the type of wheels you get. My skates are outdoor wheels which means if I skate on polished floors indoors (like wood flooring or a gymnasium), I can slip. But, I can skate in pretty much any parking lot without shredding or damaging my wheels. I prefer tennis courts and cement pads because they're smooth enough to do a lot of tricks and spins without worrying about slipping. As for whether inlines are a good option for you, I'm sorry but I don't really know. I think it's very valuable to learn the basics from a proper coach (things like turns, stopping, how to fall safely, etc) to make sure you start off with a strong foundation to build skills on. Inlines feel different from ice regardless of brand so it might be better in the long run if you started on ice, especially if getting skills on ice is your final goal. Good luck!!!

[@noshititskrae]

Do inline artistic skates feel very different from rollerblades? I'm unhappy with my quads but I don't like rollerblades (aesthetically)... Wondering if inline artistic skates would be a bit less scary on pavement than rollerskates... I would love to do trail skating!

[@Hazook]

Sadly, I honestly think inline skates are scarier than normal rollerblades since the toe stop makes it incredibly easy to trip. Having smaller wheels also makes it so that small pebbled on the ground or rough surfaces are enough to cause you to fall, not to mention stopping at speed is hard without a back break. If it's purely aesthetic, you could try skate covers? That way, you can get colours or patterns over your skates for super cheap rather than buying new skates entirely.

[@bambida1st]

If you mostly care about aesthetics check out impala rollerblades they have some of the prettier rollerblades I’ve seen that aren’t artistic skates

[@luablau]

For rough terrain I'd love to try Powerslide SVU skates. Their wheels are huge, they even have TYRES!!

[@rewae]

Thank you for this video! I struggled a lot with knowing which inline-skates I should buy. In Switzerland there is only one snow white with boots and one rollEXX frame with 4 wheels (its probably their own brand and unique frame). I'm gonna buy pic skates. But on which boots do they fit? Are there 'inline boots'? And are they more comfy than figure skates? I got Jackson figure skates and I want seperate boots for the inline skates, cause I wanna practice on the wheels tge whole year and I'm too lazy to switch the boots all the time. And what about wheels and stoppers? How do I know, if they fit on the pic skates? Thanks a lot. Ps: I'm male.

[@Hazook]

Pic skates have their own special set of toe stops that you have to order either directly from the PIC manufacturer or from the dealer you get your frames from. I also believe the wheels are specialty as well (I think they use Genova wheels?) but I haven’t researched enough to know for sure. The PIC manufacturer website should give you all the info you need! As for boots, while brands like EDEA and Risport have rollerskate boot lines, inline frames can be mounted on regular ice skate boots. Rollerskate boots tend to be thinner and more breathable (and don’t have fleece lining to keep your feet warm), but I think it’s more personal preference whether you choose regular figure skate boots or rollerskate boots.

[@atthecrosshealing]

Is it possible to buy regular roller blades like impala brand and put pic skates on them??

[@Hazook]

I doubt that those boots have a thick enough sole to allow mounting PIC frames on them. They also don’t seem to offer much support so I’d be worried about your ankles getting hurt😖

[@meteorcube]

Hi! Can I translate this video and put up in a Chinese website in which a lot of skaters use for skating tutorials? Not all of them can access KZbin. Many Thanks!

[@Hazook]

Of course!

[@meteorcube]

@@Hazook Thanks so much!

[@kodi9479]

Hey! I'm a big fa of figure skating, but the only rink near me is a 2 hour drive (minimum!) and usually a 3-4 hour drive back depending on traffic- So I'm really looking into inlines! Currently, the ones that I'm closest to affording are Golden Horse- (I tried looking at Snow white- way too expensive when I convert to nzd from usd!) But I'm really confused about the rocker thing- Is this something I'll have to fix, or change if I want to get really good? /Does it just not have a rocker at all? ^^'' Thank you!

[@Hazook]

GH frames have rockers built in so you don't have to worry about it! Sorry, this video is outdated so GH actually has 2 frames now, Avant LT and Presto. Avant LT allows you to customize your rocker while Presto has stationary wheels along the frame.

[@kodi9479]

@@Hazook Oh ok! So I don't need to worry about rockers since they both have them ^^? Thank you!

[@Hazook]

Yup, all inline figure skates mentioned in the video have rockers, the only differences in their rockers are in their customize-ability! No problem!

[@kodi9479]

@@Hazook Oh, all sweet! Thank you so much for respoding

[@lenkacercer6561]

does anyone know, it there is a rule about competing at the World/European competitions using 4 wheels in line skates? Who has the Off ice?

[@borntobeWILD-i8e]

Can you ice figure skating with four wheel inline skating?

[@Hazook]

While I’ve never tried it myself, for sure you can! There are brands like Off-ice and PIC that have four wheel frames, and people can still spin, jump, etc on it like three wheel frames!

[@borntobeWILD-i8e]

@@Hazook oww okie thank youuuuu ❤️

[@Hazook]

No problem, good luck!

[@Maora7110]

Im so sad i want to try but all of artistic inline skates are like at their cheapest 350€ i cant afford that for starting.. do you think even without the front pick toe i can try ? With regular inline skate ?

[@Hazook]

With normal inlines, you can do stroking and edges but figure skate spins and jumps won’t be possible. You can Google Freestyle Inline Skating though and find ways of spinning on normal inlines though!

[@Maora7110]

@@Hazook yeah i bought the seba E3 a freestyle model for a start, and when im confortable im gonna watch for other platine with a pick toe etc ill see !

[@takaranikiforov2515]

Do you reckon I could start with normal rollerblades than transfer it onto ice since I want to get into figure skating it’s just all the rinks are closed? (I have also never been ice skating before😅,Yuri on ice)

[@Hazook]

(First of all, I love your Makkachin pfp!) For sure! Especially for things like glides and basic edges, normal rollerblades should still be able to help you get used to the movement and mechanics of skating on ice. The one thing I'd look out for is weight over your toe; you don't want to make a habit of leaning too far forwards, otherwise you're a lot more likely to face-plant when you start skating on ice with a toe pick. That's not too hard of a habit to get rid of once you are on ice, but better to not have to deal with that in the first place😂

[@murtod9440]

I need to choose between snow white and roll-line any suggestions????

[@Hazook]

Roll Line offers more customization when it comes to the rocker, so if you’re prepared for the extra cost, I think roll line might be better? They’re both pretty similar except for the rocker and some minor design elements.

[@DaGoonetteify]

Can these frames fit on quad skate boots?? I want some artistic frames but they are so expensive.

[@Hazook]

They can (just make sure the frames size matches your boot)! They also fit onto traditional ice boots as well, but I would discourage switching between frames/blades regularly. If you go to a skate tech to get the plates mounted, they can fill in the previous holes for you too and make sure everything’s lines up properly! :)

[@XX-de8jp]

It did help me!

[@alliyuckie]

Will normal inline skates work with figure skating as well?

[@Hazook]

They can work with some things related to edges (for example, an eagle or spirals), but the toe stop is important to most figure skate tricks including 3-turns, jumps, and spins.

[@MizZvampire1]

Do you think its easier to spin on four wheels? I have the 3-wheels pic frame and I am thinking about that lately. Because it seems to be easy to spin on Off-ice skates and I kept asking myself if this is because of the four wheels? What do you think? xoxo

[@Hazook]

To be honest, I'm not sure. I've never tried 4-wheel frames, but from what I can tell, they have smaller wheels which means you have a little more control over your movement. If anything, I think what might be the bigger factor in helping with spins is their toe picks; both Off-ice and PIC have specialized toe picks, and that might help with spins. But again, I've never tried them so it's just a guess 😅 (It should also be noted that, from what I can tell, a lot of inline figure skate competitions see more 3-wheel frames than 4)

[@Maddyy3]

Aaaa I have been really into inline figure skates/ skating but where I live the cheapest ones are around $600 (including the boot) so for the past 1 1/2 years I have been using some cheap rollerblades 😅 And it isn’t really helping that they are raising prices because of the demand :/

[@lindatannock]

$600?! That's insane!! 😱😱

[@Maddyy3]

@@lindatannock Yea its crazy!!

[@meraalbob5107]

This was super useful but does anyone know of any cheaper/less expensive but also good quality stores I can find inline skates?

[@Hazook]

It depends on which country you’re from; you want to avoid importing them if possible to cut down on shipping and taxes, but countries where inline skating is less popular have fewer or no stores that carry inline figure frames.

[@meraalbob5107]

I’m planning on buying skates somewhere in California, If you know of any less expensive stores where I can find artistic figure skates pls let me know!

[@Hazook]

Shoot, sorry, I don't know too much about American retailers, but there are a bunch out there with inline figure skates so you shouldn't have too hard of a time tracking a frame set down! Good luck!

[@atthecrosshealing]

Did you get the boots from Snow White also? I sold my figure skates so now I need the boots and new wheels

[@Hazook]

No, I don’t think Snow White manufactures boots. I know that Golden Horse do though so that might be a place to look? I got my boots for my inlines second hand so it was cost efficient, but I need to replace them now since they don’t offer any support anymore.

[@idakishere]

Does anyone know about the Jackson frames? They are like $200

[@annabelleminkova1620]

Thank you! So useful

[@Hazook]

Thank you, I’m glad it was useful! :)

[@annabelleminkova1620]

@@Hazook Do PICs have a rocker?

[@Hazook]

Yes they do! Otherwise, even the most basic of maneuvers wouldn’t be possible. You can find a diagram of the skate here; www.picskate.com/technical.htm

[@annabelleminkova1620]

@@Hazook Woohoo! Thank you :-)

[@est-fm9ui]

I'm very interested in learning some basic stuff that I think look "pretty" like crossovers and going backwards. As someone who can't even skate on inline skates I think "normal" rollerblades should be okay to learn such basic things...would you agree?

[@Hazook]

For sure! Elements that don’t need a toe pick on ice should generally work on rollerblades!

[@love2manythings]

This was really helpful, unfortunately I live in Australia and the only one that won't cost me like 50$ shipping is off ice 💀

[@Hazook]

There's been a couple new frames that came out since this video, you could try to check Jackson's Atom Mirage inline frames? Golden Horse also came out with adjustable rockers on their new frames if that's any help! :)

[@RainbowBluety]

great video, very helpful!

[@Hazook]

Thank you, glad it was helpful! :)

[@skypeters3034]

I’ve never skated anything before. I don’t know why I’m binging these

[@Hazook]

Haha, I’m here to help ya if you ever decide to get into the sport :))

[@musclebunny52]

@@Hazook I have decided I'm going to. What's the best site to buy the skates from?

[@Hazook]

It depends on the frames you want to get but 3:36 of my FAQ video explains how and where you can get them! Basically, after you choose the brand you want, you go to their manufacture’s website, look at their list of distributors, and find reputable ones from your country. That way, you can avoid taxes and expensive shipping fees. You also want to either get blades with boots premounted, or buy boots before you buy the frames so you know what size to get!

[@musclebunny52]

@@Hazook thank for the advice!! 👍

[@Hazook]

No problem, good luck!😊

[@rienn8559]

4:45 what other video?

[@imanidiot6837]

I NEED ONES

[@TanyaLeonova]

Subbed xx love this!

[@Hazook]

Thank you!

[@sk8er.panda.on.wheels]

Still a good video !! Just a quick comment: Linea Frames are available again and can be bought from shops in Italy. There are 2 separate versions available the ‘old’ one with a configurable rear wheel, and the ‘new’ one which is the one available today. I had the ‘old’ one and there were some issues with it (wheels didn’t turn properly, wobbly wheels, even bent frames some people). The new ones are better. I have just got mine, so I am still learning. :-) and yep, I had ‘off-ice’. I didn’t like the quality at all. It felt cheap, the wheels are small and unique for these squares, the toe picks are special to them as well. I do have Snow Whites which I love as well. Nice video! And I love the Risport Royal Elite in the background .. iceskates ;-) what blades do you have?

[@Hazook]

That's great to hear they're being made available again! I never knew about the rear wheel as well, that's so cool! It's a shame there were issues with the blade construction though, I'm glad they figured out how to smooth over their design a bit better. There was a very informative video a month or two ago on the figure skating subreddit about the stability of certain frames, and I believe either Pic or Off Ice was deemed pretty flimsy (I think the guy even bent the frame with his bare hands, which is terrifying once you start landing jumps on them and relying on them to not break mid-skating). Sadly, I've never really seen frames other than Snow White in real life so it's hard to get a measure on durability, but from the looks of it, the more expensive ones, (SW, GH, Starlight, and Roll Line) seem to be a lot stronger. Also, my Risports have Matrix Supremes :)

[@sk8er.panda.on.wheels]

@@Hazook You have just a positive, kind & very good way of explaining in videos. That is also why your training videos are so good & informative . thanks for sharing !

[@Hazook]

Thank you!

[@SunrisePicturesint]

@@Hazook I have Pic skates and they're very well made. It's hard to believe the frame would bend. They seem very strong.

[@Hazook]

It could also be that they’ve made improvements to the frame construction since the video I referenced. I think I remember seeing one of the Russian 3As (maybe Trusova?) doing some pretty high-level jumps when the pandemic first began... I hope you’re enjoying your inlines though!

[@kimhartleywellywood]

Have you tried or heard anything about Jackson mirage?I am in New Zealand and the only nz based supplier has this brand of frame With covid etc it’s simply not worth trying to buy a pair outside nz Anyone reading this who has any experience of these frames I would love your opinion, I could post the link where I can get them in nz but I don’t want to look like I am posting spam lol. The place that sells them offers a fitting service (I am at the other end of the country) where I measure, they send me some boots, and I’d I don’t like them pr they don’t fit, I can return for another pair or if nothing works, a refund mins shipping fees and stocking fees. But for obvious reasons they don’t offer that with the frames So I am trying to learn all I can before I buy

[@Hazook]

Shoot, sorry for such a delayed reply! I haven’t heard much about Jacksons’ inline frame but they’re a really reputable company in figure skating so I would hope and assume their frames would match the quality associated with their brand! Let me know if you do end up getting them, I’d love to hear whether you liked them or not😄

[@יפהמלמד-ד9צ]

Thank yoi its realy help me

[@Hazook]

I’m glad it was helpful!☺️

[@Angelika5378]

But why are the inlines so expensive. I have Jackson artiste ice skates. Cost was 170€ I found Jackson mystics with I think snow whites frame and the price is 250....

[@imanidiot6837]

I go with Snow White Skates- Bc they are more on my type- oof, but they are SOOO EXPENSIVE-

[@Hazook]

Snow whites are quite expensive but I think they’re worth the investment if you really enjoy figure skating and have the motivation to learn to skate in them!

[@imanidiot6837]

@@Hazook yes! I just have to earn money TvT hehehe thanks for the reviews! The best review I've ever watched ÙvÚ

[@Hazook]

Thank you!(*'▽'*) Good luck!!!

[@imanidiot6837]

@@Hazook Mhm! 🍓🍓👑

[@ertfgghhhh]

Off ice are really cheap. I bought them for £212 and the shipping was £56 that is with the intermediate boot they provide and elite blade pack.

[@dakcheolkang5627]

How much do they feel like real ice skating? :)

[@ertfgghhhh]

@@dakcheolkang5627 idk. Check out vids. Many say they are similar

[@pororo6968]

helloo i love watching your videos, they're so informative and i love your positive attitude to figure skating. this video was really helpful for me to consider the differences between the frames were. by the way, i wanted to know if the website you referenced (sk8gear) was reliable. i live in australia but i'm scared it might be risky. thank you and keep up the great work🥰🥰

[@Hazook]

simple white thank you! I’ll be honest, I used sk8gear because they were one of the only American sites with almost all frames listed in their inventory so I’d get the easiest price comparison. If you’ve decided on a specific brand of frame, try looking at the manufacturer’s website to find distributors from your country. That way, you won’t have to worry about conversion fees, import tax, shipping taking forever, and all that other ‘fun’ stuff. Once you find a distributor, you can try googling ‘[distributor name] scam’ or ‘[distributor name] reviews’ to see how other people found the service, quality, etc. It’s a pretty hefty investment so spending an extra few minutes verifying distributors could save you in the future (this coming from someone who almost got burned by one of the distributors in Canada)! Good luck!

[@pororo6968]

@@Hazook oh my gosh thank you for your genuine feedback😘 i'm learning about inline figure skating and your videos are lifesavers💞

[@Hazook]

Thank you!

[@bobo7567]

i cant find any figure skate in malaysia

[@Hazook]

Shoot, you might be able to import them from a nearby country? (Sorry, my world geography’s pretty bad so I’m bad with countries but) Korea, China, Taiwan, Hong Kong all have larger inline figure skate communities so there might be some good retailers there?

[@emilflores7400]

Im from asia and i couldn't find any kind of inline figure skate even online shops.

[@Hazook]

Oh shoot, have you tried the distributors tabs from the manufacturers? I talk about it briefly in my FAQ video if that's any help, but usually, the frame manufacturers will list out the shops that sell their frames by country. If not, you might have to import them from somewhere (depending on which country you live in, you might want to try for neighbouring ones of a North American/European country that has the least amount of import taxes!)

[@D4RTHR0S3]

Nice video girl :)

[@Hazook]

Thank you!

[@D4RTHR0S3]

@@Hazook I'm an inline figure skating coach, so if you need help, you can ask :) Don't forget to read my articles about that sport : www.online-skating.com/articles-4541-testing-the-roll-line-linea-artistic-skating-frames.html

[@D4RTHR0S3]

@@Hazook the new Golden Horse frame, is rockered : instagram.com/goldenhorseskates/

[@Hazook]

Woah, that’s really cool, their early designs look really promising!

[@羅財明-o8n]

and also Taiwan (TW) shyejyh Inline Figure skating

[@Hazook]

That's one I've never seen! Unfortunately, this video's pretty outdated since it was made a couple years ago right before Jacksons, GH, and others released new frames. I'll hopefully make an updated video sometime this spring, I'll be sure to include those frames on the list!

[@羅財明-o8n]

@@Hazook youtube.com/@user-ko2vi7yh5t

[@xiangyuncheng8250]

nice

[@DjDiamstatOfficial]

Who names a product STD?

[@Hazook]

Haha, I actually learned later it stands for 'standard', but it still was a bit of a misstep for their product development team

[@יפהמלמד-ד9צ]

You are so cute🥰

[@Hazook]

Thank you☺️💕

[@jamieisnotokay3298]

I hope you don't mind, but what are your pronouns?

[@Hazook]

I don’t mind at all, thank you for asking! I prefer they/them but I don’t mind she/her :)

[@jamieisnotokay3298]

@@Hazook :)

[@janettelumbao7262]

Hii, so I've been using those regular inline skates and I rlly wanna get the artistic ones but I don't know what type of skates that are suitable for begginers who have js started🫶

[@helenpage6201]

Hi! First of all, I wanted to congratulate you for this video, it’s absolutely well done and informative. 🤍 I’ve always wanted to figure skate (on ice), like my entire life, but unfortunately there aren’t any rinks in my city right now (only in winter but I never had the possibility to go). Apart from which skate I’ll specifically choose, would you say it won’t be THAT hard for me to switch from these to figure skates when they’ll finally open them or if they’ll finally restore the only place that used to have a rink? It’s so hard to find people on the internet who actually know about this stuff and I believe you’re very informed. I’ve always found skaters who talked about how it was for them to go from ice skating to in-line skating (and they were actually pretty good even when they switched to in-line skates so I’m guessing it isn’t completely different?), but I don’t really know how it feels to do the opposite. What do you think? Sorry for the long comment, I hope I didn’t bother you that much!

[@Hazook]

Thank you! I cover this in one of my FAQ videos, as well as the Back to Ice video, but while there is always a bit of an adjustment period when switching, it's totally possible to move skills you learned from one onto another! I learned most of my jumps as well as most of my tricks on inlines during the summer and moved them to the ice for the winter. The mechanics of certain things like turns and stopping are different though, which makes the transition hard, but most of the general ideas are the same. It's kinda like switching between an automatic and manual car, there'll be a lot of small differences in how you drive, but the basic concepts are all the same. Be super careful when you finally switch to ice though because it's significantly more slippery and you want to be careful of not falling wrong.

[@helenpage6201]

@@Hazook I’m sorry, I’ve just discovered your channel and I haven’t watched that video yet! :( Thank you so much for answering my question anyway, even if you already had, I’m so sorry if I wasted your time! You’ve been more than clear and once again I compliment you for that 🤍 you’re so talented and sweet

[@Hazook]

Thank you! No worries, I'm here to help!😊