What is a Traditional Martial Art? | ART OF ONE DOJO

What makes an art traditional? What criteria do we use to determine if an art is traditional or not? In light of the never ending debate between modern fighting styles and more traditional martial arts, we wanted to take a look to see if we could find the defining line. What is a Traditional Martial Art?
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[@camiloiribarren1450]

That final broad definition definitely checks the boxes on what traditional arts are. This works perfectly because many arts have certain focus on philosophy, fighting techniques, understanding anatomy, spirituality and help individuals find more about themselves

[@NYKgjl10]

Definitely one of the best video from Art of One Dojo. To me, what makes the art better is you, the practitioner. Respect from a Kyokushin Karateka!!

[@truevinister6278]

This was a great video, great info, well done. But as my instructor says, “when did lineage ever win a fight?” ;)

[@goktimusprime]

The original purpose of martial arts is combat. "Martial." In a modern context this means self defence. Martial arts is a survival skill and that's how I judge the merit of any art

[@bonyul1151]

I once asked my Shotokan instructor how can we define our art since so many styles use the term traditional even when they're not, he said that his teacher Osamu Ozawa Sensei told him to use the term "Authentic" Shotokan karate, not traditional.

[@MikesDadvice]

one of my favorite things about martial arts is "style" not Kenpo or Taekwondo per se, but personal style, my sensei teaches us the forms and techniques, then encourages us, when we reach the middle ranks to collect every tool we can and put it in the toolbox, even if we don't like it or don't think it will work...now that I am nearing black, I can see that my sensei has allowed the class to each develop their own style by using the tools that work and experimenting with all of them, and although my sensei and I are the same age, our styles are vastly different

[@randomuser5443]

I think the difference is where it is perceived to be from. East is traditional and western is sports

[@MesserTAMU]

I think that the true difference is perception is about as accurate of an answer as possible.

[@KenpoKid77]

The crazy thing with that line of thinking is, there are some Western martial arts like pankration and HEMA weaponry that pre-date some Eastern martial arts.

[@KurtAngle89]

There's a Ramsey Dewey video that illustrates how Bjj was considered "modern" and was founded in 1925, while TKD is considered "traditional" and founded in 1955

[@Docinaplane]

TKD was a blend of five to nine Kwans that preceded the name by about 5-10 years, but the skills were not any different at that time.

[@doubleb222able]

I find it ironic that most "traditional" styles are fairly new and really have no true connection to traditional techniques used. Mostly they are just an art that became more popular by someone who cross trained and multiple arts and made their own

[@hancehinerman8099]

Awesome video sir! 🥋🙇🏼‍♂️🙏🏼

[@ruiseartalcorn]

Great video, many thanks. I am a Kung Fu/Silat guy but draw on the experience of having trained in many systems and try to keep "up-to-date" with modern martial arts needs. I therefore like to think of myself as a "modern-traditional" martial artist... whatever that means ;)

[@septred3]

Traditional or non-traditional, I train in my budding style.

[@StevenAbney]

Great video once again!

[@kickingitwiththekerofskys8476]

To me a traditional martial art is one with a old rooted lineage, utilizes classic kata, and has a adopted belt ranking structure. Thanks for the history of Gichen Funikoshi and Kano, of the Meiji Restoration, and such. I feel it is important to teach history in the martial arts along with the movements and self defense. That is what I teach to my students. Always enjoy your vids. Oss. Master K, MA

[@sliderx1897]

Another well put together video. U never disappoint, Dan!

[@returnbydeath6778]

Great video! The points were very well explained!

[@scottrussell876]

I Love martial arts period... All styles... If it can help develop personal growth and defend myself in the streets then I’m all in... We as martial artist have that right to expand and become better whether it’s traditional or combat fighting... At the end of the day... It’s all about love and respect for the craft

[@davidpiper779]

WOW ! Oops You did again . Made an awesome video. Sensei Dan I believe that sums it up..

[@Knight2682]

Dig it. Love your commentary at the end about training in a martial art that works for you. Trained in a few martial arts systems over the last 20+ years and they've all had a common theme of practicing the traditional historical aspects and also embracing the modern and realistic aspects of self defense and the way people actually fight

[@KageKirin]

Fair question: Is olympic wrestling (Greco-Roman wrestling) a traditional martial art? What about pancrace (pankration)?

[@raymondfarinas1913]

Ancient olympics,yes. Modern olympics,NO.

[@MesserTAMU]

Been looking forward to this one since it was announced.

[@RhapsodyGroove]

I try to refrain from using the TMA as a term. I like to think of it between Complete and Incomplete systems. Complete systems involve all aspects from grappling to weapons (TKD, Karate, etc) while incomplete take on a specific portion and expand on it (BJJ, Boxing, etc.) Usually, incomplete is what we find in popular sports because they are easier to follow by technique. Truly it's all about the fighter as we all know.

[@MesserTAMU]

This definition will run into trouble when defining complete. Is tkd complete when it leaves out pistols and tasers? Are MCMAP and krav maga examples of complete even though they don't cover swords or throwing stars? Though it does make for another interesting categorization.

[@RhapsodyGroove]

@@MesserTAMU complete as in it involves all elements, not all techniques. Even if they involve one weapon, weapon combat is involved. You're getting more specific to a generalization than need be.

[@Vincentorix]

For me it's like you said in 4 words. "Making a better You". To me that is what martial arts is. It dose seem that some martial arts provide more avenues that may help you become a better you then others. That being said not everyone needs a lot of options as everyone is different. I think we should just feel privileged that in today's day and age we do have all these different martial arts and styles to learn from and not waste our time and effort trying to determine which one is better then the other. To much of that on social media these day's.

[@littlegiantrobo6523]

Not to confound this too much, but for folks into history, all martial arts practiced for sport or self-defense are modern as the early modern era begins somewhere around 1500, and the late modern era still starts early at around 1750 (according to wikipedia [probably pretty accurate in this case]). Just trying to be silly and serious at the same time. But, to answer your question at the end, I don't distinguish between traditional and modern. I think of them as traditional or sport martial arts, and my distinction defines them by the ways they change and are transmitted. Sport arts are taught to whoever walks in the gym looking for training, and training is offered to nearly everyone that wants it. These arts change based on the needs and shifting trends of the sport, and the purpose of these arts and their changes are always to win at the sport. Traditional arts are passed down to selected students through an unwritten system of loyalty and dedication (for better or worse). As the traditional art is transmitted to other contemporaries and others of the next generations, the arts change to accommodate and adapt to the experiences of the new teachers. Within traditional arts, there are classical arts (the purpose of which is primarily to preserve the old arts) and there are self defense arts (the purpose of which I hope is self-explanatory). Obviously, there is a lot of room for "woo" and mysticism. None of this is bad or wrong, in any way (except for the woo and mysticism), but it's important for folks to understand what they are getting and getting into when they look for a school to join or look for an instructor.

[@214warzone]

Traditional = training most of the time without shoes 😊

[@KurtAngle89]

Seems legit😅 but kung fu doesn't, and it's 4000 years old

[@yhettifreight516]

I enjoy being bare of shoes. Clunky and make my ankles hurt. I feel confident and free without them. Granted, my coffee table has brought me to my knees more than once.

[@moreparrotsmoredereks2275]

How often do you wear shoes while training for MMA? Almost never.

[@KenpoJutsu-FullContact]

Very good ! 🙏🙌

[@johnnytrejo911]

In today’s modern era of Martial Arts were you have MMA trash TMA because of UFC use what works. But forget TMA one can benefit from it. What may work for you in self defense may not work in a sports fighting setting or maybe it can. Like someone says this is a loaded question. I believe if say one trains in a TMA and is proficient in it , uses it in a practical manner for self defense. It will be effective in our modern setting. No matter what Art you train in. If it’s practical and effective , and it’s been pressure tested. Keep training in it. And pass it on , so it won’t pass away. I look at wrestling ( there are many forms of wrestling that is effective!) even show moves in pro wrestling, like a power bomb or a DDT , if don’t right , you can hurt someone. And Wing Chun Gung Fu training in the traditional form and even modifying it for it to be practical, it will work. I love the Non Classical Gung Fu , the Jun Fan art, wrestling arts even the FMA’s and Wing Chun and old style Boxing like a style Jack Dempsey style. Everything can be trained and be effective in real life. You just have to train it. And I’m not talking about Sport Fighting aspect. I look at Kenpo / Kempo , Kung Fu San Soo, even Bruce Lee’s translation of Wing Chun that he 1st taught Jesse Glover as traditional in a way. Is effective, so is Judo , and Japanese Jujitsu, I consider effective and traditional MA It’s in the eyes of the beholder and someone who trains i their given art 👍🏼

[@The-Travel-Man]

Most martial arts that we have are modern arts with some of them having traditional training methods, such as makiwara board, etc.. All Karate styles whether Okinawan or Japanese, are modern as they were assembled and popularized in early 1900's. The same goes for JJ, BJJ and Judo, etc.. If a system has been transmitted over centuries without any change in forms, training methods or concepts, such system can then be classified as "traditional". I can't think of any traditional system that survived centuries of pressure testing.

[@joshuahogan3475]

I always divide martial arts into two categories based on two Japanese suffixes. Even though there are a myriad of arts that come from different parts of the world these suffixes seem to work fairly well to describe the two main categories of all styles. 1. Do - Way or path. An art designed for self defense, spiritual growth, health, or sport. Examples would be Judo, tai chi, and even boxing. 2. Jutsu (or jitsu) - Art. The purpose of this style is to kill your opponent on the battlefield as quickly and efficiently as possible. If you get something spiritual out of it then good for you! 😅 Examples would be Krav Maga (the military not civilian version), Kali, Kenjutsu, etc. It's not perfect but it works for me. 😄

[@mymartialartacademy2343]

Nice Sir! Oss! Respect from Pakistan!!

[@rysonperry8069]

Great video, good discussion of the issue from both sides. The main point I think comes down to the "core" of not just the style; but also of the influences that contributed, as well as the practitioner. Discussion can be good but at the end of the day, all that matters is the choices of the individual.

[@manjunath.m5336]

Hi one dojo. Please tell us about enshin karate. Thank you.

[@Soldier-of-God.]

This is quite intriguing and on the topic of 'traditional martial arts ' sort to speak boxing and wrestling (not the WWE) type, are usually overlooked as being traditional combat systems. Then there are the weapons arts, such as the sword, bo, or archery for example that get often overlooked as well! Instead of the 'traditional versus non traditional' debate, I would say that the question should be a more, a comparison between, a well structured, strict, heavily regimented, ritualistic (bowing, school pledge or oath, code of conduct) wearing a uniform with coloured belts or coloured sashes and so forth. Versus more modern, hybrid, no uniforms, no strict etiquette, no belts or ranking systems, no bowing, no gradings, no set heavily structured teaching curriculum and overall a more relaxed approach to training. Then there is yet again the further comparison of strictly or predominantly self defense focused martial arts school, in comparison to a mostly competition oriented martial arts conglomerate, or sometimes as it can be the case with Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu and Kyokushin Karate for example, both have their self defense aspect as their primary objective, yet they also simultaneously address and participate in the competitive side of things. In the end the future cannot exist without the present, nor the present without the past, also the past needs to progress into the present, then subsequently into the future. Martial arts likewise are linked time span of another, in terms of its evolution, where there is something beneficial to us all, depending specifically on what we need, what we want and what suits us best! Greetings as always from Melbourne, Australia 🇲🇽🇦🇺🥋🤟👍✌👊Sensei Dan, Osu!

[@1allspub]

Spot on!

[@erichenry8878]

there is a distinct difference between "traditional" and "classical" art. In Martial Arts, classical tends to lean towards anachronism while and tradition must have a substance worth "trade". This requires updating and upgrading, and sometimes even going back and taking a hard look at what the pragmatic original purpose of the skills were designed to impart. Nothing is more frustrating than watching a misrepresentation of bunkai with ridiculous initiating attacks and outlandish notions of "countering". In my 30 years of practice in traditional arts and competing in for 7 years as a full time MMA fighter as well as professional security work over the course of 20+ years I can say with certainty that MMA training and defensive tactical training have little to do with each other technically. MMA's best attribute is that it pressure tests our emotional stability in direct confrontation, but this is not a modern invention, full contact limited (or no)rules matched are thousands of years old so also must be considered traditional. There is nothing special or new about MMA, it is only a new title leading an ancient activity with modern safety innovations.

[@sparky_sipaintball705]

The best martial arts is the one you benefit from. I like traditional.

[@geoffreyfletcher6976]

And in some traditional arts like judo and Japanese Jūjutsu, and Aikidõ certain prearranged two person drills or examples of techniques in the curriculum are also labeled as "kata".

[@ShaunCKennedyAuthor]

I've faced some of this. My Grandmaster combined his family style, Northern Long Fist, and three different styles of Northern Praying Mantis when he made the system I grew up in. In college, I met another guy that learned a different style of Praying Mantis and I "borrowed" some drills from him. (I fully intended to return them when I was done. I just hope I'm not done with them yet.) Then I learned Capoferro style Italian fencing, and it was the first time I learned something that changed the way I fought and the way I taught. I had a bunch of people who weren't sure if they should put me as a traditional or a mixed martial art. I told them I don't care how they classify me: the rules are on the wall so you're either here to learn or you're here to leave.

[@5dragonskarategoryukarate-890]

Tradition should be the foundation. But a true martial artist evolves.

[@BD90..]

If it works then that is all that matters.

[@zachfleming5297]

I've also wonder why bjj is not traditional but karate is? They both come from the 1920s.

[@sliderx1897]

You should check out the book opening closed guard by Robert Drysdale.

[@zachfleming5297]

@@sliderx1897 I have. And choque is good too. Any way you want to cut the cake Brazil had schools working mosting on ne-waze from 1925

[@sliderx1897]

@@zachfleming5297 but u do have a point ive always considered bjj traditional but most dont.

[@carljustice8035]

U are awesome

[@billtaylor1656]

Traditional is what you call it, example Thanksgiving is an American tradition, so anything you do enough is tradition and gets carried on if that makes sense. I look at it as when I was a kid dinner was at 5 to 6. That's tradition.

[@mattbugg4568]

Traditional means it is a certain training that is passed down that has a classic attached to it. Like the water margin, Bible, Tao, classical texts poems etc. Were translated into systems of kung-fu. Like wing chun is the poem eternal springtime. Which was a pretty current form from a poem. Martial arts just because it has been around for a while doesn't make it Traditional. It's kinda a fallacy because modern times people have screwed up transmissions because they don't understand this.

[@highchamp1]

Syllabus If they are still working on the system it's Modern. If not Traditional.

[@jamielondon6436]

That's not a bad way of looking at it …

[@ta5777]

Kalari from Kerala is considered the oldest martial art. Would be interesting to see info on that in future vids

[@CarlosRivera-se3si]

Very informative and we leave in a time were everyone in martial arts think there system is traditional. Like you end the video we all must put our differences to the side come as 1.

[@AliFayeFaye]

I see it more of "traditions IN martial arts" than "traditional martial arts." Every style has its traditions, old or new. To set styles aside, I also see different types of practices or reasons to train; Practical, sport, performance, & physical. Practical= using the lessons in your every day life Sport= competition with rules Performance= tricking, gymnastics, strength, ec. for entertainment Physical= enjoyable workout I feel maybe that is what people confuse traditional with?

[@fourscorpio]

Very good detail -- interestingly though, my core style is Okinawan Kenpo, but in Hawaii the traditional community put on a lot of traditional tournaments, and as a consequence, my sensei focused a lot on competition. Even to the point where I learned some advanced Shotokan kata like Unsu and Gojushiho Sho which weren't part of the traditional curriculum.

[@MikesDadvice]

I have always considered Traditional Martial Arts as generally just a single style, vs MMA witch is multiple styles taught by one instructor or school

[@philipmoore960]

Parodox, a student of a martial art gets to 5th Dan He/She has learnt their parent arts syllabus, then they would learn another art. Example a jujutsu instructor later learned karate. Result Wado Ryu. Traditional..? Regards Phil moore

[@williamw1332]

Well done Dan, another thought provoking video! Awesome 👍 Traditional martial arts are a great starting point, and Ko Ryu arts are excellent for the preservation of techniques, knowledge, and history. Combat techniques are ever evolving, demanding we be adaptive, whatever the martial art.

[@Abluemoon9112]

I do martial art not because I want to learn how to fight. I do martial art because I like it.

[@rollandbissonnette]

Without traditional martial arts there is no modern arts

[@jons6834]

I personally think at a traditional martial art is one that tries to maintain the traditions as set forth by the art’s founder. If you mention a martial art and that art is synonymous with an individual founder, then it’s a traditional art. For example: American Kenpo = Ed Parker JKD = Bruce Lee Wing Chun = Ip Man Shotokan = Gichin Funakoshi Aikido = Morihei Ueshiba To name a few Now in contrast name the founder of: Boxing Wrestling Muay Thai Capoeria Savate Maybe I’m wrong maybe those styles have founders. Feel free to correct me if I’m wrong.

[@brandonh4527]

I am pretty much in agreement with that. A traditional martial art should have a syllabus, lineage, rank system. I will disagree with the academic studies, philosophy and personal growth. Ko-ryu did not care about any of that and it is by definition traditional. They cared about 1 primary goal, to give their practitioners the knowledge to win in combat. Anything else is a secondary or tertiary benefit and not typically deliberately sought out . Personal growth was the last thing they cared about, and for the most part, that is what I believe should be today. If it is a martial art, then the number one goal should be combat effectiveness. If it is a martial sport, then do what you want.

[@mattsara1765]

How many Katas are in kenpo? The forms are similar to bunkai or step sparring. Goju ryu has twelve katas including sanchin and tensho

[@ArtofOneDojo]

Kenpo Katas are broken up by "Forms" and "Sets". Forms are basically full Kata, sets are basically smaller katas that isolate a specific idea. Forms (they start basic and they build off each other. The first is simple and they keep adding to it as they go up in rank, like an inverted pyramid. Forms: Short Form 1, Long Form 1, Short Form 2, Long Form 2, Short Form 3, Long Form 3, Form 4, Form 5, Form 6, (there are shorter abbreviated version for tournaments), and SOME schools teach Form 7 and 8, but those are far less common. Sets: Blocking Set 1 and Blocking Set 2, Kicking Set 1, Kicking Set 2, Coordination Set 1, Coordination Set 2, Striking Set 1, Striking Set 2, Stance Set 1, Stance Set 2, Bo Staff Set, and a Two man Form. Typically you learn one set and one form per belt level.

[@barrettokarate]

If a certain system follows certain customs and training methods that have been passed for generations then personally I would consider it "traditional" regardless of birthplace or age. But ultimately what matters is how effective a system is. Because we all know there are certain arts that are considered "traditional" and very effective. And we all know certain arts (not mentioning any names, but we know one very famous one in particular) that are also "traditional" that aren't very effective. A lot of people would consider my art, American Tang Soo Do as non-traditional because it was founded by a westerner in the mid-1960s. But the fact is that it's lineage still goes back to Korean and Japan. We still use keikogi, belts, Asian terminology, bowing, kata, etc. Over the course of the years I've cross trained in traditional jujitsu and Brazilian jiu-jitsu does that make it any less "traditional"? I've done armed private security in some pretty shady areas. In the end thankfully I've come home in one peace because of my training and isn't that what truly matters? Isn't that what the old masters (except for maybe Funakoshi) strove for...being effective when you needed to be? Yes and Yes.

[@rabronin]

I would much rather judge a martial arts system based on how practical it is.

[@chrislampkin7896]

Could it be that any martial arts discipline that has a tradition is traditional?

[@RustikWudworks]

Hey, If a dojan says it takes 4 years to get a black belt, and there a kids wearing em is it a mcdojo?...or if they have a 1 year and 3 year sign up plan (not crazy expensive) is that a sign? I know you did videos on this topic. But today was my first day of TKD and Hapkido. I'm just very weary....I'm afraid I'm surrounded by mcdojos

[@ArtofOneDojo]

It would depend, are those kids full black belts or are they a "Junior Black Belt Rank"?

[@Scorch1028]

When it comes to traditional martial arts, it may be said that: "This art may be an oldie, but she's a goodie." Dan, in your case, the "Lone Kimono" that your opponent has "never seen" before, could very well be the technique that knocks him to the ground and ends the fight.

[@jamielondon6436]

I think the video's making a bit light of the major split the Meiji Restauration constitutes in Japanese history. The date argument is pretty hypothetical, and a bit ridiculous because it misses the point: With the end of the bakufu and the modernisation of Japan MA fundamentally changed with regards to their role and place in society.

[@progect2501]

i personally don't like the term traditional. weather its old or new i only see martial arts. i believe that martial arts are constantly evolving and changing. even the older styles change from teacher to teacher, because what they teach is based on the interpretation of there art. i also believe that there is a lot that we can learn from arts other then our chosen style. my chosen martial art to practice is Shotokan karate, but iv started to include some of the training from Kyokushin karate in my personal training. Also one of my best friends and mentors is a master in NIn jutsu, even though i have no intention of practising nin jutsu i love watching my friend teach because i alway's learn something that in hanses my own art. That being said. traditions will always be a part of martial arts and they should be. I respect tradition in martial arts a lot, because without the traditions we have no foundation or respect, and that is one of the most important parts of any martial art.

[@Shadowrulzalways]

Kyokushin Karate is traditional as a whole. But was modernized as a sport.

[@tobias8826]

To me is asking "-Is it traditional or modern martial arts?" like asking "-Is it green or an apple?". For me is the opposite to traditional is progressive. A traditional teacher, teaches what the teacher was taught. Progressive mostly what "worked" for that teacher or seen "work". Both have pros and cons in my opinion.

[@emiruou1718]

Video about hokutoryu jujutsu please😇🇫🇮

[@jimmycampbell6232]

As a child I studied a martial art named American Bushido . They traced their roots back to Okinawa, I can find nothing on this martial art now. Have you any knowledge of this style?

[@ArtofOneDojo]

I have not, I would have to do some digging. It's honestly had to trace arts in the states sometimes... Adding "American" to a title is a good way to cloud things sometimes.

[@jimmycampbell6232]

@@ArtofOneDojo Thank you if you have time I'd love to know it was a very effective form of Karate. I recall our learning our style was a cousin to the art of Bando . Which I know nothing of. I appreciate you sharing ur kindness and knowledge your friend Jimmy.

[@koolaidmanbjj6128]

Do you think you could do a video on 10th planet jiu jitsu?

[@ArtofOneDojo]

Possibly one day :) I'll add it to the list of considerations :)

[@studentj.condie8137]

So I come from a budding style that was based in Tae Kwon Do but evolved into something else, but it still sits heavily on this idea of traditional martial arts. Can someone help me out with some advice on this? I think the traditional way of martial arts is great but I am being a bit negative asking, is it worth staying when the negative aspects start showing there head? My Studio was pretty small at one time so...EGO, wasn't that big of problem. But now the degree within my system seems to be affect how some black belts treat others. I assume most watching this have experience with traditional martial arts. I ask again, is it worth staying?

[@ArtofOneDojo]

If you have become dissatisfied with the school and you don't feel you are getting what you wanted out of it, then you may want to reconsider your commitment to that school.

[@darkapostate8358]

Japanese martial arts are either koryu or not. Koryu arts are *generally* ones that existed, or have clear roots, during the Sengoku era or earlier. This means they were tried and used in MARTIAL environments, proven to be lethal and effective. The exception is aikido which is considered to be koryu, despite when it was founded. Other cultures have different measures, but the line is usually 'was it used for war?' As for BJJ, the Gracies obtained shodan in jujutsu and then practiced on their own for years, as I recall. In this sense it has traditional roots, but is not a traditional art.

[@dinardoworldwide]

good.

[@JIBMONEY]

From my experice as a Sihing that is now in Kempo. I see traditional is drill focused instead of feal of the art. This is my opinion. The traditional arts are more centered on one art as for modern all arts apply as a tool box.

[@weredevil616]

I personal think who cares what colour the cat is as long as it kills mice’s. I think the MMA junkies get caught up a lot in “that wouldn’t work in the cage.” The traditional guys get caught up in “that wouldn’t work in real life.” As long as the style is affective to your goals then I don’t see what’s wrong with doing it. My personal list would be Boxing Muay Thai Kyukushin karate (no reason other then I like the look of it.) Judo Sambo Freestyle wrestling Greco Roman wrestling Catch wrestling Brazilian ju-jitsu Some have a lot of overlap but they are the ones that are geared to my goals.

[@SoldierDrew]

Martial = Military. Military Arts are based upon warfare, not unarmed dueling. Warfare is based upon military tactics, weapons, logistics, communications, supply, medical and gathering intelligence. Martial/Military arts are not unarmed dueling arts. What westerners call 'martial' arts are unarmed dueling arts, brawling arts and self-defense arts. Former Militaries fought with spears, shields, projectile weapons, clubbing weapons and swords. After firearms, military/martial artists (warriors/Soldiers) fight with firearms, bombs, missiles, chemical weapons. Never was unarmed combat how militaries conducted battles. What's refered to as military/martial hand to hand combat included melee weapons such as clubs, knives, daggers, mace and cudgel. Even in ancient biblical recordings "martial/military" combat was done with weapons. Not fists and kicks. Tell a lie long enough it becomes universally accepted as truth by the masses whom parrot words, phrases and ideas as if they're unadulterated truth. Now we say, speak "your" truth, "his" truth, "her" truth, as though truth is an opinion and there is no absolute universal truth. Martial literally means Military. Never in history were military battles fought without weapons. I digress.

[@domhnaillomuiri5497]

No kickboxing is a grey area , under half the organisations of kickboxing around the world they practice karate built into there kickboxing and have belt Systems , use Japanese terms, learn self defence and learn other karate moves , this is because kickboxing was founded for karatetaka to complete in the 1960s to have a full contact fight being able to use the skills .

[@danielcarrillo4385]

I am torn....I am interested in training in Karate but there is an abundance of mcdojos and honestly my background is in Wrestling, Judo and Jiujitsu.....the only traditional martial art I have done is Capoeira.....anyone got any good sources or clues to finding a good school....also I am consistently frustrated as it seems they are all kids with like 2 adults in the class

[@ArtofOneDojo]

We did a couple videos on McDojos, maybe those can help you look for warning signs?

[@danielcarrillo4385]

@@ArtofOneDojo no it's just seems that with all the obsession about M.M.A. that's just where the money is and a lot of the old guys I used to know who did Sanda, Judo and Karate they were legit...but no one is interested in training them...so it's all just geared towards kids frankly

[@timwinchester354]

All traditional martial arts were once modern martial arts.

[@AlsAllMetalDetecting]

Here's one to consider. There's no style better than any other. As a matter of fact, there is no real style. There's only the principals which are shared by all combat systems. No need to practice any one or more martial art. Practice the principals which every system uses so you can adapt to any "style" A true master knows what these principals are. How many can recite them without Googling the subject? Also, different styles or systems may emphasize more on a certain set of principals but less on others, thus the reason people tend to go from one system to the next always trying to find that missing piece. It will not be found by doing this & it would take a lifetime, several lifetimes to finally have all of the principals using this method. Skip the martial arts way for finding these principals as it will be a waste. Train in the principals behind all styles. Yes. I could provide you with the list of principals as they were provided to me by my master very early on. He was an Army Ranger 3rd battalion & Korean War vet who had to use his training during actual combat. He received his training both in special forces training as well as while stationed in Japan from 1948-1950. He studied under the great masters of the time & also became an instructor for the military police. Right after WW2, our military wanted the hand to hand fighting techniques the Japanese had but they didn't have the time to have their soldiers study for the years it would traditionally take. The masters streamlined the system for the military by providing the principals behind all styles so our soldiers could adapt instantly. Unfortunately, soon after the Korean War, most of the training was diluted by instructors that never received the proper training themselves. This is a prime reason why martial arts here in the west is more like a collaboration or MMA. It's all about trying to find the way back to the principals behind all styles.

[@davidreynoso8833]

Emperor Meiji isn´t the same emperor from the movie the last samurai with Keanu Reaves ?

[@camiloiribarren1450]

The movie The Last Samurai was with Tom Cruise, not Keanu

[@davidreynoso8833]

@@camiloiribarren1450 you are right bro my mistake i don´t know why i ialways confused both actors probably they look the same

[@camiloiribarren1450]

@@davidreynoso8833 all good. No problem. Just a small little detail that is not that big a deal

[@SAM-ru4vx]

Sloth with hamster fist is best bullshitdo

[@coltonowens2742]

Maybe we can all finally realize how stupid term is and put it to rest. There are only two types of martial arts. Ones with good training methods, and ones with bad training methods.

[@kaisersoze9886]

Through all this hoy palloy MMA becomes almost traditional

[@rm89]

You can use two hand grips and say subhanallah a lot. This is kung fu. Allah give rewards for saying subhanallah a lot. Kung fu is the granddaddy of hand to hand fighting.

[@nthekitchen162]

Shotokan

[@blockmasterscott]

Now this is a loaded question lol. For me, I’ve always considered traditional martial arts as Asian based with uniforms and forms. Especially when bare hand conditioning is part of the curriculum.

[@olgaluna528]

I do shotokan karate

[@214warzone]

Yes

[@kaisersoze9886]

All that shit. Comes from zen. Most of the words rather honor etc have been employed by soto and rinzai zen. Yeas as much as I h a te bragging. I am a rinzai master aaaaa!a!aaaahhhhhhh this is also why karate is so hard

[@bylhmidtmbar8436]

Awesome 😍💋 💝💖♥️❤️

[@ellis1289]

Who cares

[@ArtofOneDojo]

Unfortunately too many. This is an argument that comes up a lot.

[@annejoannjoan4047]

Awesome 😍💋 💝💖♥️❤️