Finnaly sommeone does a lab test vs heart rate test , namaste very much !
@Eric-lx8hp4 жыл бұрын
Before I was running garmin gave me a score of 37 which is poor. 2 years later with consistent Running now at 53 which us excellent
@mikkihintikka72733 жыл бұрын
good job!
@zippydoo95333 жыл бұрын
Well that is encouraging because I read that the research says VO2MAX is genetic and can only be changed slightly. Glad I read your post. Maybe there is hope for me yet.
@AlbertWeijers3 жыл бұрын
My Garmin says 48, my labtest says 43. So I have a feelgood watch.
@joyridaz4 жыл бұрын
Per my Garmin, I increase my vo2max by taking a couple days off, and doing a tempo run in the cold.... then if I want it to go down... I just run slowly in the heat :o)
@stijndesmet48114 жыл бұрын
got exactly the same. got y first garmin at the start of the winter, started with 56 and it just plumetted due to all the slow runs i have been doing. sitting at 45 now...
@Eric-lx8hp4 жыл бұрын
Hill runs bring it down
@stijndesmet48114 жыл бұрын
@@aaronjohnson508 I'm reading phill maffetone's book right now and he states that VO2max is a seriously overrated metric. You can only test it properly with an anaerobic effort, but the endurance effort is 99% aerobic...
@mossab82092 жыл бұрын
@@stijndesmet4811 what's the name of the book?
@gemmapritchard18723 жыл бұрын
At last a good video showing the full test. We normally use Jonathan at the lab so this video is brilliant to show A level PE students
@10789macca4 жыл бұрын
VO2 Max depends greatly on genetics and represents your innate ability to do constant exercise; some people really do just have good genes! But you can improve VO2max by simply losing weight.
@hectorboone46623 жыл бұрын
Instablaster.
@Duck724323 жыл бұрын
Love how sport scientists always look like they’ve never ran
@mastertrey46833 жыл бұрын
lol
@limwowo59022 жыл бұрын
Lol coaches look plump too
@alistairhiggins99722 жыл бұрын
the coach in this vid is actually a great guy, he did my test today when I was on a school trip lol, scored 58.9, which i thought was decent considering I've been off peak recently lol
@MrTrackman1002 жыл бұрын
They look pretty fit to me. And nice running on that treadmill.
@ZeldaFitz2 жыл бұрын
Love how 98% of people that work in health look like they’ve never walked further than front door to car door.
@coachjohn3 жыл бұрын
Great info. I was surprised to see how accurate the watch was.
@thomasangermeier88224 жыл бұрын
Would be nice if you take more time in how to use VO2max at the end...this Table was confusing and I dont get your Message here...%VO2max equals %HR-zones??? My garmin shows 51 btw
@markowens44754 жыл бұрын
Mine is 61 from 49 I cycle 20 miles to work and back 4 times a week
@zyghom4 жыл бұрын
69? That is impressive. Garmin watches (same) are also capable to provide VO2 but not in static environment but you need to run of course Seeing VO2 max is not to compare with others but to see your progress - but of course you/we all know it ;-)
@supercurioTube4 жыл бұрын
In this example, the estimated VO2 Max is not too far off the measured one. However, wouldn't the accuracy of the estimate, based on resting heart rate and HRV be compromised by completing a max effort just earlier? Or maybe the ramp test was short enough to not increase the subject's fatigue/stress too much.
@jamesbailey50084 жыл бұрын
Surely doing the watch test an hour after a maximal test isn't the right protocol..
@Ashes31233 жыл бұрын
Why?
@sportexerciseandhealthscie59314 жыл бұрын
Hi Guys, amazing video. This had the perfect information for my IB sport science students. Thanks you.
@stephenmaxted68864 жыл бұрын
The factor you have not mentioned in regard to VO2 max is age! I am 66 years old and when tested 18 months ago in a lab on a bike, I had a VO2 max of 50mL/kg/min. The average value mentioned in your video was for a much younger person. The average for my age would be somewhere around 27mL/kg/min. It also seems that VO2 max varies with sport. My cycling VO2 max is higher than my VO2 max when running!
@wrxzboost4 жыл бұрын
curious how much max heart rates differ on a bike vs. running. i don't recall doing a "ramp" test for a run or a Vo2 max, but have done many on the bike and my bike zones are pretty accurate, but i assume my running zones would be different?
@scorpiontail25613 жыл бұрын
Well explained video.. I recently did the chester step test and failed at a vo2max of 29 I am 55 years old and was told to stop at level 3..I felt fine and was not even starting to feel it in any way difficult. Some people have told me to get a proper test as in this video.i know a diver who failed the step test..went and paid for a lab treadmill test and passed. Can anyone explain in lay terms the comparison and accuracy of the 2 tests
@rogerdodger88132 жыл бұрын
I thought I was bad, 60 years old and VO2 of 39. All I do is walk the dog regularly.
@Yamaha_Bolt4 жыл бұрын
Excellent video, wondering why you didn’t whip off that mask as soon as your test was over. Did your HR need to return to baseline? Can you do more videos like this, some that are HR based, like time to drop by x BPM as an indicator of fitness. I ditching my Garmin for a Polar Vantage V
@asnark71152 жыл бұрын
Maybe because cardiac response to stress is more of an indication of activity specific efficiency/adaptation? The same athlete might get wildly different gaps between resting-exertion across different activities?
@MrSteooo4 жыл бұрын
Top quality content 💪
@Leo1stPlay4 жыл бұрын
Crazy that the test on the treadmill didn't reach kipchoge marathon pace. 20.5kmh failure point
@michaelkennedy90314 жыл бұрын
If anyone tells me what their Vo2 is that hasn't been measured in a lab I tune out
@EMTobias4 жыл бұрын
The graph listed the zones as both %Max (VO2max) and %Max (Heart Rates), So why do I need to know my VO2max since I can just use the %MHR zones?
@markthrelfall35774 жыл бұрын
Eric Tobias good question. Most people will still use their %Max, even after a Vo2 Max test. Particularly if you’re using a watch, as it doesn’t give that level of detail. Therefore Vo2 Max is simply a very good performance marker to track
@key0s8724 жыл бұрын
Liked it. maybe an example for the table at the end would be nice.
@chriswalton25694 жыл бұрын
At 8:53 you show Zone 2 as 75-85 HR (%MAX), but Polar say it is 60-70% OF HRMAX...? Confused (www.polar.com/blog/running-heart-rate-zones-basics/)
@mrhmd83083 жыл бұрын
Is there a way to measure V02Max using a formula?
@mledkov3 жыл бұрын
That's kind of a strange table you've provided on 8:55. Suppose I don't know my heart rate zones, but only know my V02 max value - 57. From the table I can calculate which training zone matches which V02 max range. E.g. Zone 1: 26-37 (of VO2 max). However, how do I now calculate a particular heart rate range from the corresponding VO2 max range? My Garmin watch doesn't show VO2 max ranges.
@robertgergelyfi24602 жыл бұрын
Your Max Heart Rate is 220 - Age. If you´re 30 years old, your Max Heart Rate is 190. Than for example 75% from 190 is 142.
@guillaumemohr82362 жыл бұрын
According to your table, your maximum HR is enough to define your training zones. I dont’t understand how knowing your VO2Max helps in any way.
@BobBob-uv9fq3 жыл бұрын
Does my oxygen intake dictate anything to do with my leg strength ,ie will my legs perform better with more oxygen ,do they start to struggle because of lack of oxygen I’d
@Chimali4 жыл бұрын
mine VO2 is 43 :P ( i have 39 few month ago if garmin watch is true)
@maxw52294 жыл бұрын
thats a great improvement, either you lost some weight or you have become much fitter! Ride on
@Anton-zb9dc4 жыл бұрын
Garmin is really incorect
@Chimali4 жыл бұрын
@@maxw5229 well now i have 95kg and i have like 109 first few walk run now i run 4days in total 40km and ride on me bike to work 70km per week
@Anton-zb9dc4 жыл бұрын
@Johannes Kokozela, those are not predicting my vo2 max correctly, I have tested several times and it is about 77-78 at weight 76, so racing it's 80-82, and now garmin shows 69 (but bit earlyer when I did testing garmin showed 59)
@cubitusclaudius4 жыл бұрын
@@Anton-zb9dc my Garmin test gave exact same results as lab
@genesequence4 жыл бұрын
i'm not sure what i loved more - Fraser's look during the coin toss, or the super synth soundtrack during the ramp test! also, ***67.3!!*** well done, Fraser!
@patrickosullivan14374 жыл бұрын
How accurate is the garmin in analyzing vo2 max??
@mikkihintikka72733 жыл бұрын
my experience.+- 50%
@zippydoo95333 жыл бұрын
I workout religiously I take 6 to 7 Mile power walks,do calisthenics and lift weights. I got a fitness watch and found out my VO2MAX score is extremely low. Damn wish I never found out about VO2MAX, especially since I understand it's genetic and nothing much can be done to improve it.
@jaketwigg1065 Жыл бұрын
You should probably do more intense cardio
@cherylbroadway96743 жыл бұрын
My v02 max was 38 on mylast smartwatch but my new smartwatch when i did a 5k said 25 minutes what does this mean?i normally run a 5k in 30 mins
@1989srjones4 жыл бұрын
According to my Polar Vantage my vo2 max is higher than Fraser's (70). Assuming that is accurate (and i realise that's a big one) what else is it that makes me so much slower in a race?
@mustaphab.11904 жыл бұрын
Efficiency coefficient, mine is 65, the problem is surely technique related imo
@osmith84764 жыл бұрын
I just started running and after my first benchmark run garmin gave me a vo2 max of 61
@wikstrand3 жыл бұрын
what is it now after 11 months?
@biathlete85884 жыл бұрын
My maximal lactate is 15.8 Does it means that my VO2 max is more then 70 or somewhere between 65 and 70
@simobeats3 жыл бұрын
25 kph dang that's fast. As fast as an entry level electric kick scooter!
@ja94384 жыл бұрын
Can you increase VO2 max with age or does a slower max heart rate pose as a bit of an impediment?
@heatherfell5914 жыл бұрын
It's a representation of your current fitness so if you can get fitter then there's no reason you can't improve your VO2
@aLamgo.3 жыл бұрын
How about vo2max in apple watch ? Does it accurate ?
@ricf9592 Жыл бұрын
I'm 62 years old. VO2 max currently 78.0. It's been as high as 84.0. I ride 4 Watts/kg in HR Zone 2. Just did 3 Watts/kg for twenty minutes, Av HR 101 bpm.
@cassandramartin-smith3354 Жыл бұрын
what was the polar watch that was used in this video i want one
@gagioye35044 жыл бұрын
What are VO2max values (ml/kgBW/min) corresponding to (very) poor, fair, good and excellent aerobic fitness?
@jasperdaschot4584 жыл бұрын
how can my new polar decide what my vo2 max is. It said it was 61 wich is very good. Is it so high and maybe inaccurate because it's new and not used to me or because of my young age (16). I don't understand how they can calculate it by just you HR
@af92433 жыл бұрын
If I used my heart rate monitor at rest to find my V02 number, can I use that number without an actual running pace to figure out what my paces SHOULD be?
@The_Drifter_133 жыл бұрын
For everyone who came here to brag, mine is 31. Hope you feel better about yourself now.
@ruthforsey39403 жыл бұрын
I’m bragging about a Vo2 max of 35 acc to my Garmin. I am 65 yrs old. But sadly I still struggle on hills when running. Can someone help me?
@limwowo59022 жыл бұрын
Mine is 50 and I am woman
@ulfeliasson54134 жыл бұрын
I have VO2-max of 57 and I can't for the life of me run a marathon faster than 3:50 h. It is not possible for me to train much harder than I do. I should run it in 2:50 h instead. It sucks to suck!
@garvinralph31634 жыл бұрын
Thanks for making VO2 Max interesting lol
@MrCamerononicus2 жыл бұрын
So what is a training zone?
@rogerdodger88132 жыл бұрын
So what's the average for non athletes , just those walking and doing everyday things??
@sinancetinkaya4 жыл бұрын
Where's yours Marc? 🙂
@andretim752 жыл бұрын
another way to find it out : do the cooper test. Costs you nothing but 12 min of running as you can do for 12 min
@vilhosiviranta4 жыл бұрын
My VO2 max is 59 which I assume is quite good. I did not expect my VO2 max to be that good😅
@nrb52 жыл бұрын
At what % of hr max is vo2 max typically seen
@SubtleForces4 жыл бұрын
How do you translate that Vo2 Max figure into training zones?
@markthrelfall35774 жыл бұрын
Ralph Stoever using your heart rate from the test, that matches with that point on the vo2. Obviously a lot of watches won’t give you this detail. Instead you can simply use your max heart rate from the vo2 max test or other activity, as you normally would. In that case the Vo2 max would simply be a performance marker
@SubtleForces4 жыл бұрын
@@markthrelfall3577 Thanks Mark, it's very appreciated! It looks like a device limitation in my case. I'll try to grab my experienced Ironman colleague and have a chat about it. It might also help shed some light on the effects of my zone 2 training.
@leeedwards37834 жыл бұрын
Hi, Thanks for the great video. I have the vantage v and just did this test but still a bit confused as to how to get the zones from the chart with regards to the heart rate at vo2 max. Sorry, I am a little simple
@AlexG-wk3nh3 жыл бұрын
why are the zone percentages of HR different here?
@BanditPharmD4 жыл бұрын
Should you have done the fitness test on the watch first? His HRV is likely effected by the earlier run.
@billythekidnax4 жыл бұрын
Question: if you take a cyclist with 90 vo2max, a skier with also 90 Vo2max and a runner with 70 vo2max, put all of them on tredmill (not simultaneously of course)...I mean the oxygen consumption is oxygen consumption.. How would this test work?
@asnark71152 жыл бұрын
The runner would consume less while going faster. Don't know who's VO2M would be lower, though.
@michaelcorcoran39423 жыл бұрын
So it was all an elaborate ad for POLAR. I see.
@greybeardedbard4 жыл бұрын
Has Frasier gone back and retested his watch base VO2 after returning to a resting state?
@mjclaudianava53973 жыл бұрын
What's the criteria for terminating the test ?
@bentomio3 жыл бұрын
What is Mark's Vo2 max?
@fraserhiggins58244 жыл бұрын
Ton eh mon💪
@DarthBane-zf8wv4 жыл бұрын
My VO2 Max is 75.5. I do Soccer refereeing for college games and jog multiple days a week. Max Heart rate of 199 and 23 years old.
@zieluch4 жыл бұрын
what is the benefit of using such short protocol increasing speed evey 1min. I read somewhere that in order to stabilise lactate its better to stay on the speed at least for 3 min. Lactate is very individual but maximum 7.7 seems to be very very low. I not an expert but such short test seems to be not too accurate.
@ericviana88934 жыл бұрын
Its because they wanted to have their VO2max as their primary measure. In a perfect world VO2max tests should end in 9-12 minutes as to have the cardiopulmonary system be the reason for test termination, not muscular fatigue or shortage of energy substrates. A lactate of 7.7mmol/L is relatively low, but also consider the vast majority of the energy required for the VO2max test would have been produced aerobically, which produces minimal lactate. Now if they were to do a Wingate or Quebec test which examine anaerobic power and capacity, respectively, their lactate may be as high as 20mmol/L or exceed the measurement capabilities of the lactate analyzer.
@kacperwitowski59404 жыл бұрын
It is an expensive lab test for me but maybe for a few years I will have money that did VO2 Max test but now I will try to train a lot maybe when I do test I was very surprised result of my training
@jokuheppu39204 жыл бұрын
It's like 100-150 euros probably? So it shouldn't break the bank, since you don't need to do it often.
@valtrain14 жыл бұрын
The point of this test (Vo2max) it isn’t only to give you a number, but to find your Anaerobic threshold(AT) that is the most important, and with this information to create your training program. If you follow the guidelines from maximal VO2 test you will be surprise with you from the results.
@kevinlacy65324 жыл бұрын
Awesome video! Thank you
@intexmidate83743 жыл бұрын
Ok
@richardcollins5864 жыл бұрын
38 for me, Garmin says it’s fair.
@pegasusairborne29784 жыл бұрын
Is this the only way to work out your VO2 max? At a lab?
@cameron3383 жыл бұрын
You can perform the beep test on yourself. The beep test is pretty reliable
@RussiasSufferingInUkraine4 жыл бұрын
My VO2Max is 64 from a Polar Vantage V. Chuffed with that. Three years of ultra marathons.
@normanzielke61084 жыл бұрын
How much does your VO2 max differ between different disciplines? I did recently a VO2max test an ergometer, can I use these data to determine my zones for running? I don't think so, but it should still be more accurate than the algorithm on my watch.
@Jon-lf2dj4 жыл бұрын
VO2 is typically higher running than biking, though the amount varies by individual; so yes it's sport-specific. XC skiers typically register even higher VO2max numbers because more muscle groups are used. Similar to the running treadmill test, on a stationary bike/smart trainer you can do an increasing load test to failure and get your VO2max. Programs like Zwift, TrainerRoad, etc. even have this as a pre-programmed workout you can do. I use a Garmin, and it actually gives me different VO2max estimates for biking and running.
@cyclecoachcyclecoachcom80714 жыл бұрын
@@Jon-lf2dj VO2max varies across exercise modality and across which sport is your main one. For e.g., while it's fairly common knowledge that non-cyclists will score highest in running VO2max, a trained cyclist will score 100 - 105% of running VO2max, see Astrand and Rodahl, 1986. Additionally, even when asked to do extra work when for e.g. doing hand cranking while riding an ergometer VO2max doesn't increase further.
@VladiDeVasca4 жыл бұрын
I have only 53, at the time ...
@mairowen21074 жыл бұрын
Measured VO2 max on Garmin Vivoactive 3 and over the last four months it has decreased from 46 to 41 but with no let up in intensity of training. Any ideas why this might be?
@matsholstaandahl46154 жыл бұрын
Great video! But 7mmol/l lactate is pretty low after a vo2max test?
@DarthBane-zf8wv4 жыл бұрын
Its part mental and part genetic but thats not terrible.
@matsholstaandahl46154 жыл бұрын
DarthBane1024 not terrible, just personally never seen anything below 9mmol/l which is why i commented. And I completly agree on the genetic point!
@mikkihintikka72733 жыл бұрын
how long have you been doing that training? amazing low heart rates!!!
@limwowo59022 жыл бұрын
45 - 54 is good. Mine is 56-65 I am. Woman
@mikkihintikka72732 жыл бұрын
@@limwowo5902 thanks thanks i knew the first part.
@오수현-r4s4 жыл бұрын
메지온 유데나필 vo2 max
@jmyyer4 жыл бұрын
Would have been interesting to ask the lab guys what they think of the method used by the watch
@wrxzboost4 жыл бұрын
scientist: "well - technology is getting much better, but it's still not the same as a lab test. our figures are exact, controlled and provide more information than a watch - plus you get printouts to put on your fridge."
@Jon-lf2dj4 жыл бұрын
Polar is a "channel partner" for GTN (good of GTN to call this out), so this video is really about promoting the VO2max feature on their watches.
@Jon-lf2dj4 жыл бұрын
I also noticed FC was wearing his Polar during the lab test, so the watch had very recent data from that effort to consider in the calculation. I wonder what it would have read is he did the watch test before the lab test. That being said, I have a Garmin and its VO2max estimate for me is within 2-3% (it's a passive calculation from the data it get from me wearing the watch, not a specific test).
@markthrelfall35774 жыл бұрын
Hat Tip good spot. Just to be clear, it wasn’t recording during the test, as we didn’t want it interfering with the heart rate monitor that was being recorded by the lab machines
@Jon-lf2dj4 жыл бұрын
@@markthrelfall3577 Good to know. I've also found the calcs based on training data to be within a couple % of results from dedicated tests (for my n=1).
@jacob73683 жыл бұрын
who else is here because of school :]
@nortonkelly84604 жыл бұрын
lol according to my Garmin, my V02 manx has always being poor and has got worse despite running only 5k at a struggle 12 month ago and now being able to run 10k?
@Chloe-iq7-help3 жыл бұрын
Watching this, in my hotboxed room, during nz lockdown, watching my vo2 max gradually decline over the weeks of lockdown, also a women and like damn I have to fight biology a bit here 🤣😂😭
@asnark71152 жыл бұрын
"In theory"? It's literally the measure of an athlete's metaphorical "heart"; as opposed to the literal measurement taken from ejection measurements, lolol..
@pedroribeiro56454 жыл бұрын
Mine is 82.1, I do Triathlon obvious
@sorinmitrea51384 жыл бұрын
Great... Congrats!
@Therradican4 жыл бұрын
What is the watch you use and where to buy?
@heatherfell5914 жыл бұрын
It's a Polar Vantage V
@gilbertrivera86824 жыл бұрын
After you know your number, what does the zone mean?
@heatherfell5914 жыл бұрын
If you are following a training plan it will often tell you what zone you should be working in for what sessions.
@mackenzieusher8025 Жыл бұрын
@@heatherfell591 It still isn't super clear. Isn't Zone 5 basically going all out? People with a low VO2 Max should still go all out at times.