What is Anglicanism? - Bishop Ray Sutton

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[@VictorianChinese1860]

In Chinese, Anglicanism is 聖公會 which means Holy (聖）Catholic (公）Church (會）

[@edge-rps]

It's nice to hear about Anglicanism from different Angl, I had to do it.

[@jkproluigi7473]

VIA MEDIA!

[@youknowmyname5695]

Does Reformed Anglicanism mean Anglicanism that's been reformed, meaning Protestant through the 39 Articles? or Does "Reformed" refer to Reformed Theology, meaning a Presbyterian / Calvinist version of Anglicanism?

[@A.J.906]

It's Reformed Catholicism. Anglicans are a spectrum of Calvinist/Low-church Puritans to Catholic/High-church Anglo-Catholics. The common ground between Reformed ideas and Catholicism is Anglicanism.

[@justokproductions222]

Bishop Ray!!!

[@That_Appl3_Lady]

Can the creator post the link to this original video please. I would like to see what else he may have said. He's my bishop as well. Thank you in advance.

[@Young_Anglican]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/hqXcf2Otqc6CaLcsi=-Xjdp_C7wi2Z1lES

[@That_Appl3_Lady]

Thank you so much! ​@@Young_Anglican

[@That_Appl3_Lady]

​@@Young_Anglicandang, it says video unavailable

[@Young_Anglican]

@@That_Appl3_Lady that's unfortunate! I can click on it just fine

[@That_Appl3_Lady]

Could you shar3 with me the name of the channel, ill search and fund it​@@Young_Anglican

[@rajeshshetty4862]

What the point of your church if they don't hold o. To biblical teaching.

[@douglas136]

I think you need to follow the path of John Henry Newman

[@supdudehowsitgoing]

Newman would not have joined today’s RCC. Not a chance.

[@jeremiahong248]

​@@supdudehowsitgoingas if the Anglicanism isn't in a big mess now.

[@aseeker2109]

... and the 39 articles of the Anglican Church repudiate the Catholic Church. The Church of England is not reformed Catholic, the Church of England is heretical.

[@coffeehousedialogue5684]

Correction: They rejected certain *doctrines and practices* of the Roman church. The orders are still seen as valid. We just don't view the magisterium as infallible. That's the big difference in mindset. Your criticism only works if papal infallibility is correct.

[@aseeker2109]

​@@coffeehousedialogue5684You really need to do your homework.

[@coffeehousedialogue5684]

@@aseeker2109 Translation: "I got no argument, so I'll just act like I won without trying."

[@aseeker2109]

@@coffeehousedialogue5684 continue on with your delusions.

[@coffeehousedialogue5684]

@@aseeker2109 Says the guy that hasn't even rebutted anything I said?

[@lifematterspodcast]

It’s probably hard to define Anglicanism because it’s not unified or the True Church

[@Canadiana_Invicta]

He literally defined what Anglicanism is in the video. Work on your listening comprehension.

[@lifematterspodcast]

@@Canadiana_Invicta He states that Anglicanism is “amorphous” in the video. “Amorphous” means “lacking physical form or shape / or / lacking organization; formless”. The definition of “define” is “to make clear the outline or the form of; delineate”. So he literally claims that Anglicanism is the actual antonym of the word “define” which is why I say that Anglicanism is hard for him to define. He then attempts to define Anglicanism as “re-formed Catholicism”. Within the context of this video I cannot decipher any real definition of what “re-formed Catholicism”. I am just left to guess what he might mean by this. Maybe he defines it in the KZbin video this snippet was clipped from, but still, I am not ignorant of what Anglo-Catholicism is. Anglo-Catholicism can be defined as a group of Anglicans who identify with Catholicism, but are not in continuity with the Catholic Church. Their “Bishops” do not maintain Apostolic Succession and they hold to many heterodox beliefs; many that are in protest of the Catholic Church. Many Anglo-Catholics struggle to agree with one another and there is no actual clearly unified Anglican group that houses all Anglicans. There have been many schisms within schisms and such. The Catholic Church is a continuous Institution from Her founding by Jesus Christ that is unified on Faith & Morals. It is the most well defined Institution ever. Anglicanism on the other hand is very hard to define considering that there are many, many schisms within schisms. So if someone told me they were Anglican, I would have virtually no idea what they believed except that they held to King Henry’s unfortunate schism from the Catholic Church.

[@Canadiana_Invicta]

@@lifematterspodcast he said “when you have this amorphous kind of Anglicanism” he was clearly talking about the kind of Anglicanism he is not a part of. So he’s saying it’s the bad kind that is difficult to define, but that his kind has been consistent. Anglican’s also have bishops that maintain unbroken succession from the apostles. The only “break” occurred when the pope declared they weren’t bishops any more. However, due to the fact that the pope has been directly responsible for the great schism and the Protestant reformation through incompetent leadership, it’s ridiculous that you Catholics still believe he cannot be wrong (on matters of faith and blah blah blah) because he’s clearly been wrong many many times. Again, work on your listening comprehension, and also your critical thinking.

[@lifematterspodcast]

@@Canadiana_Invicta The break in Apostolic Succession happened when the “bishops” changed the form and matter of their ordinations. Because they did not have valid ordinations, their men did not become bishops. The Pope is Infallible on issues of Faith & Morals. If the Pope has “bad leadership” that does not change his status as the Pope and it does not mean that his pronouncements on faith & morals are somehow erroneous.

[@Canadiana_Invicta]

@@lifematterspodcast Ah yes, because they differed from Roman Catholic tradition. You know what other rites differ from Roman Catholic tradition? Eastern Orthodox! Yet they are schismatics while we are heretics (or departed brethren, depending on you you ask.) Why is this the case? And why does the pope have this authority to never be wrong on matters of faith and morals? Because Jesus said Peter was the rock on which he’d build his church. Seems like pretty shaky reasoning to me. Especially when you consider that there is historical doubt on whether the current Pope is actually the direct descendant of Peter through the office of the bishop of Rome.

[@user-qk1ye9qp3y]

Sorry, anglicanism is a heresy!

[@TexGaming]

False.

[@quickrat3348]

​@@TexGaming It is the biggest heresy, it gave the King of Pirates and Genocides the role of a Christian absolute leader.

[@Canadiana_Invicta]

It’s heresy because the pope said so! Why does the pope have the authority to do that? The pope said so! (Do you see the problem)

[@quickrat3348]

@@Canadiana_Invicta No Catholic said such a thing. It is a heresy becaude, for instance, it denies real presence in the Eucharist, it denies Apostolic Succession, it has a temporal monarch as supreme leader and in the later years it allowed women priesthood and homosexual unions. Anglicanism is therefore a heresy, yes. Indeed.

[@Canadiana_Invicta]

@@quickrat3348 Anglicans hold that the spiritual and heavenly presence of Christ is within the Eucharist. It does not deny apostolic succession, Anglicanism is the only Protestant denomination that has Apostolic succession. The temporal monarch is not the supreme leader of the Anglican communion, that’s only the Church of England. As for the last point, yes, and it must be restored. The early church in Corinth also had woman priests and homosexual unions. This was corrected. I believe Anglicanism can also be corrected. (Operation Reconquista)