What is Apple Log and How to Color Grade It

[@EvanSchneider]

Thanks for watching! Learn more about why I think the iPhone 15 Pro is such a big deal for filmmakers here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/bJa0g6OApLGUeNk

[@vide5033]

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[@The_human_Frank]

How do you get this clear voice sound?

[@Maxiixam20]

Do you have samples of the LOG footage that we can download and play around with in Resolve?

[@BTMovieSecondChannel]

The colors in these log footage look amazing! The shots also look way less oversharpened and ‘gritty’. The overal feeling reminds me of my X-H2S, minus the bigger DOF. Finally iPhone footage looks like a really valuable B-cam or A-cam for social media :).

[@EvanSchneider]

Yup, I'm planning on using it as a b-cam for my X-H2s as well! Super stoked.

[@XuXuan]

thank you so much，you are the only creator who actually tell me the difference between HDR video and log video

[@snehan2976]

Just wanted to say I bought and used your LUTs, and they're perfect. After weeks of struggling to color grade (or even figure out how it works), this is a lifesaver. P.S. I only learned how to edit using a professional software a few weeks ago, so you can imagine how overwhelming this has been. I'm trying to build my own social org, and simplifying any part of it is HUGE. Thanks again!

[@snehan2976]

Colour correct & colour grade *

[@EvanSchneider]

That’s great to hear! Glad they’ve helped you out!

[@AppleNowYT]

This is by far my most favorite feature on the iPhone because it has improved the extra sharpeness and looks much more filmic and cinematic over the standard video mode

[@EvanSchneider]

It's incredible!

[@codyandvictoria]

"now you may think the normal HDR video mode looks better however... you are wrong." haha Stoked to see log on mobile devices :)

[@EvanSchneider]

hahaha I was pretty savage with that wasn't I. I'm stoked too!

[@dougmorato]

Great video! I was impressed by that studio footage shot with the iPhone. ProRes is definitely game changer, especially with apps such as Blackmagic camera.

[@EvanSchneider]

Thank you! Yes, I've been blown away! So excited to shoot tons of video on my iPhone now.

[@jmbaillard7015]

As an old school grandpa, I like film emulation plug-ins. Dehancer, for instance, does a wonderful job, ( and helps those who are not married to a top notch colorist to do the job ;-)

[@jc99_]

IMO prores log looks way better and cinematic than HDR mode

[@EvanSchneider]

100% agree

[@BrendanEvan]

Came here to say this

[@jordanshipley448]

That’s not an opinion #coldhardfacts

[@blackout1111]

So HDR is not comparable to LOG. It’s like comparing a color profile to a different resolution. They are two totally different tech for totally different reasons. Fitting a certain type of display format vs. recording more dynamic range. HDR is just a way to play “straight out of camera” footage that will display on a specific type of monitor without a transform. LOG is just to get more dynamic range.

[@CallMeRabbitzUSVI]

​@@blackout1111it is Prores HDR LOG

[@calvinatdrifterstudio8438]

recently I tried the buttery eterna lut for Apple log and it was amazing

[@EvanSchneider]

If you like the Buttery Apple Log LUTs, then you'll love mine even more 😉

[@AlecGalicia]

It's actually always better to overexpose log vs underexposing. You want to exposure as bright as possible without any significant clipping. When you over-expose and bring it back down in post, you'll get way cleaner shadows and less noise. The important thing here is avoiding clipping which, as you said, is lost information that can't be brought back in post. Noisy shadows is better than no information at all. But the best way to expose LOG if to expose just under clipping. The more "over-exposed" the cleaner the image will be once corrected in post

[@EvanSchneider]

Apple Log is quite clean even up to 1250 ISO (which is around the best ISO to shoot at for the most dynamic range according to Gerald Undone), so there’s not much need to overexpose according to your reasoning. It’s true that this method was a good practice for cameras in the past that recorded noisy 8-bit log formats, but we have much better technology today. I much prefer to expose roughly according to middle grey, or essentially “realistically”. Makes for a much better monitoring experience too. The ProRes422HQ 10-bit signal is more than capable of carrying the log encoded data without squishing it to one side. It’s really a balancing act of where you want to distribute your dynamic range more than anything. In short, I think it’s much riskier to ETTR and potentially blow out some highlights that are unrecoverable than to expose normally and maybe have to denoise some shadows in post if I wanted to push it brighter (which would be rare).

[@BTMovieSecondChannel]

I have also never liked exposing to the right. It makes color grading much more work (because you need to darken all images and differently). I much prefer exposing as close to the end result as possible, crushing shadows if needed and accepting a tiny bit of clipping if better for the overall image. It’s also better for keeping the colors consistent (brighter images tend to have more saturation).

[@halimrahman]

I have been using ETTR with iPhone 15 and on several occasions I had irrecoverable highlights area. So, this past few days I am trying not to use ETTR and a bit underexposing and it seems that it might work for me. In order to get the "almost" correct colour, I have added "Colour board > Edit exposure" in my workflow.

[@Deerob]

ETTR = expose to the right. Usually you overexpose LOG footage. Ofc right before clipping but with my real cameras I always shoot LOG and always overexpose (1-2 stops) and it looks amazing once graded plus, you don't get noisy shadows that make ya look like a beginner.

[@EvanSchneider]

That was especially useful when log was noisy and cameras were recording in 8-bit. But now, Apple Log records in 422 10-bit ProRes and has very low noise in normal lighting conditions. So I would not recommend shooting ETRR with this. You’ll get much better results and more flexibility if you expose middle grey properly (around 50%).

[@Deerob]

@@EvanSchneider Agree to disagree then. I’ve been told by several colorists to ETTR for 10bit LOG. Be it RED, Sony, canon, etc. they always ETTR. I’m shooting 10bit since years on all my cameras and I must agree with them, never got a cleaner image and grade since I’ve tried it for the first time. The proper exposure for middle grey also can’t be generalized like that to my understanding. Even within the same camera in different LOG formats it may already vary. ✌️

[@EvanSchneider]

@@Deerob very well then, we all have our own workflows and preferences. I'm a DP and colorist, so I know both sides of the process, and I shoot on RED, Arri, Sony, Fuji, Canon, etc and I prefer to expose regularly. Gives me a nicer time looking at the image on set, more balanced dynamic range and nicer highlights, plus a little grain is easily removed. Just wanted to give another perspective. Plus, if you're shooting in the native camera app, there are not enough tools to accurately ETTR like you're saying. So that forces you to use the Blackmagic Camera app. Not a bad thing, but just something to consider. Hope that's helpful.

[@EmadApple]

@@EvanSchneidercan you make a video for beginners how to shoot from a to zoom using the BM app. I rewatched your video many times but still have something missing either on how to expose and how to color correct in DR using your LUTs. I am referring to home studio for youtube. I like your video look and want to mimic the quality. Pls pls

[@6Eternal9]

been using LOG feature on my lgv30 for years, good to see companies started featuring LOG features in their phones :)

[@EvanSchneider]

It makes my iPhone incredibly useful now! They nailed it with their log profile.

[@jeisson_hernandez]

Thanks for the video! Could you make a comparison video of shooting ProRes 422 vs LT vs Proxy vs HQ vs H.265 on the black magic app for iPhone 15? Would be interesting to see the results and file sizes

[@EvanSchneider]

Definitely. In my testing, here are my results with the Blackmagic app codecs for 1 minute of footage. ProRes422HQ: 4.95 GB ProRes422LT: 1.25 GB H.265: 201.2 MB I haven't done in-depth testing between these 3 codecs, but viewing it on my monitor the three codecs actually look pretty comparable. The h.265 is also 4:2:0 10-bit which is not bad.

[@adamherman5859]

Thanks! comparison of these would be extremely useful as the file size difference is huge. Also comparing it with the H.265 LOG possible in the BM app? ☺☺🙏@@EvanSchneider

[@EvanSchneider]

@@adamherman5859 I'll keep that in mind! Make sure you subscribe so you know when I post them.

[@bladerealm124]

⁠for something like real estate videos where window highlight information is important with a lot of dynamic range between the dark interior and the bright windows, is there a significant difference in dynamic range between the three codecs? And when processing LOG, do you find it possible to get close to the iphone's default native HDR dynamic range? (Where it does an incredible job retaining highlights and pulling up shadows, to the point where it looks fake and beats out most mirror less cameras)

[@bradleyv0706]

I used your lut and it is absolutely amazing, keep on doing this work man!❤️

[@EvanSchneider]

Great to hear! Thanks for the support!

[@jaymills1720]

Love this just bought! Would you be up for an update video for noobs

[@EvanSchneider]

Yes wanting to make more videos this year about it!

[@jaymills1720]

@@EvanSchneider please!

[@Mhadyourfriend]

The thumbnail here is like a magnet 🧲

[@EvanSchneider]

haha thank you, felt pretty happy with this one

[@SamuelElkinsPhoto]

Looks killer dawg - nice work

[@EvanSchneider]

Thanks man, appreciate it

[@dry509]

Where does the Black Magic camera app fit in?

[@michang1228]

Just bought your Apple Log Luts and absolutely love them. So easy to color grade without the pinkish issue from the original Apple Lut (from their dev website). I am curious on the color space, in the instruction you said the Rec 2020 as the input is the must on FCPX and it worked well. For the Fuji Flog-2, do I also need to apply the same rule (input Rec 2020 output Rec 709)? I noticed if I selected both Rec 709 for both input/output, the footage becomes more "reddish".

[@EvanSchneider]

Thanks, glad you like them! Yes, you would do the same thing for the F-Log2 LUTs in FCP.

[@sunlit777]

in Final Cut just shift the colorwheels or any other adjustment to a position ABOVE the Custom LUT effect et voila! you can make adjustments BEFORE the LUT!

[@EvanSchneider]

Yes, that is what I recommend! I'm not sure if it was clear, but what I describe in the video is that if you use FCP's "Camera LUT" option, it is on the clip level and does not allow you to place any adjustments before this transformation. The only way to do it is to use the Custom LUT effect. At the time of making this video, I didn't realize the official Apple LUT was released, but it was only available to developers. It should be available to the public like all other camera manufacturers.

[@raphaelwhitney]

Please once editing is done… what’s the best format to export the video

[@JacobRDoty]

I purchased these and I gott say... worth every fkn penny. GREAT work man and thank you for offering this to us.

[@EvanSchneider]

Amazing, thank you man, means a lot to hear!

[@justadddirt]

Using these LuTs should I use timeline and output as rec 709 gamma 2.4 like you did here or because I’m on a Mac and apple should I used rec 709a for timeline and output same as timeline. What’s best ? I’m just using your apple conversion luts

[@vitaliit4997]

Hey Evan. I've bought your luts and they are amazing.Thank you you for that. Could you please advise a player for macos which allows to apply lut to view apple log videos on macbook with the lut applied?

[@MaximoJoshua]

Well, I tried to leave you the links to Apple's LUT and white paper, but KZbin removed it. It's in their developer tools under More Downloads. They released it Sept 22nd. Also, I would use Davinci Color Management, which is just one setting being changed, and takes care of all the CST stuff before you even start grading. It is good to start with the accurate image, and then apply creative choices over that solid base.

[@EvanSchneider]

Thanks, I actually just got it from someone today. I heard they said they would release it then, but I didn't know it would be under their developer tools only. I actually reverse engineered the profiles via the Resolve CST and built my grades for the LUTs from scratch. See one of the comments below for more info. The white paper and official LUT confirmed my personal findings. Working in a color managed mode has its advantages and disadvantages as well, and you have to manually tag the clips as Apple Log anyways. Personally, I generally prefer to work in a manual node pipeline because I feel it gives me more control. But sometimes if I'm in a hurry and have a mix of footage, I'll flip over to color managed and see if that saves me time.

[@MaximoJoshua]

@@EvanSchneider I didn't have to manually choose. It picked it up automatically. This is my personal opinion, but doing a scientific transform is exactly what I want the technical conversion to do. I want to make decisions about my footage once I am certain that this is the accurate starting image. I would prefer if I could buy your LUT's if they accepted as input DWG or ACEScct and outputted DWG or ACEScct. I want conversion to be scientific, and creative looks to be creative. If they are mixed together, I can't separate which is which. Again, just my opinion, and maybe those are useful for people who (for some reason) would work with color in FCP or Premiere. I prefer it to be like this: Apple Log -> Working Color Space -> Corrections -> Creative Look -> Delivery Conversion

[@yan2410]

i subscribe to this channel because of this video sir, thank you

[@scrow9]

As creator of one of the most viewed videos on Blackmagic's Camera app for IOS, could you do a video explaining how to focus a video shot in log format? From what I have been able to tell the focus assist tools/lines don't work in log mode even when the display lut option is on. Just by looking at the screen while filming in log mode it's really hard to tell what parts of the scene are in focus. I generally shoot with the 24mm iPhone 15 main lens.

[@EvanSchneider]

I would just use autofocus

[@JaroAtry]

iPhone HDR video looks just like video from a phone. ProRes log looks much more like a propper camera. But the fact that you can take a ProRes video and convert it to H264 so that it looks far better than the original H264 HDR from your phone means that the problem isn't the codec, but it's simply that the iPhone still can't do the post processing very well.

[@EvanSchneider]

Definitely. I would argue that the iPhone is doing the post processing on regular HDR footage TOO well. Like I said, the beauty of log is that we get full control of the image after we capture it.

[@forever__young]

Great explain!

[@vincentc8526]

Amazing! I NEED the luts. But why I can't get the 10% OFF?

[@EvanSchneider]

The 10% code is refreshed!

[@gregdirectorofphotography]

Your LUTs look great, but I went to purchase and saw I couldn’t buy them individually. I don’t need 60 LUTs, it would be nice to buy the ones I want instead of the whole lot. Either way, great job putting them together!

[@EvanSchneider]

Thanks for the feedback! I also offer a pack with just the base conversions and the pre-LUTs here: lutcompany.com/store/apple-prores-log-rec709-conversion-luts

[@gregdirectorofphotography]

@@EvanSchneider Cool, thanks!

[@ThisIsTechToday]

So good and helpful! The black magic camera app LUT thing surprised me so much lmaoo

[@EvanSchneider]

Thanks man! Yeah haha, hope they fix that soon

[@gregdirectorofphotography]

Does the official Rec709 apple LUT look okay outside of the BM app? I loaded it and immediately said “that’s garbage” without knowing there was a bug.

[@ThisIsTechToday]

@@gregdirectorofphotography yeah it’s fine normally

[@gregdirectorofphotography]

@@ThisIsTechToday Guess I’ll have to load it on my computer. I haven’t wanted to open my laptop since the strike happened haha, thanks for the info!

[@ThisIsTechToday]

@@gregdirectorofphotography you’re most welcome!

[@bladerealm124]

Can you give a quick rundown of which codecs you prefer for log in the Blackmagic app and why? Or your top 3?

[@EvanSchneider]

Definitely, I can make a video about it. In short, I would say my top are the following: 1. ProRes422HQ - Highest quality 2. h.265 - Very small file sizes with a small noticeable difference in quality 3. ProResLT - Best balance between file sizes and quality

[@BenvanBergennyc]

It appears that Blackmagic has a choice to record in Prores Log to Rec.709, not a separate Apple ProRes Log.

[@jakeyboy2929]

Is the blackmagic app the only iphone app that allows your to colour grade within the iphone and not export?

[@EvanSchneider]

Blackmagic Camera and Kino

[@dry509]

Thank you. Very informative. Was wondering about this?

[@5247charles]

Also why does your video have those sparkles ? It is very noticeable when you bring in images.

[@Daydreamingmoments]

can i also use log mode without having complicated video editing software?

[@fabipuello]

Awesome job man! This looks gooooood

[@EvanSchneider]

Thanks a ton!

[@joxelbeats1497]

to use the apple log function and film in 4k, is the 128 gb version sufficient or is it only available from 256 gb?

[@EvanSchneider]

If you’re recording short clips and stay on top of offloading them onto your computer, you should be good with 128. But 256 definitely gives more wiggle room.

[@thedigitalnoodle4021]

Hi Evan this vid was great but slightly too quick for me to understand using davinci resolve to edit the log footage. any chance for recommendations on what codec to shoot in when using black magic, just so i can save to sep folder. also these are more home video and what not. im not a pro but would like to shoot some nice footage that i can make the most of. Also may grab your lut packs once i understand how this all works. thanks again for the video.

[@justadddirt]

Is there anything wrong with baking in a LUT when recording on the black magic camera app ? For things like KZbin vlogging and stuff like that ?

[@EvanSchneider]

Nothing wrong with it, just depends on your workflow. Basically you’re trading off between not having to process your log footage and having more flexibility in post. One benefit is that you’ll see the final image in camera if you bake in the LUT.

[@Nogitsune_Yako]

Afyer many videos all I understood is that I need to practice. A lot.

[@VipulDK]

Wow! This is so informative. I have recently downloaded the Blackmagic Cam app on my iPhone 14 Pro Max. It looks very nice. I have never used LUTs and I'd like to know how I can install it in my Blackmagic Cam app on my iPhone. Is there a video or steps that you can share? Also, 4 App ProRes versions are in that app (422 HQ, 422, 422 LT and 422 Proxy). Which one should we use? Do you have LUTs for the Blackmagic Cam app for iPhone? Thank you so much for sharing your learning through this channel. This video is very helpful.

[@EvanSchneider]

Hi there, thanks for the question. Even though you can use the Blackmagic Camera app on previous iPhones, the Apple Log format is only available on the iPhone 15 Pro. These LUTs are designed specifically for Apple Log, so they won't work on the Blackmagic Camera app on previous generations. For general use, I'd recommend ProRes422. If you have a scene with a lot of detail and movement, ProRes422HQ may be better because it has a higher data rate than ProRes422. If you need to be more conservative with file sizes but want to maintain decent quality, ProRes422LT is great. I would probably avoid ProRes422 Proxy. Hope that helps!

[@VipulDK]

@@EvanSchneider Thank you for your response and explanation. This makes sense. I will stick with Blackmagic Cam app to record normal footage for now and use H.264 with $K or HD as needed. Thank you for providing details on ProRes options.

[@ELTEMOH]

I bought the LC Apple Log to Rec. 709… Do you have a video tutorial how to install it on FCPX? Thank you

[@EvanSchneider]

There's a PDF with instructions for FCP

[@ELTEMOH]

@@EvanSchneider thank you! I got it 😁

[@jordanshipley448]

Love it Evan. I'm going to get these lots. What recommendations for exposure do you have for Apple Log?

[@EvanSchneider]

I talk about this near the end of the video under “tips”. But generally I find the native camera app exposes pretty well. Maybe expose 1 stop under to save highlights. When in doubt, expose lower unless you’re shooting in low light, as it’s easy to bring up and relatively low noise.

[@jordanshipley448]

@@EvanSchneider ahh yes, I saw that, but I’ll take another look. I wasn’t sure if you knew the clipping points of the gamma.

[@dwylhq874]

Excellent overview of Log profile on IPhone 15 Pro/Max. Stoked to have found your channel. Subbed. ❤️

[@EvanSchneider]

Thanks so much!

[@johnstamw]

Will this work on my iPhone SE 2?

[@EvanSchneider]

Yes! You just have to completely disassemble it, put an A17 Pro chip inside, then duct tape it back up! Easy peasy

[@johnstamw]

@@EvanSchneider Tim Cook HATES HIM for this ONE simple TRICK

[@psoet]

Great info!🙏 Will your F-Log Rec.709 LUT work with Apple’s Log? I have your Fuji conversion LUT so I’m just curious if it’ll work with Apple..🧐

[@EvanSchneider]

Thanks! The only reason they might kind of work is because they both record in Rec.2020 colorspace. But the gamma curves are different, so I still highly recommend using the proper conversion LUTs for best results and the most shadow/highlight detail as well as middle grey exposure accuracy.

[@Vann71]

Thank you for exactly the info I was looking for! I used to do a lot of fun projects in high school and I’m familiar with Premiere.. but it’s been so long since then and some of this is new. I’d like to do more professional like videos for personal and business projects but I need more info and recommendations. What accessories do you recommend for recording with iPhone 15 pro?

[@EvanSchneider]

Nice! I love using Moment's gear. Their Mobile Filmmaker Cage is great, convenient, and allows you to attach a bunch of accessories like mics, handles, tripod mounts, and monitors.

[@TheBaboxer]

Hi Evan, thanks for the video and great LUTs, I just wanted to ask you how do you set the "Render Setting - Color space end Gamma" for proper export of the video. Thank you very much!!!

[@EvanSchneider]

Absolutely! Generally, for these LUTs, in your Project Settings under Color Management you should set your Colorspace and Gamma to Rec.709 Gamma 2.4. Then when you render, just leave your color space and gamma tags to "Same as Project".

[@justfindit]

My old Macbook doesn't get to upgrade to the latest FCPX so I am using Resolve to grade it now. But if I buy your LUTs, I can use older FCPX and just apply two LUTs like in your video to make it work as well?

[@EvanSchneider]

Yes that's correct. You can use my LUTs in older versions of FCP X as long as it has the "Custom LUT" effect. Then you would apply one of the LUTs to convert the footage. The other LUT you can apply above the conversion is one of the "Pre-LUTs", which helps you make small adjustments to the image like exposure and white balance. Or you could make your own adjustments using other tools of course.

[@MINDSPARK-u6e]

_I copied and paste all of my color grading nodes that I had on the ProRes log on to the H.265 standard HDR video, and it looked like I was just adding horrible filters of colors on the video, it was horrible._

[@Sir-Kay]

Ok, can i start using the apple log on my Iphone 14 pro max now? if yes, how?(Step by step) what to do or these whole thing is only reserved for the Iphone 15 & a phone I bought at the beginning of this year is already a dinosour?

[@EvanSchneider]

Only on the iPhone 15 Pro and 15 Pro Max. Theoretically they could have added it to the 14 Pro because it uses the same main camera sensor. But yeah, only on 15 Pro.

[@Sir-Kay]

@@EvanSchneider F^ck! So, any other walkaround? I mean, is there a way to convert the Iphone 14 pro footage shot using the Filmic pro LogV3 profile and make it look like apple log? maybe use a Color Space Transfer that can emulate that apple log look? if yes, what should the input color space & gamma be and output color space & gamma output values be cst nodes respectively?

[@EvanSchneider]

@@Sir-Kay Nope, no workarounds. I would argue Apple Log is not a "look", it's an encoding that allows for maximum flexibility and dynamic range. So converting from one log gamma to another is pointless in terms of gaining image quality. I really do not like Filmic Pro's Log profiles as they feel fake to me and still don't allow you to bypass the iPhone's internal tone mapping algorithms. If you're using an iPhone 14 Pro, I would recommend shooting with "Natural" on Filmic Pro, practice shooting and grading it and become a master with it instead of trying to fake it to Apple Log.

[@TheGURBI1]

Great video, thanks.

[@dibidibible_]

Can it also record via external SD card while shooting on the black magic app like it does on the normal camera app?

[@EvanSchneider]

Yes, the Blackmagic Camera app can record to an SSD. In the app, go to Settings, and under Media tap on "Save Clips to", then "Files", then hit back and browse to the attached Location of your SSD. It will then record straight to that location.

[@ayianarose2079]

Can you use the lots to? Premiere pro?😍

[@EvanSchneider]

Yes they are compatible with Premiere Pro

[@BradenYoungVideo]

This was an awesome video! Thank you for making this

[@EvanSchneider]

Yeah absolutely!

[@Hawa_Chapal]

Is there an Android app that can edit Prores videos? I don't have a pc to do the editing. Motioncam, an Android app, does Prores (true prores or not I don't know).

[@luckylotus11]

I needed this

[@bodombeachterror666]

I don't get it. Do I need one of your LUTs /which are amazing btw) when shooting in ProRes 422 HQ + Rec.709 in black magic app? Im new to this and I don't really know the difference (except the grey colored recordimg) between the Apple Log - HDR and Rec.709 in black magic app. But maybe my English is too bad for that...

[@EvanSchneider]

If you're shooting in the Blackmagic Camera app intending to use these LUTs, you would set the color space to Apple Log - HDR. If you're using these as monitoring LUTs, you would turn on "Display LUT", then select your LUT file. If you want it to burn the LUT into the footage, you would then turn on "Record LUT to Clip", and set the Color Space Tag to "Rec.709". You can use any codec you want. Generally, if I'm recording Apple Log I use ProRes422 HQ, and if I'm burning the LUT into the clip I use HEVC (H.265).

[@bodombeachterror666]

@@EvanSchneider Thx man!

[@danwinnie4129]

Would love to purchase! Is the 10% discount still available? Also a quick question, how do I apply Pre-LUTS in a FCPX workflow? Is it by placing multiple effect layers and stacking the LUTS in order? Thanks!

[@EvanSchneider]

Hi, try again now and the discount code should work! For FCP, yes, you would stack the Custom LUT effect multiple times. So the Pre-LUT would go on the top, then under that you would apply a base or creative Apple Log LUT.

[@danwinnie4129]

Thanks Evan! Just purchased the Apple Log and Sony S-Log3 LUT packs! Looking forward to trying them out!

[@TrollMeister_]

Do you have any LUTs for the Panasonic (Lumix) S1 ? I didn't see any on your site.

[@TheDomioli87]

Hi from italy, so which app you can advice me for make the colors directly with my phone? I don’t have one pc, thanks

[@EvanSchneider]

You can load these LUTs into LumaFusion to grade Apple Log footage. There’s also a free app called VideoLUT that works with single clips.

[@belmontania]

Fantastic Evan! Uff! I’ve been waiting for this :) You truly are a time saver, which is precious… I have a technical question about the phone, I’ll DM you and see if you can help. Now I’ll go and check your new product out… Oh, btw (just as a side note): I haven’t got the new iPhone yet. Luts first, the 15 Pro next. I’m prepared, you see ;)

[@EvanSchneider]

Absolutely! Thanks for the support. And I'll keep an eye out for your message.

[@SlavGuns]

The only issue I found with Blackmagic app is that it does not let you write to ssd

[@EvanSchneider]

It actually can! In the app, go to Settings, and under Media tap on "Save Clips to", then "Files", then hit back and browse to the attached Location of your SSD. It will then record straight to that location.

[@SlavGuns]

@@EvanSchneider wow nice, did not see it before. Looks like need to do that every time you plug it in. Unlike the Apple app

[@SlavGuns]

@@EvanSchneider thanks

[@EvanSchneider]

@@SlavGuns yeah unfortunately you have to keep setting it. Oh well.

[@Vatziubeuca]

can we have sample footage for testing ?

[@EvanSchneider]

Possibly in the future

[@marc72-diamondproduction97]

Is it possible proRes 4K log color grading in iPhone with iPhone Original App?

[@EvanSchneider]

No, not possible and I would strongly advise against it. You need an app that can import and apply LUTs, which there aren’t many great options. LumaFusion works but I don’t love their color management, there’s also an app called VideoLUT that works on single clips. You can also shoot with Filmic Pro and burn-in the LUT while you shoot.

[@sohrabansari2438]

can I acchive same effect with iphone 15 plus if I recorded with blackmangic app?

[@EvanSchneider]

Unfortunately not, Apple Log is the first true log encoding on iPhone and is only available on iPhone 15 Pro or later.

[@sunlit777]

so which colorspace is the apple log file in?

[@EvanSchneider]

Apple Log records in the wide gamut color space of Rec.2020

[@126productions8]

Brilliant explanation

[@EvanSchneider]

Thanks, glad it was helpful!

[@theorientearl]

Thanks for this 👏👏👏H.265 in Log? How’s the file size, relatively lower than LT? and does it retain the quality?

[@EvanSchneider]

I recorded 1 minute of footage in the Blackmagic cam app and these were the sizes: ProRes422HQ: 4.95 GB ProRes422LT: 1.25 GB H.265: 201.2 MB The quality is pretty comparable between the 3 and the h.265 is even 10-bit 4:2:0, which is definitely not bad.

[@synthsforbreakfast]

It’s not possible to shoot in H.265 with log. Log is only available for ProRes in the new iPhone Pros.

[@EvanSchneider]

@@synthsforbreakfast using the Blackmagic Camera app you have access to these other codecs

[@synthsforbreakfast]

@@EvanSchneider yes! Third party apps allow this

[@entropy_labs]

I love downtown Pasadena

[@EvanSchneider]

It’s my spot!

[@ts3098362]

Are these Apple Log LUTs works for Slog ? Or need to buy Slog package ? Thanks

[@EvanSchneider]

No, they’re specifically for Apple Log. S-Log3 uses a different log curve and also records in a different color space (S-Gamut3.Cine), so the transformation is different to Rec.709

[@mediaflmcreation]

6:27 Mulched BMPCC6k with mattbox technology lol

[@sharinghome9200]

I just bought your luts, but It did not work like your video. I also did the same what you do in this video. do I miss any setting? pls help me out.

[@EvanSchneider]

What do your results look like? Did you shoot in Apple log? There are many factors that could be addressed. Feel free to reply to your order email for better support. Thanks.

[@sharinghome9200]

@@EvanSchneider thanks pro, it got this. It's amazing

[@synthsforbreakfast]

Why Rec.2020 and not ACES? AFAIK iPhone 15 Pro's ProRes LOG captures in ACES color profile, or I'm wrong?

[@EvanSchneider]

ACES is a color management system. Rec.2020 is a wide gamut colorspace that the iPhone 15 Pro captures in.

[@synthsforbreakfast]

@@EvanSchneider ACES AP0 and AP1 within Davinci are color spaces. So, I have to differ with you. ACES has it’s own color profiles/spaces. So I guess the iPhone 15 Pro when set to ProRes log mode captures in one of the two ACES color spaces. When it’s set to standard HDR mode then it captures in Rec.2020. For what other reason Apple mentions ACES in the camera specifications? Please refer to the following link for more information on ACES: en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Academy_Color_Encoding_System#:~:text=infrastructure%20in%20general.-,ACES%20Color%20Spaces,spaces%2C%20and%20additional%20file%20protocols.

[@willpalmeer]

Can I do Tg is on iPhone 14pro?!

[@EvanSchneider]

Nope, 15 Pro only

[@thinkertobi]

Love your video❤❤❤

[@EvanSchneider]

Thank you!

[@turn1p]

Are there any good editing options on the phone itself(or an ipad) to grade log footage?

[@EvanSchneider]

I haven’t looked into it much. From what I’ve heard, CapCut is a good option and can import LUTs. But I’ll have to do more research.

[@MGTEKNS]

Apple does have a LUT for log footage. The thing is its only available for developers. Make a dev account or turn your account to a dev account and you'll see it as a download option. It's free.

[@MGTEKNS]

It has two files one is AppleLogToLin-v1.0.cube and the other is AppleLogToRec709-v1.0.cube

[@EvanSchneider]

At the time of shooting this video I had been looking for their official LUT but didn't realize it was for developers only. I still think this is a strange move, it should be available to the public like every other camera manufacturer.

[@MGTEKNS]

@@EvanSchneider I think they want devs to test and make better versions of their LUT as its V1 and its not great.

[@EvanSchneider]

@@MGTEKNS Well, that's basically what I did 😄

[@MGTEKNS]

The community will always find a way to make things better. Yeah you are one of the people making it better. Thanks! @@EvanSchneider

[@roobeshbalaji9282]

Hey. How do I import this h.265 footage into davinci on a windows machine. It's not showing up in the media pool and it seems to be a .mov file when I see in a folder on my computer. Whereas in the phone it is a .hevc file. Any info on this would be great!

[@REVIEWSONTHERUN]

Thanks for sharing it. ✌️

[@EvanSchneider]

Definitely!

[@dry509]

Do you recommend iphone 15 pro max over the pro?

[@EvanSchneider]

I'd go for the 15 Pro Max for the 5x lens

[@jayendrasinhzala5765]

Can we do this in 14 pro max ??

[@EvanSchneider]

Nope

[@mybetterfilms]

It’s a good step forward but can’t use an iPhone to make a short film until they let you use different lens 🤔 so it’s not ready to replace DSLR gear yet

[@EvanSchneider]

You could definitely make a short film with the built-in lenses on the phone. Good lenses are not a prerequisite to making a short film, but just another storytelling tool in your arsenal.

[@johansmolinski]

I'm new to this. Using Davinci Resolve 18.6 (free ed), in Color page, clicking the Effects up right corner, I can only see Library tab. Settings is greyed out. I guess this is where I'm supposed to set the color space and gamma thingies. Any idea why?

[@EvanSchneider]

In the Effects panel, make sure you have "Library" selected and then scroll down to the "Color Space Transform" effect. "Settings" is greyed out because you don't have an effect applied to your currently selected node. So you must drag and drop the Color Space Transform effect onto a node, and then the settings will appear for it. Hope that helps.

[@johansmolinski]

@@EvanSchneider Yes, thanks! That made it. :)

[@disakhno]

Bro why I don’t see Apple ProRes 4444 in my Blackmagic app? Maximum Apple ProRes 422 HQ 😢

[@EvanSchneider]

PR4444 is overkill in my opinion. 422HQ will yield great results.

[@disakhno]

@@EvanSchneider I agree. But why you have this options in app and i am not ?

[@HorrocksoniPhone]

@@disakhno they removed it from the app because it wasn't true 444 from what I understand

[@nikilragav]

What did you use to show the Keyboard shortcuts 5:41

[@EvanSchneider]

My screen recording software, Screenflick

[@Caleb-fv5fp]

Is there any way to do this on my iPhone?

[@EvanSchneider]

LumaFusion, but I don’t necessarily recommend it because it does not excel well with color management. You can shoot with these LUTs baked in using the Blackmagic Camera app though with excellent results

[@timog7358]

the footage looks amazing. too bad the files are huge

[@EvanSchneider]

Not if you use the Blackmagic Camera app and record in h.265

[@timog7358]

@@EvanSchneider thanks for the tip. but does it still apply the aggressive sharpening?

[@worldpassport4759]

WHERE CAN I DOWNLOAD THE APPLE LOG .. I CAN SEE IT IN DAVINCI WHEN I AM GOING TO COLOR SPACE TRANSFORM ????

[@EvanSchneider]

You need the iPhone 15 Pro to shoot Apple log

[@worldpassport4759]

@@EvanSchneider yes i have done it with my 15 pro max !! I insert my log footage into the davinci going to the trasform color space and i can not see the apple log so to transform it to the rec 709!

[@yusril-ihsanul-alim]

What minimum Iphone to achieve this apple log?

[@EvanSchneider]

iPhone 15 Pro/Pro Max

[@yusril-ihsanul-alim]

@@EvanSchneider 👌the latest iphone

[@limebulls]

What ND filters do you recommend?

[@EvanSchneider]

I use the Polar Pro Peter McKinnon VND's and the Moment VND's, like them both. PMVND is slightly better in my opinion.

[@limebulls]

@@EvanSchneider thank you! And with what equipment do you attach it to your iPhone 15? From what I’ve seen it’s for „normal“ cameras?

[@EvanSchneider]

@@limebullsah yes that’s right. So far I’ve always attached them to Moment lenses. But I think they might have an adapter to just attach it to their case.

[@limebulls]

@@EvanSchneider do you recommend 2-5 or 5-9 and „must edition“ or „signature edition“? So many options 🧐 I think the topic can fill a whole video

[@EvanSchneider]

@@limebulls haha yeah it's a huge topic. Lots of people have made videos on it too. First of all I would stay with "Signature Edition" because mist edition has a softening filter built-in. It's better to purchase a separate "mist" filter if you want to try out that look, like a Tiffen Black ProMist 3/4 or similar (that's what I use). 2-5 stops is great for overall usage and if you're just getting one, I would recommend that one. 6-9 is really useful if you want to shoot at a wide open aperture like f1.4-2.8 in outdoor conditions or bright environments where you don't have control of the lighting, and you want to keep your shutter at 180 degrees to maintain nice looking motion blur. If you don't care about motion blur or shutter speed, go with the 2-5. Hope that helps.

[@sharpsh00ter19]

Is there a way to edit on the phone ?

[@EvanSchneider]

CapCut supports LUTs

[@sharpsh00ter19]

@@EvanSchneider Thanks for the response.

[@GhostySkate]

How can I get a lut for log rec 2020, not rec 709?

[@EvanSchneider]

These LUTs convert Apple Log/Rec.2020 to Rec.709 Gamma 2.4

[@dry509]

What does lut stand for?

[@EvanSchneider]

Lookup Table

[@Bthefilmer]

good info.

[@EvanSchneider]

Thanks!

[@dreamwevr]

I have DaVinci resolve Apple log no luts how can I make my footage more cinematic the more simple way

[@EvanSchneider]

You could use a CST to transform from Apple Log/Rec.2020 to Rec.709, then use the curves tools to create a cinematic look. I'm not able to go into too much depth here but the basic premise is to pull your shadows cooler and your midtones and highlights slightly warmer for a basic cinematic style.

[@dreamwevr]

@@EvanSchneider thank you so much replying I will try it out I see don’t go crazy with mid times highlights experiment modestly but don’t be afraid to use them think I be able create a amazing cinematic look thank you again this is very appreciated I’m excited to try it have a great day!

[@stevensmartfilms]

premiere pro please 😌