What is Armageddon? And How Do Angels Fit in? with Charles Upton

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[@stevenman3880]

@newthinkingallowed dear uncle Jeff if you are reading this , this is MK here. I just want to let you know that I am not able to visit you in america I lost my phone and my normal means to contact you. I sad to tell you that something happened and I might be going away for quite some time. Just in case by the time I come back I might never see you or talk to you again. I just want to thank you for being with me all this years. I love you uncle Jeff and I promise to live a good life no matter what happens. I have been diagnosed with schizophrenia lately. I have hopes and I believe that I am getting better after treatment. So uncle Jeff thank you for being with us.

[@stevenman3880]

And every other new thinking allowed patron and guest.

[@frankieandtheflowers]

⁠​⁠​⁠@@stevenman3880 God bless you Mk

[@davidsillars3181]

Every interview with Charles on this channel has been a treasure. It's nearly morning here but I'm going to stay for this. Thank you both. Darn the racoons, and too many of my friends are facing cancer. Much love to Charles. And Geof sure. ❤

[@ovgu7137]

Charles Upton is so eloquent and intelligent. Great pleasure to listen to him.

[@KimberllyBeatrice]

Very worthy watching like all conversations with Charles Upton! ☺️

[@yossifice]

Can't describe my feelings listening to this wise call!

[@frankieandtheflowers]

Thank you so much to both of you for this enlightening interview. Had to keep “rewinding” not want to miss one gem 🙏🏽

[@chrisallard1819]

Amazing - as ever - and fantastic synchronicity just before the end….

[@JeffreyWillis800]

At about 33:00, it is amazing to hear a Muslim explain better than most Christians that the revelation in the Gospel is Jesus Christ. And yet so many worship the King James version words, or this versions of the gospel, etc.

[@ferndawg1111]

always a pleasure to hear charles upton.

[@tobiasfrehley4568]

I must admit a fair amount of trepidation upon hearing that the guest was an ex-beat poet turned muslim, but he has put those concerns to a rest. Thank you for a well-thought and executed interview. Much appreciated. ❤

[@mariehay979]

Thank you Charles zombies😊acropolis yes

[@deborahbayer5798]

Thank you for this conversation and for the opportunity to give back to this dedicated wisdom teacher through the GoFundMe link. Looking forward to reading his book on the "Greater Jihad." 🙏

[@mjones410]

Extremely educational, thank you Charles and of course Jeffrey 🙏

[@ferndawg1111]

Indeed, and this is my second time listening all the way through.

[@Jen-e-sis]

The real battle is between our own souls and our creator, will we choose the light or the darkness. It comes down to our own choice

[@kilyan6191]

Why not booth ?

[@MaryKingsley-py4js]

After 57-years of conscious research, there's now an unwavering feeling that 'God' is not far off and observing, but is immediate and present in absolutely everything. Meaning this sense of 'God' is so incredibly vulnerable, it's my task here to protect 'Him.' For anyone who feels 'God' becomes visible in the forms of Nature, know that science has declared that Nature has the mentality of a 7-year-child. How cute is that?

[@albertocalvet]

Great clarity pouring through you, Charles. Salam alaykum!

[@prispros6875]

Grande entrevista!❤ Parabéns 👏👏👏👏

[@chrisallard1819]

Fantastic as ever - many thanks

[@deborahbayer5798]

Listen till the end...more than a few gems there. "...the bounty of God is just one heartbeat away." Thank you, gentlemen. 🙏🙇‍♀️ (Bring him back! Bring him back! :)

[@AdrianaRosalesAuthor]

Love your work!!

[@Jeremy-kl3ch]

Amazing as always! Thank you so much Charles and Jeffrey

[@chachenaki_kichenancha]

How is Charles doing ? I Know he had some health problems lately... I wish him all the best ,God bless.

[@emmetcraig828]

Hello from Ireland, I'd love to take him up on the gnostic thing also so glad he said higher self,i prefer innermost being amongst a few other things!😉

[@heyguysinternet]

I’m glad that NTA is continuing to conduct interviews with Mr. Upton. I find his kind of critically minded perennialism a substantial foil to the all-embracing “New Age” perennialism of late. Along these lines, I think an interview with Phil and Paul Collins, who have published some great work on the intersection of the paranormal and the religio-political, could be very interesting.

[@NewThinkingAllowed]

Phil and Paul Collins?

[@fineasfrog]

Perhaps we missed a chance when Charles said "I got in trouble" by not asking what was it that this was all about. What lead up to it? What allowed him to get out of the trouble? And what lesson did he learn from this experience.

[@WhirlpoolFarmer]

He also mentioned in a previous interview how he once fell heavily for gnosticism but was eventually able to extricate himself from its clutches. Alas, he never elaborated.

[@heyguysinternet]

“Gnosticism” is a term that’s wielded somewhat arbitrarily nowadays, but if I had to guess I’d say that Upton found no truth in the fundamental idea of Gnosticism that reality is a corrupted illusion and that earth is essentially a prison.

[@NanceH11]

Fascinating that Armageddon (Greek for hill of Megiddo in Hebrew) is located in Palestine. During excavations, the archaeologists discovered the remains of 26 cities in the 25 acres territory! This is an ancient site and many of these were found on top of each other.

[@theplastolithicpast8257]

What God wants, God gets. God help us all.

[@fineasfrog]

The Prophet being called "illiterate" can be seen to mean different things at different levels of being/consciousness. In one of the Sufi traditions they say that in essence it refers to the immaculate receptivity that allows him to give birth to the word of God as the Quran. This is analogous in the Christian tradition to be the pure condition or virginity of Mary that allowed her to give birth to the word as Jesus. The archangel Gabriel blew his breath into Mary at the moment of the annunciation. The breath carries the word. And the word was made flesh. Consider what Rumi says in the Discourses of Rumi p33: "The body is like Mary. Every one of us has a Jesus within him, but until the pangs manifest in us our Jesus (aka the Jesus of our being) is not born. If the pangs never come, then Jesus rejoins his origin by the same secret path by which came, leaving us bereft and without portion of him. (This passage points to the possibility of the second birth. It is said in the first birth man is baptised with water but in the second birth he is baptised by the Holy Spirit.)

[@bananas1220]

The greater jihad, so to speak, is implied in the lesser jihad. You will struggle spiritually if you go to war. For most, you'll struggle like you've never struggled before. There's nothing easy about war

[@anica5]

I think God created us to experience (& create further) cause (God)is all & can experience through its division parts ( us-duality; others). We, as little cells, are learning laws( like cause/ effect) upgrading self-consciousness. Evil has its purpose, as challenge, so we can choose ways & learn more, create more. We do have helpers, from higher & lower realms...Its our freedom to choose our direction. And learn effects/ consequences. Best way ( for me) is to be authentic, in tune with heart & mind; hard part is honesty with (me/one)self. This world of ours is our mirror. We should work on ourselves rather than wait for Divine intervention. Thanks! ❤

[@babar_proboscus]

WOW!

[@mattd8725]

I'm not into the game of assuming that when people talk about angels, they are talking about the images based on the Greek goddess Nike, which is used on greetings cards and Christmas trees. Although for William Blake they were like that.

[@sonyaparkin7841]

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[@JeffreyWillis800]

I keep hearing about "transhumanism" and how it has to be fought against. I don't want to be a transhuman, but I also don't understand the importance of fighting against it.

[@katkatkat88888]

Would you put your trust in a machine? Who's controlling the machine? Who programmed it?

[@TheIgnoramus]

Without a formalism of the dualism of religion in nature, this is of little use. Utility for survival and knowledge is primary. This is not that. Poetry and good feeling is all good. But the scales of nature don’t care about our ignorance. Qualia and quanta both. This is very lacking in the quanta perspective, but so is most who come on this channel. Taking a break.

[@spiralsun1]

Yeah, the first writing-Plato thought that the written language would be the end of thinking. 😊 Because he didn’t understand what symbolic thought and language was. Even technology is symbolic-knowing that removes the destruction from it because of the choices we will make knowing that. Technology is not even slightly “evil” any more than printing or writing is. Censorship is an unequivocal evil, however. And that today is more fearsome than any technology because it is a misinterpretation of life and ignorance of symbols. Like covering up the instruments of your airplane.

[@japplesin]

Everything is mind construct.

[@KipRode]

Here is some information about angels from an accomplished astral projector The Nature of Angels kzbin.info/www/bejne/nKbMdKp_ZdSFq7Msi=BH1WVubuJjAf71ZD Questions About My Angel Part 1 kzbin.info/www/bejne/hGKTc2OMh9B-j80si=6x7XENewjdiUrNdu Questions About My Angel Part 2 kzbin.info/www/bejne/a6PaiWxurLuKoq8si=8R5CGBVDG7bDoWkD

[@JeffreyWillis800]

I noticed the same thing when Trump was shot, people behind him just sat or stood there looking around. Nobody cleared out or at least took cover. It was like they were just waiting for something else to shock them out of their world a few more times before they would react.

[@ralphsmith8350]

...or like maybe they knew the script...

[@byzantium8851]

So God stands above humanity and its trials. He will not take sides. But he also sends avatars to save us. A confused and self contained logic. 15:29 minutes and I have better things to do.

[@anica5]

Yes, and no. He( she, it ) is not above us, its within us. Like, we are cells, but oraganism is Jeffrey (😊ha,ha). Jeffrey is aware of his tissues and cells, he can decide to go to surgery and remove its parts...cells? They are in its own universe, if they are neuro cells, or liver cells, or cancer cells...they are fighting their own battles and tasks...formed with limitations..when learn, they become immune cells in next fase/ level...or, smthng like that😊

[@moonfoxstudios3987]

Not my favourite guest - didn’t like his opinions, but what ever. It was interesting I suppose to hear such a different point of view from my own.

[@YANHAP1]

May your Qulb turn only to His Countenance and your Qutb orient to The Clear Horizon.

[@sethschmucker4238]

I will not be a transhumanist robot!

[@bunjijumper5345]

Why is someone who believes in sharia law being platformed?

[@NewThinkingAllowed]

Charles Upton is a Sufi, a scholar, and a poet.