What is Atheism?

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ReligionForBreakfast

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@ReligionForBreakfast
@ReligionForBreakfast 4 ай бұрын
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@CandorHispanus
@CandorHispanus 4 ай бұрын
No mention of Atheism+? "Organized Atheism" marginalized the straight white males around 2010. If you're an atheist you're expected to be feminist and pro-CRT, etc. Your research is a bit out of date...
@CandorHispanus
@CandorHispanus 4 ай бұрын
No mention of Atheism+? New Atheism doesn't exist anymore. Watch Armored Skeptic's recent video
@pfftnuffinpersonalkid1541
@pfftnuffinpersonalkid1541 4 ай бұрын
Possible video on civic religions? Is communism a religion? What about America's representation of founding fathers as demigod-like figures?
@Mhark127
@Mhark127 4 ай бұрын
Make a video about Jewish atheism and secularism.
@GEMSofGOD_com
@GEMSofGOD_com 4 ай бұрын
Let's simplify. Without God = without the concept of it / an idol to worship, vs using media such as words - of more educated men. Believing means more though. It means creating. One can propel the concept of God into creating human-like models of perception, which is a gigaproject of now. The time is 2024.
@JaelaOrdo
@JaelaOrdo 4 ай бұрын
“Atheism is a non-prophet organization.” - George Carlin
@Nero-Caesar
@Nero-Caesar 4 ай бұрын
That's so clever lol
@teehee4096
@teehee4096 4 ай бұрын
Can't top a pun like that!
@eliplayz22
@eliplayz22 4 ай бұрын
George Carlin is too edgy for my tastes, but that’s a based quote
@CAPSLOCKPUNDIT
@CAPSLOCKPUNDIT 4 ай бұрын
The joke lands, even after realizing just how not organized we are.
@blackshirtsocialist1457
@blackshirtsocialist1457 4 ай бұрын
​@@CAPSLOCKPUNDIT organization matter less when you have common idea of identification or some sort of spiritual organization within our mind that connect us in some way in another
@MultiWeb23
@MultiWeb23 4 ай бұрын
So... No Religion for Breakfast, I guess?
@mchparity
@mchparity 4 ай бұрын
I mean, breakfasts are rituals to an anthropologist. Can you really say anything for breakfast is not religious?
@ihikealone
@ihikealone 4 ай бұрын
Like intermittent fasting 😂
@cloudsofsunset7323
@cloudsofsunset7323 4 ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂😂 i guess
@bluevayero
@bluevayero 4 ай бұрын
As long as you keep in mind that god does not equal religion
@user-jq1mg2mz7o
@user-jq1mg2mz7o 4 ай бұрын
religion for supper
@skepticalcentral8795
@skepticalcentral8795 4 ай бұрын
As an "out" Atheist living in South Africa, this video is probably more respectful and helpful for Theists to understand us than 99% of videos covering the subject on KZbin. Can't wait for more episodes!
@dcmarvelcomicfans9458
@dcmarvelcomicfans9458 4 ай бұрын
Hi deist Unitarian Christian here this video wasn't really necessary for me because I have a better understanding of the atheist Community itself and understand that they're not a monolith.
@HomeByTheSeas
@HomeByTheSeas 4 ай бұрын
@@dcmarvelcomicfans9458 Yeah they made it just for you lol
@d.airhorn3702
@d.airhorn3702 4 ай бұрын
@@dcmarvelcomicfans9458 Unitarian Christian? Brother that's an oxymoron
@luxeayt6694
@luxeayt6694 4 ай бұрын
​@dcmarvelcomicfans9458 how can you be a deist christian? If god sent prophets to earth, he meddled in human affairs. That contradicts what deism is all about.
@skepticalcentral8795
@skepticalcentral8795 4 ай бұрын
​@@luxeayt6694 Maybe he's a Classical Theist like Aquinas? Classical Theism could be called Deistic Christianity I suppose, even of it's a bit of an oxymoron, I'm not sure. I'd like to know though!
@GeneticallyModifiedSkeptic
@GeneticallyModifiedSkeptic 4 ай бұрын
Oh heck (not hell) yeah. I’ve been eagerly awaiting this series. Great to see this given scholarly treatment rather than getting yet another opinion piece about it (from any side).
@goodman4966
@goodman4966 4 ай бұрын
Hey Skeptic good to see you there
@ConcerninglyWiseAlligator
@ConcerninglyWiseAlligator 4 ай бұрын
*Leo DiCaprio pointing at screen gif*
@SimonMorningstar-my2rd
@SimonMorningstar-my2rd 4 ай бұрын
Good to see ya, Drew! 🎉
@jasonGamesMaster
@jasonGamesMaster 4 ай бұрын
@@GeneticallyModifiedSkeptic hey, it's that guy!
@ZelphTheWebmancer
@ZelphTheWebmancer 4 ай бұрын
It's the man (not myth nor legend)!
@Famous_Athlete_Hashimoto
@Famous_Athlete_Hashimoto 4 ай бұрын
As an atheist who has always had a passion for learning about religions, I always appreciated the strictly anthropological approach you took in explaining different religious views. I am truly thrilled that you are now willing to explore irreligion and are keeping with that approach in order to help others understand our world view. I feel that one important factor that distinguishes atheists from each other is whether they apostatized from religion or not. Those who fall into that category, like myself, tend to have a more negative view of organized religion and engage in more atheist activism because of the factors that caused them to apostatize. In my case, it was my cousin coming out of the closet and then being ridiculed by certain family members that drove me away from Christianity and led me to question my beliefs
@hedgehog3180
@hedgehog3180 4 ай бұрын
You can also often see a difference in how long ago someone became an atheist. If you recently became an atheist you probably have a more negative view of religion since you have recent negative experiences.
@Fernando-ek8jp
@Fernando-ek8jp 4 ай бұрын
​@@hedgehog3180Not sure. My experiences with religion were positive growing up. My deconversion began due to theological reasons, now I'm more open to look at religion critically, which I was scared to do while I was religious. My view of religion was much more positive shortly after my deconversion. I agree more with the initial comment, that people who leave religion tend to have a more negative than those who never were religious because we can see how it impacted us and others.
@HasanRony-wv3xd
@HasanRony-wv3xd 3 ай бұрын
​@@hedgehog3180for all atheist answer that egg before hen or hen before egg who came first and how they exist suddenly, if they suddenly exist why not God exist
@GeckoHiker
@GeckoHiker 2 ай бұрын
I'm fortunate to have not been subjected to a religious upbringing. Hopefully I would have had the courage to become an apostate. As it is, my mind is mostly untainted by dogma.
@GeckoHiker
@GeckoHiker 2 ай бұрын
​@@HasanRony-wv3xdThe chicken came first because obviously G-d created evolution. As an atheist I see that clearly. Only a chicken can lay a chicken egg. If the first chicken hatched from a dinosaur egg didn't reproduce itself then it was never a viable chicken in the first place.
@stevenboelke6661
@stevenboelke6661 4 ай бұрын
If Prager-U can get their shitty videos approved for use in schools as educational material, Religion for Breakfast should be able to get some kind of public funding as well. The minimally biased, scholarly presentation of religion is a public good.
@bijtmntongaf
@bijtmntongaf 4 ай бұрын
ask yourself why theyre able to get that funding
@burningbronze7555
@burningbronze7555 4 ай бұрын
​@@bijtmntongafassholes who seek to make faith nothing more than chains and a beat stick.
@lipingrahman6648
@lipingrahman6648 3 ай бұрын
So public schools are now to be even more of a battleground over various superstitious thinking. As apposed to actual empirical thinking.
@MilitantAntiAtheism
@MilitantAntiAtheism 3 ай бұрын
What I have learned, after I _left_ the death cult of atheist religion, is that zero atheists have any clue about religion, nor of history, and, they do not even know anything about their own religion, atheist religion. Explain to us all here, According to atheist religion which rejects free will, Why was it _not_ evil when atheist mao zedong did away with 70 million people?
@amaedron_
@amaedron_ Ай бұрын
​@@bijtmntongaf Exactly. They want to keep children clueless
@teehee4096
@teehee4096 4 ай бұрын
I love this new focus on studying atheist worldviews! Lots of folks don't realize the diversity of views subsumed under this one word.
@ReligionForBreakfast
@ReligionForBreakfast 4 ай бұрын
Huge diversity. That one study identified three categories of atheism, but I'm sure there are more.
@LaputaScorefinger
@LaputaScorefinger 4 ай бұрын
​@@ReligionForBreakfastYou might have covered this in another video, but I'm kind of curious what the relevant scholars think "belief" consists of, in general. I often see people make a distinction between purported belief and "real" beliefs, but I'm honestly not sure how one would know what one "believes" since the thoughts and behaviors associated with belief seem to vary depending on the situation.
@williamboisdenghien2849
@williamboisdenghien2849 4 ай бұрын
It's interesting how ancient texts use atheism very differently. For examples some authors called Christians atheists because they denied the existence of Greco-Roman gods.
@jasonGamesMaster
@jasonGamesMaster 4 ай бұрын
@@williamboisdenghien2849 yep! Because Christians were weirdos (in the eyes of the Romans, but this would have applied to all ancient cultures) that not only didn't they follow the gods like all right thinking folks, but they denied they even existed! Lunacy! Plus they very vocally tried to sway others to their way of thinking
@xelaxander
@xelaxander 4 ай бұрын
@@ReligionForBreakfast Would be interesting to know what belief systems Atheists around the world draw their values from. From my POV you can’t really derive every belief from something known to be true. A bit of a survey here seems like an exercise well worth of a KZbin video.
@thebobbrom7176
@thebobbrom7176 4 ай бұрын
Got to be honest that's a great thumbnail
@adrianblake8876
@adrianblake8876 4 ай бұрын
BTW, according to the Judeo-Christian belief that produced the original artwork, that's the true way it should look like, according to the ten commandments...
@Conankun66YT
@Conankun66YT 4 ай бұрын
TEN episodes on atheism? Dr Henry, you spoil us. This atheist is looking forward to them.
@robz1800
@robz1800 4 ай бұрын
Right!!!
@cloudsofsunset7323
@cloudsofsunset7323 4 ай бұрын
He speaks of religion but it feels like most his audience is probably atheist
@Sxcheschka
@Sxcheschka 4 ай бұрын
@@cloudsofsunset7323 I'm a Hedonistic Zen Buddhist Absurdist Heathen Pagan Philosopher who has a pantheon of gods, goddesses, personal gods and goddesses I made up, spiritual entities, Tulpamancer, Agnostic individual who Laughs in the Face of Chaos and goes about their day while understanding a deeper level of meaning of what Up is Down, Down is Up, means.
@thorpeaaron1110
@thorpeaaron1110 4 ай бұрын
Same
@cloudsofsunset7323
@cloudsofsunset7323 4 ай бұрын
@@Sxcheschka 🤣okay diogenes, good for you!
@CommanderdMtllca
@CommanderdMtllca 4 ай бұрын
My religious studies professor assigned your videos as part of our class discussions. I had to describe because of your ability to explain very complex topics covering sociology, religion, politics, history, etc. You make me excited to learn these topics.
@mustafasoylemem2490
@mustafasoylemem2490 4 ай бұрын
I laughed the tumbnail picture
@Itsaplatypuse
@Itsaplatypuse 4 ай бұрын
Same)
@spyrofrost9158
@spyrofrost9158 4 ай бұрын
It is pretty clever
@mankind8088
@mankind8088 4 ай бұрын
NEED IT ON A T-SHIRT ASAP
@MossyMozart
@MossyMozart 4 ай бұрын
@@mankind8088 - I agree. An excellent graphic. And a t-shirt would fine.
@janpiorko3809
@janpiorko3809 4 ай бұрын
Remember, atheism isn’t necessarily antitheism.
@loreenzo2120
@loreenzo2120 4 ай бұрын
legit athiest probably wouldnt even mind if youre religious or not.
@nebulan
@nebulan 4 ай бұрын
​​@@loreenzo2120exactly. "I'll respect your decision to be religious if you redirect my decision not to be."
@The_Practical_Daydreamer
@The_Practical_Daydreamer 4 ай бұрын
It is in practice, in practice.
@jasonGamesMaster
@jasonGamesMaster 4 ай бұрын
​@@loreenzo2120 as a longtime atheist with many atheist friends, antitheism tends to be a stop along the path. More religious trauma, the deeper and more abiding the antitheism
@marcospatricio8283
@marcospatricio8283 4 ай бұрын
​@@loreenzo2120as a certified atheist, I think I can say it varies a lot. Some are ok with everything, some are ok but think it's kinda silly, some (like me) get real mad when a religion lacks internal consistency, some are anti-theistic, and some are downright envious of theists. I think the average lies in "religion is a comfort blanket, and it's kinda sad and/or cringe so many people need it, but I won't judge them by how they deal with their shit".
@thereallocke8065
@thereallocke8065 4 ай бұрын
This video makes me really happy seeing my existence as an atheist viewed scholarly as opposed to as part of a battle or just ignored. I remeber once sitting in a training that was talking about how to be inclusive of different faiths and it really really stuck me how discussion of people being non believers just never came up. And how a lot or times it just doesn't. Even in politically progressive spaces
@bartolomeothesatyr
@bartolomeothesatyr 4 ай бұрын
I concur, it's refreshing!
@edgarquintero2876
@edgarquintero2876 4 ай бұрын
Just because you think God doesn’t exist doesn’t mean God doesn’t exist. You can be a scholar studying the wrong thing a whole life time
@thereallocke8065
@thereallocke8065 4 ай бұрын
@@edgarquintero2876 you're missing the point. Whether God does or doesn't exist really doesn't matter to studying atheists as a group.
@mg-ew2xf
@mg-ew2xf 4 ай бұрын
@@edgarquintero2876 just because you think Allah doesn't exist doesn't mean Allah doesn't exist. You can be a scholar studying the wrong thing a whole life time.
@link99912
@link99912 4 ай бұрын
@@edgarquintero2876 I mean... sure. But Atheism is the null-hypothesis. It's a non-assumption. You shouldn't assume the Christian god exists without evidence, any more than you should believe Zoro-Aster, Guanyin, Hachimon, Zeus, the Buddha, Osiris, Izanagi/Izanami, Thor, Shida Matunda... etc., etc., etc. exist. Your god is one in a vast sea of gods theorized by countless civilizations, who all believed with 100% certainty they were right. The ironic thing is that you'll apply this same logic to basically everything in your life except god, because of course the religion you were taught as a child is the correct one. You don't believe in trolls, unicorns, or Santa Clause, because there's no evidence they exist, and that'd be silly, right? But God? Of course he exists! My parents told me so!
@punkykenickie2408
@punkykenickie2408 4 ай бұрын
commenting for engagement as a reward for the excellent thumbnail
@TechBearSeattle
@TechBearSeattle 4 ай бұрын
One thing you said in the second segment (starting around 3:10) reminded me of this famous quote from the early days of the internet: “I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours.” - Stephen Roberts
@aztecchica
@aztecchica 4 ай бұрын
I'm a Mexican-American woman and have been atheist for almost 10 years. My immediate family knows but not my extended family in Mexico. I faced harsh criticism from my immediate family and I can't imagine how my extended family.
@Jolomon
@Jolomon 2 ай бұрын
@@aztecchica If you don’t mind me asking, why did you become atheist? And what religion were you part of before?
@jessejarmon2100
@jessejarmon2100 Ай бұрын
@@Jolomon If I had to guess, then it's probably Catholicism, as that's the religious majority in Mexico last I checked.
@ages6592
@ages6592 4 ай бұрын
Not calling yourself Atheist could also be because it’s just the norm in the country you live in… like me living in the Nordic countries. Saying “I don’t believe in God” in Sweden is like saying “I don’t believe Santa brings all children around the world their Christmas gifts”.
@Elora445
@Elora445 4 ай бұрын
Yeah. Funnily enough, in my confirmation group, none of us were actually Christian. At best I would call some of us agnostics, but that was all. All were just going through it because of tradition. Very typical of Swedes. Even going through a very Christian ritual doesn't mean we see it as a serious religious thing. It's just tradition - something our siblings did, our parents, their parents and so on did.
@Jpz_38t
@Jpz_38t 3 ай бұрын
Lol some people from Malmö would like to disagree.
@slimvdv
@slimvdv 4 ай бұрын
I was not raised religious and expressing ones religion very much takes a back seat in my culture. Your channel has been a huge source of knowledge about religion for me. With understanding comes appreciation and a feeling of respect for the various convictions people hold. So glad I discovered your channel years ago Dr. Thank you!
@altontacoma
@altontacoma 4 ай бұрын
Atheist here, thank you for making this video and helping to break down stereotypes about us. As a parent, I can’t afford to support you on Patreon but I hope that those who can will.
@AntiAtheismIsUnstoppable
@AntiAtheismIsUnstoppable 3 ай бұрын
According to atheist religion which rejects free will, Why was it not evil when atheist mao did away with 70 million people?
@jasonGamesMaster
@jasonGamesMaster 4 ай бұрын
As an agnostic athiest, I always appreciate your videos, but this one especially
@Eyevou
@Eyevou 4 ай бұрын
"There are known-known and known-unknowns but also unknown-unknowns." Gin Rummy (The Boondocks) That is how I feel about this comment. lol
@jasonGamesMaster
@jasonGamesMaster 4 ай бұрын
@@Eyevou yeah, basically, lol
@digitaljanus
@digitaljanus 4 ай бұрын
@@Eyevou The character Gin Rummy is a parody of then Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld, who once said this at a press briefing during the Iraq War. Ed Wuncler III is likewise a parody of then president George W. Bush, and their debut episode "A Date With the Health Inspector" is an allegory for the Iraq War as a whole.
@Eyevou
@Eyevou 4 ай бұрын
@@digitaljanus Sounds like you took a look at the boondocks wiki. I know the context of the character but I thought it was a hilarious enough quote on its own to deal with them saying that they self describe as an "agnostic athiest".
@luis_sa78
@luis_sa78 4 ай бұрын
​@@EyevouDon't you know what the OP means with "agnostic atheist"? Gnosis relates to know, theist refers to belief. So, it's simply someone who doesn't KNOW if a god exists but believes that it doesn't.
@maxhatterschannel5140
@maxhatterschannel5140 4 ай бұрын
In Western europe it goes like this "Do you belive in God ?" "No" "Ah, ok" And then noone ever talks about is again.
@blazer9547
@blazer9547 4 ай бұрын
Also for deities
@johnharvey5412
@johnharvey5412 4 ай бұрын
I've heard that in Italy, it's more like: "You're Catholic, right?" "Of course!" "So you believe in God?" "Ehh... 🤷"
@mikewilliams6025
@mikewilliams6025 4 ай бұрын
This is why Western Europe is even more cultureless than the US anymore.
@inconfusion6611
@inconfusion6611 4 ай бұрын
@@FleurPillagerah yes. because it’s very common to go around asking: “ do you think your secular government is telling the truth??” People live normal lives and they do not love their government. Absolutely everyone I know trash talks to government. And no, they don’t believe everything it says. Do you even have contact with normal population? What on earth are you talking about? And no, people disagree with you politically does not mean that they love or trust the government.
@dudapirc7373
@dudapirc7373 4 ай бұрын
In Czechia it goes like this: „Do you believe in god” „Yes” „Whaaaat! For real? Did you inherit religion from your parents or something? Wait you *actually* believe it? You really go to church every week?”
@SidheKnight
@SidheKnight 4 ай бұрын
As a very agnostic atheist, I'm eagerly looking foward to this series.
@CountGremlin
@CountGremlin 4 ай бұрын
I'm an atheist cause my family was wayyy into church to the point where it controlled their lives. It took until my mid 20s to stop being "le edgy religious hater" atheist. I may not believe in god or religion, but it's nice to see it bring comfort to other people.
@nebulan
@nebulan 4 ай бұрын
It's understandable for the edgelord phase of those who experience hardship (or trauma) in their religion. I'm glad you've grown out of it tho.
@maksimfedoryak
@maksimfedoryak 4 ай бұрын
And them "other ppl" will vote for crazy wanna be dictator, because he represents their beliefs 🌝👉👈
@Neenerella333
@Neenerella333 4 ай бұрын
Though not my upbringing, it can be jarring to discover that your parents were lying to you. It makes you ask "What else were they lying about?" Especially as a teen,learning about the world from your peers as you age, than your parents.
@jlenhumphrey4933
@jlenhumphrey4933 4 ай бұрын
​@@Neenerella333it's less learning that they're lying to you and more like learning that they don't actually have it all figured out. And much of what they told you about the world is probably up in the air on what the actual truth is.
@larissabrglum3856
@larissabrglum3856 4 ай бұрын
I had a similar edgelord phase about my Lutheran upbringing
@DrMatthewPhilippsMD
@DrMatthewPhilippsMD 4 ай бұрын
I just noticed he has a Lego Pyramid of Giza on his shelf. Nice.
@geoffhoutman1557
@geoffhoutman1557 4 ай бұрын
Matching bonsai on the other side?
@eumaeus
@eumaeus 4 ай бұрын
As ever, great content. The tumbnail, 'image not found' is a brillant touch.
@angmlr007
@angmlr007 4 ай бұрын
Massive respect to you for doubling down on your commitment to educating the public about religion. Your channel fell off my feed for a while but the Kaaba video brought it back. Keep doing your amazing work!
@BarelloSmith
@BarelloSmith 4 ай бұрын
I never understood what "supernatural" is even supposed to mean. If it exists, it is natural so by definition something supernatural can not exist, because if it does exist it's no longer supernatural.
@hedgehog3180
@hedgehog3180 4 ай бұрын
My best understanding is that it's just a nicer way to say “doesn't exist” and I guess that's fine since it can be hard to say out loud.
@AlexRFightgames
@AlexRFightgames 4 ай бұрын
10:55 Thanks for the mention! I'm actually a member of Sunday Assembly, and would heartily recommend it for anybody who is a non-believer but likes the structure of having a community where you get together with people and listen to a talk and sing some songs together and have some coffee and bagels. It's nice! I spent a fair bit of my youth in the Methodist Church, but found that I was not a believer later in life. So like... you can still get together with pleasant people (arguably more pleasant!) and sing some songs and have a doughnut. That's Sunday Assembly!
@gottod6895
@gottod6895 4 ай бұрын
My family does not take my agnoctism seriously, even when my mother's tongue slipped as she told my aunt that I do not fast in Ramadans anymore, my aunt told her that it was only a phase that all young men go through. The issue here is that I am not taken seriously by anyone, and treated like an amoral untrustworthy person, since people here equate religiosity with good moral behavior, and in their minds stronger faith and religious convictions will always push you to be a moral person, whereas amorality is a direct cause of stowing away from the right path. This leads to many complicated and tension filled interactions, especially with my extended family, since I have managed to mend my relationship with my mother and siblings, but the unspoken rule here, Do not mention or ever give the vibe that you are an atheist, fast since it is her house. On psychological grounds, losing the delusion of divine providence that always guides us towards the best of outcomes is both frightening and liberating, it forces us to rely on ourselves exclusively without dulling our senses with metaphysically heavenly inspirations and help.
@Dutch_Vander_Linde_
@Dutch_Vander_Linde_ 3 ай бұрын
Apostasy is always tough. You aren't being killed for it at least.
@Thesadswan1
@Thesadswan1 29 күн бұрын
I need you to clarify what you’re complaining about. Do you want your mom to salute you for leaving Islam? Or do you expect the Muslim community to praise your decision? I am sorry to tell you this but the world doesn’t revolve around you, my guy. You chose this life stop complaining about how you’re not taken seriously! And the fact you disrespected Allah swt by denying his existence and want to gain respect for yourself from your Muslim family is beyond pathetic and unbelievable 💀and I love how your mom doesn’t want you to talk about atheism in the house shows me how embarrassed she is of her child 😭💀 you brought such shame to the family HAHAHA murtad
@ihikealone
@ihikealone 4 ай бұрын
I wish I felt comfortable identifying myself publicly as an atheist. Tons of people at my job are Catholic, and they'll tell you like it's no big deal. 😐
@whlewis9164
@whlewis9164 4 ай бұрын
It’s not you, it’s them. That awkward feeling is you mentally navigating how to tell your audience you don’t subscribe to any of their fictions.
@AntiAtheismIsUnstoppable
@AntiAtheismIsUnstoppable 3 ай бұрын
Atheist religion === pdfilia
@isiahs9312
@isiahs9312 3 ай бұрын
Don't hurt yourself. If you can be out it is a virtuous to be out, if you can't that is the situation you are in and you shouldn't feel bad
@jcgran8833
@jcgran8833 Ай бұрын
Just merely listening to your heart beat, you would know that Someone so great have created you. God exist and He loves you. Jesus love you! 😊
@isiahs9312
@isiahs9312 Ай бұрын
@@jcgran8833 prove it.
@drangelapuca
@drangelapuca 4 ай бұрын
This is such a great episode, Andrew! I was discussing Atheism with my Course members and have now sent them your video, as it brilliantly covers the research on the topic. You also reference Chris Cotter, a colleague of mine. We've both been committee members of the British Association for the Study of Religions. He's a dedicated scholar.
@jeremysmith4620
@jeremysmith4620 4 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for this. This was one of the few times I've ever experienced my belief/non-belief system treated with such care and veneration. Thank you for treating atheism, and more importantly atheists, in this manner. I am so excited for the channel receiving the grant to cover this topic over the next year! I've been a subscriber to the channel for years now because I, like quite a few other atheists I've met, carry an immense interest in religion and religious history. If there were any KZbin channel I could dream of taking on this topic for a year's worth of content, Religion for Breakfast is one of not even a handful that I know would treat the topic with reverence, honesty, and clarity. Thank you for what you do. As an atheist that has even lost a job due to my views, which I keep private unless asked, I know all too well how much discrimination atheists can suffer. That, combined with the lack of community support when facing those sorts of immense challenges, is something I would do anything for the next generation of atheists to never experience. I think your upcoming series can help play a part into bringing my wish that much closer to reality. I've never joined a Patreon before, but this is ambitious project combined with the respect you and the channel show for all the topics you cover is changing that fact today.
@Alverant
@Alverant 4 ай бұрын
You're not alone. I've been fired for being an Atheist too. They didn't come out and say it, they found other excuses. There was nothing I could do about it anyway since it was early in my career and I was scared of what suing would do to my future job opportunities.
@hedgehog3180
@hedgehog3180 4 ай бұрын
I think a lot of atheists have a scholarly interest in religion since it's a topic you were forced to confront at some point. Plus it's a lot easier to learn about different religions if you have no skin in the game so to say.
@TheJoker137
@TheJoker137 4 ай бұрын
I am a middle school world history teacher. I am committed to bringing my students a better world history education than I was given. I had too many history teachers unprepared to answer the questions that young inquisitive minds have about history and culture. You're videos have been INVALUABLE in not only expanding my knowledge but also presenting vast and complicated topics in a manner that is easy to understand but not insultingly dumbed down. You are one of the first youtube channels I reccomend to anyone interested in history and culture.
@CainJM17
@CainJM17 4 ай бұрын
You and your teaching is invaluable. I wish I could support financially but I want to thank you for all you do! This video was especially important to me and can’t express that enough!
@TheKraken5360
@TheKraken5360 4 ай бұрын
I have to say, this video is so much better than Useful Charts' recent video on atheism. He tried to make a family tree of atheism, and he more or less asserted that atheists are mostly secular humanists. He then made a diagram showing a number historical (mainly English speaking) secular organizations. There was none of the nuance that this video captured, or acknowledgment of the way that atheistic practices vary in in other cultures. This is what a nuanced video on the subject should be like. When it comes to religious topics, I think you're one of the best people on KZbin. I consistently enjoy watching the videos you release, even the less successful ones. I'm glad to hear you're doubling down!
@bobbyjackson4452
@bobbyjackson4452 4 ай бұрын
To me, an atheist, if one says they are atheist then they are. Even if said atheist might go to a place of worship and do something ritualistic like light a candle, they are still atheist. The atheist could be keeping a promise or request (as best as they can) to a beloved person or friend to do something like, "light a candle in the chapel on my birthday & say a little hello prayer." It's not done out of belief; it's done out of loyalty & love of another. The atheist isn't thinking of any diety during the ritual, they are thinking only of the loved one.
@nonchablunt
@nonchablunt 4 ай бұрын
I'm a kangaroo! 😂😂😂 greetings from a real antitheist.
@bobbyjackson4452
@bobbyjackson4452 4 ай бұрын
@@nonchablunt hey man, if you think yourself a kangaroo, go right ahead. It's nothing to me. :)
@gesudinazaret9259
@gesudinazaret9259 3 ай бұрын
@@nonchabluntrad I love kangaroos
@jonoc3729
@jonoc3729 3 ай бұрын
​@@bobbyjackson4452 Nah, if you believe in anything supernatural, youre not an atheist.
@crane8819
@crane8819 4 ай бұрын
Theist, atheist, agnostic, etc. it doesn't matter to me what people believe I just wish they would stop being antagonistic toward each other. We're all looking for the same things in life we just get there in different ways.
@tulpas93
@tulpas93 3 ай бұрын
Let us know when you come back from "wishland" - there's lots of work to do and what you hope for has a better chance of becoming a reality if you act instead of wishing! Try volunteering or donating to non profit groups that involve people of different identities working together! Sorry, what you said sounded a lot like "thoughts and prayers" which amounts to a lot of hot air. Good health to you!
@CirclesForever
@CirclesForever 4 ай бұрын
Another respectful video, I'm interested in this 10 part series. I'm surprised there's that much to talk about
@raulkaap
@raulkaap 4 ай бұрын
My 10-year old is struggling with these topics. I try to explain stuff to him as best as I can. These videos help.
@PR1NC345
@PR1NC345 4 ай бұрын
Why u teaching a ten year old tho
@YoLkE-22222
@YoLkE-22222 4 ай бұрын
​@PR1NC345 so they're aware of diffrent religions probably
@raulkaap
@raulkaap 4 ай бұрын
@@PR1NC345 My precocious son. He comes to me with questions about himself, reincarnation, justice and such. I want to be a father that can give him some fundamentals for figuring these things out.
@PR1NC345
@PR1NC345 4 ай бұрын
@YoLkE-22222 I completely agree but at 10 is really young I'd wait till late or after puberty when they actually start thinking of what life is, instead of when they care about Legos
@Davie-jx4rh
@Davie-jx4rh 4 ай бұрын
@@PR1NC345ten isn’t that young to try to understand religion, especially when most of the world is religious It’s simply interpersonal skills
@spinakker14
@spinakker14 4 ай бұрын
Hi Andrew, I've been following your videos for a while, and as an atheist who is interested in religions, I really enjoy them. This video is great as well, I've learned so much and I cannot wait for the other episodes
@justincheng5241
@justincheng5241 4 ай бұрын
"Secular humanist" was the term I remember in the 90s used for people who disbelieved in God, but that disbelief was part of an overall disbelief of the supernatural. Has that term fallen out of use?
@davesvens8697
@davesvens8697 4 ай бұрын
Secular humanism is more of a moral view that doesn't take into effect the idea of god. Basically humanism is the idea that morals derive from the idea that people are viewed as autonomic creatures, and therefore deserve rights.
@KasperKatje
@KasperKatje 4 ай бұрын
No. But the take is that atheist/atheism is solely the position on god claims: a lack of belief. Secular humanism is how you act, where you base your morals on etc.
@larissabrglum3856
@larissabrglum3856 4 ай бұрын
I remember hearing that term in church around 2008, can't say I've heard it much lately
@bartolomeothesatyr
@bartolomeothesatyr 4 ай бұрын
Secular humanist is still what I call myself when I'm asked what my religion is, because I find "atheist" an insufficient answer to the question. There have been some concerted efforts among certain segments of the American evangelical community to stigmatize secular humanism in the American public consciousness over these last couple of decades, so the term has somewhat fallen out of fashion, as quite a few Americans now ludicrously believe "secular humanist" means "secret Satanist." If there is a God, may She deliver us from Her fan club.
@nasonguy
@nasonguy 4 ай бұрын
It was alive and well at least in the early 2010’s. I remember expressing (as a devout evangelical christian) that my morals and world views were more closely aligned with Christian Humanism. Then being immediately warned that Christian Humanism was dangerously close to Secular Humanism and that I really need to reconsider how I was arrived at that conclusion, lol.
@emilyr8668
@emilyr8668 4 ай бұрын
I do think there is a tendency for dogmatic religions (like specifically christianity) to assume that all other forms of belief (or imagined belief) work exactly the way a dogmatic religion does. for instance the satanic panic purposed that there were people who would do literally christianity but opposite in order to worship satan which this is like... not a thing that happens. but in order to believe satanism is an actual threat they legitimize it through the language of church politic, for example. so it makes sense that athiesm is a term that kind of means everything and nothing in colloquial use. interesting episode!!
@varana
@varana 4 ай бұрын
I think this is also the reason why "New Atheism" has taken the form that it has. Basically all of its major proponents come from a Christian or at least monotheistic background, so they approach their atheism in a similar way: thinking mostly about "refuting" Christianity and the Christian concept of God, especially the evangelical brand of it, dealing with non-Western and non-theistic forms of religion as well as ritualistic religiosity mostly as an afterthought if at all. And using a similar style and drive of preaching as religious apologeticists. :D
@hedgehog3180
@hedgehog3180 4 ай бұрын
I think it's a fairly safe assumption that people tend to see the world through the lense they're familiar with and tend to view other groups as modifications on what they're familiar with rather than something wholly unique. To some degree this is inevitable since you have to start somewhere but you do need to be able to overcome this to truely understand other people.
@TurtleMarcus
@TurtleMarcus 2 ай бұрын
I'd like to mention the Norwegian Humanist Association (Norwegian: "Human-Etisk Forbund" or HEF), a Secular Humanist organization founded in 1956, in part to provide non-Christian and non-religious alternatives to Lutheran State Church rituals. Most famous of these is Confirmation. In Lutheranism, Confirmation is seen a affirmation of faith & Baptism when the child turns 15. So making a secular Confirmation for those who don't wish to affirm the Christian faith, and yet celebrate the passage into adulthood (at least symbolically), was seen as important. This is even available for those who are not members of HEF, as are their "name celebration" (secular alternative to infant Baptism), wedding, and burial rite. HEF has 160 000 members in a country of about 6 million people. While their sister organization in the US, the American Humanist Association, only has 34 000 members, in a country of 340 million people! Even more interstingly, there was a schism in the late '90s, which resulted in the creation of The Humanists (Norwegian: "Humanistene"). This group felt that HEF was too committed to atheism, and wanted to promote an "inclusive Humanism" open to both atheistic and non-atheistic Humanists.
@Mayhamsdead
@Mayhamsdead 4 ай бұрын
I have been treated poorly by all walks of life, but regardless of gender, color, age, status, etc. - I've never been treated like as if I was subhuman, and with such vitriol, until I met the devoutly religious. Not matter the denomination, they've always made sure to remind me that there's something "wrong" with me, all because I didn't share their beliefs. Just as a thought experiment, say you're talking with someone. Anyone. You've struck up quite the conversation. It seems to be going fine and you're excited for a potential new friend or partner. And at one point, they say: "Wait, you're not an atheist? You deserve to be tortured forever!" Can you picture it? And this is the best case scenario. I would never even fathom being so dismissive and cruel to people around me, for any reason. I'm willing to forgive, but I'll never forget those moments for as long as I live.
@Addicu
@Addicu 4 ай бұрын
It's so much easier to just say I'm a hardline secularist than to have to explain my identity crisis between atheism and agnostic.
@irkendragon
@irkendragon 4 ай бұрын
You can be both! Rules and boundaries are blurry and you can always move them.
@rainbowkrampus
@rainbowkrampus 4 ай бұрын
Most atheists are agnostic atheists. Though the really based ones recognize that there is a preponderance of evidence supporting the idea that gods are a man-made concept stemming from a few quirks of our cognition and the resulting social developments which resulted from those quirks.
@rdklkje13
@rdklkje13 4 ай бұрын
Bart Ehrman has a video here in which he talks about how he is (and became) an agnostic atheist.
@christyplantholt3981
@christyplantholt3981 4 ай бұрын
As a woman atheist living in a heavily Baptist region, I can tell you your description of the social stigma is spot on!
@PureZOOKS
@PureZOOKS 4 ай бұрын
This really was a good summary of how the different reactions are to the term. Though in my experience, most people who fit that final criteria of "atheist, but do not identify as such" tend to do one of the following: 1. they either have a misguided definition of the term, usually something like "the active believe that there is no god" or.. 2. They tend to identify as "agnostic" as some sort of "safe middle ground" from stating if they do or do not believe.
@wiandryadiwasistio2062
@wiandryadiwasistio2062 4 ай бұрын
i know an atheist who is/was a former muslim and decided to leave after making/made (idk if this person’s still alive or not but i’d use present tense anyway cuz why not) an ultimate decision to study all religions in the world and then decide which religion they’ll adopt, and they won’t stop even if it means they’ll die an atheist. they simply don’t _believe_ nor they adhere to dogmatic teachings of the concept of belief, knowing that religions, to quote them, mostly contradict each other and therefore they refuse to see other religions by the perspective of their former religion. last time we had touch, they identify themselves as a deist (god/gods created us but due to some reasons, we’re left to be bound by laws of physics/nature and what happened after death isn’t our business as we have a life to live and improving our sense of curiosity, empathy, and understanding). i missed them
@wiandryadiwasistio2062
@wiandryadiwasistio2062 4 ай бұрын
another point: atheism in some asian countries are frowned upon, as in people assume you think you are higher than god because ‘you don’t need god (for whatever reasons)’. even in other select countries, being an open/coming-out atheist can land you in jail (i’m not kidding) for blasphemy acts. and even in _other_ select countries, their people want atheists dead this person i referred above comes from said country
@adriancanham3101
@adriancanham3101 4 ай бұрын
You've really been posting a lot lately, I'm really glad to see it! You've really influenced my educational path and my focus on my degree, thank you for making these videos
@blanck2751
@blanck2751 4 ай бұрын
I love this channel, every time you upload I get excited to learn something new, thank you very much. I wish you all the best for you and your channel
@lakrids-pibe
@lakrids-pibe 4 ай бұрын
In my experience on the internet, I have met more people who mock and ridicule the stereotypical angry euphoric evangelical atheist than actual self-described atheists. The stigma against atheism is still very much alive. It's similar to vegans and vegetarian. If I had a dime for every time I've heard the same jokes about vegans being obnoxious and evangelical... as an occasional eater of dead animals, if find those "jokes" way more obnoxious than the actual vegans. _How do you know if you meet someone who is vegan? Don't worry, they'll tell you!_ It's like people feel that their values, their way of life, is being challenged , even threatened, by the mere existence of atheists. And vegans.
@thealmightyaku-4153
@thealmightyaku-4153 4 ай бұрын
Because their way of life _is_ being challenged and threatened (by Atheism, not by veganism...). The whole point of the Atheist movement was to bring about a greater secularity & get people to stop believing in religion. It was unfortunate that, since no one could adequately respond to the intellectual challenges posed by Atheism, out of the mouths of Dawkins & the like, they rounded on the stupidity of the young & immature ones. I don't think being 'polite' about it would have helped. Have a look at America right now: the biggest support base for Trump is Christian Evangelicals.
@jakecreecy9147
@jakecreecy9147 4 ай бұрын
In the beginning of this video he gives an example of "New Atheism" which was a wave of people all over the internet acting smug and belittling religious people behaving as if they're idiots. The backlash against this is what you're seeing now. Eventually people realized that the New Atheists were obnoxious and some of them ironically turning their nonreligiousness into a religion. Now they've been mocking the New Atheists for so long that they're beating a dead horse.
@IkeOkerekeNews
@IkeOkerekeNews 4 ай бұрын
​@@thealmightyaku-4153 Atheism in recent decades is far more interested in far-right politics, Islamophobia, and Western/white supramacy than any actual efforts to maintain or improve upon secularism.
@thealmightyaku-4153
@thealmightyaku-4153 4 ай бұрын
@@IkeOkerekeNews Atheism these days isn't interested in anything: the movement is long gone, destroyed from the inside by people like you.
@Shoreline-ex5sc
@Shoreline-ex5sc 4 ай бұрын
I think atheist are funny cause they think they’re on no side. While the devil was like YOU WERE THE EASIEST ONES I DIDNT EVEN HAVE TO TEMP YOU.
@roseguy
@roseguy 4 ай бұрын
As a Buddhist, your Buddhist video on atheism will be interesting to see.
@RT-jx9cp
@RT-jx9cp 4 ай бұрын
lets gooooo, here 30 seconds after posting! keep up the great work, man!
@silverharloe
@silverharloe 4 ай бұрын
Areligious Taoism is both godless and sometimes even Taoless - considering the Tao more as a philosophical point of reference than an existing entity (one might even say that the Tao that exists is not the true Tao)
@becketthor
@becketthor 4 ай бұрын
Is there any sort of living practice of areligious Taoism, or is it purely a western speculation?
@silverharloe
@silverharloe 4 ай бұрын
@@becketthor I don't know. I learned about Taoism from a Western author (The Tao is Silent by Raymond Smullyan) and he presented it as an areligious philosophical tradition. Was he right? I don't know. I don't particularly care - some of the best food comes from mixing cultures, and so do some of the best ideas. Religious Taoism with its various gods and goddesses doesn't appeal to me, but I feel I get a lot out of reading the Tao Te Ching anyway, and don't remember any gods or goddesses being in it.
@user-jq1mg2mz7o
@user-jq1mg2mz7o 4 ай бұрын
​@@becketthorliving somewhere with a chinese majority, I can say it's largely an academic category. All Taoists I know are mixed in with Chinese folk religion and Buddhism
@tantangpenn5496
@tantangpenn5496 4 ай бұрын
​@@silverharloe There's a philosophical part, from which theism derived. Let's keep in mind PanGu didn't CREATE the world but simply brought the world into Being.
@johnharvey5412
@johnharvey5412 4 ай бұрын
There are plenty of people, including me, who take moral lessons and inspiration from Daoist ideas, without believing in (all or any of) the supernatural aspects of it. I doubt most of them would describe themselves as Daoists, though.
@ButSeriouslyThough
@ButSeriouslyThough 4 ай бұрын
This will be an incredibly interesting series. A lot of Christians perceive everything else through a religious and Christian framework, and while that already turns other religions into a caricature of Christianity (for instance, understanding Islam as "well, their Jesus is Muhammad, and their Bible is the Quran, and their churches are mosques"), it especially turns atheism into some weird incomprehensible "religion" in the eyes of these Christians (I've even seen some extremely ignorant ones online say that atheists worship Darwin, or nature, or themselves...). So, I look forward to this series. It will be very interesting to see an analysis not of religion, but of non-religion, and to see how unlike one another the two are. I already find it terribly interesting you brought up the many different kinds of non-religion and of atheism there really are. Because of how pertinent this topic is, similar to "what is the Kaaba?", I hope this video series does great numbers too!
@CountJeffula
@CountJeffula 4 ай бұрын
Exceedingly closed minded. You see people like this all over the Midwest.
@timothypeterson4781
@timothypeterson4781 4 ай бұрын
I don't know any Christian that says "they're Jesus is Muhammad." This feels like a caricature.
@Alieth
@Alieth 4 ай бұрын
@@timothypeterson4781You’d be surprised then. Like the original commenter said, Christians tend to view other religions through their own Christian lens. So they then contrast and compare other religions with their own, which leads them to making parallels, such as between Jesus and Muhammad or the Bible and the Koran.
@Ariel.constante212
@Ariel.constante212 4 ай бұрын
​@@timothypeterson4781Many christians make these analogous comparisons. It's pretty common for christians to trace similarities and parallels with other religions and myths to try and validate their own as the "true religion". The most common example they use for this is the myth of flood.
@jaloniwilson
@jaloniwilson 4 ай бұрын
​@@Alieth this is true and I want to add that this is true for everyone. Even an atheist who is, lets say "ex Christian", may still view the whole of Christianity through whatever specific view of Christianity they had when they were a Christian. And they may still apply that particular Christian view to non Christian religion as well.
@samrevlej9331
@samrevlej9331 4 ай бұрын
I’ve identified as an agnostic atheist for years-I can’t be certain about the existence or non existence of divinity, but I’m heavily leaning toward the no. The distinctions put forward in the video are really interesting, because they highlight how non-religion is often misevaluated or misunderstood. The public hatred against atheists in the US really shows how deep religious stereotypes run there.
@JeffinBville
@JeffinBville 4 ай бұрын
I was raised in a religious Jewish environment. But when I became a teen I started asking questions and when I learned that the Jewish God was a Canaanite construct built on even older traditions, it all became clear to me: there is no thing such as a God. And, to this day, I cannot understand why people who do believe in a God will automatically ignore the proofs otherwise. And you can be sure I want, "In God We Trust" off our courthouse walls and gone from our currency. The SCOTUS was wrong when they ruled the reference to a God was universally accepted cultural norm. It is the belief of weak people who need a guiding hand to tell them what to do so they can go ahead and do it anyway.
@irkendragon
@irkendragon 4 ай бұрын
Seems I'm rare in that I probably fit in the "philosophical naturalism" atheism or agnostic-atheist category while also being a woman. Though I do fit the other categories of white and middle class. I didn't grow up reading anything from the "4 horseman" of new atheism, nor had any specific personal bad experiences with the church (though I certainly know other atheist friends who have), but since a young age I'd never felt drawn to or compelled by religion and/or god/gods. I certainly find it fascinating to learn about though, especially faiths/practices from other cultures hence loving this channel. I appreciate this video for being respectful, you definitely feel the cultural pressure around you to be a believer growing up, the stigma is real, it's definitely not something you tend to voluntarily share about yourself.
@mwbhomee2802
@mwbhomee2802 4 ай бұрын
Thank you for this. It was extremely interesting listening to you get into all the nitty gritty details of this subject. I appreciate the nuance and comprehensive detail you provided in this video.
@rebeccazegstroo6786
@rebeccazegstroo6786 4 ай бұрын
Keep up the good work. Your content is always informative and often fascinating. Issues around religion are often oversimplified. You offer real depth. Thanks.
@user-tn4ix6ir6z
@user-tn4ix6ir6z 4 ай бұрын
"either because they don't want to face stigma or because they want to present themselves in a certain light, social desirability bias may be why self-identified atheists are more likely to be white, male, and educated; because it may easier for them to adopt a socially stigmatized identity than someone from a more marginalized community" Thank you for opening my eyes to that, sincerely. -white male educated atheist
@hedgehog3180
@hedgehog3180 4 ай бұрын
Being trans this is something I've definitely noticed among queer people, while few are actually religious most also aren't willing to actively identify with atheism specifically because of the stigma around it and the bigotry of some prominent atheist figures.
@youcantata
@youcantata 4 ай бұрын
Atheist is default religious status in Northeast Asia, like Korea, Japan, and China. Most of Chinese and Japanese have no religious affiliation whatsoever. 60+% of South Koreans identify themselves as non religious. Having any religion or religious affiliation is special case, and mostly (less educated) elderlies. Chiana was largely atheist country throughout most of her history, well before going communist. Confucianism is essentially atheism. He explicitly excluded any supernatural being or afterlife, on basis of agnostic thinking, and prohibited worshiping or indulging on such subject (怪力亂神) for the "educated gentleman". Visiting shrine or worshiping ancestors are considered as social tradition or ethics like respecting their parents and seniors, not religion. They don't believe that misbehaving bad children will be punished by the spirits. State politics was secular. Unfortunate connotation of atheism and communism is quite recent in history. Atheism and atheist have flourished in NE Asia, well before birth of K. Marx or even Jesus.
@dansattah
@dansattah 4 ай бұрын
I hope that this aspect of atheism will be discussed further. Some years ago, I heard the rather interesting question "Is Shintoism atheist?" And the answer often boils down to the interpretation of "kami". Do you consider them as "gods" (theistic) or "spirits" (atheistic)?
@Ossian-dr1vr
@Ossian-dr1vr 4 ай бұрын
Japanese people don't view shintoism as a religion so ofcourse they see themselves as non religious
@obsidianjane4413
@obsidianjane4413 4 ай бұрын
That is very not true. You are retconning your modern social programming to past events and literally excluding ALL Asian belief systems as not-religion when they absolutely are and provide that function.
@Ossian-dr1vr
@Ossian-dr1vr 4 ай бұрын
In Japan shintoism is often not thought of as a religion, so it makes sense that they would view themselves as non religious, but it's not exactly "naturalism".
@tunguska2370
@tunguska2370 4 ай бұрын
​@@obsidianjane4413"social traditions or ethnic"
@Omnomnomabom
@Omnomnomabom 4 ай бұрын
Not sure if it's been addressed in a video already, but I'd be interested to see an overview of Unitarian Universalism
@MrCyclist
@MrCyclist 4 ай бұрын
This was a very good portrayal of Atheism. I will be waiting for the series. Well done. I just subscribed.
@Sezstu
@Sezstu 4 ай бұрын
I have always found the study of religion to be an interesting topic, though even as a child I was a non-believer. I saw the religions around me as the Greek myths of our culture (I was a precocious reader). I was shocked when I realized, in about the fifth grade, that people actually thought that stuff was true. Your channel is a favorite of mine as are atheist videos.
@jacktingey7886
@jacktingey7886 4 ай бұрын
I love the point about atheistic people and underrepresentation in atheist spaces of marginalized groups. I had never thought much about atheist Native Americans, but I would be very curious to hear about the experiences of atheists in other groups that traditionally aren't considered.
@2Sor2Fig
@2Sor2Fig 4 ай бұрын
Gotta say, being an atheist was not all sunshine and rainbows, but the trip has been more than worth it.😊
@brokenursa9986
@brokenursa9986 4 ай бұрын
As an atheist myself, I appreciate you taking the time to discuss this. Too often we only hear arguments from self-proclaimed atheists or from Christian or Muslim anti-atheists, so it will be good to have a more neutral perspective discuss our movement and beliefs (or lack thereof).
@BonnibelLecter
@BonnibelLecter 4 ай бұрын
Wow, a whole series! I'm excited. And as always, this was wonderfully respectful to the topic being discussed, but especially in a way I rarely see atheism talked about.
@KatelyBately
@KatelyBately 4 ай бұрын
Very interesting that the sociological perspective on women needing to be perceived as religious to be pious/demure. It definitely makes sense in context to how men especially see women, but is not something you really actively think about on that level.
@leuk2389
@leuk2389 4 ай бұрын
I would call myself a naturalist atheistic person, although i don't consider it as my identity. I did not think this video would be as interesting as it was! Very well done
@link99912
@link99912 4 ай бұрын
I don't really consider "not believing in a god" to be part of my identity any more than "not believing in the tooth fairy". If anything, I'd consider myself a rationalist.
@drbachimanchi
@drbachimanchi 4 ай бұрын
As a deeply spiritual atheist i follow your channel religiously..you helped me in my journey a lot along with lets talk religion philip...I wish you all the peace ✌️ and happiness all along your journey in this vast and wonderful cosmos on amoat of dust
@Hypothetical-Being
@Hypothetical-Being 4 ай бұрын
A spiritual atheist is an oxymoron
@EthanPineapple
@EthanPineapple 4 ай бұрын
@@Hypothetical-Being So long as his spirituality has no gods then it should be fine
@drachenfeIs
@drachenfeIs 4 ай бұрын
@@EthanPineapple spirits are just as fake as gods
@speedwagon1824
@speedwagon1824 4 ай бұрын
​@@drachenfeIsspirituality isn't literally about "spirits"
@speedwagon1824
@speedwagon1824 4 ай бұрын
​@@Hypothetical-Beingwatch the video
@manualdidact
@manualdidact 4 ай бұрын
As an atheist, I may have a bias toward like-minded people, but I've found that most other atheists I've encountered in person and online communities (those who have a position, at least) are methodological naturalists rather than purely philosophical naturalists, and are thus technically agnostic by definition. I think this is a distinction that Dawkins makes in his writing as well.
@user-tn4ix6ir6z
@user-tn4ix6ir6z 4 ай бұрын
This video is the first time in my 33 years of life that a Christian has sent me (an atheist) a video related to religion and I've truly appreciated it
@Droledecoco50
@Droledecoco50 4 ай бұрын
Hey, I've been following you at least since 2018, and I want to thank you for blessing KZbin with your awesome content! Bless you!
@sadunlap
@sadunlap 4 ай бұрын
Back in the Dinosaur-days of Google-plus (remember that, anyone?) I joined an athiest discussion group. One of the founders of the group explained that she was born in India and goes back there to visit family frequently and therefore had to remain anonymous for fear for her life.
@TheWipeout32
@TheWipeout32 4 ай бұрын
When I was younger, I adopted the identity of atheism. As I've gotten older, my attitude has changed a lot. I didn't know how complex religion actually was at the time, and I didn't know anything about the elaborate mystical traditions that developed out of them. I used to target Christianity in particular, being a western individual whose only real experience with Christianity was through right-wing Protestant Evangelicals - folks who didn't understand their own religion any better than I did. A few things shifted my opinion of Christianity and that was learning more about the early variants (i.e., "Gnosticism") and studying individuals like Meister Ekhart and Pierre de Chardin. I don't identify as an atheist anymore. I'm not sure where I fall - life is a journey, not a conclusion - but if forced into a category, I'd probably call myself a quietly spiritual agnostic who is sympathetic towards some aspects of "Gnosticism" and Christian mysticism - especially Meister Ekhart and others like him. I fully expect this to continue changing as I get older, but I don't know what direction it will change into. It's just a reminder that not only is this stuff complicated, but people can and do change over the course of their lives.
@michaelhenry1763
@michaelhenry1763 2 ай бұрын
Thank you for your post. It sounds like you may also fit the definition of metaphysical or spiritual atheist as discussed in the video.
@Bear-re5xm
@Bear-re5xm 4 ай бұрын
I think I am "definitionally" atheist. But I am more interested in the things and values that people have in common. I wish to focus on those aspects of the human experience. And this channel helps me to that end.
@nathangibbons9492
@nathangibbons9492 4 ай бұрын
Fellow atheist myself, thank you for doing a video on atheism. I think a good follow up would be a video about who was the first atheist. It’s a surprisingly difficult question to answer
@kingrichardiii6280
@kingrichardiii6280 3 ай бұрын
4:00 glad this statistic is shown. so many times i watch a religious debate or a religious philosopher argue against atheism and their argument goes along the lines "an atheist can't recognize human decadency, free will, inspiration, beauty in the transcendent, morality etc. because they believe only in the natural world, they believe they are a 'meatball in space'". not all atheist are materialist, just because we do not believe in the existence of god does not exclude the spiritual or transcendent.
@Bigparr43
@Bigparr43 4 ай бұрын
So, I am pretty much the stereotype of your average atheist. I am a white guy with a degree, philosophical naturalist. I love your channel though. I grew up in a Christian family in a highly religious town and went to church every once in a while. I came out as atheist at age 16 and the social backlash was significant. My mother yelled at me for over an hour and threatened to force me to go to church every sunday, people from school I didn't even know would send me random messages on social media telling me I was going to hell. My aunt tried telling me I was confused at my brother's wedding, etc. It turned me into the angry, anti-religious atheist. Thankfully, I met many wonderful religious people/communities over time and I came to love and be fascinated with different religions and their stories. We all can grow if given the right environment
@tylercross8877
@tylercross8877 4 ай бұрын
Atheism is a social identity of mine, and you described my demographics perfectly 😂 I love sociology
@ReligionForBreakfast
@ReligionForBreakfast 4 ай бұрын
Dr. Stewart's distinction between "atheists" and "atheistic people" was very eye opening!
@tsopmocful1958
@tsopmocful1958 4 ай бұрын
​@@ReligionForBreakfastIt's a pity that so much of this research you cited seems to be US based when that nation is known to have quite an extreme religious spectrum. It would interesting to compare those kind of surveys with ones taken in other Anglophone nations like Britain, Canada, NZ or my place Australia. Then other Western nations too. Atheism on those places may not have the same social stigma as in the US.
@varana
@varana 4 ай бұрын
@@tsopmocful1958 There was a survey in East Germany (i.e. the ex-communist part) in the mid-90s that basically got as its result for the religion question in the majority something like "err, nothing? just ... normal".
@Sothas
@Sothas 4 ай бұрын
Im a woman and atheist. I also know many. We're also secular humanists.
@user-Kova15
@user-Kova15 4 ай бұрын
Humanists is just another cult. You’re Not an atheist
@ItisMoody
@ItisMoody 4 ай бұрын
I’m so thankful for Dr. Andrew Henry! You’re beyond awesome
@michaelwright2986
@michaelwright2986 4 ай бұрын
Thank you. Although it's not defined, New Atheism is useful as a label, at least as useful as the labels applied to literary or other artistic movements. And the chief feature of New Atheist discourse is that the practitioners don't understand Christianity; or at least, think that all Christianity is like rather benighted forms of US White Conservative Evangelicalism (very marked in the anti-creationist rhetoric of Dawkins, who is English; he would be hard pressed to find a creationist in any of the long-established denominations in England). Many campaigning atheists aren't clear whether they're opposed to the idea of God, or opposed to organised religion. That's a distinction I'm sure you'll be pursuing, but we all know of intensely believing theists who have been strongly opposed to at least some forms of the religious group they were brought up in or which surrounds them (defiers of steeple houses, shall we call them). Meanwhile, as some people who don't believe in God form groups for mutual support and delight and to celebrate their world view, one watches with a certain wry amusement as the history of religion seems to begin to be played out in them. How long, I wonder, before a dispute about what it takes to be a true atheist? This, of course, only applies to public atheists, and especially atheist campaigners, and has nothing to say to about the many people who live their lives without belief in any god or godlike entity (sorry, hard to express that in the light of the Christian theological tradition that says it is incorrect to say that God exists). It would be interesting to know if those many people are happier or not, feel themselves more open to flourishing than the typical believers/practitioners of a variety of faiths. For the avoidance of doubt, I'm not in the USA. That poor country, amongst its many ills, is under the baneful influence of a mistaken form of Christian belief so deviant as to perhaps amount to heresy. In the USA, Satanism has a lot of work today (as long as they don't really believe in Satan).
@HOPEDACODER
@HOPEDACODER 4 ай бұрын
The problem with being an atheist in a predominantly religious region is that people[not all] when they find out you're an atheist will try by all means to convert you to their religion. Like this one coworker whose whole personality is being religious realized I don't religion😅, now every single day will tell me to repent and that "Jesus loves you".
@Crospic
@Crospic 4 ай бұрын
As an atheist, not even I can give it a definition… So I was wondering why I called myself an atheist anyway. I think the answer lies in the feeling that whatever comes after, the feeling of freedom must be the first. Otherwise I will have to depend on whether I receive oxygen or not, based on circumstance.
@asura3955
@asura3955 4 ай бұрын
I'm an agnostic atheist, I'm open to the idea of either deism or pantheism, but of course irrefutable evidence is what I need. even if it is proven, would I worship and pray to it or engage in ritualistic activities to it? no. I would just be like, hey nice kudos to the universe 👍 but yeah, props to dozens of cultures and their idea or concept of god or their own deity. I honestly like the idea of it? but I don't necessarily believe in it as a tangible being, like I treat it as something cool as in like a comic book character or an anime character, I would ravel in their lore, design, feats, and it just seems so grand and marvelous. and not gonna lie, faith or belief is needed in society, despite with its cons and being treated as a necessary evil. it helps people cope, have this sense of security, comfort, peace, love, community, etc. what I'm against is the reverse effects of religion, like they advertise love, peace, unity, and more, but the reverse would happen like hate, war, divide, discrimination, etc.
@Donnerwamp
@Donnerwamp 4 ай бұрын
Very interesting video, I'm looking forward to all the other videos in this series.
@Shinjin509
@Shinjin509 4 ай бұрын
Great start to what may be an excellent and valuable series.
@milacolman
@milacolman 4 ай бұрын
I love your content and I was waiting for this video 🙌
@davianoinglesias5030
@davianoinglesias5030 4 ай бұрын
Growing up in Central Kenya, a very religious place I was a very inquisitive kid and an avid reader. My mother says its no surprise I ended up being an atheist
@Wszobrody
@Wszobrody 4 ай бұрын
I am an atheist, and what Christopher Cotter said (10:00) is pretty much my worldview in a nutshell. And yes, I am white, male, young, progressive and I was at university 😅
@kameko_exe
@kameko_exe 4 ай бұрын
I really feel like we need two definitions of karma, because there are two definitions. The traditional supernatural definition is something an atheist wouldn't believe in, but many Buddhists (both secular and non-secular) understand karma as simply being the laws of cause and effect, no different from gravity and relativity. The reason secular karma is different from general cause and effect is because it changes the perspective of a single actor in the world experiencing cause and effect to putting the perspective as that entire world itself.
@manderse12
@manderse12 4 ай бұрын
Great video and equally great series you have planned. Looking forward to it. You're doing excellent work, BTW. I just became an annual Patreon supporter. :)
@roseandsword.
@roseandsword. 4 ай бұрын
I think there is an important distinction to be made when defining atheism. Statements such as ,,I don't believe God exists" or ,,I believe God doesn't exists" have very different implications, for example.
@bluevayero
@bluevayero 4 ай бұрын
Agreed, and unfortunately "atheist" applies validly to both those positions. Which is why I avoid using it and choose to fully qualify my (un)belief when it matters.
@hedgehog3180
@hedgehog3180 4 ай бұрын
Tbf I feel like the difference only matters because religious apologists won't shut up about it. It should be obvious to anyone that when someone says “I don't believe X exists” they aren't asserting that they have positive proof that X doesn't exist, they're saying that they fail to see the evidence that it does exist. Like if I say “I don't believe Bigfoot exists” it is obvious that I'm saying that I don't see the evidence for Bigfoot as compelling.
@QuantumHistorian
@QuantumHistorian 4 ай бұрын
You missed out the best parts of the bus story! Firstly it didn't come out of nowhere, but it was in response to another ad campaign that posted apocalyptic bible verses on buses. Secondly, some people got rather upset about the joke and lodged a complaint with the _Advertising Standards Agency_ that it was a misleading advert. Meaning that a regulatory body in the UK had to judge on the likelihood of God existing! Which, if anything, made the joke a lot better.
@FuzzyValentine-n3h
@FuzzyValentine-n3h 4 ай бұрын
I call myself agnostic. I have never been to church, but I also have never felt a need for a ritual or mass gathering of any kind. I'm fine on my own, keeping my personal thoughts to myself and letting others be. I look forward to this series! 😊
@buildingintelligencetogeth6638
@buildingintelligencetogeth6638 4 ай бұрын
Just stumble upon your channel and will be keen to have your expanding recommended articles or books list to understand religion. I am especially fascinated by the history of the different religion, and of course what their beliefs are AND how it influence politics as well. :)
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