What is Brown's Gas part 4 : Gathering electrons

[@TravisTellsTruths]

These are very cool experiments done with proper scientific equipment and methods. Great work on this series, Steve. My machine is working really well with your cells and reservoir and bubbler. I'm so surprised your reservoir has not leaked a drop and your bubblers and cells are top notch. The only single complaint at all with my 30 plate is that the outer hardware and bolts are not 316 grade and initially my own reservoir in my car had leaked and corroded the bolts. Otherwise it's been very efficient and produces very well for me. I'm breathing 30 amps and using a little water, too. It's definitely better for drinking while it has a negative ORP from hydrogen. It tastes better and smoother and I drink more because it tastes much healthier and "alive." Use some veey important mineral bicarbonates guys (electrolytes). You will thank me. I'm making cert special "synthetic spring water." It's a big deal for human health.

[@lanael7278]

I have an alkaline Brown's Gas generator with two consequent water cups for gas purification. Do any extra elections get through the cups into the inhalation tubing?

[@Hydrogen4Health]

@lanael7278 From what I have observed, I would have to say yes, they do

[@lanael7278]

@@Hydrogen4Health This is a good news, I would like to inhale more electrones. Would you be able to make a video testing it after Brown's Gas passing through water cups? Another question, why would my machine have two water cups and not one?

[@junkyoutube9060]

What came to mind while watching is to try feeding one of the air holes in the propane torch with PEM gas to see if it produces a voltage, and then feed just the H side of the PEM gas into an air hole, then try just feeding the O side of the PEM gas into the air hole. Also you could try just feeding the raw gas (un-lit) into the stainless, as a flame might not be necessary, then just H, then just O. .

[@ecopegasus]

Interesting thinking. Good ideas.

[@junkyoutube9060]

@@ecopegasus George have you looked into SG Gas ? called after the "inventors" Ted Suratt and Robinson Gourley. My understanding is they are trying to make mostly the bubbles that form between the plates. It doesn't self ignite until compressed to 1,600 psi. From the outside it just looks like electrolysis, but they are using pluses to create a pulsing magnetic field and thus the H4O2 they say. They use a SMPS by Volteq, I think it's the HY 3050 EX (30 volt 50 amp) and I asked Volteq what their switching frequency was and they replied, about 100 KiloHertz. search patents by Robinson B. Gourley and Ted Suratt Over at lenr-forum there is a thread called "Hydrogen / Oxygen explosion?" and the user Drgenek posted a little more info on SG Gas, including mentioning that if it is ignited with a hot wire, then there is a slow implosion. A thought I had was for you to try winding up the frequency of your AC-50 to 100 KiloHertz and lowering the duty cycle just to see what kind of gas it produces. Mostly implosive maybe ? .

[@junkyoutube9060]

@@ecopegasus George have you looked into SG Gas ? called after the "inventors" Ted Suratt and Robinson Gourley. My understanding is they are trying to make mostly the bubbles that form between the plates. It doesn't self ignite until compressed to 1,600 psi.

[@ecopegasus]

@@junkyoutube9060 Yes, years ago, and when I pointed out how their underground explosion test failed they stopped communicating with me. The test they reported at the time was igniting a chamber of gas underground and said that the fact that there was dirt in the chamber after the ignition proved that it was an implosion, not an explosion. The 'problem' with that explanation was that their chamber was sealed and pressurized, so for dirt to get into the tank it would need to be 'opened' which could ONLY happen with EXPANSION (explosion)... All Brown's Gas is first explosive and if the explosion is contained, there is a net vaccum as the gasses turn into liquid, taking up 1800x less volume. kzbin.info/www/bejne/Y2qonpqJpNyfmtk They were not able to prove (to me) that their gas was implosive only or that it could be safely compressed (just the opposite). If you have access to such proofs, please do share. They won't talk to me.

[@TheSwipeking]

at the 10;25 point of this video I can see a stop start edit flicker Steve???

[@Hydrogen4Health]

I don't see it but the raw video footage for this video is over an hour long. It's been edited down to 13 minutes.

[@ecopegasus]

Note that MOST 'alkaline' electrolyzers ALSO have a membrane, separating the hydrogen and oxygen streams, this is how electrolysis was done (traditionally) for hundreds of years, until William Rhodes patented the 'single ducted gas' in the early 1960's. So it isn't just the more modern PEM/SPE electrolyzers that have a membrane. What was the meter scale set on? Can you do the experiment with an analog meter so we don't see the digital 'dither'? I'd suggest setting the torch on a stand of some sort to keep the flame in an optimized location.

[@Hydrogen4Health]

Take it for what it is. Both gasses measured voltage on the voltmeter. If you want the experiment redone you will have to do it yourself. HHOBALL did it years ago and i'm surprised you have not duplicated it.

[@ecopegasus]

@@Hydrogen4Health Yes both were measured with the same meter, that's not the point. The point is that, in certain applications a digital meter isn't the best choice because it's impossible to get an accurate stable reading. Thus the 'averaging' tendency of an analog meter is better. Also, if I was to duplicate this experiment (which I'm considering) I think fixing the torch in a holder instead of waving it about would give the most accurate 'reading'... Which is important for experiments like this where you are trying to prove the gasses are the same. So I'll be asking you for an H2 Life v5 so I can test this myself... Because I'm interested in the experiment and I'd like to see it done properly. I'm willing to follow the science, but ONLY when properly done.

[@ecopegasus]

@@Hydrogen4Health I'd really like to duplicate it properly. I'll purchase one of your H2 Life v5 to test.

[@TravisTellsTruths]

You are completely wrong about that, HHO was invented/discovered with single ducted right from the beginning with Faraday, himself. What you just claimed is fully bogus.

[@TravisTellsTruths]

Mr Brown is famous for attempting to do many things with HHO or (Bang Gas in Germany) not for "discovering it."