What is Causing Your Shoulder Pain? Shoulder Instability? How to Tell.

What is Causing Your Shoulder Pain? Shoulder Instability? How to Tell.
Shoulder instability is an unstable shoulder. Your shoulder is made up of bones that form a ball and socket. When you have an unstable shoulder the ball of the shoulder is not staying within the socket. Could shoulder instability be the root cause of your shoulder pain? In this program video Bob and Brad discuss everything you need to know about shoulder instability and the effect it has on the body.
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[@jennyhunter9346]

I would just like to thank you for these posts. My husband sustained two severe head injuries in 2006 and 2007. He was hospitalised for 18 months in total. Recovery has been slow. 😕...but your encouragement has given me the tools I need to improve his condition because when he sees/listens to your videos he can relate to your camaraderie and is inspired by it.

[@BobandBrad]

Thank you for your kind words! Best of luck for you and your husband

[@HimMakeMusic]

I'm hypermobile in my joints. I've fully dislocated my left shoulder like 8-9 times. Luckily it hasn't happened since having labral repair surgery on it. But now I'm having issues with my right shoulder as well . Trying to do some strengthening as they said, but to say that I'm "apprehensive" towards certain movements is an understatement at this point. This series could not have come at a better time. Thank you gentlemen.

[@mohammedfardeen7660]

I am also facing same problem

[@mohammedfardeen7660]

Can you play badminton

[@claraht.6999]

Welcome back BOB!

[@BobandBrad]

Thanks!

[@Dantastic123]

Yinz have me convinced I have shoulder instability in my left shoulder.

[@amyfeng9295]

Fifteen years ago I accidentally found out that I could halfway pull out my arms from the shoulders and then locate them back. Was just wondering about this again recently, and now I got recommended this video!

[@jasonhanson6563]

You described my right shoulder exactly, It feels like it wants to fall out of the socket constantly.

[@snipe4lllife]

I'm sorry to hear that, I thought i I dislocated my shoulder last night and I've done it before but have never actually been treated. It always seems to "pop back in" last night it happened and the pain was so unbearable I couldn't move my arm so I had to go to the hospital, while I was waiting they gave me a dose of fentanyl for the severe pain and I relaxed my arm and i could move it all of a sudden and I ended up going home just because there was over 30 people ahead of me. Today it hurts but I can move it, but I'm afraid to move it too much incase that happens again. I am going to get it checked out soon because it is starting to worry me. Simple things like coughing or sneezing can make it feel like its popped out of place.

[@leadthertoxic4102]

I have a same problem, i will have a dislocation of shoulder , but used to pop back right after 4 to 5 seconds, it usually gives a lot of pain at that time but will be ok next day. But recently dislocation was troublesome , i dislocated and never got back and need to go hospital and need to pull it out, this time the pain was there till week. I went to doctor and have a test , am looking either i should go for surgery or physio ? If anyone know physio will helpful in this matter please let me know.

[@youthgeneration3333]

@@snipe4lllife I have the same thing for 7 years today i finally know what i have

[@youthgeneration3333]

@@leadthertoxic4102 I have same problem to for 7 years one time i was doing bench and my shoulder pop out it was my longest period about 10 mins. Whne first happen to me i was so afraid and dont know what to do but after 20-30 times or more pop out shoulder now i know what to do basically when you train it and you push your limit that will make pop out hard and with pain will last morr minutes than average but if you are normal without training it will last 1 max 2 minutes.Basically what i do i just relax breathe and relax like giving up the shoulder relax everything breathe and put my other arm under shoulder and a lot of time go back to normall. Btw today i have discover after 7 years doctors fizioterapy etc that i have shoulder instability. Best Regards

[@hannahheimer3025]

So fun to watch the evolution of these guys' videos!

[@carlyar5281]

Oh I wish I saw this three years ago!! A seemingly minor FOSH caused a cascade of issues, which included a PT stretching my posterior capsule. All resulted in MDI and reoccurring subluxations before being identified as hypermobile. One surgery (posterior capsule shift) and an hEDS diagnosis later I’m trying to put off a second surgery by working on strengthening.

[@draquela96]

I have hypermobile Ehlers Danlos Syndrome - it took me FOREVER to stabilize my shoulders, I had to do lots of strengthening exercises to build up the muscles around it

[@allyg8846]

Can I ask what you did and how long a day? Working through shoulder issues now and just feeling down that it has been so long to heal.

[@giraffeyanne24]

How did you get tested? I need to be, but they just keep putting me in PT.

[@alexandrupavel5397]

YOU SAVED ME.THANKS GUYS!

[@BobandBrad]

Thank you!

[@charlottestandage2765]

Thank you so much for spreading awareness of hypermobility. I watched your pod cast recently with Jeannie Di Bon. I have now been diagnosed with hEDS and also have shoulder instability. I'm now having physio for this and much more. I had no idea that it was subluxing until watching one of your video's.

[@SRF-vm3fy]

how are you doiin? did pt helped you at all?

[@charlottestandage2765]

​@@SRF-vm3fyI'm doing really well. I still have some shoulder instability but it is improved. And patella instability (mainly left) but this has also improved. My jaw unfortunately still gets stuck open but it has improved. Everything has really improved with physio. Thanks for asking.

[@echoecho6445]

4 weeks in fracture and dislocation, seems to be healing back well. hoping it stays strong

[@esmeralda8430]

I really felt the gap! Thank you!

[@ahmadbaderal-deen7765]

Thank you guys!

[@adityaingle9314]

I was diagnosed with an unstable shoulder and all signs you guys mentioned were seen in my case. Please share the specific shoulder strengthening exercises that you mentioned for getting rid of shoulder instability! 🙏

[@MS-vn6tv]

Hey aditya ... I've had success with doing forward and side arm raises with very light weights at first (3-5 lbs or no weight at all) and also with doing swimmers presses with light weights ... I also looked thru their channel a bit and found this video ... Good luck kzbin.info/www/bejne/oXa5hZt5iaegprM

[@Hannah591]

I have shoulder instability. I've had a physiotherapist physically manipulate the bone in the joint and was visibly shocked at how mobile it was. I have photos of me where that dip is visible and I remember my shoulder feeling loose at the time of the photo. I get terrible muscle tension. :(

[@sunlight8299]

I'm watching this so that I can reduce the muscle pain my boyfriend has to regularly massage away

[@leadthertoxic4102]

Hi hannah, was physiotherapy helpful for your shoulder instability? How long you took the physiotherapy seasion ?

[@ZoraAisling]

Can you be hypermobile in some joints but not others? I can't quite touch my arm with my thumb and my elbows are fine but my knees bend backwards a bit and my ankles are very loose. Asking because my shoulders seem to tick most of the boxes from this video (only I don't think I've ever dislocated anything!)

[@markhooker8520]

With joints like that, if you are not a swimmer, you might want to try.

[@WilsonFrontier001]

Hey guys 🖐🏻 I broke my elbow in January, and then everything happened in March, and my other health issues has me on lockdown since! My broken arm has of course healed, but it still has pain now and then. Was curious if you had any ideas on excercises I can do to help that? Thanks so much. 😎

[@jab-io2po]

Can you guys do a video on strengthening your shoulder after a labrum tear (a very horrible one “around the world tear” is what my Surgeon called it.. and I moved and have no insurance.. what video is good on strengthening the whole shoulder I do MMA btw so I’m a fighter And I need to properly heal

[@BobandBrad]

Have you seen this video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/Y2LSf6eHn9VjfZY

[@Demonboy66771]

Is my shoulder popping in and out when it cracks ?

[@Sam66519]

what exercise’s fir these to prevent them

[@myvetsGR]

Dear Bob n Brad,I ve suffer AC joint grade 3 4 years ago. My functionality if all good ,is just that i have this loose sloopy feeling on my shoulder everytime,having the feeling that my shoulder doesnt rest right.Sometimes i think it affects the way i talk as well... Is this how it s going to be unless i do surgery?. All the other physiotherapists are like uhhh you are ok and dont want to listen.to you have any recommendation for this issue?!Thanks a lot,u rock guys!

[@aidenonline2553]

Hi

[@BobandBrad]

Hi!

[@Soviless99]

broken my humerus in half 8 years ago. my arm is bent 20 degrees as the doctors never saw cause to set my arm. it was a clean break. it caused severe trauma to my shoulder joint and my scapula wings and scrapes the back of my rib as a result of my humeral head often being out of the socket. it causes weakness and burning pain and arthritis daily. no doctors have helped me…

[@rajeevnaik3877]

I have hypermobile shoulder and other joints. I am strengthening the rotator cuffs, rhomboids, levetor muscles etc. But I think for ppl like me neuromuscular connection is as important as strength. Even though these muscles have enough strength but my brain doesn't summon them when needed there by making them dormant. Also I'm 30 now so I have these muscles sleeping for years. So teaching ppl the right movement pattern and also information as to when which muscles must be activated is far more important. I have left scapula inferior angle and median border grinding something in my back. I don't know if it's ribs, or tendons and or lats. I'm good at mimicking movements so if you can show how those things should actually move inside body then the right movement will automatically strengthen the required muscles. I'm tired of finding that information on internet and don't trust an average PT to know about my special case.

[@supakid628]

I had surgery 4 months ago ! Still going therapy 3x a week and my shoulder still feels unstable ! Ball shifts when I’m in awkward positions but it hasn’t fully subluxation yet ! Is that normal ? Do I need to get surgery again to stabilize the shoulder ?

[@davidjitt8097]

Update?

[@supakid628]

@@davidjitt8097 I had to get a laterjet procedure. 7 months out back to lifting playing and my shoulder hasn’t dislocated

[@minipralines4012]

Please make a video about arm, neck and and back exercises/stretches for pregnant women on bedrest.. 🙏🏻

[@BobandBrad]

I will put this on our to do list! Thank you for the suggestion.

[@minipralines4012]

@@BobandBrad Yay! Thank you!

[@bhaweshsahu5204]

I have instable shoulders and I suffered injuries on both shoulders. Any thing I can do?? I am 21 yrs old. Nutrition medication yoga exercize can anything help me out plz tell!!!

[@muralieluru493]

No use bro i am also same position need to go for both surgeries.

[@casaundraarellano4532]

You guys are great:)

[@godmadethedonkeytalkjuliem8404]

My shoulders sag I have tingling in my left side shoulder blade, I have less feeling on that side. They pop really loud and they crack

[@suki7463]

Mine too!

[@Angelica-jx5ly]

omg me too!! when i rotate it it keeps cracking and i have a tingling on scapula all on left

[@Angelica-jx5ly]

i realise i dont have impingement or rotator cuff problem but this 😭😭 bob and brad always finds rhe answers

[@jab-io2po]

My shoulder was getting dislocated for almost no reason just taking off a shirt and I just got surgery about 4 months back can still barely use it Labrum tear What exercise can I do since I can’t go to rehab for it

[@BobandBrad]

Here's a video you can try: kzbin.info/www/bejne/Y2LSf6eHn9VjfZY

[@jab-io2po]

@@BobandBrad mine was the shoulder labrum Tear

[@HimMakeMusic]

Exact thing happened to me. Last time I dislocated it I was putting on a sweater. Heed my warning. DO ALL OF YOUR PHYSICAL THERAPY HOMEWORK DILIGENTLY. Don't slack on it, or it will continue to be unstable and you will regret it.

[@snipe4lllife]

That sounds like what I've been experiencing off and on, would yu be able to move it around and it go back in place? That seems like it happens to me every time because I freak out and then it pops back in. Last night I had to go to the hospital because it happened and the pain was too much, I couldn't move my arm at all without stabbing pain, while waiting in the hospital they gave me a dose of fentanyl for the pain which relaxed me and it popped back in again so I left. I think its time to get it checked out because my shoulder is fucked today

[@2Trill304]

Is it regular for this to cause pain in the kneck and elbow? I was diagnosed with this but it doesn’t explain my kneck and tendon pain

[@walkingolga6235]

yes mate the victim is louder than the culprit

[@alifkhan6998]

How the hell was this recommended to me,when I had pain in my shoulder.....

[@MikeMayfair]

Alif Khan if your watching this with any smart device they can now read your mind and see your body language trough camere ( maybe touching your shoulders etc)..

[@TellieH]

Your device listens to you. Many a time I get notifications or recommendations on a topic I have been chatting about with a friend (without saying "Hey Google")

[@TellieH]

@@djmartian7171 creepy thing is on these occasions I had not

[@alifkhan6998]

@@djmartian7171 dude I didn't, this is weird .

[@alifkhan6998]

@@TellieH that happens so often you're right.

[@Mo-oo8xm]

How to treat this?

[@am2368]

Alhamdulillah Thank A Lot 💐

[@themeat5053]

We want Mike!

[@jared-g]

Hi Bob and Brad, any advice for someone with calcific tendinitis in the supraspinatus? I've been doing banded (supinated) pull aparts, face pulls, dislocations, seated rows and pull ups for the past month as per my PT, but have seen no results. The only thing that gives me a tiny bit of relief is the percussion massager, but after a few hours the pain is back to 100% =[ advil had no effect either

[@LK-er2bs]

I feel my shoulder and knees give out multiple times a day i want to fix this

[@Dijon118]

I dislocated my shoulder at probably 6 years of age. Now with 20 I have these indications like clunky sounds when rotating or that big gap when flexing my muscles. The problem is that when I go all out my left shoulder just feels like giving away. What is the best thing to do from here.

[@ItCantRainForever2]

My neck bone is connected to my... Lol

[@alexandramaclachlan7597]

Ehlers Danlos joints :P

[@ladysay3]

Do you click like even before watching the video. Have a great day!

[@alicecruz4926]

How about herbal supplement to relieve fatigue

[@BobandBrad]

I will add that to our to do list! Thank you for the suggestion!

[@robinphinoxwonderbuoy3221]

I have had pain in my shoulder and mom as well. She had to have two surgerys and a ball put in... I figured its because of the lack of natural vitamins. I spent a week on taking selenium, vitamin d3, iron, vitamin E, Omega 369, vit A, Zinc, plus all the B's. this shoulder pain has been intense for almost a year and just come from out of know where.. odd so many are having the same syptoms as if something was put to cause so much of the population having the same problem???hmmmm. others are having surgery. I jucied up on the minerials. We are created from Earth, or earthly bodies so it makes sense to replenish that which is robbed from us through our eating habits, the less nutrition in the foods produced by manufactures or even a multi-vitamin only gives a small percent of all the daily intake of natural minerals. I no longer do the multi even though it appears as more powerful, yet its only small percent of the regular daily allowance because they tell you the rest should come from your food intake, yet society no longer gives fresh foods. its all cooked leaving no nutrition or stored for long periods in dark cans which gives no LIGHT energy or LIFE to the food.. imagine if you will a fresh food product living in a dark can only being exposed to dark energy. Dark energy is painful and light energy is healing. I encourage everyone to start on your natural intakes of vitamins. remember, multi vitamins only give a small percent of many plus fillers... take your body back there is too much going on in our world and to the people with to many surprise or scares. peace

[@robinphinoxwonderbuoy3221]

ium in the minerial is ions, we are electric or energy bodies or a mirror reflection of earth

[@nellers31]

Both my shoulders do this . 😩

[@cryomaniac7068]

Same

[@fatguyonthc]

Hinged rows yo!! Fire those glutes and roms up and brace your core and your rotator cuffs will thank you 🙏💪🤙🍻

[@alicecruz4926]

I had shoulder pain for over the year every morning I cried on excruciating pain I had X-ray therapy ibuprofen know what fuck I search I tried magnesium in one click pain never come it’s been 5 years ago never have pain doctor insurance fuck no help ...

[@4244john]

Great info but I wish you guys added some kind of subtitles and photos. You guys just yap away too much

[@deerinheadlights9784]

I know what’s causing mine and it still is tough rehabbing. I’ve been diagnosed with rotator cuff disease. I have tendinopathy in both of my infraspinatus muscles/tendons on both sides and a low grade partial tear on my supraspinatus on the one. I was asking my PT yesterday who said even if the capsule is bothering me it would still be the same treatment. I do my Y’s, T’s, and sidelines. Working from zero lbs to 3lbs. I’m at 1lb right now and it’s difficult and causes pain which will hopefully go away once the strength can absorb it. Mine is caused from trauma as far as we know that’s it. My PT who sees mostly shoulders and has been doing this for 10-15 years says mine are the most sensitive shoulders he’s seen. Meaning I numb myself elbow into a couch, someone brushes against my arm, etc. I get so many knots. We haven’t done that pull test, have done that other one afterwards, haven’t done the third one, and I hate doing shoulder tests. My PT does manual work on me twice a week. I’m 37 year old and injured mine 2 years ago. This is one of the worst/annoying injuries where I struggle to even take care of myself having injuries to 3 of my 8 SITS muscles (for both shoulders). Wish everyone a speedy recovery if you’re dealing with any version of shoulder pain it.

[@deerinheadlights9784]

Ghandi Blyat It happened because I fell on the ice on my left side and while rehabbing the physical therapy (PT) exercises were too intense as suggested which likely caused the tendinopathy (on the right). It was a dolphin push up which is not recommend for early rotator cuff by any other PT I’ve seen and certainly not daily at the level recommended. I’ve had chronic issues with the right for 17 years but never for more then a few weeks or months. Maybe only 3-5 times total in that many years. The left pain from the ice went away quickly. The right gave me more issues then ever before rehabbing for months and not quite getting to pain free where it effected my workouts. One night the pain was so bad that to sleep I braced it with my left hand. My left arm was outstretched and i fell asleep that way, which I didn’t mean to. My left is my dominant side by the way. So that’s the infraspinatus on my left. Progression was great from January to April of 2020. I started to do push ups with a basketball underneath, pulpy ups with assisted resistance bands, and then shooting basketball hoops. I made a mistake with my anger one day and slammed a basketball on the ground several times which is a ballistic sort of move. They weren’t that strong yet and my right hurt bad again. Since then it’s been difficult not activating one side or the other due to daily life, tripping/falling/bumping into a couch/someone brushing up against me/etc. We’re trying to push through with precautions to gain strength and I have a lot of knots around my infraspinatus, teres minor and/or major, and supraspinatus. I’m starting to incorporate acupuncture today since it’s also effecting my anxiety. Hopefully that will help the blood flow. I may try some dry needling and will regress as suggested. At this time I’m doubtful they’ll order updated mri images. The twice a week pressure point work at physical therapy helps some too. It’s difficult living by myself because it would help to have help while they’re getting stronger. Hot pad and lacrosse ball work helps also at home. It hurts a lot and also takes a lot of time plus time for it to calm down between incidents. The goal is to get it stronger to be able to have the tensile strength to absorb the impacts I’m demanding/asking from it. Hope that helps answer your questions? Hope you feel better if you’re having issues too.

[@mariahgutierrez4481]

I have ADHD so I have joint issues, I throw myself out just sitting wrong 😭

[@RhaegarDefense]

Nice job stealing videos and thumbnails!!!

[@OxysLokiMoros]

not helpful

[@Chrismw81]

Free advice kids: stop bench pressing. It's stupid.

[@mohammadalessa8819]

I totally agree 👍🏼 But unfortunately I didn’t figure out what is the alternative. maybe chest flys, cable cross or one arm hammer press 🤔 I wonder if anyone figured it out

[@Chrismw81]

@@mohammadalessa8819 Pushups. That's it. The easiest way to train "pushing" strength. For years I got way too hung up on which exercises "worked the pecs" the best and after all this time I wish I would have just stuck with the BASIC bodyweight stuff.

[@Logan-zv4xg]

Why that's retarded

[@doricoldwell29]

Hypermobility Ehlers Danlos Syndrome (HEDS)an awful and painful genetic disorder. No such thing as double jointed, its important to name it correctly.