What is Combined Arms Manoeuvre and how could it be used in Ukraine?

Western tanks, including 14 Challenger 2s from the UK, Abrams from the US and Leopard 2s from Germany, are to begin being sent to Ukraine to aid its fight against Russia's invasion.
It is hoped the battle tanks will play a pivotal role for Kyiv in helping to repel an expected spring offensive by Moscow.
For the Ukrainian tank advances to be effective, they need to use Combined Arms Manoeuvre - but what does this mean?
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[@dougcoombes8497]

Ukraine is getting everything it needs for extensive combined arms operations this year. The Challenger 2s and Leopard 2s for heavy direct firepower. For heavy mobile artillery support, in addition to what it has now, the UK is sending 30 AS-90s, the US just sent 18 Paladins, between Denmark and France there are 31 more Caesars going to Ukraine. An undisclosed number of Archers. The US just ramped up 155mm shell production by 500% to 90,000 shells a month so Ukraine won't run out of those. For the mechanized infantry support Ukraine already has hundreds of BMPs. With the new addition of 50 Bradleys, 40 Marders and 50 CV90s. Which will almost certainly be added to as well as more Challenger 2s and Leopard 2s as needed. AFU tanks will have all the infantry support they need to protect them from Russian ATGMs. We've trained Ukraine in combined arms operations starting in 2015. They know what they're doing and have the means more than ever now. We no longer even talk about Russian Battalion Tactical Groups which were supposed to be their combined arms teams. They were always too light on infantry and now with such losses do they even have any real infantry capable of supporting tanks in combined arms operations. When conditions especially hard ground conditions allow this battle to go far more mobile later this year I think we are going to see this discrepancy become the decisive factor in this war.

[@winstonchurchill8491]

Yes they have BMPs

[@pauldespre]

Beside first pack of 50 bradleys the US announced another 56 and 90 strykers.

[@dougcoombes8497]

@@pauldespre Another 56 Bradleys? Yah, Ukraine is going to get everything it needs. And Strykers are nasty, a cousin of mine led a company in Iraq and Afghanistan. Fast, good protection from ATGMs and RPGs with screens and good fire power. Plus the hundreds of MRAPs the US has sent and many hundreds more light mine protected armor from around the world. The AFU is now one of the most mobile forces in the world, when the ground conditions are right they will blitz the Russians all over the Donbass.

[@loadsadosh]

Haha Ukraine is finished.. you people are dreaming!

[@MultiFkUtube]

Ukraine uses like 7000 shells a day. So 90K will last only about 2 weeks. Number of modern tanks are very few. West needs to ramp up production of everything to really give the Ukrainians what they need. Hope they do and end the war sooner rather than later.

[@jaymac7203]

This is definitely what Ukrainian troops are drilling like crazy right now.

[@weaverlforest6454]

Absolutely!!!

[@iche9373]

Push it to the limit

[@TheHonestJock]

Lmfao are they aye? By troops do you mean forced conscripts? Suit them better to be drilling on how to work tanks specifically the ones they are stupidly being gifted. Even hardened UAF tank crews will need months of training on the tanks as well as an additional crew member for every single tank. Ukraine is losing

[@jamesmccann531]

@@TheHonestJock if by losing you mean pushing back the enemy...

[@TheHonestJock]

@@jamesmccann531 are they aye? At the rate they are winning how quickly will they remove Russia from their territory? 700 years or so?

[@ProjecthuntanFish]

Desert Storm was all about combined arms

[@r.s.p8812]

Best example how combined arms should be done

[@daniel931016]

@@r.s.p8812 It is pretty much another word for Blitzkrieg

[@r.s.p8812]

@@daniel931016 yep the other best example was Battle of France 1940, and the other was Operation Barbarossa 1941

[@daniel931016]

@@r.s.p8812 yeah, the battle of France went so bad for France because they expected a WW1 doctrine. We all know what happened.

[@Bullet-Tooth-Tony-]

@@r.s.p8812 Another one is Operation Compass 1940 in the Western Desert Campaign. The Brits encircled and captured 133,298 Axis troops, 420 tanks, 1,292 Artillery guns and destroyed 1,249 air craft out of a force of 150,000 in just under 2 months with 36,000 soldiers.

[@destroyer0685]

At its core, combined arm's operations is placing all the tools needed to win on the battlefield under one commander. In practice, successful combined arms manuever means getting inside the enemy's decision-making cycle and beating them to the punch. Unsuccessful combined arms operations degenerate into a huge slugging match, which turns a war of movement into a war of attrition.

[@johnthebeloved6598]

What this really is, is a war of secret powers to the very last poor man. No matter how we frame this, Ukrainian and Russian men are being put through the meat grinder. A terrible affair!

[@T_81535]

Combined arms means exactly that. Units like Armor, infantry, artillery, and aircraft fighting in coordination with one another. You guys are putting way to much thought into trying to sound smart or somethin

[@ScumfuckMcDoucheface]

@@T_81535 hahaha well said man. =)

[@webcrawler9782]

This is what makes NATO forces so strong not their tank models alone

[@ricardosmythe2548]

Capable reliable platforms under skilled command used in conjunction with each other using there specific strengths.

[@leftnoname]

British DoD should consider expanding the Army, especially the mechanized maneuver component in face of the current security challenges. There may need to be a reconsideration of new tank production in the UK, since it is not always, that international partners may be relied on equipment and ammunition.

[@andriandrason1318]

With all the budget cuts.

[@jacksonvillejohn9462]

The UK like most European countries rely on the USA!!!!

[@qasimmir7117]

MOD not DoD. But yes, our MOD have been short sighted and penny pinching when it comes to tanks. They stopped production of Challenger 2s prematurely and never gave it a serious domestically produced upgrade.

[@destinyangel5]

"Combined Arms Manoeuvre " = The enemy is gonna get smashed .

[@LesangdesdieuX]

That's a very good and clear explanation the parallel with the orchestra is on point, bravo

[@georgegeorgakopoulos5956]

In Forces News we trust

[@dermotrooney9584]

😆

[@tedzehnder961]

The key, like you said is communication.I hope that is what training is going on.

[@ThatCarGuy]

Abrams are really going to help them out

[@donarthiazi2443]

The Abrams, Challenger, and Leopards will all help Ukraine. But only if they are used in large numbers and, as stated... with infantry support. I don't know if enough infantry fighting vehicles are being sent... in fact, like the armor going over there, I don't think enough are being sent to have a huge impact. It really would be better if just one tank type was going... the logistics will be a nightmare. And an old military axiom states: _"amateurs discuss strategy while professionals discuss logistics"._

[@T_81535]

Western tanks were designed for Western doctrine. Combined arms like the video discussed. The problem is Ukraine is still stuck on old Soviet style doctrine just like the Russians. They want to use tanks as blunt instruments. That's why there's been so many tanks lost in this war because neither side knows what the fvck there doing.

[@jonaspete]

Full firepower

[@markbooth1117]

Combined Arms Manoeuvre. Is this is what was called Blitz.krieg in the past. All arms including air support moving forward.

[@T_81535]

Yup. NATO calls it a combined arms offensive

[@adamnordinrogers]

Nice

[@tedzehnder961]

Oh yeah.Mine clearing the fastest equipment they can get.Mines puts a damper on the show.

[@donarthiazi2443]

Seems as though Dr Patrick Bury has read _Achtung Panzer!_

[@dougcoombes8497]

It requires extensive training to master and professional NCOs and officers at all levels who have the ability to make calls on the fly in battle. Ukraine has that, Russia doesn't. Which is why Russia is now totally reliant on set piece WW I style offensives with massive artillery bombardments then the advance of human wave attacks to overwhelm shell shocked survivors of the bombardment. Which still result in massive Russian casualties. When Ukraine is ready, their offensive maneuver formations are going to tear the mostly static Russian military to pieces.

[@TheHonestJock]

😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@ShadowPhoenixMaximus]

@@TheHonestJock 1 year into the 3 day operation.

[@TheHonestJock]

@@ShadowPhoenixMaximus yep?

[@ShadowPhoenixMaximus]

@@TheHonestJock The Russian terrorist state is a joke.

[@TheHonestJock]

@@ShadowPhoenixMaximus terrorist how?

[@vitaliyvyntu4566]

Thank You so much

[@DavidOfWhitehills]

Metal Heaviest.

[@Alphadec]

sounds like "blitz kreig"

[@vitaliyvyntu4566]

Respect

[@tBar9223]

It’s a shame we’ve given away the only training area where we can actually train CA manoeuvre.

[@Flattyre1]

Is it wise to explain to Russia how you intend to flight them? Keeping quiet on tactics I think would help protect Ukrainian troops.

[@ProjecthuntanFish]

Everyone knows what combined arms is you dolt!

[@mrflibble9783]

None of this should be a surprise to anyone.

[@brendanzhang7488]

this is literally on wikipedia, you can search this up its basic modern war stuff

[@daniel931016]

This is a doctrine used by NATO and has been around since WW2. Russia has known this tactic all the time but they don't know how to implement it themselves.

[@soton5teve]

Russia are now only sending less than 1 tank, & 1 armoured vehicle, & 1 truck, per 100 men. Yesterday for example around bukhmut russia losed 840 troops, but only 6 tanks 8 armoured vehicles and 5 trucks roughly

[@jdoe3006]

What is Combined Arms Maneuver? - Orcs

[@skeletonkey6733]

A great and informative depiction of what Combined Arms Manoeuvre is about combined with Network Centric Warefare to maximise effectiveness and lethality.

[@destroyer0685]

Until your system is jammed or destroyed.

[@skeletonkey6733]

@@destroyer0685 sounds feasible yet so easier said than done in reality.

[@destroyer0685]

@Skeleton Key this is true. As Claueswitz (paraphrasing)said: war is simple, but even simple things in war are hard.

[@msvergara]

clever

[@somebawldy3789]

Probably some Russians watching this taking notes 👍🍻

[@weaverlforest6454]

Wouldn't go up the chain of command.

[@46templar]

Lets hope Russia rethinks its actions and pulls out soon to save needless deaths on both sides as hell is coming to them

[@TheHonestJock]

If you really think Russia is losing you have no concept of the reality of the situation.

[@lambertlum1087]

@@TheHonestJock Russia is losing. Russia suffered two major defeats in Kharkiv and Kherson. Bakhmut is a small city of 70,000, too small to make up for the losses suffered from the Ukrainian counter offensive. Bakhmut hasn't even been taken and Russia fans are claiming that Russia is winning.

[@TheHonestJock]

@@lambertlum1087 are you high?

[@lambertlum1087]

@@TheHonestJock Feel free to show me where Russia has scored a great victory, not some rinky dink town of 10,000, named Soledar. Unless Russia scores victories that match Ukraine's victories, Russia will be in a state of decline.

[@TheHonestJock]

@@lambertlum1087 you know that most of the Donbas region is under Russian control right? And has been for months. At the rate Ukraine is "winning" it will take them several centuries to gain back all the territory they have lost so far

[@WellOilBeefHooked]

He likes his music 👍

[@steeltalon2317]

IF and it is an IF the Ukrainians can learn combined arms war fighting, the war will soon be over.

[@verdebusterAP]

Essentially what Ukraine can use punch Russian forces light out

[@danielwhyatt3278]

Let us hope we can this all down for them in time along with tank training. Slava Ukraine

[@elcormoran1]

Let hope that those mighty tanks do not encounter attack helicopters,su-25 tank Busters, infantry with modern anti-tank weapons ,drones flying around all day and night looking For those coffin, goodluck

[@TheHonestJock]

Delusion The tank training will take months and that's just to operate, they wont be able to maintain or repair them. This whole thing is pure propaganda

[@lambertlum1087]

@@elcormoran1 Sorry, but the Ukrainains tanks of the Kharkiv offensive did quite well, and only increased their numbers by capturing the Russian tanks which had been abandoned.

[@leeneon854]

Never on your own, always got mate, covered you, even it's 120mm,all infantry man, all air, there no holes, with combined firepower, and dislodged them, kick them out of a space, move into, take land, same happened in Falklands, Argentines gave up, out manoeuvred, very quickly, helicopters light tanks, fire support from the sea, sea harrier jump jet, infantry, special forces communications artillery, skill

[@l33trich1]

Legend

[@somebawldy3789]

Getting as bad as the BBC for giving away stuff like this

[@winnywin]

This isn't a secret. It's what every modern military do!

[@lambertlum1087]

Combined armed is decades old theory. US gave a good text book example in Iraq war for everyone to study.

[@tomhenry897]

It’s common sense

[@T_81535]

Giving away what?

[@aravindc102]

Without air dominance ?! doubtful if they can suceed

[@lambertlum1087]

Kharkiv offensive was done without air dominance

[@tomhenry897]

No one side has the air so is a non issue

[@nian60]

Kharkiv and Kherson liberations were done without Western tanks, just with the old Soviet tat that they had. Imagine what they can achieve when they get the better Western stuff. Of course they can succeed.

[@usul573]

Remember when the Soviets were pushed out by the Afghan air force? No?

[@sunme820]

Can I take your videos and I translate to Arabic and French in my KZbin channel?

[@ericwalker8382]

Still to this day do not understand why we did not establish a perimeter around Kabul and transport those vehicles and air lift those supplies to Ukraine. We absolutely saw the troop build-up along the Ukrainian border for a year and when the Taliban became bolder and the Afghani security forces began surrendering without a fight we 100% could have just airlifted and flown everything out, hell we already had control of the largest airstrip in the country. Then boom 5 months later there is a full fledged invasion of a country right next door to NATO allies? Night vision, APCs, Black Hawks, small arms everything we are paying for AGAIN because of this administration's short-sightedness and geopolitical ignorance.

[@Ironpancakemoose]

"Combined Arms Manoeuvre and how could it be used in Ukraine?" It can't be used in Ukraine. Both sides have TOO much air defence and neither can use their air assets (aside from small drones). Unless either side is innovative enough to adapt drones to combined arms manoeuvres, they will struggle to break through.

[@weaverlforest6454]

The Ukrainians will figure it out!!! They r motivated!!!

[@weaverlforest6454]

The Ukrainians will adapt they r motivated!!!

[@TheHonestJock]

@@weaverlforest6454 motivation doesnt fix utter annihilation. The UAF has been utterly smashed and it is now largely forced conscripts that make up their forces. Add to that dismal morale, ongoing crippling defeats and desertions and it's pretty obvious that all this "Ukraine is winning" pish is just that... pish

[@andmos1001]

They have long range artillery which can function as good or even better then aircrafts

[@drbendover7467]

Well no air support, just a few tanks that might turn up after Russians advance a few hundred miles:)

[@andriandrason1318]

more like 2 km

[@unblessedcoffee1457]

"What is Combined Arms Maneuver?" 3 minutes and 11 seconds. People devote their lives to trying to explain this topic lol.

[@weaverlforest6454]

Talking heads.

[@rogerthat4545]

Who devoted their life to explaining it??

[@aleccap5946]

Great, will they also be sending these to Yemin and Palestine ? Why not both are none NATO country's

[@aa-up4sf]

Blitzkrieg

[@scottgalbraith7461]

It's funny cause doesn't Russia need to be asked that question?

[@jaymac7203]

They are unbelievably incompetent. I'm actually surprised at how badly they perform in all areas. Everything from planning, logistics, training, supplies, discipline and importantly morale. It's been a shock to everyone lol

[@Falcon6598]

@@jaymac7203 Propaganda!

[@jeroboam4486]

@@jaymac7203 yet they're still in and in the end they will win. The Ukrainians don't have enough manpower anymore, too much casualties.. Stop believing the propaganda, if the Russian were that bad it would be over a long time ago.

[@willymw78]

@@Falcon6598 just like you

[@Falcon6598]

@@willymw78 Clueless,little girl!

[@kwame176]

It all sounds good on paper until you fight the Russians. 😅

[@untilww3]

Ukraine oh ukraine 😂😂 Inteligen Russia in the office Presiden Zalensky e

[@maratbiden2908]

No NATO = NO WAR!🌎🙏

[@willymw78]

No Russia= No war

[@maratbiden2908]

@@willymw78 USA and UK are the main terrorists in the world!! Western propaganda hides attacks by America and its slaves on Hiroshima and Nagasaki Iraq Iran Libya Syria Vietnam..😡😡

[@willymw78]

@@maratbiden2908 may I remind you that the Soviet Union allied with Nazi Germany to invade Poland. Oh and there are many examples of Russian evils, the holodomor, blockade of Berlin, MH 17, and many more. Russia has done nothing good for the world

[@winstonchurchill8491]

War is a human thing removing a country would do nothing you fools

[@simhaari]

No NATO=no West

[@darchojandreoski9634]

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[@louis.chaha397]

Russia will demonstrate it when they gather enough troops

[@rogerthat4545]

😂 so they embarrassed themselves the first time on purpose?

[@lambertlum1087]

Russia can't do combined arms when all their officers are hiding 100 km behind the front lines. Even Prigozhin mocks the Russian officers when he shows himself at Soledar on day 1. Prighozhin is certainly a scoundrel, but I have to give him credit for being braver than any other guy on the Russian side.

[@rogerthat4545]

@@lambertlum1087 so, all those dead generals?

[@T_81535]

So 150,000 troops weren't enough?

[@jeroenwubbels7824]

Russia left the chat

[@jefflatham3247]

S L A V A UKRAINI !

[@MrTibbs12]

No thanks.

[@Falcon6598]

Brainwashed.

[@draganku]

Zzzx Russia 🇷🇺

[@loadsadosh]

Hahahahahaha. Not gonna happen

[@milchopoposki1453]

MAKEDONIJA VE LJUBI BRAJKA RUSI