What Is Going On In This Canyon?? I Went Back To Explore More!

[@docinparadise]

I’m sure you know how they made caves large - deeper and with more headroom- by finding an overhang, building a large fire to blacken the roof and wall, then easily break out the layers of sandstone until it was pristine again. Then they repeated the process until it was Lange enough to suit their needs. So if you see caves with no visible soot, the ceiling has likely caved in and you are standing on it. This is likely true with the cave you found with the half buried burnt logs but no soot from a fire on the roof. It became brittle and was broken off over time…half burying the logs and masonry and leaving a pristine ceiling. It would be super interesting to see what was underneath.

[@SlumberBear2k]

People back then must have had such vibrant inner worlds. They had nothing to distract themselves like we do.

[@artsimpson3670]

Aloha Jeff, must be crisp clean air. Blue skies and a little snow in patches. Imagine the green and number of wild animals a thousand years ago. A lot looks filled in. Tree root molds. Thanks for taking us along! You're the real deal. May Jesus bless you and yours.

[@svyatoyaleksnevskiy]

Could you expand on that? I'm curious.

[@TheTrekPlanner]

I really appreciate your comment, thank you!!

[@artsimpson3670]

Aloha @svyatoyaleksnevskiy, the area appears to be filled in where Jeff said people had been digging in the past. The pukas, holes in the wall, at 16:40 appear to have been a larger design, now partially obscured by dirt built up in the area. At 0:06, on the first trek, The holes are surrounded with built up rocks. The holes are smooth and do not appear to be cut with tools by man. They flare out at the bottom, with very smooth walls. And the indentations at about 15:55 look hand made but the striated surfaces they exhibit do not. They are consistent with the cliff face. At 13:39 you see two geologic eras. The lower is the older and the checked surface of the rock is very different from that above. Maybe, the lower and first hosted an ancient forest that was killed by the last ice age, Just guessing. And the trees rotted and fell. Then as the ice retreated, leaving barren loess type soils (like the Midwest) and storms blew the dust from hundreds of miles and built up what is now the upper cliff face with rains cutting valleys. The smooth holes and indentations and even the cave at 13:39 could be impressions of trees and trunks that rotted away. They are all at the level where the two geologic areas met and the impressions intrude upon the upper, as though a tree trunk was laying on the lower. It would explain the smooth holes that I believe are tree trunk impressions weathered for a thousand + years.. Also, not that far away is the Petrified National Forest with many examples of petrified trees. Maybe that area was exposed to different soil chemicals and weather and was not covered with soils. As a side note, Ron Wyatt, www.ronwyatt.com/ discovered that the laminated beams of Noah's Ark were now petrified wood. Solid stone when cut with a saw. That was 'only' about 5,000+/- years ago. @@svyatoyaleksnevskiy

[@artsimpson3670]

Mahalo Jeff, It's true and you are welcome!@@TheTrekPlanner

[@darlenewalker9908]

I think the round rock balls you found are probably moki balls, concretions formed around a small grain of sand or perhaps some little bit of shell, (maybe not there,) The sandstone weathers away and these concretions fall out onto the ground below. I find them very interesting. I am almost 80, and an armchair traveler in WA State. I can't get out, so I REALLY appreciate your videos. Thank you so much‼️☺️❤️

[@ronharrison8978]

Agreed. I have some that I found at Coral Pink Sand Dunes State Park in southern Utah.

[@ApacheRCL]

@@ronharrison8978 Everything in Coral Pink Sand Dunes State Park in southern Utah is protected by law. Removal of any natural or cultural resource is prohibited (R651-620-2). My children thank you for taking their potential experiences away.

[@llanitedave]

That first cave you visited might be an archaeologist's dream! It shows multiple occupations, at least one recent and one ancient, and it seems completely unexcavated -- and maybe even unplundered. Sadly, I think you're right about the last site. Probably no backhoes, but drunk friends sounds pretty close. That's a long-term cultural tragedy. I appreciate the respect you show for these sites, Jeff.

[@idiotneighborpyro-maniac]

Paleontologist

[@Redfour5]

And I get all excited when I go up to some old "diggings" on my two acres of mountain, meadow, big ponderosa pines, spruce. I found some old railroad spikes obviously used as a tool and then a bunch of glass shards, likely liquor bottles within throwing distance of the "diggings." The hole itself is about 10 or so feet across. Found some food packaging remains including a 1970's (early) pop tops from soda cans so I guess I dated it... Sure seemed like a waste of a few weeks for someone I'm thinking... But I grew up in the 60's 70's out where you go. Doesn't take much to get me going on ruins.

[@squeebiscuit]

@@idiotneighborpyro-maniac Archaeology is for humans and Paleontology is for life-forms in general, friend. His usage of the term "archaeologist" is correct.

[@MeatHarmonica]

To bad archeologists don’t seem to care about ancient American ruins

[@idiotneighborpyro-maniac]

@@squeebiscuit paleontologist study life through the fossil record. This a multi layer site which is why they directlyinvolved., archaeologist would study part paleontologist the rest. He was only partly right. I have worked with both. I found a 73 million year old mososuar. It's in the Dallas Museum of Science and History. And I spent a lengthy period of time on some ancient human sites. Because these where usd for thousands of years archeologists and paleontologist had to work hand in hand. I wasn't being a Grammer police, I was just adding what was missing. In the end does it matter?

[@denisem.1042]

You would make an excellent archaeologist. Thankfully for us, you're a KZbinr! Love your content!

[@Ron-d2s]

He's a walker, not a digger.

[@-108-]

He would make a terrible archaeologist, because he'd never attempt to uncover anything for fear of "desecrating" it. Archaeologists have to dig and uncover. To this guy, those acts are unforgivable sins.

[@Ron-d2s]

@@-108- He's not an archeologist, he has consulted with academics who all say, "Leave the artifacts where they are." If an item is removed from it's surroundings it loses it's stratification and historical significances. An arrow head on the open market is just a chunk of chert, but next to a wall... under a corn cob is a significant datable artifact. Anyone that does go to an ancient site and digs stuff up without training or properly documenting finds is the worst kind of vandal.

[@-108-]

@@Ron-d2s Thus, my comment: He would make a terrible archaeologist.

[@prieten49]

Tey probably farmed squash, beans, and corn. I read somewhere that just below or in front of many ruins were "trash heaps" where the inhabitants just tossed animal bones, broken pottery, corn cobs, etc. These trash heaps are interesting for archeologists to go through. Thanks for the beautiful tour.

[@TheDesertwalker]

The trash heaps are referred to as "middens". Sometimes the human middens are darker than the surrounding soil due to all the organic matter contained in it. Woodrats (packrats) also have middens. Sometimes some items are preserved in woodrat middens due to uric acid (from urinations over time). Also, in this neighborhood, Native Americans would have collected pinyon nuts in the autumn, when harvests were good.

[@SongOfSongsOneTwelve]

Yep; the trash heaps are called middens. 😊

[@vapormissile]

Even when it seems pointless to maintain respect, it's important. We have a temptation to dig & take cool stuff home, especially when the site is already damaged. I love this channel.

[@TheTrekPlanner]

Totally agree with you! Thanks for your comment!

[@nealbullington8301]

The trees are a mix of junipers and pinyon pines, very typical of much of the southwest.

[@juttascharlau7645]

In the side canyon cave there's a little man pictograph right in the middle of the cave. You can see it quite well around the 9.55 mark on the far right and around 10.03 on the left.

[@lindabriggs5118]

I love what you do. It makes me almost home sick since I used to live in the four corners area for almost 30 years. I miss the desolate beauty of those desert regions and the finding of the old ruins. I especially miss finding petroglyph and petrographs just around a corner in some rarely visited canyon. Thank you for these ventures. I'm 71yrs old now and unable to drive there nowadays since I live in the Southwestern Appalachian's.

[@jackiemack8653]

The Appalachians have their own beauty which I prefer to the desert but these videos are pretty

[@sandradanforth8524]

So good to see you again and walk with you. Always interesting when we are with you. 😊😊

[@TheTrekPlanner]

More to come soon!! :-)

[@johnlea8519]

I love your videos, there's nothing better on a damp cold British morning to watch Trek Planner in the American Southwest 🌵

[@geraldgwynn9383]

Thanks for another great trek. I love these longer videos. I love to hear your commentary. Keep up the great work young man , for us old folks

[@sherylb421]

This country is beautiful. Thank you for sharing with us.

[@1nvisible1]

*@**10:22** I'm really curious about this one, it appears to have been underwater also.*

[@Ron-d2s]

@@1nvisible1 Most things were, I'm currently sitting at the bottom of a places called Glacial Lake Missoula.

[@Janer-52]

Lots of good commentary. What a beautiful place. The hints of ancient people are always amazing - looks like there is nothing there - and then pottery happens. Thanks for taking us along.

[@Mountlougallops]

It was beautiful once upon a time. As beautiful as the canyon.

[@lauravanniekerk4719]

Watching you walk in the middle of nowhere makes it look like you are the only one left in the world!!! It makes you think how nature just carries on day after day...thanks for the vid

[@puppy2haley]

Astounding videos! Thanks for taking us along. The caves used for shelters & homes during past ages really does just make you wonder. 👍🤜🏼🤛🏼❤️

[@johnnorth9355]

Yet again amazing drone shots which really bring to life the geography and geology of the landscape and the role of water in continuing to shape it through rain and floods. Only by seeing this can we begin to imagine the lives of the ancient people who inhabited the area. Sadly we can easily see the destructive and disfiguring efforts of those more modern. Great work as always.

[@amberandrews6842]

Fascinating! Thank You. I really enjoyed!

[@sueball595]

I loved this adventure! The canyon is spectacular and obviously had a lot going on in it in ancient times.

[@jburnett8152]

I always enjoy it. I love the white snow against the red rock. The going to start getting hot out there. Take care.

[@13zounds]

I love that you’re a little on edge for safety reasons. But I love that you’re a little on edge because it feels more childlike in my inner little kid loves being spooked also.

[@metaldetectingwithrocky1901]

Love the feeling of you walking…like me walking and the great shots of from your drone! Thank You

[@L-36]

I usually watch your adventures at the gym on my phone. I didn't finish this one there and finished just now at home. Wow. It looks so amazing on a bigger screen. I love your channel. Thank you.

[@TheTrekPlanner]

That means so much to me! Thanks for watching! 🏋️🏋️

[@nate-hl9sq]

at 17:10 I think that all the sand you we're standing on was covering the ruin, the mud against the end was to seal the roof, makes sense why you saw the holes on the ground, 100s of years ago that was probably head level.

[@sarahstrong7174]

Hi Trek Planner, I am enjoying another trek with you. Always finding out something new. It is great to journey with you!

[@TheTrekPlanner]

I'm so glad! Thank you, Sarah!

[@lnbjr7]

Thanks for another wonderful journey! The majority of trees shown in this video are Juniper and the larger bushes seem to be sagebrush. I’ve noticed a couple pine trees as well. I grew up in Central Oregon which is a desert region. Junipers and sagebrush are the dominant form of larger vegetation… watching your videos reminds me of home on what is called the high desert which covers at least 2/3rds of the states of Oregon and Washington. Thank you!

[@SongOfSongsOneTwelve]

True. Juniper trees are not good because they pose a threat to wildlife/ecosystems that utilize sagebrush. Sad, because I’m sure that those trees were life-giving to the native peoples, being that some can grow up to 700 years!

[@lnbjr7]

@@SongOfSongsOneTwelve So juniper trees an sagebrush seem to be partners of sorts in a desert environment. Junipers are a member of the Cedar tree clan and in that they probably existed before we modern humans came into existence so I view them as a legitimate part of a of our North American environment. Juniper berries add incredible flavor to certain German recipies… all this being said, please consider giving them a break!

[@margueritemitchell1829]

Hello from Beautiful British Columbia Canada 🇨🇦 😎 cool enjoyed the trek along video😢🎉😂❤

[@alenahawke475]

Hello neighbor, from the beautiful Olympic Peninsula in Washington State. I see Vancouver Island from my front door and the ferry to the island is close by.❤

[@nterracall]

Thanks Jeff! Always enjoy your videos 👍

[@TheTrekPlanner]

Thanks for watching! :-)

[@DingbadYoutube]

Thank you for the great adventure. Enjoying all your videos. Take care.

[@TheTrekPlanner]

Thanks for watching!

[@lucindajennings148]

😊 Another great hike. Beautiful scenery...and as you mentioned the smell of cedar..I could smell it!! The ruins are fascinating. It is sad when people feel they can take what they want from these and mess them up.😢😢😢😢😢

[@chadbaker3207]

My favorite empath on KZbin!!!

[@SueEifler]

Thank you for taking the trek! It’s a strenuous event to hake as you do! This adventure definitely helps us to see the past, albeit more trafficked and accessible. It gives us a great appreciation for your many finds which are high in the cliffs and rare. We have much to value from all that you have shared, as though we are walking there with you! Thank you again!!!

[@jackiemack8653]

That's true we can thank him but he is making 💰 too. 😊

[@sherylb421]

You take me to a place that I need to go to frequently, but have not been able to go to in real life lately.

[@skyeseaborn1170]

Those rocks in that last area are so beautiful! I loved every second of this adventure. Thank you so much Jeff!

[@JT-xh4zm]

What a beautiful area. Loved the colors and shapes of the weathered stone. Totally enjoyed this video! Thanks for sharing.

[@deepg7084]

Seeing such old corn cobs always amazes me. You would think they're biodegradable, but they last centuries, just like bones. Plus the size difference compared to modern corn is eye opening.

[@flatreflection1143]

mortar and melted brick...hmmm....maybe melted building....always a pleasure watching your vids ...thank you

[@akster8434]

I loved this adventure! There was so much to see and so much to wonder. I like that you ask questions and get us thinking and imagining.

[@barbmcguire7796]

Loved this adventure ❤. Thank you for sharing 😊. The scenery is beyond beautiful, you are allowing me to see part of the country I may never see in person. Thank you for doing this .❤

[@TheTrekPlanner]

Thanks for coming along, Barb! :-)

[@sandwitch4300]

Just lovely to see this wilderness and enjoy listening to your commentary, I like your accent 😊✌🏼🇬🇧

[@syzygy2043]

What stunning country. It felt so peaceful and intriguing to come along with you Jeff. Much appreciated and till next time!

[@cz5148]

I so appreciate the time and respect you give to the locations you visit. Thank you for sharing these videos and your passion for these beautiful canyons/vistas.

[@alenahawke475]

It looks like a giant foot print around 15:55 and 16:05 in the left side of the video to me. Well the toes anyway... Thanks for taking us along!❤

[@johnhart125]

Great walk, interesting and beautiful

[@derdin8]

One of your best videos so far, Jeff! Thank you for taking us with you!

[@billbucktube]

It occurs to me that over the centuries there would be multiple occupations of sites. There would be likely re-using of materials from other abandoned places. No need to hunt far and wide when the rocks are at an old place down the way.

[@toddstropicals]

You're going to have a sasquatch sighting one of these days... Anything is possible. Love the videos! Cheers.

[@jackiemack8653]

More likely in heavily forested areas

[@lucieramirez1378]

WOW! God's country, it is beautiful and the colors are so vibrant. Thank you, I enjoyed your presentation.🎉

[@TheTrekPlanner]

Thank you!!

[@sandraleslie4068]

Fantastic footage. Felt like l was right there. Scenery was wild and beautiful. Good for you to trek that long way. 🖐️🙂

[@lynneanderson2723]

This country sure has many adventures . Thanks for bringing us along once again.

[@allixandra]

Some of the most beautiful terrain on the planet.

[@jackiemack8653]

Hope someone does a vid on Montana wilderness. The scent of the trees there also beautiful

[@jackiemack8653]

Montana wilderness and tree scents also beautiful. Adirondack mountains upstate NY gorgeous too

[@BobTaylor-hn3zu]

Enjoyed it! thanks Jeff! Wish I could smell the scent of the pinyon pines.

[@jj46627]

I like the way you make your comments on screen, and just let the music and the visual speak for themselves when you’re flying the drone. Great music that you choose, too!! Thank you so much for all the time you take doing this, I know going out there is the fun part, but there’s work editing, etc., as well.

[@TheTrekPlanner]

The editing part isn’t so bad! I enjoy going back through the footage to see what I missed. Thanks for watching!

[@elishagreen2954]

I love your stuff. I like how you are consciously watching where you stand and walk. And how you show us new places. Thank you for all your work on these videos. It's so very much appreciated.

[@carolwright7503]

Loved the drone showing the caves...the light colored walls so cool. This was a great share. Thank You. Going to watch again♡

[@peanuts1173]

This was awesome and just what I needed on this snow stormy day in New Hampshire. The desert always brings me a feeling of calm and warmth. Plus I enjoy your explorations so much

[@thefred8481]

THANKS FOR TAKING ME ALONG ON ALL THESE ADVENTURES…sorry…I soon realized I was on caps lock…great work!!! From a stiff old man

[@dyannejohnson6184]

The colours are so unique…..thanks again awestruck

[@dyannejohnson6184]

You found lots don’t sell this short the magnificent colours alone are sooo worth it

[@joangordoneieio]

TY for taking us along! Its as much the journey as it is the destination!

[@gailhowes9398]

The geology is great as you can see the movement of the rock and soil! The patterns, the colours and shapes are fascinating ! Thank you again for sharing were you go for seniors like me who are unable to explore🤭🤗🥰

[@terryt.1643]

Lovely trek today! I love the color of the landscape. I enjoy your reverence. Thank you for taking us with you on your explorations. Chilly day today so my old bones are creaky.

[@katheyjberry]

Beautiful land, interesting finds. Thank you for sharing!

[@amazed6796]

Very interesting, beautiful rock formations, sediment and colors. Thank you for sharing.

[@turquoisetunes]

Thank you for taking me places that I can't go. I've lived in the Southwest my whole life, and as I would drive I would wish that I could wander down the canyons and up onto the mesas and ridges to see more of this magical, gorgeous landscape! You've given me a great gift!

[@bobbyjoe-g9m]

I have walked in exact same trail you walked on. Its weird seeing it on video. I wonder if that was your drone I saw a while back. Glad your enjoying the area and being very respectful. I live just adjacent to the canyon you were in. Maybe we’ll meet someday on the trail

[@TheTrekPlanner]

I’ll be back soon, so maybe! ;-)

[@JohnBarrios-x7l]

Jeff your videos are great!!! Always looking forward to your next show. And thank you for cautioning folks to respect what they find and not touch... Wishing you the best.

[@SILSAL67]

Great journey! Thanks for taking us along!

[@Timber81]

Man I got to say that your use of the drone is by far the best! I fly in Maine. I'm looking for round stone structures that have not been identified with a group of people They left Snake shaped stone walls and stone circles. Also find stone caves. Love your content Man! Happy Trails

[@TheTrekPlanner]

Wow that is so cool! I would love to search for that type of thing. I’m sure LiDAR could help, maybe??

[@louiszierlein5814]

I grew up in Wyoming in the late 70s and early 80s. I walked and rode horse back for thousands of miles exploring every square inch of every rock, wash, and canyon looking for history from the Indians, fur trappers, the Oregon trail cowboys and miners. I spent as much as three weeks camping out miles from the nearest road...dang, a drone would have saved me so much time.

[@organicwoman5]

Thank you again for the fun and informative adventure. 😊

[@sevenirises]

This adventure is breathtaking! The combination of colors and music were perfect. Starting at 15:00...looks more like the remains of ancient giant trees....like the giant sequoias but larger. The caves being knots in the wood.

[@thruknobulaxii2020]

Nice one. I like the longer format.

[@williamskris6335]

Fantastic!!! TY for sharing!!!God Bless!!!

[@purelightlove8888]

A Giants Footprint!!! 🦶🏼 The last cave was my favorite, at 15:56 minutes in, the 4 imprints in the rock, looks like toe prints & again at 19:07 minutes in, it looks like a ridgeline under the toes ✨Awesome Share, Thanks !! ✨☀️🌵☀️✨

[@LauraEllis-j2e]

You set a great example ,to show people what to do,and NOT to do. My mother always told us to look with our eyes, not our hands

[@ShallenNorth]

I just found you, I really enjoy this! I also find myself enamored by stuff like this just dreaming about the history and geology. Great stuff

[@brucegarrison4999]

I love the colors in the rocks

[@Redfour5]

I think it is amazing that organic matter like the corn cobs do not deteriorate after 700 to 800 years.

[@lisalorentz7919]

Thanks for taking me along!

[@lagh84]

Thanks for taking us with you. Would love to be walking in your shoes. Hope you can keep it up.

[@janamyers1874]

I love all your treks, Jeff. Something about the sound of your footsteps is very soothing…ASMR? It is a sound I’m familiar with as I hiked trails in my area in earlier years. Would you ever think about organizing a group to trek w/ you sometime…for those who would dare not go alone and w/out a guide.

[@Caddowolf]

These sandstone overhangs or caves as you call them are very soft and dynamic. The rock face you are seeing can be dramatically different from what they saw 700 or 1000 years ago. Most of what has eroded off is laying at your feet. The sand could conceal eons of data. Multiple occupations or occupation over very long periods. Most of the ruins you found were buried. This place may have a very big flood every hundred years or so and bury everything, along with the sandstone eroding . An Archaeologist could spend a career in just one of these sites. Thank you for what you do, Jeff. On the surface this video may seem lacking in great finds, but they are there under the surface. I can see them.

[@TheTrekPlanner]

Thank you for that! I think you’re right. We forget that the stone walls would have looked much more different than now

[@mstalcup1973]

You're so much fun to go out on adventures with you you find some great stuff

[@lilashelton535]

It’s amazing to me you don’t get lost and have such endurance out in the sun

[@katesutton1476]

Awesome trip. These sites look really cool like they have been there for ever. Beautiful country. I lived in Tucson Ariz for several years did a lot of exploring in the desert luvd it. Much luv Carry on

[@janwertz2257]

I love seeing the backcountry via your videos. You go places I couldn't scramble up if I knew the areas you explore- which I don't. In one of your videos you where showing us pieces of pottery, with the shards long imbedded in the soil. To me it looked undisturbed; you showed us how the area had been dug up, possibly many years earlier, and anything of archaeology value removed.

[@tomg3903]

It so great your recepectful of your finds.

[@denisefrickey5636]

You have the most amazing instincts for where sites might be found..

[@myownasmrchannel]

I'm glad that you went back!

[@GOYOSGardenTiedyes]

Where you found the mortar there’s probably more stuff deeper. It looks like a lot of sand was wind blowing and covered up something but I know don’t dig down to see what it is. thanks for the trip.😁✌️

[@TheTrekPlanner]

Yeah I bet there was some stuff underneath the sand! I would think almost all of those caves would hold at least some broken pottery or chert

[@mherrera1953]

I am sure our native brothers and sisters consider these areas sacred. Thank you for treating them so carefully.

[@elizabethpaints]

Your trips are fascinating! The canyons and rock formations are so intriguing. Do you see a lot of wild life? The tracks are certainly telling. Looking forward to your next adventure!

[@scrappydog175]

Looks like some coyote and bobcat tracks you saw there. Hard to get scale on video though. Fun trek!

[@TheTrekPlanner]

Yeah some of the tracks look like they have claws so maybe there is a mix

[@elizabethf8078]

Have to compliment you on your music. It enhances the experience, rather than detracting from it. It makes for a GREAT video.

[@nancygibson8854]

Well, I love it as much as you do. So cool...

[@MikeBaxterABC]

2:33 I think one reason there are so many ruins, is that the shelters were used intermittently, or temporarily, for a long hunting trip, or simply a stop over for a few days on along traveling trip?? The lack of roofing sticks might simply mean, the sticks were transported o be used on the next shelter, or taken for firewood, at ANY time in the last few hundred years.

[@richardbritton5280]

cool trek jeff ty