What is Honour? - The Riddle of Ned Stark's Honour - Thorin's Side (Philosophy)

[@zardi9083]

First time since 2 years that i've watched one of these videos and i gotta say something edgy. 3 years ago i randomly stumbled upon this channel due to your main csgo channel and for the first time in my life (i was 17 years old at the time) i got introduced to philosophy. It was so incredibly intriguing that i spent almost everyday digging deeper into the world of philosophy through yt videos and articles. Then i found Jordan Peterson through Sargon of Akkad (who i found because of you) and my love for philosophy only deepened. I bought several books from the likes of Nietzsche, Dostoevsky, Huxley etc. and found purpose in reading those great works of literature. Fast forward to today i am a first year student in Germany studying Philosophy and german studies and aiming to becoming a teacher in 5 years. So i gotta say your videos are where it all started and you're kind of responsible for the path i've chosen in my life But i'm still shit in cs

[@A7OldRscplayer]

Wow congratulations. That's an awesome story :O best of luck with your studies and being a teacher!

[@PaulRamen]

This channel didn't cause, but was for sure associated with, my move from spending most of my time in LoL/eSport.. to now being mainly focused in science/critical thinking/psychology, thanks to guys like hitchens, sam harris, peterson, jon haidt, sapolsky, steve pinker, geoffrey miller and a 100 others (like 8:53 Zizek x) ) Seeing a video pop up on this channel is like a time tunnel to 2016 my year zero.

[@frangolub9658]

@@A7OldRscplayer fuck that, best of luck improving your aim to get zose sick edshots

[@zeldahershy6247]

Search YT: awakening from the meaning crisis

[@poopeyinmymouth]

Nice but sargon is cancerous

[@Yasukeh]

Only thorin would respond to the LS situation in the form of a game of thrones analysis video.

[@cdubz6627]

We won’t get this kind of content from anyone else. We’ll all truly understand this when Thorin isn’t around anymore.

[@Vandyno]

Jesus dude he ain't headed out, chill. Just how old do you think he is?

[@OJHippo]

This cannot be unrelated to LS giving in to T1 and T1 fans. What an elegant response that passes on wisdom. Sometimes I just love you Thorin!

[@ricardoosegueda9286]

Thorin has been killing it these past few weeks. Absolute content machine. Didn't even know about this second channel before this video.

[@christopheboucher3737]

That voice acting by Thooorin 10 minutes in was something of beauty. Reminded me of the old-school SI episodes.

[@8Manowar]

Glad someone else sees Thomas More in Eddard. Excellent video.

[@Overactivegofer]

please make more of these videos, they are fascinating

[@carlovankarlson3718]

Thanks Duncan. I started reading the Dune series because you referenced it. The state of mind following Pauls thinking and the beautifully crafted causalities in those books really shook me out of my everyday life. Even in death the things we stand for in life linger. As long as there is anyone left who we cared for or who we meant something to - it is worth to keep fighting for the things we deeply care for. Even if there is a price. My father did so for all his life. Through that caused our family alot of harm. But at least he stood for something. I still can't forgive him for what he did to our family. His life still had meaning and gave us deeply rooted values that I will try to uphold in my way. Not for his sake. But for mine.

[@AnthonyAccount]

This and your E-prime video were great! Keep doing what you love, the truth always resonates.

[@Bodomi]

Hope you make more videos like this. These types of videos were the reason I originally subscribed to you 4-5 years ago.

[@trentrofl]

I always hope that you once again take another step into the hyperbolic time chamber and grace us with another some-hundred days of thorin, all of these recent videos are fucking bangers and full of insight. Please continue the great work.

[@chrislevitt4929]

32 minutes of god tier content

[@pedrogrigolatto]

You made me cry Thanks for the video

[@bt636]

Damn can't believe I missed this video for so long. Really deserves more views, absolutely epic.

[@Bluehoke98]

Always love seeing content here. This should be everyone's one stop shop for unique takes and niche food for thought

[@mariohz]

Yes, integrity without any compromise. Stay loyal to your nature, be it flexible or inflexible, so long as it is one right enough to bring you closer to your truth.

[@Baahaz]

This video is truly touching, in the exact way you described near the end. I al so glad I got to hear this as a young man. Thank you.

[@axelszetu452]

Of all the tangents that could be separate videos, i would most like to hear your thoughts on Hector. When reading the Illiad in high school i found his character so captivating, and i had that sense of the story being "true". That was around the time when you started this channel and i remember your videos on philosophy having an impact on me. Since starting Uni i haven't had time to game, so i don't follow your main channel nowadays, but these videos on philosophy are still excellent. I really hope you give the Hector video a shot!

[@Henrydota2]

Wish I could listen to these on spotify.

[@TurboRoggy]

I'm so happy that you still do these videos!

[@Spirit47373]

Thanks god! Been waiting for a proper video for YEARS

[@poopeyinmymouth]

Thorin's Side video?!?!? lets go

[@GameFactoryVideo]

Thank you for this content. I'd love to see and hear more of this.

[@Bkbarracas]

I would love to see you deconstructing the Iliad Thorin. Would also be interesting to see some of montys input too I wander if you guys would agree. You the man!

[@Bkbarracas]

Would also love to hear you take a dive on stoicism. It seems to be a philosophy that’s disregarded more today

[@goncalomedeiros1589]

Just another amazing video by this madman. Keep it up

[@johnprovatidis1503]

Thorin in this video mentions Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn. Read his book "The Gulag Archipelago". It is a testimony to the majesty of the human spirit and the heights it can achieve, even at the seemingly worst possible circumstances. As he writes, the line dividing good and evil cuts through the heart of every human being. Do not be so arrogant as to presume you haven't had a part to play in your troubling circumstances or that you cannot make them worse. As Dostoevsky says in The Brothers Karamazov, everything is like an ocean. A seemingly meaningless act can have immeasurable consequences.

[@Viriyascybin]

Onion Knight, Thorin.

[@ThePhillydon22]

Damn I never even knew about this channel until this got randomly recommended to me. Maybe add this in your descriptions for the main channel. Sick video from the mad lad.

[@aleksandarmitic6072]

10:13 You sound exactly like the young Ned Stark from the flashback scene with Bran.

[@sneauxday7002]

damn. thorins side is back and with a vengeance. loved it m8.... gave me a lot of food for thought

[@Expanses02]

What a content machine 0_0

[@arturus4750]

very good video this whole channel is truly meaningful

[@bojnebojnebojne]

This "choice" you are talking about are so intrinsic to human beings that we've waged wars across millennials over it. I have gotten into so much trouble over the years because i refuse to do things that goes against what I believe is the truthful path for me. And this you are talking about here is so on point and align so well with my set of values, principals and morale. Great video!

[@kurobara3]

Super interesting video and its hard to deny the general validity of your point even i dont agree with the underlying point. I dont believe in idealistic absolutes, compromise is necessary not because we must deal with other people but because we as individuals do not see the world in absolutes and desires and ideals can come in conflict.

[@DREAMWORKERSKY]

I was reading "The Short Happy Life of Francis Macomber" by Ernest Hemingway and it immediately connects me back to this video. Really deep topic and a lot to think about, great work.

[@Xavyer13]

I'm looking forward to the Hector video and the "About Love as the ultimate fuel" videos

[@gg4935]

Imagine if we lived in a world where our friendships weren't just fickle sources of entertainment but instead were brotherhoods, brothers willing to die for the honour of one another. On the brightside, at least we have thorin's patreon.

[@TheDanDeeMan]

This explains the Game of Thrones reference in the esports hall of fame speech

[@xxcodwawxx100]

Can you link the speech / video? :o

[@aardee175]

Excellent video, thank you Thorin

[@del46_60]

You should absolutely make that video about the dangers of media!

[@diogoqueiroz4726]

O contexto da sua morte não foi seu maior dilema. Ele já tinha superado a honra quando decidiu proteger o filho da sua irmã e fingir ser seu bastardo. Sempre foi família em primeiro lugar.

[@CoachFykling]

Love the productivity!

[@Pallid85]

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[@takearisko]

Thorin with the LS metaphors :)

[@Wwheeles]

What a lovely thought provoking video

[@RobCooper-Bachatador]

Ned kind of built a pyramid, where by Family was the Apex, the top most point of his being the most important thing. Then Duty next and Honour the strong base that held them all together. Ned had already failed everything at once when he chose to accept Jon as his bastard son to protect him from Robert Baratheon (Duty), deny Jon his birthright (Family) and lose face in front of his wife and everyone else (Honour). When he killed the Dire Wolf he betrayed his Family and started his downfall because he lost his daughter Sansa to the Lannisters by destroying the link to House Stark (Dire Wolf). (Note, this happens to most of the children and the Dire Wolves are omens throughout the story) With his Family betrayed he then failed Duty when he kept the truth from Robert about his children. Having not realised his error fully, he held onto the only thing he had left Honour. This was his final test, where he still had a hope to do the dutiful thing and protect his family by maintaining himself but all he had left was his Honour, so he held tight. Finally having realised his betrayals to Duty and Family, while having delirium in a cell, he thought that he must let go of his Honour to win back his Family and perhaps his Duty but all he did was destroy his final foundations and thus died before he was beheaded. Note: I might have missed something here, has been nearly 20 years since I read the book.

[@ObtecularPk]

Well explained the Ime Udoka situation

[@MoxxeysCorner]

Absolutely beautiful

[@tylerjnaylor]

Would love to hear your thoughts on something from God Emperor of Dune Thorin. I wonder if there is a scene in it that speaks to you the way this one does.

[@faizanaslam2090]

There is a real life prominent example of "never compromise even in the face of Armageddon": and that is Khabib. He refused 100+ millions of sponsors and rematches because of his code, he retired at the top because of his code, yet still training everyday and passing down his wisdom and set an example for the next generation to follow. I just wish that side of the story was told more of him.

[@Ba_Ado_Mushroom]

The Sean bean impression 😂

[@torchsight8258]

Everything that has ever happened through the history of the universe and before, has lead me to type these letters. The notion of free will is an illusion thinly veiled if you think clearly about the consequences of cause and effect. Every decision ever made has been influenced by a myriad of causes, such as hormone levels, blood sugar levels, past experiences which are influenced among other things by genes past on by your parents and the list goes on, all of which you have no direct control over, and in most cases are unaware of, If you replicate the conditions under which a decision was made exactly, in other words, go back in time, the decision will have to be the same because everything influencing the decision is the same. Unless you think that there's something supernatural going on that we don't yet understand, a random element or god, all bets are off in that case. Case in point, you will have no control over whether you are influenced to see things the way I do, either your mind is changed, or it is not, again depending on your own life experiences and current state of mind among all other things. Now I might come to regret typing this here, but I believe that the notion of free will has to die for the human race to transcend and survive in the long run, so I will try to do my part however feeble my attempt may be.

[@Rizgn]

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[@darkimpact17]

thank you

[@iRiDiKi]

One of the things that makes this very thing so hard is how close it is to martyrdom. It is to go against the grain. The world has a way of praising qualities it barely truly rewards; there's always resentment given to those who are true to themselves even if they are (for the most part) good. Either way, you are still sacrificing something.

[@countlessbathory1485]

I would love to hear your thoughts on The Prince by Machiavelli.

[@JosemiPR]

Damn. Great video, Thorin!

[@2013_Shox]

Banging commuting content

[@Brahmsian]

The readiness is all

[@Jack-ql2xl]

Thank you.

[@Anton_512]

Great work 👏

[@FailMachineInc]

thanks for this content

[@Mitia_k]

Is this related to LS... ? If so, this is brave for you to take this stance. Oedipus, knowing what pain truth might cause him and his loved ones, nevertheless pursued it in the name of a higher ideal of serving the citizens of Thebes (the community as a whole), rather than serving his loved ones and protecting them as well as himself by obfuscating the truth. Oedipus chose to uncover the truth relating to the parricidal, false king despite the punishment that said truth would inflict upon him and his twisted family, and in doing so, served his city-state by ridding it of the rot that had taken hold, but even in the end served his own kin. Unlike his wife and mother, as the truth became clearer and clearer, chose not the partake in the lie, and was punished and disgraced for it and might even have cause his loved ones to resent him for it (spoilers: most of them did not). Sophocles was right; the community and the individuals in it are saved not by serving them directly but by serving higher ideals and higher virtues. Living in accordance with higher virtues, among which truth is king, is what redeems an individual, his fellow men, those that are dead and those that are yet to live.

[@blizzmademegod]

@thoorin, in case you haven't seen it, you may appreciate this video WRT the Solzhenitsyn quote watch?v=88q9s5em-u8

[@stef9019]

Thank you for this video

[@IndreadColde]

Great vid do more on philosophy, ty!

[@freed.man.1]

Thorin, your writing is genuine.

[@ObtecularPk]

Fear controls the masses 26:00 27:00

[@AaronANZ]

who is the person thoorin mentioned at 12:12? Mclewin or Mcloughan?

[@prawtism]

Probably McLuhan - copying from Wikipedia - "The medium is the message" is a phrase coined by the Canadian communication theorist Marshall McLuhan and introduced in his Understanding Media: The Extensions of Man, published in 1964. McLuhan proposes that a communication medium itself, not the messages it carries, should be the primary focus of study. He showed that artifacts as media affect any society by their characteristics, or content.

[@pignon6732]

Did you consider that Ned knew who the true heir to the throne is (Jon) and probably that his sister wasnt kidnapped but he kept it secret. So family was for him the highest priority. And since its a complex novel its possible the author didnt think all the ways and at certain depth it becomes inconsistent.

[@ΣτάνισλαβΝτράγκοβ]

Master Thorin I arrive at your door once again to make a demand with nothing in return. Make the video on the topic of "A black truth is a better than a white lie". Thank you!

[@Sodacacik]

Who was that author he was talking about that struck like a lightning bolt?

[@MoonlitMarch]

If only the show didn't end like a complete garbage fire

[@nubbinthemonkey]

Seems like LS puts little stock in honor. He's trying to climb the ladder, but I think T1 and their fans will betray him in the end

[@pixelninjah]

can anyone share the macclune reference?

[@egomanfreeman1]

I wonder, how do you change for better without betraying who you are?

[@LpNecromancer]

Maybe I missed something. Didn't you say, you should take the evil draw, something good out of it and move on? But when someone does something wrong(evil) and you are saying to not give in to it, because you would end up in their mercy. By fighting against that evil, aren't you projecting it back at them. Therefore not dissipating the evil but rather giving it back to them. This would give them the chance to spread the Evil or now even greater evil somewhere else. So you would be in that position somewhat of a multiplier. Isn't evil as a concept always dependent on the viewing point? But okay, my 2 cents into your video. Thank you very much. Great job!

[@Zetherin]

"By fighting against that evil, aren't you projecting it back at them?" Not all resistance is evil, which is why our legal system has concepts like "self-defense" which justify otherwise aggressive actions. Pure pacifism is sometimes more unethical than taking aggressive action because it allows the perpetrator to maintain power and dominate more people, but there does come a time in your response where you can choice the force multiplier. Ideally you choose the least force necessary to extinguish the threat, otherwise I agree you yourself you can become a contributor of evil.

[@Panna4life]

What year is "a man for all seasons" from?

[@chrislevitt4929]

This for LS and T1

[@Rayon811]

15:30

[@ttas6329]

that s some deep shit

[@TheJtorres182]

Wait does this mean that Regi and TSM can be redeemed?

[@rewcalYT]

I was thinking of Veteren

[@F4aXxZ]

i love to see honour and colour spelled with an u.. Hate the american spelling of those words as a non native english speaker

[@husseinpoliphilo]

You keep saying Jordan Peters form of true you should look into the world of forms and plato it's another good way to think about it.

[@Rayon811]

24:30 archipelag gulag guy?

[@PALbub]

From an altruistic perspective this video is like a toddler eating his first solid food. You can enjoy and celebrate this if you focus just on him and not that most humans eat solids. We are all toddlers to someone else, aren‘t we?

[@eatme123-g8y]

based

[@SheepboyEU]

do you really pump this shit out in one afternoon? is there any other content creator that can even approach the rate of your content production?

[@dandanik8685]

Do you live in a hotel? The room looks like it.

[@wasaju]

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[@induwilliams7883]

Por fin

[@aleksandarivanov5860]

wtf thoorin :D

[@akiyama5945]

wtf is this channel