What is Inter-VLAN Routing in a Stratix 5700

In this lesson we are going to talk about inter-VLAN routing using the Allen Bradley Stratix 5700. We can use routing to segment traffic between different Ethernet networks or VLANs based off of the device's IP address and subnet. This will prevent traffic from one network from being seen by another network. While devices on different VLAN segments cannot communicate with each other directly, an Ethernet switch with "Routing" features can route traffic between the different VLANS which is called inter-VLAN routing.
In this example we route Ethernet traffic from a network with an IP address of 192.168.10.XXX to a different network with an IP address of 192.168.20.XXX.
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[@tektonelec4695]

I’m currently enrolled in a Cisco networking class to learn more about the networking side of things, so this video couldn’t come at a better time. Thanks

[@TimWilborne]

Glad to hear it Anthony. I might do a few more, just hitting the basics.

[@RS_83]

Hi, Tim. I would like to see "more advanced videos" on networking too)) This Stratix switch looks very interesting.

[@TimWilborne]

The Stratix switch is a really neat product. Let me see how much feedback I get on this one. It is a little out of the realm of our typical video.

[@BogusQuacky]

graduating engineer here- i enjoy watching your channel since i learn something practical

[@TimWilborne]

Glad to hear it! We try to keep them down to earth.

[@chriswendi]

Being a IT network admin throwing my foot over the PLC fence this is good stuff. Networking like PLC’s is a whole world of acronyms, methods and functionalities. Switches are my favorite! VLANS are essential in segregating networks and cutting down broadcast domains. Discussing layer 2 unmanaged / managed and layer 3 switches managed switches is a great idea. And not to get into the weeds but talking about tagged, untagged and trunking is great. Also getting into LAGS In this industry is a great idea for a resilient reliable network for mission critical applications.

[@chriswendi]

BTW our company Honeyville should be ordering a trainer kit from you Guys. Thanks for the very helpful videos. Your training style is spot on and something I grasp very well.!

[@TimWilborne]

Hi Chris! Thank you for you comments! I was a little nervous stepping into the IT realm with this video 😀

[@TimWilborne]

Thanks, look forward to your trainer order!

[@chriswendi]

Tim Wilborne you did fantastic and your analogies are super helpful in why VLANS are used. PLC networks especially multi plc system should all be using vlans and in their own subnet. Having a layer 3 stratus that can route between those networks is super important and should help keep the layout simple. Otherwise your always at the mercy of the IT guys.

[@TFeld-nx9io]

yes, more of this please. Show us how to setup produced/consumed tags between these 2 plcs that exist on different subnets

[@TimWilborne]

That would make a good video

[@davidpalmer963]

Tim.. a really easy way to set up the Stratix 5700, is the video from A/B. Express set up of 5700 switch.

[@bandapgbr1]

Hi, Tim ! Thanks for ALL ! Congratulations ...

[@TimWilborne]

You are welcome!

[@davidpalmer963]

We use a IACS with DLR (Device Level Ring) for the network system as a whole.

[@davidpalmer963]

It's really cool stuff. The Redundant Star Topology

[@tonyadcock7347]

For sure...more advanced networking class

[@davebrown6915]

Hi Tim, really enjoyed this video and look forward to future networking content. It has recently become more relevant to me and my PLC team. We find ourselves now expected to have greater knowledge and capability in this area as cyber-security becomes ever more important in industry and the utility services. Keep up the great videos!

[@TimWilborne]

Good to hear Dave. I'm going to do some "light" cyber security videos in the future.

[@scottlees5178]

VLANs can also be used to improve network security by separating the broadcast domain of the IT and PLC equipment, and using routing rules to control access between them.

[@TimWilborne]

Good information Scott. Keep it coming!

[@nickdeleon5464]

Best video I have seen out there! Amazing!

[@TimWilborne]

Thank you!

[@davidpalmer963]

I have always felt that the Ethernet (IIOT), is the cake part of Industrial Automation.

[@nukeelda]

We have Stratix devices all over at least 20 of them in the plant it is very important for us to be able to talk to any plc quickly from the office instead walking around also configuration of ports, troubleshooting I have your device it is very useful thanks Tim.not sure do you have a video on configuration of ports on stratix or other ones?

[@TimWilborne]

I'm glad our SIM-IPE is helpful. I haven't done a video on configuring a Stratix because there is a lot of background information that needs videos first but it is on the list.

[@eliekhananya1551]

These videos are extremely helpful, thank u so much

[@TimWilborne]

Glad you like them!

[@ssbaize]

I would enjoy more complex networking videos

[@mannycasanova3325]

Great Topic, Enjoyed it!!

[@TimWilborne]

Glad you enjoyed it Manny!

[@jeremybuchanan4759]

As I recall, ports 15/16 are the default DLR ports. 17/18 xor 19/20 may be configured DLR per Table 38 of 1783-UM007N-EN-P.

[@JavierArellano]

Nicely explained, many thanks!

[@TimWilborne]

Glad it was helpful!

[@stefanolivingketo1076]

I'm First... lol ..Very good video Tim i've configured them before it would be a good video for you to put out in your style of teaching .

[@TimWilborne]

Let me think about how I can do that. Thanks for the feedback!

[@josephjorgensen3282]

Thank you very much

[@TimWilborne]

You are welcome

[@markpnw8745]

Hi Tim, I've started getting more advanced use of this switch, and would love to see more videos. Just bumped into you site. This may not be the place to ask, but I'm going to any way because I am having trouble getting an answer. I am setting up a Compact with two separate I.P.s; .30 & .107. The VLan .107 for PLC & Panelview, the other for .30 for Private VLan, i.e. drives. This setup is for security and ability to get into network from any place and make PLC & Panelview changes. First attempt at networking. Thanks

[@TimWilborne]

I'm in the learning stage on the Stratix switch too Mark

[@jonnymac31]

Good info man. Thanks.

[@TimWilborne]

You are welcome John.

[@alok1077]

sdm templates option not showing in 5700 stratix 1783 BMS20CL

[@edgarduar45]

Could you do a video intercconecting VLAN I mean with the procedure for example a 3 segment network

[@johnrece6622]

Great video

[@TimWilborne]

Glad you enjoyed it John!

[@michaelburke6005]

I would really enjoy some more advanced networking lessons, its all about communicating and I personally need to better understand this stuff.

[@TimWilborne]

Let me see what I can do Michael. I think I'll try to tackle subnets next.

[@suriyat8773]

Thank you

[@TimWilborne]

You're welcome

[@McGeeCollin]

Hello Tim, I'm currently working on a site in California that uses a similar model of Stratix switches. I was trying to understand more details of the advanced configurations on these. I was browsing through each section via the web interface by typing in the IP address on my web browser. There are a lot of details that would be amazing if you made videos for it.

[@TimWilborne]

We are thinking about it Collin. It is right on the edge of our typical video topic.

[@mrnakulbhaii]

what if we have more than two device to communicate on the network 192.168.20.xx with network 192.168.1.xx since we do only have one gateway?

[@estherstepansky5256]

At 3:45 was there any specific reason you used 1, 10, 20 & 30? Wouldn't you want more room in each subnet?

[@TimWilborne]

I randomly chose them just to explain Inter-VLAN routing.

[@rixpanapasa8977]

thanks tim

[@TimWilborne]

You are welcome!

[@We1hrm0cht]

Thanks

[@TimWilborne]

You are welcome!

[@nabilou8106]

Tim's Network explanation is awesome ! Please, I'v a question regarding the configuration of the stratix, when it comes Brandy new, all ports come with a default network i guess, and what's the way to modify or assign each Port of segment following our own configuration or material as shown, i.e, is there any software or webpage that allows to connect with the device. Thank you 😊

[@TimWilborne]

Yes it is configured via a web interface but know that there are several different Stratix switches and many do not have these features.

[@911dlc]

both your networks are 192.168. but what if I have 2 completely different networks like 172.24.128.x and 192.168.25.x, can i still route and communicate with these networks?

[@TimWilborne]

Yes. 192.168.0.X and 192.168.1.X are completely different networks the same as 172.24.X.X and 192.168.25.X are. Note how I left your 128 out. That was a class B address where 192 is a class C address. Google "ip address classes" for more information.

[@joshuacayton8665]

I always enjoy every vid I was wondering if you could do an indepth on sink and source and how they are interchangeable on some plc and some photo sensors and other types of sensors/switches if u already did I'm sorry and can u point me to that one or others u found useful thanks and again really appreciate all u do

[@TimWilborne]

Hi Joshua. Have you seen this video? kzbin.info/www/bejne/jHfHpa1pppmUqZo

[@joshuacayton8665]

Thanks helped alot we were arguing these lol thanks again

[@DSNCB919]

So I'm bringing in a new line at my plant and doing things a bit different each machine has its own Statix which will then run to a panduit panel which then runs to the idf... normally I've run equipment straight to the idf.... I'm afraid I'm going to create a network loop

[@TimWilborne]

I think in this case I might consult a qualified industrial network designer.

[@johnarroz2327]

Can you make a video on how to backup and restore a servo drive on rslogix5000? I can't find such tutorial anywhere online. Thanks!

[@TimWilborne]

We plan on making a few more servo videos and we can probably cover that. It will depend on which hardware we end up using.

[@balachanderbalachander6959]

kindly share the instrument used for chek the network in this video pls

[@TimWilborne]

It is the PLC Tools SIM-IPE. plctools.com/plc-tools-sim-ipe-ethernet-ip-address-explorer-dhcp-and-bootp-server/

[@diverbob8]

Hi Tim, I'm finding myself in an environment with an increasing number of vendors and integrators and the networking is getting more complex. Have you figured out whether recent SIM-IPE instruments will be able to be upgraded to these new features ??

[@TimWilborne]

The features in this video aren't new. The DHCP client and updated change static IP menus are still in testing. Let us know you serial number and current firmware at the following link. twcontrols.com/contact

[@diverbob8]

@@TimWilborne Ok Tim, I'll' check my newest one tomorrow. Question on your BOOTP, I used it to replace the address on a RIO block. After it accepted the address, I tried to confirm that it would remain static but I'm still not sure. I never got a clear cut yes or no on whether BOOTP / DHCP was disabled. That is a useful function but was not able to make that happen. Any thoughts?

[@rockeiroaxemeister8422]

Tim it's obvious you know your stuff but when communicating with IT people, terminology is important. You called the netmask the subnet. Oops. Why don't you explain that the netmask determines how much of the 4 octet address forms the subnet address and the remainder is the node address on that subnet? You also didn't really explain your routing table in the Stratix that you setup that lets you ping other devices on other VLANs which is important because just because you set up separate VLANs, they won't communicate unless you route them properly. More advanced topics would greatly explain many of these items that were skipped over. Thanks for all the time you take creating thess videos. Networks are a mystery to a great many control electricians.